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 by: Bill Anderson - Tue, 1 Mar 2022 20:39 UTC

Denzel Washington is quite good in the title role and the other actors
acquit themselves equally well -- except for one in a minor role at the
end, the servant Wheyface, who reads his lines like the high schooler he
probably is. But that's appropriate, I guess, as who didn't read Macbeth
in high school?

I remember not really getting it at the time, even after attending an
art house showing of the Roman Polanski version when I was a little
older. But time has passed and I've grown in experience and the story
definitely resonates with me now. Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow
creeps in its petty pace from day to day to the last syllable of
recorded time, and all our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to
dusty death. Out, out brief candle. Life's but a walking shadow, a poor
player that struts and frets his time upon the stage and then is heard
no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing. Yeah, now I get it.

The movie may or may not win Denzel another Oscar -- though I would not
be surprised if it does -- but it's a lock I think for set design and
cinematography. Some of the shots, like Lady Macbeth standing on an
outcrop, were literally breathtaking for me. B&W photography is not yet
a forgotten art form.

A 10th-grader I know came over to my place to watch FREE GUY this past
weekend. Gamer that he is, it was his kind of movie and he loved it.
When it was over he asked what we were going to do next and I told him I
could take him home or he could stay and watch another movie of my
choosing. "Is it in color?" "Nope." "What's it about?" "It's got lots of
fighting and blood and murder and this guy kills the king and takes his
throne and his wife helps but she goes crazy and there are witches who
tell the future and ..." "What's the title?" "Macbeth." "Oh, I'm
supposed to write a paper on that. I'll watch."

He really liked it and I did too. He's also a great fan of Japanese
anime and I've told him I have a samurai movie he's sure to like. "is it
in color?" "Nope." "What's the title?" "Throne of Blood...."

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

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 by: BTR1701 - Wed, 2 Mar 2022 18:18 UTC

In article <W8GdnaEoHtkYGYP_nZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Bill Anderson <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Denzel Washington is quite good in the title role

No claims of cultural appropriation here? Strange.

Imagine the howls of fury if a white guy was cast to play Martin Luther
King.

I guess 'cultural appropriation' is another one of those things that's
only bad when white people do it.

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 by: trotsky - Thu, 3 Mar 2022 09:22 UTC

On 3/2/2022 1:19 AM, RichA wrote:
> On Tuesday, 1 March 2022 at 15:39:41 UTC-5, Bill Anderson wrote:
>> Denzel Washington is quite good in the title role
>
> Forgetting he's black, he's SEVENTY. Ridiculous casting.

You don't seem to get Shakespeare, just like most other things.
Shakespeare has been done so many times variations in casting have
become commonplace. You're remarkable in that I've never seen anyone
online so happy to air his ignorance. It's Trump-esque.

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 by: trotsky - Thu, 3 Mar 2022 09:24 UTC

On 3/2/2022 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <W8GdnaEoHtkYGYP_nZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Bill Anderson <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Denzel Washington is quite good in the title role
>
> No claims of cultural appropriation here? Strange.
>
> Imagine the howls of fury if a white guy was cast to play Martin Luther
> King.

Because his life is a famous work of fiction? You're a fucking joke.

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 by: BTR1701 - Fri, 4 Mar 2022 01:25 UTC

In article <16d8d4a8b47f128c$2$448849$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com>,
trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

> On 3/2/2022 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <W8GdnaEoHtkYGYP_nZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> > Bill Anderson <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Denzel Washington is quite good in the title role
> >
> > No claims of cultural appropriation here? Strange.
> >
> > Imagine the howls of fury if a white guy was cast to play Martin
> > Luther King.

> Because his life is a famous work of fiction?

MacBeth was a real king of Scotland, Hutt, you rancid sperm bubble.

