The Doctor wrote on 20/03/2022 11:02 pm:
> In article <82767802-18b5-4a99-8b19-b2b57c8a1655n@googlegroups.com>,
> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbrueni264@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 7:35:51 AM UTC-8, netk...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>> In article <so24ms$8s7$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
>>> <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:

<Snip>

>>>> Why would anyone assume that Aggy knows what he’s doing?
>>>>
>>> WEll then when did Web of Fear take place?
>>
>> 5th season.
>
> Try around 1969!!

And 'Doctor Who' started in 1963, so the season that showed in 1969
would have been the Sixth or, maybe, Seventh Season, clown, ..... so
about the 5th Season, clown!!

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

The Doctor wrote on 21/4/22 12:36 am:
> In article <t3p0i4$h08$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 20/03/2022 11:02 pm:
>>> In article <82767802-18b5-4a99-8b19-b2b57c8a1655n@googlegroups.com>,
>>> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbrueni264@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 7:35:51 AM UTC-8, netk...@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> In article <so24ms$8s7$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
>>>>> <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>>>> Why would anyone assume that Aggy knows what he’s doing?
>>>>>>
>>>>> WEll then when did Web of Fear take place?
>>>>
>>>> 5th season.
>>>
>>> Try around 1969!!
>>
>> And 'Doctor Who' started in 1963, so the season that showed in 1969
>> would have been the Sixth or, maybe, Seventh Season, clown, ..... so
>> about the 5th Season, clown!!

> The inconsistency under chibnall is there, Dannyboy!

Which has WHAT TO DO WITH WHEN 'WEB OF FEAR' took place, clown??

But, still, it's a post so added to your Precious Post Count, clown!!

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t3sh1r$1cnl$5@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>
> It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.

Liar. It is not beleive.

And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979. Apart from when
it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975). Victoria says they met Travers in
1935 which was "over 40 years ago" according to Web of Fear. So Web of Fear
was NOT 1969.

Shows what you know, Yads...

The Other Doctor wrote:
>
> "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> news:t3sh1r$1cnl$5@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> >
> > It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.
>
> Liar. It is not beleive.
>
> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979. Apart
> from when it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975). Victoria says
> they met Travers in 1935 which was "over 40 years ago" according to
> Web of Fear. So Web of Fear was NOT 1969.
>
> Shows what you know, Yads...

Dave doesn't actually know much about Doctor Who, he has proven that
here countless times.

The Doctor wrote on 22/4/22 7:07 am:
> In article <t3rggg$nur$7@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 21/4/22 12:36 am:
>>> In article <t3p0i4$h08$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 20/03/2022 11:02 pm:
>>>>> In article <82767802-18b5-4a99-8b19-b2b57c8a1655n@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbrueni264@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, November 29, 2021 at 7:35:51 AM UTC-8, netk...@gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <so24ms$8s7$1...@dont-email.me>, solar penguin
>>>>>>> <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <Snip>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why would anyone assume that Aggy knows what he’s doing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WEll then when did Web of Fear take place?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5th season.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try around 1969!!
>>>>
>>>> And 'Doctor Who' started in 1963, so the season that showed in 1969
>>>> would have been the Sixth or, maybe, Seventh Season, clown, ..... so
>>>> about the 5th Season, clown!!
>>
>>
>>> The inconsistency under chibnall is there, Dannyboy!
>>
>> Which has WHAT TO DO WITH WHEN 'WEB OF FEAR' took place, clown??
>>
>> But, still, it's a post so added to your Precious Post Count, clown!!

> It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.

I don't know WHAT YOU, clown, believe, clown, but it was stated, way up
at the top of this post, that 'Web of Fear' was in 1969 ..... and NOBODY
until YOU, clown (so that's still a 'NOBODY'), has mentioned 'The
Invasion' until YOU, clown, did just then!!

