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Re: Pictures from the NightCafe

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 by: The Last Doctor - Thu, 28 Apr 2022 10:55 UTC

solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
> “You all is in a chase?”
>
> “Chase? Yes, as a matter of fact, young man, that’s exactly
> what this is.”
>
> Of course, that reference to the serial’s title would’ve been
> lost on the original viewers who only saw episode titles like:
>
>
> * The Executioners
>
> Those black-robed figures with bloodstained blades look really
> menacing. But what’s happened to the bodies of their victims?
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/r002EWmELUIUhtjyxfKU
>
> OTOH people with blades for heads just look silly, despite the
> program’s best efforts to make them menacing:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/e9kBbeyuua3PNx6crekg

I imagine a world where executioners had to wear hoods but gained prestige
for number of executions carried out. Their hoods, like chef’s toques, then
varied in height until you get this one, standing proud in front of his
latest hanged victim.
>
>
> * The Death of Time
>
> A skeleton lies in front of a large watch/clockface thing. If
> only it had been an hourglass, we would have a classic Memento
> Mori:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/wtF6pTkVyf3g4uzdXaPT
>
> And here’s an old, damaged clock in an old, spooky graveyard:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/CTbduiH2yGUEFSLfT3QX
>
> (And, of course, both of those pictures have more to do with
> that title than the episode did!)
>
>
> * Flight Through Eternity
>
> Here’s a plane being pulled back through the Master’s time
> contour to the prehistoric era. Oh, wait... Wrong story!
>
Very impressive picture though. Bet Time Flight won’t manage anything close
to that on-point.z-

> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/bLUZnyzwwBCcqHF9GCW6
>
> And in this picture, Eternity seems to have very cloudy skies:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/pzP9oJfPxssRVKcgZN15
>
>
> * Journey into Terror
>
> Passengers on that double-decker bus seem to be making a
> journey past terror, rather than into it:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/DO8LqkZfyX1D5NhxxF8d
>
> OTOH this picture would be right at home on the cover of an
> eighties’ anthology of classic ghost stories:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/PFNf4lsfBt6nhd5qLN8t
>
>
> * The Death of Doctor Who
>
> Yads and Aggy will probably claim the picture should’ve shown
> Jodie Whittaker and/or Chris Chibnall. It doesn’t. It shows
> piles of red dust on a fancy floor. I don’t know why:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/7UDxacSAR5PNpAX7sjhR
>
> Never mind. Here’s a recognisable Doctor. No, not Whittaker.
> It’s Capaldi. I don’t know why:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/a6qMcC7JlwXIX214TRJf
>
>
> * The Planet of Decision
>
> Planets, brains, faces, all mixed up together. That’s one way
> to interepret this abstract title:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/aDQ1s4jUBHUvaJ0ye3ME
>
> This might be another way, but once again, abstract concepts
> result in blurry blobs. Some of them might be planets:
>
> https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/F94SWkx5DdpLS3HO4LFX
>
>
>

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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Mike M mentioned:

> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Didn't Bradley Walsh present the British version for a while? It
>> might've been fun to see him pop up in the picture, many Doctors
>> too early!
>>
>> (Or am I thinking of the British version of a different tacky
>> American game show?)
>
> I didn’t remember but you’re right, Nicky Campbell presented 8 typical
> U.K. series (11-17 episodes) from 1988-1996, then our Brad presented
> a marathon run throughout 1997 once a week for 50 weeks - after which
> it was presented by John Leslie for another 4 years on daytime
> TV before finally being killed off.
>

Thanks. Good to know I can still remember useless British
television trivia!

--
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On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 12:38:20 UTC+1, Tim typed:

>
> The Tribe of Gum: https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/zP4mMoy69ViXQf0v9qCN

Fun fact: The name "The Tribe of Gum" is from the early drafts
of the script , when the leader of the tribe was called Gum.
Maybe we should be calling it "The Tribe of Za" instead, but
the old name is too much fun.

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 by: solar penguin - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:29 UTC

Now for The Time Meddler, the third and final part of a closely
linked trilogy of stories exploring the relationship between
time travellers and time itself. IMHO it’s also the best one!
(In fact, it’s probably my favourite Hartnell story ever!)

