Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20

I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.

Lynn

In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

> Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20
>
> I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.
>

OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
Bujold.

--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
—-----------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
> In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20
>>
>> I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.
>>
>
> OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
> Bujold.

Ewwww !

Lynn

In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
>> In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20
>>>
>>> I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.
>>>
>>
>> OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
>> Bujold.
>
>Ewwww !

I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?

I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
>In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>> In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20
>>>>
>>>> I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
>>> Bujold.
>>
>>Ewwww !
>
>I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
>sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?
>
>I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

Indeed, and bees are cute.

The butter bugs were more like a cross between a cockroach and
a dung beetle.

On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:13:45 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>> In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20
>>>>
>>>> I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
>>> Bujold.
>>
>>Ewwww !
>
>I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
>sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?
>
>I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

The story line involving "bug butter" is that it is a tasty and
nutritious substance produced by bioengineered insects with the result
that Hilarity Ensues.

On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>> In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20
>>>>
>>>> I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
>>> Bujold.
>>
>> Ewwww !
>
> I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
> sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?
>
> I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.

Bees are cute, butter bugs are not. Until, they are genetically
engineered to be cute.

Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series ! I would equate the
series to 17th ??? century Prussia in the hundred years war. In other
words, romance in a time of continuous strife set in a space opera.
Yes, there is military action but there is also one of the finest sets
of interesting characters developed in an SF/F book.

The very first book Lois McMaster Bujold wrote, "Shards Of Honor", is
the best of the entire series, published in 1986.
https://www.amazon.com/Shards-Honor-Vorkosigan-McMaster-Bujold/dp/1476781109/
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shards_of_Honor

Jo Walton even wrote a column about the book in 2009:
https://www.tor.com/2009/03/31/weeping-for-her-enemies-lois-mcmaster-bujolds-shards-of-honor/

The fourth book and the fourteenth book in the series are the next most
excellent books in the series. The fourth book won the Hugo award in
1992. The 14th was nominated for the Hugo award in 2000. The 14th book
has butter bugs running as a subplot where Miles is wooing Ekaterin.
Several subplots in that book.
https://www.amazon.com/Civil-Campaign-Lois-McMaster-Bujold/dp/0671578855/
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Civil_Campaign

Vorkosigan Saga (Chronological) by Lois McMaster Bujold
https://www.goodreads.com/series/98254-vorkosigan-saga-chronological
1. Dreamweaver's Dilemma
2. Falling Free
3. Shards of Honor
4. Barrayar
5. The Warrior's Apprentice
6. The Borders of Infinity (The Mountains of Mourning, etc)
7. The Vor Game
8. Cetaganda
9. Ethan Of Athos
10. Brothers in Arms
11. Mirror Dance
12. Memory
13. Komarr
14. A Civil Campaign
15. Diplomatic Immunity
16. Captain Vorpatril's Alliance
17. CryoBurn
18. Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen

Lynn

In article <sptqga$h0j$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>>> In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20
>>>>>
>>>>> I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
>>>> Bujold.
>>>
>>> Ewwww !
>>
>> I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
>> sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?
>>
>> I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.
>
>Bees are cute, butter bugs are not. Until, they are genetically
>engineered to be cute.
>
>Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series !

I read the first few of them. Then I came across the one with
the genetically engineered cat blanket. I'd already encountered
some examples of squicky genetics in Bujold's work. Then someone
reviewed the next book, saying _inter alia_ "If you're a cat
person, when you encounter the word 'kitten,' close the book and
don't open it again."

So I didn't open it in the first place.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On 12/21/2021 10:14 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <sptqga$h0j$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
>>>>> In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
>>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
>>>>> Bujold.
>>>>
>>>> Ewwww !
>>>
>>> I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
>>> sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?
>>>
>>> I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.
>>
>> Bees are cute, butter bugs are not. Until, they are genetically
>> engineered to be cute.
>>
>> Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series !
>
> I read the first few of them. Then I came across the one with
> the genetically engineered cat blanket. I'd already encountered
> some examples of squicky genetics in Bujold's work. Then someone
> reviewed the next book, saying _inter alia_ "If you're a cat
> person, when you encounter the word 'kitten,' close the book and
> don't open it again."
>
> So I didn't open it in the first place.

