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* "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and WalterLynn McGuire
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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 29 Sep 2021 22:33 UTC

"Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
https://www.amazon.com/Enterprise-Stardust-Perry-Rhodan-Scheer/dp/B0007I83EU/

Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
in the thousands. The English books mostly have two translated German
stories per book. The German books were written from 1961 to present
time, having sold two billion copies and even recently been rebooted. I
read the well printed and well bound fourth edition book published by
Ace in 1974 (first published in 1969) that I had to be very careful with
due to age. I bought an almost complete box of Perry Rhodans a decade
or two ago on ebay that I am finally getting to since I lost my original
Perry Rhodans in The Great Flood of 1989.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Rhodan

In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
nuclear. After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
500.

Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl. Except it extends to
somewhere around 2600 volumes in the original German. This book is the
English translation that was started in 1969 and ran out of steam in the
USA in volume #117/118."

"I believe that the original premise of Perry Rhodan was fairly
original. A spaceship takes off from the USA and finds a crashed alien
spaceship on the moon. This premise has been copied a few times, most
notably in David Weber's _Mutineers_Moon_, a work of five star
excellence in my humble opinion."

"I also am a big fan of the technology in the first issue of PR. The
space ship that PR flies to the moon is a chemical first stage and
nuclear second and third stages. I am in total belief that the lack of
nuclear rocket engines is one of the failures of our current space program."

My rating: 4 out of 5 stars
Amazon rating: 4.8 out of 5 stars (16 reviews).

Lynn

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Subject: Re: "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
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 by: Christian Weisgerber - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 18:31 UTC

On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman

Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.

> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number

Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.

> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow

US _Space_ Force, please.

> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
> nuclear.

Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
mission might actually look like.

> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
> 500.

Name changes in the English translation:
Crest -> Khrest
Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell

> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.

That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
a galactic power.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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 by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 21:09 UTC

In article <slrnslc0k1.1rb.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
>> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
>
>Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.
>
>> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
>> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
>
>Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
>but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.
>
>> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
>
>US _Space_ Force, please.
>
>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
>> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
>> nuclear.
>
>Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
>were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
>mission might actually look like.
>
>> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
>> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
>> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
>> 500.
>
>Name changes in the English translation:
>Crest -> Khrest
>Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell
>
>> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>
>That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>a galactic power.
>

Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
the girl is not.
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Thu, 30 Sep 2021 22:50 UTC

On 9/30/2021 4:09 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <slrnslc0k1.1rb.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>> On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
>>> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
>>
>> Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.
>>
>>> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
>>> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
>>
>> Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
>> but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.
>>
>>> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
>>
>> US _Space_ Force, please.
>>
>>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
>>> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
>>> nuclear.
>>
>> Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
>> were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
>> mission might actually look like.
>>
>>> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
>>> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
>>> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
>>> 500.
>>
>> Name changes in the English translation:
>> Crest -> Khrest
>> Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell
>>
>>> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
>>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>>
>> That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>> is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>> leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>> a galactic power.
>>
>
> Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
> the girl is not.

! ! ! SPOILER ALERT ! ! !

Lynn

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 by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 00:02 UTC

In article <sj5evp$vmh$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 9/30/2021 4:09 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article <slrnslc0k1.1rb.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>> On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
>>>> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
>>>
>>> Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.
>>>
>>>> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
>>>> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
>>>
>>> Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
>>> but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.
>>>
>>>> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
>>>
>>> US _Space_ Force, please.
>>>
>>>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
>>>> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
>>>> nuclear.
>>>
>>> Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
>>> were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
>>> mission might actually look like.
>>>
>>>> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
>>>> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
>>>> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
>>>> 500.
>>>
>>> Name changes in the English translation:
>>> Crest -> Khrest
>>> Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell
>>>
>>>> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
>>>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>>>
>>> That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>>> is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>>> leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>>> a galactic power.
>>>
>>
>> Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
>> the girl is not.
>
>! ! ! SPOILER ALERT ! ! !
>

Also, Ahab never gets the whale..

