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* Brahms PC1 Conrad Hansen + Ferenc FricsayDeepBlue
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Subject: Brahms PC1 Conrad Hansen + Ferenc Fricsay
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 by: DeepBlue - Tue, 16 Apr 2024 06:38 UTC

Conrad Hansen, Ferenc Fricsay
RIAS Symphony Orchestra Berlin 1953:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjXdjpJpnI

One of the finest readings.

Enjoy!

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Subject: Re: Brahms PC1 Conrad Hansen + Ferenc Fricsay
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 by: howard - Tue, 16 Apr 2024 14:10 UTC

DeepBlue wrote:

> Conrad Hansen, Ferenc Fricsay
> RIAS Symphony Orchestra Berlin 1953:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjXdjpJpnI

> One of the finest readings.

> Enjoy!

Nothing against the conducting by Free Choi, but Hansen sounds wimpy here without Furtwangler bringing out his best.

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Subject: Re: Brahms PC1 Conrad Hansen + Ferenc Fricsay
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 by: DeepBlue - Tue, 16 Apr 2024 22:27 UTC

howard wrote:
>
> DeepBlue wrote:
>
>> Conrad Hansen, Ferenc Fricsay
>> RIAS Symphony Orchestra Berlin 1953:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjXdjpJpnI
>> One of the finest readings.
>
> Nothing against the conducting by
> Free Choi, but Hansen sounds wimpy
> here without Furtwangler bringing
> out his best.

It is a more introspective reading
than the prevailing fiery approach,
which is one of the reasons I like
it.

Furty always sounds like a Wehrmacht
Panzer division charging.

Ciao!

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 by: howard - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 03:12 UTC

DeepBlue wrote:

> howard wrote:
>>
>> DeepBlue wrote:
>>
>>> Conrad Hansen, Ferenc Fricsay
>>> RIAS Symphony Orchestra Berlin 1953:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjXdjpJpnI
>>> One of the finest readings.
>>
>> Nothing against the conducting by
>> Free Choi, but Hansen sounds wimpy
>> here without Furtwangler bringing
>> out his best.

> It is a more introspective reading
> than the prevailing fiery approach,
> which is one of the reasons I like
> it.

> Furty always sounds like a Wehrmacht
> Panzer division charging.

> Ciao!

Imagine what the current version of Pletnev would do with it!

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 by: DeepBlue - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 04:02 UTC

howard wrote:
>
> DeepBlue wrote:
>
>> howard wrote:
>>>
>>> DeepBlue wrote:
>>>
>>>> Conrad Hansen, Ferenc Fricsay
>>>> RIAS Symphony Orchestra Berlin 1953:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjXdjpJpnI
>>>> One of the finest readings.
>>>
>>> Nothing against the conducting by
>>> Free Choi, but Hansen sounds wimpy
>>> here without Furtwangler bringing
>>> out his best.
>>
>> It is a more introspective reading
>> than the prevailing fiery approach,
>> which is one of the reasons I like
>> it.
>>
>> Furty always sounds like a Wehrmacht
>> Panzer division charging.
>
> Imagine what the current version of
> Pletnev would do with it!

As a pianist or as a conductor?

Put us all to sleep?

Ciao!

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 by: howard - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 05:30 UTC

DeepBlue wrote:

> howard wrote:
>>
>> DeepBlue wrote:
>>
>>> howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> DeepBlue wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Conrad Hansen, Ferenc Fricsay
>>>>> RIAS Symphony Orchestra Berlin 1953:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvjXdjpJpnI
>>>>> One of the finest readings.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing against the conducting by
>>>> Free Choi, but Hansen sounds wimpy
>>>> here without Furtwangler bringing
>>>> out his best.
>>>
>>> It is a more introspective reading
>>> than the prevailing fiery approach,
>>> which is one of the reasons I like
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Furty always sounds like a Wehrmacht
>>> Panzer division charging.
>>
>> Imagine what the current version of
>> Pletnev would do with it!

> As a pianist or as a conductor?

> Put us all to sleep?

> Ciao!

Pianist. Indeed. I can't believe what's happened to him. It's not age, because he still has the technical chops. At his peak in the late 90s, early 00s, he was an all-timer.

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 by: DeepBlue - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 07:42 UTC

howard wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Imagine what the current version of
>>> Pletnev would do with it!
>>
>> As a pianist or as a conductor?
>> Put us all to sleep?
>
> Pianist. Indeed. I can't believe
> what's happened to him. It's not
> age,

It is, though not in an abvious way.

> because he still has the technical
> chops.

It's the brain, not the fingers or
the muscles. The fish rots from the
head.

Ciao!

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 by: JudeoN4zi - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:01 UTC

DeepBlue wrote:

> howard wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Imagine what the current version of
>>>> Pletnev would do with it!
>>>
>>> As a pianist or as a conductor?
>>> Put us all to sleep?
>>
>> Pianist. Indeed. I can't believe
>> what's happened to him. It's not
>> age,

> It is, though not in an abvious way.

>> because he still has the technical
>> chops.

> It's the brain, not the fingers or
> the muscles. The fish rots from the
> head.

It certainly is the brain, but not in the way you're thinking - his decline in taste is not related to his age. Plenty of young folks love his new style; just take a look at the comments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBvuVDyD3ug

> Ciao!

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