I know what the nasty is. The book is "Cetaganda". Yes, you would be
offended by the device that the author used to show how perverted the
Cetaganda society is.

But you can probably skip "Cetaganda" book and read.. Wait, skip "Ethan
of Athos" also if you do not want to read about a planet of men only.
Skip to "Brothers In Arms".
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The book "Cetaganda" has a kitten tree where the forefronts of the
kittens were genetically merged with a tree. When Ivan tried to remove
one of the kittens from the tree, the kitten font end came away from the
tree and it died. Horrifying. Miles and Ivan were horrified in the
book too.

Lynn

In article <btp4sgdt621h1vgihan3v8docnqfl4suc7@4ax.com>,
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:13:45 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
> Heydt) wrote:
>
> >In article <sptai3$uud$1@dont-email.me>,
> >Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>On 12/20/2021 11:57 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
> >>> In article <spqnl6$tqk$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Over The Hedge: Cow Slime
> >>>> https://www.gocomics.com/overthehedge/2021/12/20
> >>>>
> >>>> I love cheese, the sharper the better. I like all kinds though.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> OBSF Reference: The "bug butter" in _A Civil Campaign_ by Lois McMaster
> >>> Bujold.
> >>
> >>Ewwww !
> >
> >I never read that one. Can you explain, if you can find some
> >sufficiently non-gross euphemisms?
> >
> >I mean, honey can be described as bee vomit.
>
> The story line involving "bug butter" is that it is a tasty and
> nutritious substance produced by bioengineered insects with the result
> that Hilarity Ensues.

IIRC, a bioengineered bacterial suite was involved as well.

--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
-------------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

In article <spucpu$r0t$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 12/21/2021 10:14 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <sptqga$h0j$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>
>>> Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series !
>>
>> I read the first few of them. Then I came across the one with
>> the genetically engineered cat blanket. I'd already encountered
>> some examples of squicky genetics in Bujold's work. Then someone
>> reviewed the next book, saying _inter alia_ "If you're a cat
>> person, when you encounter the word 'kitten,' close the book and
>> don't open it again."
>>
>> So I didn't open it in the first place.
>
>I know what the nasty is. The book is "Cetaganda". Yes, you would be
>offended by the device that the author used to show how perverted the
>Cetaganda society is.

I had already figured that out at the time.
>
>Wait, skip "Ethan
>of Athos" also if you do not want to read about a planet of men only.

I've read that one. Not particularly distressing, but not
something I'd want to read again.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On 12/22/2021 12:06 AM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <spucpu$r0t$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/21/2021 10:14 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <sptqga$h0j$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 12/21/2021 4:13 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dorothy, you need to read the Vorkosigan series !
>>>
>>> I read the first few of them. Then I came across the one with
>>> the genetically engineered cat blanket. I'd already encountered
>>> some examples of squicky genetics in Bujold's work. Then someone
>>> reviewed the next book, saying _inter alia_ "If you're a cat
>>> person, when you encounter the word 'kitten,' close the book and
>>> don't open it again."
>>>
>>> So I didn't open it in the first place.
>>
>> I know what the nasty is. The book is "Cetaganda". Yes, you would be
>> offended by the device that the author used to show how perverted the
>> Cetaganda society is.
>
> I had already figured that out at the time.
>>
>> Wait, skip "Ethan
>> of Athos" also if you do not want to read about a planet of men only.
>
> I've read that one. Not particularly distressing, but not
> something I'd want to read again.

Then I would jump to "Brothers In Arms". BIA through "Komarr" explains
the subplots in "A Civil Campaign". And they are great subplots
involving cloning, cryosleep, accidental death, imperial marriage, plots
to destroy the wormhole for Barrayar, etc.

Vorkosigan Saga (Chronological) by Lois McMaster Bujold
https://www.goodreads.com/series/98254-vorkosigan-saga-chronological
1. Dreamweaver's Dilemma
2. Falling Free
3. Shards of Honor
4. Barrayar
5. The Warrior's Apprentice
6. The Borders of Infinity (The Mountains of Mourning, etc)
7. The Vor Game
8. Cetaganda
9. Ethan Of Athos
10. Brothers in Arms
11. Mirror Dance
12. Memory
13. Komarr
14. A Civil Campaign
15. Diplomatic Immunity
16. Captain Vorpatril's Alliance
17. CryoBurn
18. Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen

Lynn