:-)
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 01:56 UTC

On 9/30/2021 7:02 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <sj5evp$vmh$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/30/2021 4:09 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> In article <slrnslc0k1.1rb.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
>>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>>> On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
>>>>> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
>>>>
>>>> Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.
>>>>
>>>>> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
>>>>> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
>>>>
>>>> Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
>>>> but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.
>>>>
>>>>> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
>>>>
>>>> US _Space_ Force, please.
>>>>
>>>>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
>>>>> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
>>>>> nuclear.
>>>>
>>>> Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
>>>> were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
>>>> mission might actually look like.
>>>>
>>>>> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
>>>>> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
>>>>> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
>>>>> 500.
>>>>
>>>> Name changes in the English translation:
>>>> Crest -> Khrest
>>>> Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell
>>>>
>>>>> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
>>>>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>>>>
>>>> That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>>>> is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>>>> leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>>>> a galactic power.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
>>> the girl is not.
>>
>> ! ! ! SPOILER ALERT ! ! !
>>
>
> Also, Ahab never gets the whale..
>
> :-)

I have not read that book either ! And the movie was boring.

Lynn

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 by: J. Clarke - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 03:23 UTC

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:56:43 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 9/30/2021 7:02 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article <sj5evp$vmh$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/30/2021 4:09 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>> In article <slrnslc0k1.1rb.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
>>>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
>>>>>> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
>>>>>> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
>>>>> but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.
>>>>>
>>>>>> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
>>>>>
>>>>> US _Space_ Force, please.
>>>>>
>>>>>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
>>>>>> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
>>>>>> nuclear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
>>>>> were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
>>>>> mission might actually look like.
>>>>>
>>>>>> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
>>>>>> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
>>>>>> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
>>>>>> 500.
>>>>>
>>>>> Name changes in the English translation:
>>>>> Crest -> Khrest
>>>>> Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell
>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
>>>>>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>>>>> is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>>>>> leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>>>>> a galactic power.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
>>>> the girl is not.
>>>
>>> ! ! ! SPOILER ALERT ! ! !
>>>
>>
>> Also, Ahab never gets the whale..
>>
>> :-)
>
>I have not read that book either ! And the movie was boring.

Which one? There have been at least six.
>
>Lynn

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 by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 03:33 UTC

In article <rjvclgp0uq0fson167k3jkesfk72si6kj3@4ax.com>,
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:56:43 -0500, Lynn McGuire
><lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 9/30/2021 7:02 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> In article <sj5evp$vmh$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/2021 4:09 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>> In article <slrnslc0k1.1rb.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
>>>>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
>>>>>>> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
>>>>>>> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
>>>>>> but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
>>>>>>
>>>>>> US _Space_ Force, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
>>>>>>> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
>>>>>>> nuclear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
>>>>>> were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
>>>>>> mission might actually look like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
>>>>>>> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
>>>>>>> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
>>>>>>> 500.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Name changes in the English translation:
>>>>>> Crest -> Khrest
>>>>>> Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
>>>>>>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>>>>>> is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>>>>>> leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>>>>>> a galactic power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
>>>>> the girl is not.
>>>>
>>>> ! ! ! SPOILER ALERT ! ! !
>>>>
>>>
>>> Also, Ahab never gets the whale..
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>>I have not read that book either ! And the movie was boring.
>
>Which one? There have been at least six.

Bradbury wrote one.
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 04:25 UTC

On 9/30/2021 10:23 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:56:43 -0500, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/30/2021 7:02 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> In article <sj5evp$vmh$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/30/2021 4:09 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>> In article <slrnslc0k1.1rb.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
>>>>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
>>>>>>> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
>>>>>>> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
>>>>>> but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
>>>>>>
>>>>>> US _Space_ Force, please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
>>>>>>> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
>>>>>>> nuclear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
>>>>>> were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
>>>>>> mission might actually look like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
>>>>>>> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
>>>>>>> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
>>>>>>> 500.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Name changes in the English translation:
>>>>>> Crest -> Khrest
>>>>>> Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
>>>>>>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>>>>>> is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>>>>>> leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>>>>>> a galactic power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
>>>>> the girl is not.
>>>>
>>>> ! ! ! SPOILER ALERT ! ! !
>>>>
>>>
>>> Also, Ahab never gets the whale..
>>>
>>> :-)
>>
>> I have not read that book either ! And the movie was boring.
>
> Which one? There have been at least six.
>>
>> Lynn

It was the movie with the whale and the boat.

