What is the maximum *realistic* amount of European settler colonialism that can be done during the 20th century? The PoD here is 1900 or later. This settler colonialism would have to be done by people of European descent, and Yes, this would include Ashkenazi Jews here since to my knowledge, by their ancestry, Ashkenazi Jews are about half Italian (with the other half being Middle Eastern).

On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com>
wrote:

>What is the maximum *realistic* amount of European settler colonialism that can be done during the 20th century? The PoD here is 1900 or later. This settler colonialism would have to be done by people of European descent, and Yes, this would include Ashkenazi Jews here since to my knowledge, by their ancestry, Ashkenazi Jews are about half Italian (with the other half being Middle Eastern).

Would this include American Jews emigrating to Israel? Presumably you
would NOT include American Afro-Americans (many of whom DO have white
European ancestors) going to Africa in some kind of pan-African
movement.

On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 2:46:44 PM UTC-7, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4j...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >What is the maximum *realistic* amount of European settler colonialism that can be done during the 20th century? The PoD here is 1900 or later. This settler colonialism would have to be done by people of European descent, and Yes, this would include Ashkenazi Jews here since to my knowledge, by their ancestry, Ashkenazi Jews are about half Italian (with the other half being Middle Eastern).
> Would this include American Jews emigrating to Israel?

Yes, because they're originally of sizable European descent.

> Presumably you
> would NOT include American Afro-Americans (many of whom DO have white
> European ancestors) going to Africa in some kind of pan-African
> movement.

Depends on just how much white ancestry they have. Are we talking something like half-white or more here?

On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear wrote:

> What is the maximum *realistic* amount of European settler colonialism that can be done during the 20th century? The PoD here is 1900 or later. This settler colonialism would have to be done by people of European descent, and Yes, this would include Ashkenazi Jews here since to my knowledge, by their ancestry, Ashkenazi Jews are about half Italian (with the other half being Middle Eastern).

If Hitler had succeeded, there would have been a lot of European settler
colonialism of Europeans.

On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 15:57:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4josh@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> Presumably you=20
>> would NOT include American Afro-Americans (many of whom DO have white=20
>> European ancestors) going to Africa in some kind of pan-African=20
>> movement.
>
>Depends on just how much white ancestry they have. Are we talking something=
> like half-white or more here?

I dunno - would Meghan Markle count? (who HAS gone to Europe) vs
Barack Obama (who hasn't)

On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 12:46:55 +1000, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear wrote:
>
>> What is the maximum *realistic* amount of European settler colonialism that can be done during the 20th century? The PoD here is 1900 or later. This settler colonialism would have to be done by people of European descent, and Yes, this would include Ashkenazi Jews here since to my knowledge, by their ancestry, Ashkenazi Jews are about half Italian (with the other half being Middle Eastern).
>
>If Hitler had succeeded, there would have been a lot of European settler
>colonialism of Europeans.

Sorry I don't consider "colonialism" in the form of one way trips to
death camps meeting Wolfbear's challenge.....

I presume you're talking about Hitler's plans for German settlements
in Russia which probably counts since while it's from Europe to Europe
would definitely be one way. (Never mind the millions of dead Russian
civilians required to "achieve" this)

On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 8:02:20 PM UTC-7, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 12:46:55 +1000, SolomonW <Solo...@citi.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear wrote:
> >
> >> What is the maximum *realistic* amount of European settler colonialism that can be done during the 20th century? The PoD here is 1900 or later. This settler colonialism would have to be done by people of European descent, and Yes, this would include Ashkenazi Jews here since to my knowledge, by their ancestry, Ashkenazi Jews are about half Italian (with the other half being Middle Eastern).
> >
> >If Hitler had succeeded, there would have been a lot of European settler
> >colonialism of Europeans.
> Sorry I don't consider "colonialism" in the form of one way trips to
> death camps meeting Wolfbear's challenge.....
>
> I presume you're talking about Hitler's plans for German settlements
> in Russia which probably counts since while it's from Europe to Europe
> would definitely be one way. (Never mind the millions of dead Russian
> civilians required to "achieve" this)

This would be European settler colonialism AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER EUROPEANS, which I want to avoid at all costs here.

