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With her husband overseas fighting The Great War, young PEARL dreams of
escaping her demanding parents and squalid life. The musical equivalent
of little horror-flick might be a tone-poem, as it's director Ti West's
meticulous ambiance and star (and co-writer) Mia Goth's unique persona
that give this grisly, bucolic hell its grip. Mostly recommended.

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 by: trotsky - Fri, 16 Dec 2022 23:12 UTC

On 12/15/22 6:08 PM, moviePig wrote:
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> With her husband overseas fighting The Great War, young PEARL dreams of
> escaping her demanding parents and squalid life.  The musical equivalent
> of little horror-flick might be a tone-poem, as it's director Ti West's
> meticulous ambiance and star (and co-writer) Mia Goth's unique persona
> that give this grisly, bucolic hell its grip.  Mostly recommended.

I have no idea what "the musical equivalent of little horror-flick" means.

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On 12/16/2022 6:12 PM, trotsky wrote:
> On 12/15/22 6:08 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>
>> With her husband overseas fighting The Great War, young PEARL dreams
>> of escaping her demanding parents and squalid life.  The musical
>> equivalent of little horror-flick might be a tone-poem, as it's
>> director Ti West's meticulous ambiance and star (and co-writer) Mia
>> Goth's unique persona that give this grisly, bucolic hell its grip.
>> Mostly recommended.
>
>
> I have no idea what "the musical equivalent of little horror-flick" means.

As with a 'tone poem', its only "message" is the mood it sets.

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 by: william ahearn - Sat, 17 Dec 2022 23:18 UTC

On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:08:17 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

> With her husband overseas fighting The Great War, young PEARL dreams of
> escaping her demanding parents and squalid life. The musical equivalent
> of little horror-flick might be a tone-poem, as it's director Ti West's
> meticulous ambiance and star (and co-writer) Mia Goth's unique persona
> that give this grisly, bucolic hell its grip. Mostly recommended.

Huh? The film is parody and comedy from the first frame. The time setting for the film is 1918, yet, the typeface for the opening credits is clearly a send-up of the 1940s. To boot, the film has a lazy eye toward maintaining the illusion of a time long gone. Visual clues to Carrie and Psycho appear and probably others that I missed. The whole film is a joke.

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On 12/17/2022 6:18 PM, william ahearn wrote:
> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 7:08:17 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
>
>> With her husband overseas fighting The Great War, young PEARL dreams of
>> escaping her demanding parents and squalid life. The musical equivalent
>> of little horror-flick might be a tone-poem, as it's director Ti West's
>> meticulous ambiance and star (and co-writer) Mia Goth's unique persona
>> that give this grisly, bucolic hell its grip. Mostly recommended.
>
> Huh? The film is parody and comedy from the first frame. The time setting for the film is 1918, yet, the typeface for the opening credits is clearly a send-up of the 1940s. To boot, the film has a lazy eye toward maintaining the illusion of a time long gone. Visual clues to Carrie and Psycho appear and probably others that I missed. The whole film is a joke.

It's parody like FAR FROM HEAVEN is parody, but both take swings at
actual pathos. I found it hard to wring comedy from that final shot.

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 by: william ahearn - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 00:23 UTC

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 6:28:07 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:

> It's parody like FAR FROM HEAVEN is parody, but both take swings at
> actual pathos. I found it hard to wring comedy from that final shot.

Oh, come on. It's hysterical. Two notes: Where were the flies that must have come off of the pig; and, Mia Goth may have turned in a fine performance, but as a farm girl she was clueless as to how to handle an ax.

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 by: moviePig - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 04:00 UTC

On 12/17/2022 7:23 PM, william ahearn wrote:
> On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 6:28:07 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
>
>> It's parody like FAR FROM HEAVEN is parody, but both take swings at
>> actual pathos. I found it hard to wring comedy from that final shot.
>
> Oh, come on. It's hysterical. Two notes: Where were the flies that must have come off of the pig; and, Mia Goth may have turned in a fine performance, but as a farm girl she was clueless as to how to handle an ax.

Might be worth noting that PSYCHO is sometimes called comic ...and I'd
allow that PEARL's comic aspects are broader.

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 by: william ahearn - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 08:58 UTC

On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 11:00:32 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
> On 12/17/2022 7:23 PM, william ahearn wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 17, 2022 at 6:28:07 PM UTC-5, pwal...@moviepig.com wrote:
> >
> >> It's parody like FAR FROM HEAVEN is parody, but both take swings at
> >> actual pathos. I found it hard to wring comedy from that final shot.
> >
> > Oh, come on. It's hysterical. Two notes: Where were the flies that must have come off of the pig; and, Mia Goth may have turned in a fine performance, but as a farm girl she was clueless as to how to handle an ax.
> Might be worth noting that PSYCHO is sometimes called comic ...and I'd
> allow that PEARL's comic aspects are broader.

That "broadness" allows for little else.

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 by: trotsky - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 13:25 UTC

On 12/16/22 9:56 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 12/16/2022 6:12 PM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 12/15/22 6:08 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>
>>> With her husband overseas fighting The Great War, young PEARL dreams
>>> of escaping her demanding parents and squalid life.  The musical
>>> equivalent of little horror-flick might be a tone-poem, as it's
>>> director Ti West's meticulous ambiance and star (and co-writer) Mia
>>> Goth's unique persona that give this grisly, bucolic hell its grip.
>>> Mostly recommended.
>>
>>
>> I have no idea what "the musical equivalent of little horror-flick"
>> means.
>
> As with a 'tone poem', its only "message" is the mood it sets.

What are the other choices, thought provoking depictions of axe murderers?

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 by: moviePig - Sun, 18 Dec 2022 14:43 UTC

On 12/18/2022 8:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 12/16/22 9:56 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 12/16/2022 6:12 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 12/15/22 6:08 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>
>>>> With her husband overseas fighting The Great War, young PEARL dreams
>>>> of escaping her demanding parents and squalid life.  The musical
>>>> equivalent of little horror-flick might be a tone-poem, as it's
>>>> director Ti West's meticulous ambiance and star (and co-writer) Mia
>>>> Goth's unique persona that give this grisly, bucolic hell its grip.
>>>> Mostly recommended.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have no idea what "the musical equivalent of little horror-flick"
>>> means.
>>
>> As with a 'tone poem', its only "message" is the mood it sets.
>
>
> What are the other choices, thought provoking depictions of axe murderers?

Umm, 'thought provoking', no. Maybe closer to a Hieronymous Bosch
....i.e., simply celebrating the macabre.

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 by: trotsky - Mon, 19 Dec 2022 11:26 UTC

On 12/18/22 8:43 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 12/18/2022 8:25 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 12/16/22 9:56 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 12/16/2022 6:12 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>> On 12/15/22 6:08 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> With her husband overseas fighting The Great War, young PEARL
>>>>> dreams of escaping her demanding parents and squalid life.  The
>>>>> musical equivalent of little horror-flick might be a tone-poem, as
>>>>> it's director Ti West's meticulous ambiance and star (and
>>>>> co-writer) Mia Goth's unique persona that give this grisly, bucolic
>>>>> hell its grip. Mostly recommended.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea what "the musical equivalent of little horror-flick"
>>>> means.
>>>
>>> As with a 'tone poem', its only "message" is the mood it sets.
>>
>>
>> What are the other choices, thought provoking depictions of axe
>> murderers?
>
>
> Umm, 'thought provoking', no.  Maybe closer to a Hieronymous Bosch
> ...i.e., simply celebrating the macabre.

Yeah, except they turned him into a police detective.

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