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

Binky bleated:

> In article <t3tskt$4ld$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>> news:t3sh1r$1cnl$5@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>
>>> It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.
>>
>> Liar. It is not beleive.
>>
>> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979. Apart from when
>> it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975). Victoria says they met Travers in
>> 1935 which was "over 40 years ago" according to Web of Fear. So Web of Fear
>> was NOT 1969.
>>
>> Shows what you know, Yads...
>>
>>
>
> Spearhead From Space - 1977!
>
> SJSmith is from 1980 according to Pyraminds of MArs!

Then “Pryaminds of MArs” (sic) must be wrong. Problem solved.

--
solar penguin

The Doctor wrote:
> In article <xn0ngx5h575axv9004@nntp.aioe.org>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > The Other Doctor wrote:
> >>
> >> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979. Apart
> >> from when it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975). Victoria says
> >> they met Travers in 1935 which was "over 40 years ago" according to
> >> Web of Fear. So Web of Fear was NOT 1969.
> >>
> >> Shows what you know, Yads...
> >
> > Dave doesn't actually know much about Doctor Who, he has proven that
> > here countless times.
>
> Do either of you have DWM from the 1980s?

I might have a few in a box somewhere... I deffo have some tatty TV
Comic/Countdowns from the 70's and a few copies of DWB from the late
80's.

Your point being what? You own some old "Doctor Who Weekly/Monthly"
magazines so it makes you an expert on Doctor Who? Well, you own a KJV
Bible but you still don't understand much about what's in it, or what
it really means to be a Christian.

solar penguin wrote:

>
> Binky bleated:
>
> > In article <t3tskt$4ld$1@dont-email.me>,
> > The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:t3sh1r$1cnl$5@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> >>>
> >>> It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.
> >>
> >> Liar. It is not beleive.
> >>
> >> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979.
> >> Apart from when it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975).
> >> Victoria says they met Travers in 1935 which was "over 40 years
> >> ago" according to Web of Fear. So Web of Fear was NOT 1969.
> >>
> >> Shows what you know, Yads...
> >
> > Spearhead From Space - 1977!
> >
> > SJSmith is from 1980 according to Pyraminds of MArs!
>
> Then “Pryaminds of MArs” (sic) must be wrong. Problem solved.

Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to revisit that
specialist fandom subject commonly known as the "UNIT dating
controversy"...

So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn Undead"? ;-)

Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> solar penguin wrote:
>
>>
>> Binky bleated:
>>
>>> In article <t3tskt$4ld$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:t3sh1r$1cnl$5@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>> It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.
>>>>
>>>> Liar. It is not beleive.
>>>>
>>>> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979.
>>>> Apart from when it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975).
>>>> Victoria says they met Travers in 1935 which was "over 40 years
>>>> ago" according to Web of Fear. So Web of Fear was NOT 1969.
>>>>
>>>> Shows what you know, Yads...
>>>
>>> Spearhead From Space - 1977!
>>>
>>> SJSmith is from 1980 according to Pyraminds of MArs!
>>
>> Then “Pryaminds of MArs” (sic) must be wrong. Problem solved.
>
> Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to revisit that
> specialist fandom subject commonly known as the "UNIT dating
> controversy"...
>
> So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn Undead"? ;-)
>
>

“Pyramids of Mars” takes place after “Terror of the Zygons” which is the
last time we see the Brigadier prior to “Mawdryn Undead”.

Conveniently, “Pyramids of Mars” also features a break in timelines - the
first time the Doctor and Sarah try to return to the Earth of 1980, it
isn’t there.

So we can now imagine that the whole Universe has changed, and in
correcting for Sutekh’s plan, the Doctor has somehow altered the flow of
time so that ten whole years of history just “disappeared”. What was 1970
became 1960, etc, and the folded away years just never happened. The
Invasion happened earlier, etc, etc. So now the Brigadier’s proposed
retirement after an illustrious career in UNIT, in 1986, takes place in
1976, Sarah Jane Smith thinks she’s from 1970, and Doctor Who stories set
on modern day Earth change from being set in “the near future” to being set
mainly contemporary with broadcast dates.

