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* OT?: Music preferences and moral valuesNotsure01
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 `* Re: OT?: Music preferences and moral valuesHerman
  `- Re: OT?: Music preferences and moral valuesDan Koren

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Subject: OT?: Music preferences and moral values
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 by: Notsure01 - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 19:54 UTC

FYI. From Queen Mary University of London’s Centre for Doctoral Training
in Data-informed Audience-centric Media Engineering

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0294402

"The association between an individual’s psychological traits and music
listening preferences is becoming increasingly popular, particularly for
customizing music recommendations, enhancing communication strategies,
and advancing music therapy approaches for health and wellbeing".

"We employed various techniques to identify the moral valence, attitude,
and emotions conveyed in the {song's}lyrics".

"On a final note, although our results indicated that music preferences
carry information about individuals’ moral worldviews that goes beyond
basic demographics, there may be other factors not included in our
study, such as socio-economic status, religion, culture, and hobbies,
that could further support our findings".

"Further, we found that models built with either timbre or pitch
features had good accuracy for predicting each moral foundation".

"Republicans have a better understanding of moral psychology and how it
is used in political campaigns, as evidenced by their ability to use
moral rhetoric in slogans and songs effectively by triggering the full
range of intuitions described by the five MFT traits. Like Democrats,
they can talk about innocent people and fairness, but they put more
emphasis on resonating with the virtues of loyalty, authority and
purity; in contrast, Democrats only focus on the ethics of empathy and
equality".

"more liberal individuals preferred reflective and complex music (e.g.
jazz, blues, and classical), while more traditional and conservative
individuals preferred more traditional and upbeat music (e.g. pop and
"religious music)".

"From the results of MFT questionnaires, we saw that women scored higher
than men in Care, Fairness and Purity foundations. We also found that
individuals with more central Binding and Ingroup values preferred more
popular and mainstream artists suggesting that these individuals are
more likely to be influenced by social norms and group opinions. This is
consistent with the idea that music preferences play a role in social
bonding, as shared musical tastes can indicate similar values and
dispositions".

" we found that by analysing the lyrics of one’s preferred artists,
reliable inferences about that individual’s moral values can be made
[18]. Values associated with ethics of tradition and hierarchy were more
accurately predicted by lyrics features than values related to virtues
of equality and compassion".

"correlation results which suggested that individuals with higher scores
for Care and Fairness preferred artists whose songs are more acoustic
and include fewer speech elements. While for Authority, Purity, and
Loyalty, the prediction results with audio features improved only
marginally. They did not outperform lyrics predictors, implying that
individuals who value these foundations more may prioritise lyrics that
align with their beliefs over the song’s musicality when selecting music
to listen to".

Aimez-vous Brahms? Or Faure? Wagner? Pfitzner?

For me, "the moral valence, attitude, and emotions conveyed in the
lyrics" is "I feel air from another planet.
The faces that once turned to me in friendship
Pale in the darkness before me".

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 by: Notsure01 - Thu, 30 Nov 2023 21:44 UTC

On 11/30/23 2:54 PM, Notsure01 wrote:
> FYI. From Queen Mary University of London’s Centre for Doctoral Training
> in Data-informed Audience-centric Media Engineering
>
On Thursday, 30 November 2023 at 20:15:58 UTC, Andy Evans wrote:
> Sounds like a pretty hare brained study.

Agreed!

But I'm wondering if there is really any correlation at all between our
music preferences and our moral perspectives - or our personalities??

If I like Carl Ruggles does that say anything about me - that we both
have disagreeable personalities? Or if I prefer works from the classical
period, does that mean that I have conservative tastes?

Or is all this just pretentious twaddle?

But: then how would an effective music algorithm choose works for me? Or
is AI just... humbug?

I ask the questions...

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 by: Herman - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 08:45 UTC

twaddle.

out of the world population most people don't even have a 'musical preference.'.

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 by: Dan Koren - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 08:53 UTC

On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 12:45:39 AM UTC-8, Herman wrote:
> twaddle.
>
> out of the world population most
> people don't even have a 'musical
> preference.'.

This is precisely why he is not sure.

Cheers

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