* The Watcher

No, this Watcher wasn’t the Doctor all the time. He wasn’t even
the Monk. He was a large, cosmic thing wearing a hat. Both
pictures agree on this, even though they disagree on almost
everything else:

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/MZg18VZA8Kn3V1wdVUiZ

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/94RKojSKirh1gdUtASMq

* The Meddling Monk

A strange, tentacled figure has discovered Erik’s flooded
catacombs beneath the Paris Opera House. It’s a great picture
but it has nothing to do with meddling or monks:

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/DjrePuDvY0tHgqDkR7I5

At least here we have a Buddhist monk, although he doesn’t
seem to be meddling:

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/BJl4wcSgum0nPKRAxmoL

* A Battle of Wits

A screenshot from a computer game. I don’t know enough about
modern gaming culture to say if this is a good one or not:

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/QTW63PbBaqxh2qs8SnaE

William Shakespeare is about to be punched in the face by a
strange device. I guess he won’t be writing Hamlet for
television after all:

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/Q50EadpSWM614pDvSMaI

* Checkmate

I’m not very good at chess, but even I know checkmate doesn’t
involve putting one piece on some crazy paving with the
symbols <E\e carved into one of the stones:

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/Q5qqmtxUpmKSHqbGyuev

At least these pieces are remaining on the board where they
belong:

https://creator.nightcafe.studio/creation/cO0jSCov9aDm9Sx2CWqW

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 by: solar penguin - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 08:37 UTC


Binky bleated on Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 23:46:30 UTC+1:

> In article <3cb28611-6502-4d09...@googlegroups.com> ,
> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 2:01:18 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> In article <b43197ba-fe49-4492...@googlegroups.com> ,
>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:59:44 AM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Fun fact: The name "The Tribe of Gum" is from the early
>>>>> drafts of the script , when the leader of the tribe was
>>>>> called Gum. Maybe we should be calling it "The Tribe of
>>>>> Za" instead, but the old name is too much fun.
>>>>
>>>> So "Gum" would have been the LEADER'S name, not the overall
>>>> name of the TRIBE!
>>>
>>> You really are dense , Timtit!
>>
>> solar penguin speculated that changing the leader's name from
>> Gum to Za should have changed the tribe's name. That would
>> mean that the tribe would be named after the leader, rather
>> than the tribe having a separate name like a nation.
>
> IYIO, TiSBr!

No. Tim’s right. That _is_ what I suggested. If it’s anyone's
opinion, it’s mine.

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:51 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 9:43 pm:
> In article <t4dnqk$g4j$2@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 7:54 am:
>>> In article <9ab5bbf3-cce0-481e-87bc-77c3279415bbn@googlegroups.com>,
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 11:24:14 UTC+1, Mike M mentioned:
>>>>> On 26/04/2022 09:51, solar penguin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Am I the only one disappointed the program hasm't been
>>>>>> trained on Tarot cards?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, at least it doesn't seem to have lots of images of old
>>>>> tacky game shows.
>>>>
>>>> Didn't Bradley Walsh present the British version for a while? It
>>>> might've been fun to see him pop up in the picture, many Doctors
>>>> too early!
>>>>
>>>> (Or am I thinking of the British version of a different tacky
>>>> American game show?)
>>>
>>> Walsh is talented. Whittaker OTOH ...
>>
>> Failure to even try to answer the questions asked, noted, clown.
>>
>> So nothing worthwhile to contribute .... but *HAD* to contribute,
>> none-the-less!! But, still, it's a post so added to your Precious Post
>> Count, clown!!

> Even seen Brad Walsh outside Doctor Who, Dannyboy?!

I'm sure I have, clown, but SO WHAT, clown?? We are not discussing the
Careers of particular persons, clown, we are discussing 'Doctor Who'
T.V. series, clown!!