So now when we ask “were the UNIT era stories set in the 70s or the 80s”,
we can now accurately, rather than merely pedantically, answer “Yes”.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

Blueshirt brought forth:

>
> Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to
> revisit that specialist fandom subject commonly known
> as the "UNIT dating controversy"...
>
> So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn
> Undead"? ;-)
>
>

Neither. Let’s start with Jo’s comment in ‘Carnival of Monsters’.
She claims to be from ‘forty years’ after 1926, putting the
UNIT era in the sixties!

(And before anyone claims that she got it wrong, ‘Claws of
Axos’ established that she’s good at simple mental arithmetic
even under stressful conditions.)

--
solar penguin

The Last Doctor wrote:
>
> “Pyramids of Mars” takes place after “Terror of the Zygons” which is
> the last time we see the Brigadier prior to “Mawdryn Undead”.
>
> Conveniently, “Pyramids of Mars” also features a break in timelines -
> the first time the Doctor and Sarah try to return to the Earth of
> 1980, it isn’t there.
>
> So we can now imagine that the whole Universe has changed, and in
> correcting for Sutekh’s plan, the Doctor has somehow altered the flow
> of time so that ten whole years of history just “disappeared”. What
> was 1970 became 1960, etc, and the folded away years just never
> happened. The Invasion happened earlier, etc, etc. So now the
> Brigadier’s proposed retirement after an illustrious career in UNIT,
> in 1986, takes place in 1976, Sarah Jane Smith thinks she’s from
> 1970, and Doctor Who stories set on modern day Earth change from
> being set in “the near future” to being set mainly contemporary with
> broadcast dates.
>
> So now when we ask “were the UNIT era stories set in the 70s or the
> 80s”, we can now accurately, rather than merely pedantically, answer
> “Yes”.

Why didn't you just say wibbly wobbly, timey wimey?!

solar penguin wrote:

> Blueshirt brought forth:
> >
> > Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to
> > revisit that specialist fandom subject commonly known
> > as the "UNIT dating controversy"...
> >
> > So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn
> > Undead"? ;-)
>
> Neither. Let’s start with Jo’s comment in ‘Carnival of Monsters’.
> She claims to be from ‘forty years’ after 1926, putting the
> UNIT era in the sixties!
IIRC the biggest problem was The Brigadier's retirement date, from
"Mawdryn Undead", not so much anything that Jo Grant said.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t40qok$m48$59@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <3dc0326a-5a33-4150-aa16-525f4b4ee9b3n@googlegroups.com>,
> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbrueni264@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 2:59:01 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> In article <xn0ngxiwi...@nntp.aioe.org>,
>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>> >solar penguin wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Binky bleated:
>>> >>
>>> >> > In article <t3tskt$4ld$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> >> > The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:t3sh1r$1cnl$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Liar. It is not beleive.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979.
>>> >> >> Apart from when it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975).
>>> >> >> Victoria says they met Travers in 1935 which was "over 40 years
>>> >> >> ago" according to Web of Fear. So Web of Fear was NOT 1969.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Shows what you know, Yads...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Spearhead From Space - 1977!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > SJSmith is from 1980 according to Pyraminds of MArs!
>>> >>
>>> >> Then �?oPryaminds of MArs�?� (sic) must be wrong. Problem solved.
>>> >
>>> >Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to revisit that
>>> >specialist fandom subject commonly known as the "UNIT dating
>>> >controversy"...
>>> >
>>> >So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn Undead"? ;-)
>>> >
>>> Both!
>>>
>>> Maydryn Undead was suppose to feature Ian originally.
>>
>>Why did that change?
>
> Some strange availability issue IIRC.

No, Yads. It was never called Maydryn Undead. And it was not "suppose" to
feature Ian.

