In my youth, I remember often hearing this particular song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKmpsf3uKI

but it has only now shown up on YouTube. (It could
previously be heard as part of a video of a live performance
by many different artists that went on for several hours.)

The song to which the link is given above is "Rosaline",
sung by Russ Thornberry. Now going more formally as
Russell Thornberry, he is indeed the same fellow from
Texas who lived in Canada for a while, and now has a
cable TV show about hunting.

Why, that song was almost as popular in Canada as this
one (which is easy to find on YouTube):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tr_L31StI

The one above is "If You Could Read My Mind", by Gordon
Lightfoot.

Not, of course, to be confused with this song with a somewhat
similar title by John Williams:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFgF2Py2OtE

here performed by Maureen McGovern.

John Savard

On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 11:46:44 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> In my youth, I remember often hearing this particular song...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKmpsf3uKI
>
> but it has only now shown up on YouTube. (It could
> previously be heard as part of a video of a live performance
> by many different artists that went on for several hours.)
>
> The song to which the link is given above is "Rosaline",
> sung by Russ Thornberry. Now going more formally as
> Russell Thornberry, he is indeed the same fellow from
> Texas who lived in Canada for a while, and now has a
> cable TV show about hunting.
>
> Why, that song was almost as popular in Canada as this
> one (which is easy to find on YouTube):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tr_L31StI
>
> The one above is "If You Could Read My Mind", by Gordon
> Lightfoot.

Of course, many might be hesitant to click on the links above,
knowing nothing of the musical genre to which they belong.

So I will note that they are somewhat similar to songs more
familiar to Americans such as these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLPiYZrwAzU
Sweet Caroline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ighSddnnaPE
Song Sung Blue

by Neil Diamond.

John Savard

On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 11:46:44 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> In my youth, I remember often hearing this particular song...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKmpsf3uKI
>
> but it has only now shown up on YouTube. (It could
> previously be heard as part of a video of a live performance
> by many different artists that went on for several hours.)
>
> The song to which the link is given above is "Rosaline",
> sung by Russ Thornberry. Now going more formally as
> Russell Thornberry, he is indeed the same fellow from
> Texas who lived in Canada for a while, and now has a
> cable TV show about hunting.

There are other songs with "Rosaline" as their title.

One from the 1950s is available in at least these three
versions on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4yIRdUJsas
Joe Loss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1UIDkWOwO8
Teddy Johnson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOmrJhosNAU
Gustav Winckler

and these three artists each have their own songs with
that title:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LM5czzKZPE
Mirabai Kukathas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnJWQ6ZsrPs
Blue Lenex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys7SdHhXL7c
Cold Chisel

John Savard

On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 11:57:48 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 11:46:44 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> > In my youth, I remember often hearing this particular song...
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKmpsf3uKI
> >
> > but it has only now shown up on YouTube. (It could
> > previously be heard as part of a video of a live performance
> > by many different artists that went on for several hours.)
> >
> > The song to which the link is given above is "Rosaline",
> > sung by Russ Thornberry. Now going more formally as
> > Russell Thornberry, he is indeed the same fellow from
> > Texas who lived in Canada for a while, and now has a
> > cable TV show about hunting.
> >
> > Why, that song was almost as popular in Canada as this
> > one (which is easy to find on YouTube):
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tr_L31StI
> >
> > The one above is "If You Could Read My Mind", by Gordon
> > Lightfoot.
> Of course, many might be hesitant to click on the links above,
> knowing nothing of the musical genre to which they belong.
>
> So I will note that they are somewhat similar to songs more
> familiar to Americans such as these:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLPiYZrwAzU
> Sweet Caroline
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ighSddnnaPE
> Song Sung Blue
>
> by Neil Diamond.

I was thinking of another song the other day.

It has a catchy melody, but the subject matter of the
song, I would have thought, would be disturbing.

And yet it was by Neil Diamond, not by Gordon Lightfoot;
somehow, it managed to be permitted to succeed
in the American market.

It is, of course, Cracklin' Rosie that I refer to.