Lynn

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 by: Christian Weisgerber - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 15:18 UTC

On 2021-09-30, Ted Nolan <tednolan> <ted@loft.tnolan.com> wrote:

> Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
> the girl is not.

Over the centuries, Perry Rhodan will pick up a number of wives,
some of them also given immortality[1]--in a totally, guaranteed,
absolutely non-nepotistic way, ermmm, and also raising embarrassing
fan questions how the "cell activator" magic technology as described
interacts with pregnancy. Anyway, the authors never knew what to
do with the wives and they all suffered unceremonious deaths. Or
so I think. Memorable they were not.

[1] Immortality in the series is mostly not achievable by the
available means of a galactic civilization and is only bestowed by
a Super Intelligence in some way or another. A side effect of this
is that some species turn out to be really long-lived, because the
authors didn't want to let beloved characters die.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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 by: Paul S Person - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 15:47 UTC

On 30 Sep 2021 21:09:44 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
<tednolan>) wrote:

>In article <slrnslc0k1.1rb.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
>Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
>>> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
>>
>>Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.
>>
>>> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
>>> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
>>
>>Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
>>but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.
>>
>>> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
>>
>>US _Space_ Force, please.
>>
>>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
>>> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
>>> nuclear.
>>
>>Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
>>were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
>>mission might actually look like.
>>
>>> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
>>> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
>>> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
>>> 500.
>>
>>Name changes in the English translation:
>>Crest -> Khrest
>>Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell
>>
>>> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
>>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>>
>>That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>>is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>>leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>>a galactic power.
>>
>
>Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
>the girl is not.

Anyone who has seen /Highlander/ (the first movie, not some TV show)
knows how well /that/ works.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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 by: Paul S Person - Fri, 1 Oct 2021 15:49 UTC

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 23:25:39 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 9/30/2021 10:23 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 20:56:43 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/30/2021 7:02 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>> In article <sj5evp$vmh$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/30/2021 4:09 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <slrnslc0k1.1rb.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
>>>>>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021-09-29, Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter
>>>>>>>> Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh. I would have expected "Operation Stardust" as title.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Book number one of a series of one hundred and twenty-six space opera
>>>>>>>> books in English. The original German books, actually pamphlets, number
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently that specific publishing format doesn't exist in the US,
>>>>>>> but I think "pulps" is a good approximation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this alternate universe, USAF Major Perry Rhodan and his three fellow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> US _Space_ Force, please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> astronauts blasted off in a three stage rocket to the Moon in 1971. The
>>>>>>>> first stage of the rocket was chemical, the second and third stages were
>>>>>>>> nuclear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember, this was written in 1961. The date and the technology
>>>>>>> were at the time a plausible speculation what the first manned moon
>>>>>>> mission might actually look like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After crashing on the Moon due to a strange radio
>>>>>>>> interference, they discover a crashed massive alien spaceship with an
>>>>>>>> aged male scientist (Khrest), a female commander (Thora), and a crew of
>>>>>>>> 500.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Name changes in the English translation:
>>>>>>> Crest -> Khrest
>>>>>>> Reginald "Bully" Bull -> Reginald "Bull" Bell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is my 2011 review of the book, "Perry Rhodan is the classic tale of
>>>>>>>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>>>>>>> is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>>>>>>> leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>>>>>>> a galactic power.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, it does kind of ignore the denoument of the boy being immortal while
>>>>>> the girl is not.
>>>>>
>>>>> ! ! ! SPOILER ALERT ! ! !
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, Ahab never gets the whale..
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> I have not read that book either ! And the movie was boring.
>>
>> Which one? There have been at least six.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>
>It was the movie with the whale and the boat.