The story was called "Mawdryn Undead". The part was originally written for
Ian, but William Russell had stage commitments. Which isn't even a little
bit strange. They tried to get Ian Marter next, but finally settled on
Nicholas Courtney.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t40okv$m48$6@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <t4025v$6ev$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Blueshirt brought forth:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to
>>> revisit that specialist fandom subject commonly known
>>> as the "UNIT dating controversy"...
>>>
>>> So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn
>>> Undead"? ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Neither. Let�?Ts start with Jo�?Ts comment in �?~Carnival of Monsters�?T.
>>She claims to be from �?~forty years�?T after 1926, putting the
>>UNIT era in the sixties!
>>
>>(And before anyone claims that she got it wrong, �?~Claws of
>>Axos�?T established that she�?Ts good at simple mental arithmetic
>>even under stressful conditions.)
>>
>
> I still prefer the Pyrmids of MArs pivot.

There was no story called "Pyrmids of MArs." There is a story called
"Pyramids of Mars." I've no idea what pivot you're talking about though.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t40ojl$m48$5@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <03a7be8d-c41b-495f-8775-6a570f96272an@googlegroups.com>,
> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 1:15:45 PM UTC-7, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> solar penguin wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Binky bleated:
>>> >
>>> > > In article <t3tskt$4ld$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> > > The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>> > >> news:t3sh1r$1cnl$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Liar. It is not beleive.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979.
>>> > >> Apart from when it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975).
>>> > >> Victoria says they met Travers in 1935 which was "over 40 years
>>> > >> ago" according to Web of Fear. So Web of Fear was NOT 1969.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Shows what you know, Yads...
>>> > >
>>> > > Spearhead From Space - 1977!
>>> > >
>>> > > SJSmith is from 1980 according to Pyraminds of MArs!
>>> >
>>> > Then �?oPryaminds of MArs�?� (sic) must be wrong. Problem solved.
>>> Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to revisit that
>>> specialist fandom subject commonly known as the "UNIT dating
>>> controversy"...
>>
>>How do you KNOW that all the Bible talk is done?
>
> Well linearising events ..

"Linearising events" shows that you're an idiot, Yads.

"Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote in message
news:t3v1ih$kad$1@dont-email.me...
> The Doctor wrote:
>> In article <xn0ngx5h575axv9004@nntp.aioe.org>,
>> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> > The Other Doctor wrote:
>> >>
>> >> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979. Apart
>> >> from when it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975). Victoria says
>> >> they met Travers in 1935 which was "over 40 years ago" according to
>> >> Web of Fear. So Web of Fear was NOT 1969.
>> >>
>> >> Shows what you know, Yads...
>> >
>> > Dave doesn't actually know much about Doctor Who, he has proven that
>> > here countless times.
>>
>> Do either of you have DWM from the 1980s?
>
> I might have a few in a box somewhere... I deffo have some tatty TV
> Comic/Countdowns from the 70's and a few copies of DWB from the late
> 80's.

I've got copies of DWW fom the 1979 and 1980, DWM from the 1980s, 1990s,
2000s, 2010s and 2020s. I've also got a few copies of TV Comic and DWB.

> Your point being what? You own some old "Doctor Who Weekly/Monthly"
> magazines so it makes you an expert on Doctor Who? Well, you own a KJV
> Bible but you still don't understand much about what's in it, or what
> it really means to be a Christian.

I don't think Yads has a point. I don't think Yads has ever had a point.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t41g1i$tv8$12@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <t41006$mt7$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:t40okv$m48$6@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>> In article <t4025v$6ev$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Blueshirt brought forth:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to
>>>>> revisit that specialist fandom subject commonly known
>>>>> as the "UNIT dating controversy"...
>>>>>
>>>>> So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn
>>>>> Undead"? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Neither. Let�?Ts start with Jo�?Ts comment in �?~Carnival of
>>>>Monsters�?T.
>>>>She claims to be from �?~forty years�?T after 1926, putting the
>>>>UNIT era in the sixties!
>>>>
>>>>(And before anyone claims that she got it wrong, �?~Claws of
>>>>Axos�?T established that she�?Ts good at simple mental arithmetic
>>>>even under stressful conditions.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I still prefer the Pyrmids of MArs pivot.
>>
>>There was no story called "Pyrmids of MArs." There is a story called
>>"Pyramids of Mars." I've no idea what pivot you're talking about though.
>
> From http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/13-3.htm