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 by: trotsky - Fri, 4 Mar 2022 11:53 UTC

On 3/3/2022 7:25 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <16d8d4a8b47f128c$2$448849$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com>,
> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
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>> On 3/2/2022 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <W8GdnaEoHtkYGYP_nZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Bill Anderson <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Denzel Washington is quite good in the title role
>>>
>>> No claims of cultural appropriation here? Strange.
>>>
>>> Imagine the howls of fury if a white guy was cast to play Martin
>>> Luther King.
>
>> Because his life is a famous work of fiction?
>
> MacBeth was a real king of Scotland, Hutt, you rancid sperm bubble.

Oh, were the witches real too? It doesn't make any difference if it was
loosely based on history, it's Shakespeare, and it's a feather in the
cap of any actor that tackles it. Are you really too fucking stupid to
understand the gist of what I said? I'm thinking you are, actually.

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 by: trotsky - Fri, 4 Mar 2022 11:56 UTC

On 3/3/2022 7:25 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <16d8d4a8b47f128c$2$448849$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com>,
> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/2/2022 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <W8GdnaEoHtkYGYP_nZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> Bill Anderson <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Denzel Washington is quite good in the title role
>>>
>>> No claims of cultural appropriation here? Strange.
>>>
>>> Imagine the howls of fury if a white guy was cast to play Martin
>>> Luther King.
>
>> Because his life is a famous work of fiction?
>
> MacBeth was a real king of Scotland, Hutt, you rancid sperm bubble.

P.S. Did I miss the subsequent complaints about Othello being primarily
performed by white guys? Holy balls is this stupid.

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 by: BTR1701 - Sat, 5 Mar 2022 20:29 UTC

In article <16d92b5837b0dcab$1$3275790$d54a64@news.newsdemon.com>,
trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:

> On 3/3/2022 7:25 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <16d8d4a8b47f128c$2$448849$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com>,
> > trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/2/2022 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> In article <W8GdnaEoHtkYGYP_nZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >>> Bill Anderson <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Denzel Washington is quite good in the title role
> >>>
> >>> No claims of cultural appropriation here? Strange.
> >>>
> >>> Imagine the howls of fury if a white guy was cast to play Martin
> >>> Luther King.
> >
> >> Because his life is a famous work of fiction?
> >
> > MacBeth was a real king of Scotland, Hutt, you rancid sperm bubble.

> Oh, were the witches real too? It doesn't make any difference if it was
> loosely based on history, it's Shakespeare, and it's a feather in the
> cap of any actor that tackles it. Are you really too fucking stupid to
> understand the gist of what I said? I'm thinking you are, actually.

Shakespeare was white. This is white culture. For anyone but white
people to play the roles is cultural appropriation.

These are the rules you 'progressives' wanted. Choke on them.

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 by: trotsky - Sun, 6 Mar 2022 11:52 UTC

On 3/5/2022 2:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <16d92b5837b0dcab$1$3275790$d54a64@news.newsdemon.com>,
> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/3/2022 7:25 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>> In article <16d8d4a8b47f128c$2$448849$48d50260@news.newsdemon.com>,
>>> trotsky <gmsingh@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/2/2022 12:18 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> In article <W8GdnaEoHtkYGYP_nZ2dnUU7-WnNnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>> Bill Anderson <billanderson601@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Denzel Washington is quite good in the title role
>>>>>
>>>>> No claims of cultural appropriation here? Strange.
>>>>>
>>>>> Imagine the howls of fury if a white guy was cast to play Martin
>>>>> Luther King.
>>>
>>>> Because his life is a famous work of fiction?
>>>
>>> MacBeth was a real king of Scotland, Hutt, you rancid sperm bubble.
>
>> Oh, were the witches real too? It doesn't make any difference if it was
>> loosely based on history, it's Shakespeare, and it's a feather in the
>> cap of any actor that tackles it. Are you really too fucking stupid to
>> understand the gist of what I said? I'm thinking you are, actually.
>
> Shakespeare was white. This is white culture. For anyone but white
> people to play the roles is cultural appropriation.
>
> These are the rules you 'progressives' wanted. Choke on them.

Right, you're a supporter of Trump and Shakespeare--you're so cultured!
I hope Anim8r slaps your little bottom just for saying that! GQP!!

Seriously though get your incredibly weak white supremacist bullshit out
of here.

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