But was it the /Moby Dick/ screenwritten by Bradbury?

Or the alleged "real story" by (IIRC) de Palma?

The book /Moby Dick/ has a lot of cetology in it. Out of date
cetology, no doubt. Also a fair amount of detail on what it took to
equip a ship for a three-year whaling voyage. So, dull or not, it's
not a /total/ waste of time.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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Subject: Re: "Enterprise Stardust (Perry Rhodan)" by K. H. Scheer and Walter Ernsting, translated by Wendayne Ackerman
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 by: Don - Wed, 6 Oct 2021 19:36 UTC

Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> Lynn McGuire wrote:

<snip>

>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>
> That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
> is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
> leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
> a galactic power.

Lynn's got a point with the way the Thora Rhodan romance reappears from
time to time. Albeit with less regularity than when another Springer
subplot jumps out into the reader's face.
At first, the romance riff's nearly as predictable as an American
sitcom where everyone else, except the couple itself, clearly sees how
the couple's a perfect match. The audience is kept in suspense as it
awaits a lover's epiphany (although it may never happen in non-PR
oeuvres).
PR's plot proper in the Moewigs stretches out the length of time
between successive Rhodan romance reappearances. But Ace adds a little
love story to the mix:

https://www.perrypedia.de/wiki/Der_Flug_nach_Eden

###

With the benefit of their hindsight, Creators Darlton and Scheer lay out
PR's overarching storyline in the intro to the ePub version of Nr. 1
„Unternehmen „Stardust““ (shown below as Note [1]) The ePub revises
Moewig's original pulp preface (soon to be released in my review of Nr.
1 „Unternehmen „Stardust““).

###

Christian, your advice about how the PR story seriously shifts into high
gear around Nr. 200, did not fall on deaf ears. However, as a Wendayne
Ackerman adherent, it's imperative for me to read all of the stories,
despite dormant direness within. So Moewig Nr. 100 - Nr. 199 were
recently acquired.

###

Ackerman's first Ace contains the first two Moewig stories. The
Ackerman's apparently aspired to catch up to Moewig eventually. But they
gave up after Ace #5 and started to include only one Moewig story in
each subsequent release, along with other content: Scientifilm World,
non-PR Shock Short stories, serializations, the Rhodanary, the Perry
Scope, and an editorial.

Note.

[1] LIEBER LESER!
Mit dem vorliegenden Titel „Unternehmen Stardust“ halten
Sie den ersten Band der Perry Rhodan-Serie, eines großen
Roman-Zyklus', in der Hand. In spannenden, jeweils in sich
abgeschlossenen Abenteuern wird darin über den Aufstieg der
Menschheit zum galaktischen Machtfaktor Nr. 1 berichtet.
Perry Rhodan ist eine Vision – die unter großen
Schwierigkeiten erfolgende Ausdehnung der Menschheit in die
unfasslichen Weiten der Galaxis.
Das, was bisher auf der Erde geschah, ist in den
historischen Werken nachzulesen. Die Geschichte unserer neuen
Roman-Serie Perry Rhodan aber beginnt in der Gegenwart und
setzt sich fort bis in immer fernere Zukunft.
Perry Rhodan, der Erbe einer galaktischen Großmacht, ist
Forscher, Raumpilot und fanatischer Verfechter des Gedankens
an eine vereinte und starke Erde. Mit ihm beschreitet die
Menschheit einen Weg, dessen Ende nicht abzusehen ist. Er
führt hinein in die vor uns liegenden Jahrtausende und über
Abgründe hinweg zu Sternenreichen, die seit Millionen von
Jahren auf uns warten. Er führt in eine Zeit, in der die
Nachkommen der Menschen von der Erde nur noch wie von einem
Mythos reden und ein vereinsamter Planet um eine längst
erloschene Sonne kreist, die einst Mittelpunkt des Universums
war.
Die Perry Rhodan-Serie konnte nur in Gemeinschaftsarbeit
geschaffen werden, wir schrieben sie daher zusammen mit
namhaften anderen deutschen SF-Autoren. Sie aber, als Leser
von Perry Rhodan, werden das große Abenteuer der Zukunft
miterleben können, und wir wünschen, dass Sie uns auf unserer
weiteren Reise in das Universum ein treuer Begleiter sein werden.