<snip irrelevant copy and paste>

Yes, Yads. I've seen Pyramids of Mars. And I've no idea what pivot you're
talking about.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t41fsn$tv8$9@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <t40vf9$iog$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:t40qok$m48$59@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>> In article <3dc0326a-5a33-4150-aa16-525f4b4ee9b3n@googlegroups.com>,
>>> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbrueni264@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 2:59:01 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> In article <xn0ngxiwi...@nntp.aioe.org>,
>>>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>> >solar penguin wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Binky bleated:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > In article <t3tskt$4ld$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> >> > The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> >> >> news:t3sh1r$1cnl$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>> >> >>> It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Liar. It is not beleive.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979.
>>>>> >> >> Apart from when it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975).
>>>>> >> >> Victoria says they met Travers in 1935 which was "over 40 years
>>>>> >> >> ago" according to Web of Fear. So Web of Fear was NOT 1969.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Shows what you know, Yads...
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Spearhead From Space - 1977!
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > SJSmith is from 1980 according to Pyraminds of MArs!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Then �?oPryaminds of MArs�?� (sic) must be wrong. Problem solved.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to revisit that
>>>>> >specialist fandom subject commonly known as the "UNIT dating
>>>>> >controversy"...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn Undead"? ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> Both!
>>>>>
>>>>> Maydryn Undead was suppose to feature Ian originally.
>>>>
>>>>Why did that change?
>>>
>>> Some strange availability issue IIRC.
>>
>>No, Yads. It was never called Maydryn Undead. And it was not "suppose" to
>>feature Ian.
>>
>>The story was called "Mawdryn Undead". The part was originally written for
>>Ian, but William Russell had stage commitments. Which isn't even a little
>>bit strange. They tried to get Ian Marter next, but finally settled on
>>Nicholas Courtney.
>>
>>
>
> So Ian, the Harry until is was the Brigadier.

So Barbara, the Susan until is was Tegan.

> I doubt Wilson would qualify for A-levels mathematics.

I doubt Wilson knows what you're gibbering on about.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t41hp5$19li$2@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <t41hdc$4nc$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:t41fsn$tv8$9@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>> In article <t40vf9$iog$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:t40qok$m48$59@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>> In article <3dc0326a-5a33-4150-aa16-525f4b4ee9b3n@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> tsbru...@gmail.com <tsbrueni264@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On Friday, April 22, 2022 at 2:59:01 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <xn0ngxiwi...@nntp.aioe.org>,
>>>>>>> Blueshirt <blue...@indigo.news> wrote:
>>>>>>> >solar penguin wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Binky bleated:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> > In article <t3tskt$4ld$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> >> > The Other Doctor <stephen.wils...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> "The Doctor" <doc...@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> >> news:t3sh1r$1cnl$5...@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>>> >> >>> It is beleive - Web of Fear 1969, The Invasion 1973.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Liar. It is not beleive.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> And your dates are incorrect. The Invasion was around 1979.
>>>>>>> >> >> Apart from when it was 1975 (the radio Times stated 1975).
>>>>>>> >> >> Victoria says they met Travers in 1935 which was "over 40
>>>>>>> >> >> years
>>>>>>> >> >> ago" according to Web of Fear. So Web of Fear was NOT 1969.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> Shows what you know, Yads...
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Spearhead From Space - 1977!
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > SJSmith is from 1980 according to Pyraminds of MArs!
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Then �?oPryaminds of MArs�?� (sic) must be wrong. Problem solved.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to revisit that
>>>>>>> >specialist fandom subject commonly known as the "UNIT dating
>>>>>>> >controversy"...
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn Undead"? ;-)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Both!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maydryn Undead was suppose to feature Ian originally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why did that change?
>>>>>
>>>>> Some strange availability issue IIRC.
>>>>
>>>>No, Yads. It was never called Maydryn Undead. And it was not "suppose"
>>>>to
>>>>feature Ian.
>>>>
>>>>The story was called "Mawdryn Undead". The part was originally written
>>>>for
>>>>Ian, but William Russell had stage commitments. Which isn't even a
>>>>little
>>>>bit strange. They tried to get Ian Marter next, but finally settled on
>>>>Nicholas Courtney.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> So Ian, the Harry until is was the Brigadier.
>>
>>So Barbara, the Susan until is was Tegan.
>>
>>> I doubt Wilson would qualify for A-levels mathematics.
>>
>>I doubt Wilson knows what you're gibbering on about.
>>
>>
>
> In a dictionary, when looking up dishonest, you
> see a picture of Stephen Wilson.