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

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Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 9:43 pm:
>> In article <t4dnqk$g4j$2@dont-email.me>,
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 7:54 am:
>>>> In article <9ab5bbf3-cce0-481e-87bc-77c3279415bbn@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't Bradley Walsh present the British version for a while? It
>>>>> might've been fun to see him pop up in the picture, many Doctors
>>>>> too early!
>>>>>
>>>>> (Or am I thinking of the British version of a different tacky
>>>>> American game show?)
>>>>
>>>> Walsh is talented. Whittaker OTOH ...
>>>
>>> Failure to even try to answer the questions asked, noted,
>>> clown.
>>>
>>> So nothing worthwhile to contribute .... but *HAD* to,
>>> contribute none-the-less!! But, still, it's a post so added to
>>> your Precious Post Count, clown!!
>
>
>> Even seen Brad Walsh outside Doctor Who, Dannyboy?!
>
> I'm sure I have, clown, but SO WHAT, clown?? We are not discussing
> the Careers of particular persons, clown, we are discussing
> 'Doctor Who' T.V. series, clown!!

Liar! We’re discussing the career of Bradley Walsh, especially
his time presenting the British version of ‘Wheel of Fortune.’

>
> Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst
> thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is
> in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in
> thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine
> own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is
> in thy brother’s eye.

Oh, and by the way... Friedrich W. Nietzsche: Beware that,
when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a
monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss
gazes also into you.

--
solar penguin

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 by: Daniel65 - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 12:59 UTC

solar penguin wrote on 29/4/22 10:25 pm:
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 9:43 pm:
>>> In article <t4dnqk$g4j$2@dont-email.me>,
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 7:54 am:
>>>>> In article <9ab5bbf3-cce0-481e-87bc-77c3279415bbn@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't Bradley Walsh present the British version for a while? It
>>>>>> might've been fun to see him pop up in the picture, many Doctors
>>>>>> too early!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Or am I thinking of the British version of a different tacky
>>>>>> American game show?)
>>>>>
>>>>> Walsh is talented. Whittaker OTOH ...
>>>>
>>>> Failure to even try to answer the questions asked, noted,
>>>> clown.
>>>>
>>>> So nothing worthwhile to contribute .... but *HAD* to,
>>>> contribute none-the-less!! But, still, it's a post so added to
>>>> your Precious Post Count, clown!!
>>
>>
>>> Even seen Brad Walsh outside Doctor Who, Dannyboy?!
>>
>> I'm sure I have, clown, but SO WHAT, clown?? We are not discussing
>> the Careers of particular persons, clown, we are discussing
>> 'Doctor Who' T.V. series, clown!!
>
> Liar! We’re discussing the career of Bradley Walsh, especially
> his time presenting the British version of ‘Wheel of Fortune.’

Umm!! I can see, where, in my post before the last post of mine, the
clown had posted ...

Quote
Walsh is talented. Whittaker OTOH ...
End Quote

Walsh and Whittaker have appeared in 'Doctor Who' together but I don't
know of any other program, including 'the British version of ‘Wheel of
Fortune.' where they have appeared together!! ;-P

But I am sorry for polluting your "Pictures from the NightCafe" thread!
I have been trying to not respond since you complained several days ago
..... but I guess I failed on this occasion.

Again, SORRY!

--
Daniel

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 by: solar penguin - Fri, 29 Apr 2022 14:57 UTC

Binky bleated:

> In article <t4glgd$fif$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, and by the way... Friedrich W. Nietzsche: Beware that,
>> when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a
>> monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss
>> gazes also into you.
>>
>
> Go SP!!!
>

You do know I just called you a monster and an abyss, right?

--
solar penguin

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Daniel declared:

> solar penguin wrote on 29/4/22 10:25 pm:
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 9:43 pm:
>>>> In article <t4dnqk$g4j$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 7:54 am:
>>>>>> In article <9ab5bbf3-cce0-481e-87bc-77c3279415bbn@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Didn't Bradley Walsh present the British version for a while? It
>>>>>>> might've been fun to see him pop up in the picture, many Doctors
>>>>>>> too early!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Or am I thinking of the British version of a different tacky
>>>>>>> American game show?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Walsh is talented. Whittaker OTOH ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Failure to even try to answer the questions asked, noted,
>>>>> clown.
>>>>>
>>>>> So nothing worthwhile to contribute .... but *HAD* to,
>>>>> contribute none-the-less!! But, still, it's a post so added to
>>>>> your Precious Post Count, clown!!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Even seen Brad Walsh outside Doctor Who, Dannyboy?!
>>>
>>> I'm sure I have, clown, but SO WHAT, clown?? We are not discussing
>>> the Careers of particular persons, clown, we are discussing
>>> 'Doctor Who' T.V. series, clown!!
>>
>> Liar! We’re discussing the career of Bradley Walsh, especially
>> his time presenting the British version of ‘Wheel of Fortune.’
>
> Umm!! I can see, where, in my post before the last post of mine, the
> clown had posted ...
>
> Quote
> Walsh is talented. Whittaker OTOH ...
> End Quote
>
> Walsh and Whittaker have appeared in 'Doctor Who' together but I don't
> know of any other program, including 'the British version of ‘Wheel of
> Fortune.' where they have appeared together!! ;-P