On Sunday, 4 July 2021 at 03:59:41 UTC+1, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 15:57:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4j...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Presumably you=20
> >> would NOT include American Afro-Americans (many of whom DO have white=20
> >> European ancestors) going to Africa in some kind of pan-African=20
> >> movement.
> >
> >Depends on just how much white ancestry they have. Are we talking something=
> > like half-white or more here?
> I dunno - would Meghan Markle count? (who HAS gone to Europe)
>
And returned.

On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 7:06:46 AM UTC-7, Graham Truesdale wrote:
> On Sunday, 4 July 2021 at 03:59:41 UTC+1, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 15:57:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4j...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >> Presumably you=20
> > >> would NOT include American Afro-Americans (many of whom DO have white=20
> > >> European ancestors) going to Africa in some kind of pan-African=20
> > >> movement.
> > >
> > >Depends on just how much white ancestry they have. Are we talking something=
> > > like half-white or more here?
> > I dunno - would Meghan Markle count? (who HAS gone to Europe)
> >
> And returned.

After complaining of British racism, I'm presuming?

On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 6:18:55 PM UTC+1, WolfBear wrote:
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 7:06:46 AM UTC-7, Graham Truesdale wrote:
> > On Sunday, 4 July 2021 at 03:59:41 UTC+1, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > > On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 15:57:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4j...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Presumably you=20
> > > >> would NOT include American Afro-Americans (many of whom DO have white=20
> > > >> European ancestors) going to Africa in some kind of pan-African=20
> > > >> movement.
> > > >
> > > >Depends on just how much white ancestry they have. Are we talking something=
> > > > like half-white or more here?
> > > I dunno - would Meghan Markle count? (who HAS gone to Europe)
> > >
> > And returned.
> After complaining of British racism, I'm presuming?
>
"Recollections may vary"

On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 3:03:44 PM UTC-7, Graham Truesdale wrote:
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 6:18:55 PM UTC+1, WolfBear wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 7:06:46 AM UTC-7, Graham Truesdale wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 4 July 2021 at 03:59:41 UTC+1, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 15:57:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear <m4j...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> Presumably you=20
> > > > >> would NOT include American Afro-Americans (many of whom DO have white=20
> > > > >> European ancestors) going to Africa in some kind of pan-African=20
> > > > >> movement.
> > > > >
> > > > >Depends on just how much white ancestry they have. Are we talking something=
> > > > > like half-white or more here?
> > > > I dunno - would Meghan Markle count? (who HAS gone to Europe)
> > > >
> > > And returned.
> > After complaining of British racism, I'm presuming?
> >
> "Recollections may vary"

Depending on one's complexion! ;)

On 7/3/21 4:46 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> Would this include American Jews emigrating to Israel?

They are nearly all Ashkenazim.

--
Nous sommes dans une pot de chambre, et nous y serons emmerdés.
--- General Auguste-Alexandre Ducrot at Sedan, 1870.

On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 7:00:09 PM UTC-7, Rich Rostrom wrote:
> On 7/3/21 4:46 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > Would this include American Jews emigrating to Israel?
> They are nearly all Ashkenazim.
>

Yep.

> --
> Nous sommes dans une pot de chambre, et nous y serons emmerdés.
> --- General Auguste-Alexandre Ducrot at Sedan, 1870.

On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 20:47:57 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear wrote:

> On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 8:02:20 PM UTC-7, The Horny Goat wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 12:46:55 +1000, SolomonW <Solo...@citi.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT), WolfBear wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is the maximum *realistic* amount of European settler colonialism that can be done during the 20th century? The PoD here is 1900 or later. This settler colonialism would have to be done by people of European descent, and Yes, this would include Ashkenazi Jews here since to my knowledge, by their ancestry, Ashkenazi Jews are about half Italian (with the other half being Middle Eastern).
>>>
>>>If Hitler had succeeded, there would have been a lot of European settler
>>>colonialism of Europeans.
>> Sorry I don't consider "colonialism" in the form of one way trips to
>> death camps meeting Wolfbear's challenge.....
>>
>> I presume you're talking about Hitler's plans for German settlements
>> in Russia which probably counts since while it's from Europe to Europe
>> would definitely be one way. (Never mind the millions of dead Russian
>> civilians required to "achieve" this)
>
> This would be European settler colonialism AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER EUROPEANS, which I want to avoid at all costs here.

Russians are dubious about whether they are Europeans.