Liar.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t41han$tv8$58@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <t41h97$3js$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:t41g1i$tv8$12@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>> In article <t41006$mt7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:t40okv$m48$6@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>> In article <t4025v$6ev$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Blueshirt brought forth:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now that all the Bible talk is done maybe it's time to
>>>>>>> revisit that specialist fandom subject commonly known
>>>>>>> as the "UNIT dating controversy"...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, do we start with Sarah-Jane's comments or "Mawdryn
>>>>>>> Undead"? ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Neither. Let�?Ts start with Jo�?Ts comment in �?~Carnival of
>>>>>>Monsters�?T.
>>>>>>She claims to be from �?~forty years�?T after 1926, putting the
>>>>>>UNIT era in the sixties!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(And before anyone claims that she got it wrong, �?~Claws of
>>>>>>Axos�?T established that she�?Ts good at simple mental arithmetic
>>>>>>even under stressful conditions.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I still prefer the Pyrmids of MArs pivot.
>>>>
>>>>There was no story called "Pyrmids of MArs." There is a story called
>>>>"Pyramids of Mars." I've no idea what pivot you're talking about though.
>>>
>>> From http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/13-3.htm
>>
>><snip irrelevant copy and paste>
>>
>>Yes, Yads. I've seen Pyramids of Mars. And I've no idea what pivot you're
>>talking about.
>>
>>
>
> http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/13-3.htm

<snip irrelevant copy and paste>

>
> That pivot.

I've no idea what pivot you're talking about, Yads. Do you even know what a
pivot is?

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <t41h97$3js$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>> news:t41g1i$tv8$12@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>> In article <t41006$mt7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:t40okv$m48$6@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>
>>>>> I still prefer the Pyrmids of MArs pivot.
>>>>
>>>> There was no story called "Pyrmids of MArs." There is a story called
>>>> "Pyramids of Mars." I've no idea what pivot you're talking about though.
>>>
>>> From http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/13-3.htm
>>
>> <snip irrelevant copy and paste>
>>
>> Yes, Yads. I've seen Pyramids of Mars. And I've no idea what pivot you're
>> talking about.
>>
>>
>
> http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/13-3.htm
>
> [Tardis]
>
> LAURENCE: Great heavens! This is unbelievable. Totally unbelievable!
> DOCTOR: You're going to say it transcends all the normal laws of physics.
> LAURENCE: I am, yes. I mean, it does. It's preposterous!
> DOCTOR: Isn't it. I often think dimensional transcendentalism is
> preposterous, but it works. Would you like to look around?
> LAURENCE: May I?
> DOCTOR: Please.
> SARAH: Well now we are here, why don't you tune up 1980 and we can, well, leave.
> DOCTOR: I can't.
> SARAH: Ah. Why can't you?
> DOCTOR: Because if Sutekh isn't stopped, he'll destroy the world.
> SARAH: But he didn't, did he. I mean, we know the world didn't end in 1911.
> DOCTOR: Do we?
> SARAH: Yes, of course we do!
> DOCTOR: All right. If we leave now, let's see what the world will look like in 1980.
> (The Doctor works the console.)
> LAURENCE: I say, this is like something by that novelist chap, Mister Wells.
> (The Tardis lands, and the doors open to show a bleak, rocky landscape
> with howling winds and an electrical storm.)
> DOCTOR: 1980, Sarah, if you want to get off.
> (Sarah doesn't, and the doors close.)
> SARAH: It's a trick!
> DOCTOR: No. That's the world as Sutekh would leave it. A desolate planet
> circling a dead sun.
> SARAH: It can't be! I'm from 1980.
> DOCTOR: Every point in time has its alternative, Sarah. You've looked
> into alternative time.
> LAURENCE: Fascinating. Do you mean the future can be chosen, Doctor?
> DOCTOR: Not chosen, shaped. The actions of the present fashion the future.
> LAURENCE: So a man can change the course of history?
> DOCTOR: To a small extent. It takes a being of Sutekh's almost limitless
> power to destroy the future. Well?
> SARAH: We've got to go back.
> DOCTOR: Yes.
> (Out in the woods, an exhausted Clements is hiding behind a tree
> catching his breath, while two mummies stand looking around. He makes a
> break for it, and they lumber after him. Further on, he falls, and they
> catch up to him. Meanwhile, Laurence and Sarah have climbed out of the storeroom window.)
> DOCTOR: Keep below the level of the window.
> (They leave, then the Doctor climbs out.)
>
>
> That pivot.