True, but you have to admit that compared to the Idiot’s
usual anti-Whittaker posts, that was pretty restrained.

>
> But I am sorry for polluting your "Pictures from the NightCafe" thread!
> I have been trying to not respond since you complained several days ago
> .... but I guess I failed on this occasion.
>
> Again, SORRY!
>

And I’m sorry if I came across as scolding you or acting
too harshly.

--
solar penguin

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Tim typed:

> In article <b14692a7-bbfc-4bac-8dee-75b01aa9bd9fn@googlegroups.com>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Binky bleated on Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 23:46:30 UTC+1:
>>
>>> In article <3cb28611-6502-4d09...@googlegroups.com> ,
>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 2:01:18 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> In article <b43197ba-fe49-4492...@googlegroups.com> ,
>>>>> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 9:59:44 AM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fun fact: The name "The Tribe of Gum" is from the early
>>>>>>> drafts of the script , when the leader of the tribe was
>>>>>>> called Gum. Maybe we should be calling it "The Tribe of
>>>>>>> Za" instead, but the old name is too much fun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So "Gum" would have been the LEADER'S name, not the overall
>>>>>> name of the TRIBE!
>>>>>
>>>>> You really are dense , Timtit!
>>>>
>>>> solar penguin speculated that changing the leader's name from
>>>> Gum to Za should have changed the tribe's name. That would
>>>> mean that the tribe would be named after the leader, rather
>>>> than the tribe having a separate name like a nation.
>>>
>>> IYIO, TiSBr!
>>
>> No. Tim’s right. That _is_ what I suggested. If it’s anyone's
>> opinion, it’s mine.
>
> But I thought Tim was going against you.

No. He was questioning me to confirm my opinion. That’s all.

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 by: Daniel65 - Sat, 30 Apr 2022 10:13 UTC

solar penguin wrote on 30/4/22 12:57 am:
> Daniel declared:
>> solar penguin wrote on 29/4/22 10:25 pm:
>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 9:43 pm:
>>>>> In article <t4dnqk$g4j$2@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 7:54 am:
>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>> <9ab5bbf3-cce0-481e-87bc-77c3279415bbn@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didn't Bradley Walsh present the British version for a
>>>>>>>> while? It might've been fun to see him pop up in the
>>>>>>>> picture, many Doctors too early!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Or am I thinking of the British version of a different
>>>>>>>> tacky American game show?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Walsh is talented. Whittaker OTOH ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Failure to even try to answer the questions asked, noted,
>>>>>> clown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So nothing worthwhile to contribute .... but *HAD* to,
>>>>>> contribute none-the-less!! But, still, it's a post so added
>>>>>> to your Precious Post Count, clown!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Even seen Brad Walsh outside Doctor Who, Dannyboy?!
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure I have, clown, but SO WHAT, clown?? We are not
>>>> discussing the Careers of particular persons, clown, we are
>>>> discussing 'Doctor Who' T.V. series, clown!!
>>>
>>> Liar! We’re discussing the career of Bradley Walsh, especially
>>> his time presenting the British version of ‘Wheel of Fortune.’
>>
>> Umm!! I can see, where, in my post before the last post of mine,
>> the clown had posted ...
>>
>> Quote Walsh is talented. Whittaker OTOH ... End Quote
>>
>> Walsh and Whittaker have appeared in 'Doctor Who' together but I
>> don't know of any other program, including 'the British version of
>> ‘Wheel of Fortune.' where they have appeared together!! ;-P
>
> True, but you have to admit that compared to the Idiot’s usual
> anti-Whittaker posts, that was pretty restrained.