CLARK DARLTON K. H. SCHEER

The following translation's a blend of translate.google.com and
translate.bing.com, with a dash of my own interpretation. See
https://nedludssocks.blogspot.com/ for the hazards of machine
translation.

DEAR READER!
With the present title "Operation Stardust" you hold the
first volume of the Perry Rhodan series, a great novel cycle,
in your hand. In exciting, self-contained adventures, it
chronicles the rise of humanity to the supreme galactic
power.
Perry Rhodan is a vision - the expansion of humanity into
the vast expanses of the galaxy, which takes place with great
difficulty.
What has happened on Earth so far can be read in the
historical works. The story of our new novel series Perry
Rhodan, however, begins in the present and continues into
the ever more distant future.
Perry Rhodan, heir to a great galactic power, is a
researcher, space pilot and fanatical advocate of the idea
of ​​a united and strong earth. With him mankind treads a path
whose end cannot be foreseen. It leads into the millennia
ahead and across abysses to the realms of stars that have
been waiting for us for millions of years. It leads to a
time in which the descendants of humans speak of the earth
only as a myth and a lonely planet revolves around a long-
extinguished sun, which was once the center of the universe.
The Perry Rhodan series could only be created in
collaboration, so we wrote it together with well-known other
German SF authors. But you, as a reader of Perry Rhodan, will
be able to witness the great adventure of the future, and we
hope that you will be a faithful companion for us on our
further journey into the universe.

Danke,

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In article <20211006a@crcomp.net>, Don <g@crcomp.net> wrote:
>Christian Weisgerber wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>> boy meets girl, boy likes girl, boy gets girl.
>>
>> That is a most bizarre take on the series. Instead, Perry Rhodan
>> is the classic tale of the guy who unites the people of Earth and
>> leads them on the way from a meaningless backwater planet to becoming
>> a galactic power.
>
>Lynn's got a point with the way the Thora Rhodan romance reappears from
>time to time. Albeit with less regularity than when another Springer
>subplot jumps out into the reader's face.
> At first, the romance riff's nearly as predictable as an American
>sitcom where everyone else, except the couple itself, clearly sees how
>the couple's a perfect match. The audience is kept in suspense as it
>awaits a lover's epiphany (although it may never happen in non-PR
>oeuvres).
> PR's plot proper in the Moewigs stretches out the length of time
>between successive Rhodan romance reappearances. But Ace adds a little
>love story to the mix:
>
>https://www.perrypedia.de/wiki/Der_Flug_nach_Eden
>
>###
>
>With the benefit of their hindsight, Creators Darlton and Scheer lay out
>PR's overarching storyline in the intro to the ePub version of Nr. 1
>„Unternehmen „Stardust““ (shown below as Note [1]) The ePub revises
>Moewig's original pulp preface (soon to be released in my review of Nr.
>1 „Unternehmen „Stardust““).
>
>###
>
>Christian, your advice about how the PR story seriously shifts into high
>gear around Nr. 200, did not fall on deaf ears. However, as a Wendayne
>Ackerman adherent, it's imperative for me to read all of the stories,
>despite dormant direness within. So Moewig Nr. 100 - Nr. 199 were
>recently acquired.
>
>###
>
>Ackerman's first Ace contains the first two Moewig stories. The
>Ackerman's apparently aspired to catch up to Moewig eventually. But they
>gave up after Ace #5 and started to include only one Moewig story in
>each subsequent release, along with other content: Scientifilm World,
>non-PR Shock Short stories, serializations, the Rhodanary, the Perry
>Scope, and an editorial.
>

I don't know this, but my presumption has been that they saved on
per-US-issue money sent to Germany that way. Also presumably Ackerman
was able to send a few bucks those golden-agers he was agenting for.
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