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* Re: Bruckner 5: is there a 4th dimension?Roland van Gaalen
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`* Re: Bruckner 5: is there a 4th dimension?Dan Koren
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Subject: Re: Bruckner 5: is there a 4th dimension?
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 by: Roland van Gaalen - Mon, 4 Dec 2023 15:11 UTC

Dan Koren wrote:
> [...]
> https://youtu.be/ZxMoYYwSozA
SWR Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchetra / Celibidache conducting
NO.
Too slow. Dull.
> https://youtu.be/eOfz0VB8inA
BBC Orchestra / Horenstein conducting (1971, live)
YES!.

>
> https://youtu.be/HYTvZJQckxk
Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra / Klemperer conducting (1968, live)
YES!
--
Roland van Gaalen
Amsterdam

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I suppose this noble conductor knew something:

Concertgebouw Orchestra / Harnoncourt conducting (2013, live)
https://www.concertgebouworkest.nl/en/video/bruckner-symphony-no-5-1
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Roland van Gaalen
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 by: mswd...@gmail.com - Mon, 4 Dec 2023 18:44 UTC

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 11:26:00 AM UTC-6, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
> I suppose this noble conductor knew something:
>
> Concertgebouw Orchestra / Harnoncourt conducting (2013, live)
> https://www.concertgebouworkest.nl/en/video/bruckner-symphony-no-5-1
> --
> Roland van Gaalen
> Amsterdam

I still think Sawallisch and Eichhorn sit at the top. NH is quite good, for sure.

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 by: Dan Koren - Mon, 4 Dec 2023 21:21 UTC

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 7:11:58 AM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
> Dan Koren wrote:
> > [...]
> > https://youtu.be/ZxMoYYwSozA
> SWR Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchetra / Celibidache conducting
> NO.
> Too slow. Dull.

Play it on 45 rpm! ;-)

This is what I do with
Kempff's recordings.

Cheers

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Subject: Re: Bruckner 5: is there a 4th dimension?
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 by: Roland van Gaalen - Mon, 4 Dec 2023 21:57 UTC

Op maandag 4 december 2023 om 22:22:01 UTC+1 schreef Dan Koren:
> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 7:11:58 AM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
> > Dan Koren wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > https://youtu.be/ZxMoYYwSozA
> > SWR Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchetra / Celibidache conducting
> > NO.
> > Too slow. Dull.
> Play it on 45 rpm! ;-)
>
> This is what I do with
> Kempff's recordings.
>
> Cheers

The Klemperer recording you recommended (Vienna Philharmonic, 1968, live) would now be at the top of my pile if I had that cd in my possession.

Unfortunately , the Testament box (SBT8 1365) which contains it is expensive and it includes two recordings I already have on another CD:
Schubert 8 "Unfinished" and Beethoven 5, also outstanding.

It also contains this gem:
https://youtu.be/7_r_idZu1GM?si=rs0FGGuv-Q2lsyxH
Mozart 41 "Jupiter" / Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra / Klemperer conducting (1968, live)
--
Roland van Gaalen
Amsterdam

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Subject: Re: Bruckner 5: is there a 4th dimension?
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 by: Dan Koren - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 05:53 UTC

On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 1:57:46 PM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
> Op maandag 4 december 2023 om 22:22:01 UTC+1 schreef Dan Koren:
> > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 7:11:58 AM UTC-8, Roland van Gaalen wrote:
> > > Dan Koren wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > https://youtu.be/ZxMoYYwSozA
> > > SWR Stuttgart Radio Symphony Orchetra / Celibidache conducting
> > > NO.
> > > Too slow. Dull.
> >
> > Play it on 45 rpm! ;-)
> >
> > This is what I do with
> > Kempff's recordings.
>
> The Klemperer recording you recommended
> (Vienna Philharmonic, 1968, live) would now
> be at the top of my pile if I had that cd in my
> possession.
>
> Unfortunately , the Testament box (SBT8 1365)
> which contains it is expensive and it includes
> two recordings I already have on another CD:

Download it from YouTube and burn the MP4A
to a CD.

Cheers

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