John Savard

On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 11:19:45 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 11:57:48 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 17, 2021 at 11:46:44 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> > > In my youth, I remember often hearing this particular song...
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKmpsf3uKI
> > >
> > > but it has only now shown up on YouTube. (It could
> > > previously be heard as part of a video of a live performance
> > > by many different artists that went on for several hours.)
> > >
> > > The song to which the link is given above is "Rosaline",
> > > sung by Russ Thornberry. Now going more formally as
> > > Russell Thornberry, he is indeed the same fellow from
> > > Texas who lived in Canada for a while, and now has a
> > > cable TV show about hunting.
> > >
> > > Why, that song was almost as popular in Canada as this
> > > one (which is easy to find on YouTube):
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tr_L31StI
> > >
> > > The one above is "If You Could Read My Mind", by Gordon
> > > Lightfoot.
> > Of course, many might be hesitant to click on the links above,
> > knowing nothing of the musical genre to which they belong.
> >
> > So I will note that they are somewhat similar to songs more
> > familiar to Americans such as these:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLPiYZrwAzU
> > Sweet Caroline
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ighSddnnaPE
> > Song Sung Blue
> >
> > by Neil Diamond.
> I was thinking of another song the other day.
>
> It has a catchy melody, but the subject matter of the
> song, I would have thought, would be disturbing.
>
> And yet it was by Neil Diamond, not by Gordon Lightfoot;
> somehow, it managed to be permitted to succeed
> in the American market.
>
> It is, of course, Cracklin' Rosie that I refer to.

I once heard that the song referred to carbonated rosé
wine, popular on Indian reservations, where it's comfort
replaced that of an actual girlfriend for lonely men.

Pt

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 12:27:42 AM UTC-4, pete...@gmail.com wrote:

[snip]

> I once heard that the song referred to carbonated rosé
> wine, popular on Indian reservations, where it's comfort
> replaced that of an actual girlfriend for lonely men.
>
> Pt

See:

https://www.songfacts.com/facts/neil-diamond/cracklin-rosie

--
Kevin R

On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 1:46:44 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> In my youth, I remember often hearing this particular song...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKmpsf3uKI
>
> but it has only now shown up on YouTube. (It could
> previously be heard as part of a video of a live performance
> by many different artists that went on for several hours.)
>
> The song to which the link is given above is "Rosaline",
> sung by Russ Thornberry. Now going more formally as
> Russell Thornberry, he is indeed the same fellow from
> Texas who lived in Canada for a while, and now has a
> cable TV show about hunting.
>
> Why, that song was almost as popular in Canada

Never heard it. Nobody here has heard of it. Name of the singer is familiar, but not very.

as this
> one (which is easy to find on YouTube):
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tr_L31StI
>
> The one above is "If You Could Read My Mind", by Gordon
> Lightfoot.

Heard it endlessly. Could recite lyrics from memory.

William Hyde

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 11:13:38 AM UTC-6, Kevrob wrote:

> See:
>
> https://www.songfacts.com/facts/neil-diamond/cracklin-rosie

Oh dear. I had no idea there was that kind of Canadian connection to it.

It was bad enough had the song been about white people who were
down and out abusing alcohol.

John Savard

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 2:24:54 PM UTC-6, William Hyde wrote:

> Heard it endlessly. Could recite lyrics from memory.

Well, for some reason, at least for a while, I heard Rosaline
almost as endlessly as, at another time, I heard If You Could
Read My Mind.

John Savard

On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 2:24:54 PM UTC-6, William Hyde wrote:
>
>> Heard it endlessly. Could recite lyrics from memory.
>
>Well, for some reason, at least for a while, I heard Rosaline
>almost as endlessly as, at another time, I heard If You Could
>Read My Mind.

If it was on the Radio, then the reason is simple:

it attracted listeners, which sold commercial time to advertisers.

--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

In article <ds00oglj0apcht86fqt63372qfo20qdcni@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson1@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
><jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 2:24:54 PM UTC-6, William Hyde wrote:
>>
>>> Heard it endlessly. Could recite lyrics from memory.
>>
>>Well, for some reason, at least for a while, I heard Rosaline
>>almost as endlessly as, at another time, I heard If You Could
>>Read My Mind.
>
>If it was on the Radio, then the reason is simple:
>
>it attracted listeners, which sold commercial time to advertisers.

Unless it was on the CBC, which didn't have ads.

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On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 10:05:57 AM UTC-6, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <ds00oglj0apcht86f...@4ax.com>,
> Paul S Person <pspe...@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
> >On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> ><jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >>On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 2:24:54 PM UTC-6, William Hyde wrote:

> >>> Heard it endlessly. Could recite lyrics from memory.

> >>Well, for some reason, at least for a while, I heard Rosaline
> >>almost as endlessly as, at another time, I heard If You Could
> >>Read My Mind.

> >If it was on the Radio, then the reason is simple:

> >it attracted listeners, which sold commercial time to advertisers.