Liar! The word ‘pivot’ doesn’t even appear anywhere in
that passage.

--
solar penguin

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
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>>
>>I've no idea what pivot you're talking about, Yads. Do you even know what
>>a
>>pivot is?
>
> Quit and cut-and-lie and you would know whether you
> want The Pyramids of MArs version or The Maydryn Undead version.

Quit and cut-and-lie? The Pyramids of MArs version? The Maydryn Undead
version? Version of what?. I still don't know what your pivot is. I haven't
got a clue what you're waffling on about, Yads.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t421e7$6so$5@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>
>>> In a dictionary, when looking up dishonest, you
>>> see a picture of Stephen Wilson.
>>
>>Liar.
>>
>>
>
> SW hates truth!

Liar.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
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> In article <t436js$34i$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>news:t421h1$6so$7@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>
>>>>I've no idea what pivot you're talking about, Yads. Do you even know
>>>>what
>>>>a
>>>>pivot is?
>>>
>>> Quit and cut-and-lie and you would know whether you
>>> want The Pyramids of MArs version or The Maydryn Undead version.
>>
>>Quit and cut-and-lie? The Pyramids of MArs version? The Maydryn Undead
>>version? Version of what?. I still don't know what your pivot is. I
>>haven't
>>got a clue what you're waffling on about, Yads.
>>
>>
>
> Typical clueless SW!
>
> Too much cut-and-lie for Wilson!

I haven't got a clue what you're waffling on about, Yads.

"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:t43du3$8km$37@gallifrey.nk.ca...
> In article <t42kdd$d45$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <t41h97$3js$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:t41g1i$tv8$12@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>> In article <t41006$mt7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> The Other Doctor <stephen.wilson2004nospam@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:t40okv$m48$6@gallifrey.nk.ca...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still prefer the Pyrmids of MArs pivot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was no story called "Pyrmids of MArs." There is a story called
>>>>>> "Pyramids of Mars." I've no idea what pivot you're talking about
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>> From http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/13-3.htm
>>>>
>>>> <snip irrelevant copy and paste>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Yads. I've seen Pyramids of Mars. And I've no idea what pivot
>>>> you're
>>>> talking about.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.chakoteya.net/DoctorWho/13-3.htm
>>>
<snip irrelevant copy and paste>

> SJSmith is from 1980 as above.

Liar! SJSmith was not from 1980 in 1981. She wasn't from 1980 in 1995. She
wasn't from 1980 in 1975.

> What happened to Maydrwn Undead? Such are pivots.

I think you mean Mawdryn Undead. Sarah wasn't even in Mawdryn Undead. If she
had been, she wouldn't have been from 1980. And I have no idea what you
think a pivot is.