> Unless it was on the CBC, which didn't have ads.

One of the places I remember Rosaline from was The Russ Thornberry
Show on CTV television, IIRC. It's not surprising to have heard it there,
it's like hearing Moon River on The Andy Williams Show.

This Rosaline, again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKmpsf3uKI

John Savard

On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 2:24:54 PM UTC-6, William Hyde wrote:
> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 1:46:44 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tr_L31StI
> >
> > The one above is "If You Could Read My Mind", by Gordon
> > Lightfoot.

> Heard it endlessly. Could recite lyrics from memory.

It was indeed very popular, even internationally.

Here's a cover version by Hector,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSR0moEb46c

in the native language of his own country, with the title "Jos Lukisit Kuin Kirjaa".

John Savard

On 2021-10-31 2:24 p.m., William Hyde wrote:
> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 1:46:44 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>> In my youth, I remember often hearing this particular song...
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKmpsf3uKI
>>
>> but it has only now shown up on YouTube. (It could
>> previously be heard as part of a video of a live performance
>> by many different artists that went on for several hours.)
>>
>> The song to which the link is given above is "Rosaline",
>> sung by Russ Thornberry. Now going more formally as
>> Russell Thornberry, he is indeed the same fellow from
>> Texas who lived in Canada for a while, and now has a
>> cable TV show about hunting.
>>
>> Why, that song was almost as popular in Canada
>
> Never heard it. Nobody here has heard of it.

I remembered it when I heard it, but I don't find it very interesting.
"This girl is really pretty" songs don't do much for me.

On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 9:45:46 PM UTC-5, David Johnston wrote:
> On 2021-10-31 2:24 p.m., William Hyde wrote:
> > On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 1:46:44 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> >> In my youth, I remember often hearing this particular song...
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKmpsf3uKI
> >>
> >> but it has only now shown up on YouTube. (It could
> >> previously be heard as part of a video of a live performance
> >> by many different artists that went on for several hours.)
> >>
> >> The song to which the link is given above is "Rosaline",
> >> sung by Russ Thornberry. Now going more formally as
> >> Russell Thornberry, he is indeed the same fellow from
> >> Texas who lived in Canada for a while, and now has a
> >> cable TV show about hunting.
> >>
> >> Why, that song was almost as popular in Canada
> >
> > Never heard it. Nobody here has heard of it.
> I remembered it when I heard it, but I don't find it very interesting.
> "This girl is really pretty" songs don't do much for me.

I think of "Roisin Dubh" when I hear the name "Rosaline ."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3is%C3%ADn_Dubh_(song)

--
Kevin R

On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 7:45:46 PM UTC-7, David Johnston wrote:

> I remembered it when I heard it, but I don't find it very interesting.
> "This girl is really pretty" songs don't do much for me.

Odd, that's not how I would characterize that song.

Instead, to me it's like Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne"; that is, it seems to be
a "this girl is really mysterious" kind of song.

John Savard

On Monday, November 1, 2021 at 12:05:57 PM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <ds00oglj0apcht86f...@4ax.com>,
> Paul S Person <pspe...@ix.netcom.invalid> wrote:
> >On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 17:03:44 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> ><jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 2:24:54 PM UTC-6, William Hyde wrote:
> >>
> >>> Heard it endlessly. Could recite lyrics from memory.
> >>
> >>Well, for some reason, at least for a while, I heard Rosaline
> >>almost as endlessly as, at another time, I heard If You Could
> >>Read My Mind.
> >
> >If it was on the Radio, then the reason is simple:
> >
> >it attracted listeners, which sold commercial time to advertisers.
> Unless it was on the CBC, which didn't have ads.
>
> --

Canadian radio did have the Canadian Content rules from the
CRTC: Canadian Radio-Television Commission. I can remember
pulling in CKLW, Windsor on my pocket transistor after sundown -
the atmospheric condition , not the Lightfoot song. The "Big 8"
broke Alice Cooper ("18," produced by Canuck Bob Ezrin.)
CKLW played an awful lot of "The Guess Who, which I didn't mind.

--
Kevin R

On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 12:48:19 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 7:45:46 PM UTC-7, David Johnston wrote:
>
> > I remembered it when I heard it, but I don't find it very interesting.
> > "This girl is really pretty" songs don't do much for me.
> Odd, that's not how I would characterize that song.
>
> Instead, to me it's like Leonard Cohen's "Suzanne"; that is, it seems to be
> a "this girl is really mysterious" kind of song.

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