YES, that is so!
>> But I am sorry for polluting your "Pictures from the NightCafe"
>> thread! I have been trying to not respond since you complained
>> several days ago .... but I guess I failed on this occasion.
>>
>> Again, SORRY!
>
> And I’m sorry if I came across as scolding you or acting too
> harshly.

Communication via TEXT ONLY can be fraut!! ;-)
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sat, 30 Apr 2022 10:20 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 30/4/22 12:22 am:
> In article <t4gg06$1tu$3@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> The Doctor wrote on 28/4/22 9:43 pm:

<Snip>

>>> Even seen Brad Walsh outside Doctor Who, Dannyboy?!
>>
>> I'm sure I have, clown, but SO WHAT, clown?? We are not discussing
>> the Careers of particular persons, clown, we are discussing 'Doctor
>> Who' T.V. series, clown!!

> And all involved. Seeing J-LC lately?

To answer that question I'd first need to know who the hell is "J-LC" clown.

> Dannyboy just wants his post count to increase. Are you complaining
> that your post count is too low Dannyboy?
>
>>
>> Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst
>> thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is
>> in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in
>> thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine
>> own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that
>> is in thy brother’s eye.
>
> So who do you worship? Jesus Christ or the Pope? And that is a
> mutually exclusive or.

Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and I are of the
Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of 'Christianity' do YOU,
clown, follow??
--
Daniel

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I’m taking a break over the weekend, and will start posting
season 3 on Monday.

--
solar penguin

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Binky bleated:

> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1@dont-email.me>,
> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and I are of the
>> Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of 'Christianity' do YOU,
>> clown, follow??
>

>
> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>

I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of protestantism.
Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist? Puritan? Quaker?

--
solar penguin

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solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Binky bleated:
>
>> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and I are of the
>>> Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of 'Christianity' do YOU,
>>> clown, follow??
>>
>
>>
>> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>>
>
> I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of protestantism.
> Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist? Puritan? Quaker?
>

Can’t be any of those, they all recognise reality and accept the age of the
universe, the validity of evolution, and that the Bible is not to be taken
literally. And as far as I know, none of them hold to Levitican food laws.

It’s some minor cult that Dave never names because he knows deep down
they’re loons.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Sun, 1 May 2022 05:18 UTC

The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <t4jujs$25j$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Binky bleated:
>>>
>>>> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and I are of the
>>>>> Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of 'Christianity' do YOU,
>>>>> clown, follow??
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of protestantism.
>>> Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist? Puritan? Quaker?
>>>
>>
>> Can’t be any of those, they all recognise reality and accept the age of the
>> universe, the validity of evolution, and that the Bible is not to be taken
>> literally. And as far as I know, none of them hold to Levitican food laws.
>>
>> It’s some minor cult that Dave never names because he knows deep down
>> they’re loons.
>>
>
> Said Mike, the pro-Chibnall lunatic!

See how, rather than admit what “church” he is a member of, he tries to
deflect with lies and insults.

--
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which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 1 May 2022 10:11 UTC

solar penguin wrote on 1/5/22 3:18 am> Binky bleated:
>> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and I are
>>> of the Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of
>>> 'Christianity' do YOU, clown, follow??
>>
>> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>
> I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of protestantism.
> Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist? Puritan? Quaker?

Thank you!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 1 May 2022 10:13 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 1/5/22 4:19 am:
> 242 On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 10:18:03 AM UTC-7, solar penguin
> wrote:
>> Binky bleated:
>>> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1...@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and I
>>>> are of the Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of
>>>> 'Christianity' do YOU, clown, follow??
>>>
>>> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>>
>> I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of protestantism.
>> Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist? Puritan? Quaker?
>
> Protest-Ant: A dissident, non-Catholic ant.

Why does the Ant have to be 'non-Catholic', Tim?? Can't Catholic Ants
protest about anything, Tim??
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 1 May 2022 10:15 UTC

The Last Doctor wrote on 1/5/22 4:19 am:
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Binky bleated:
>>> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and I
>>>> are of the Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of
>>>> 'Christianity' do YOU, clown, follow??
>>>
>>> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>>
>> I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of protestantism.
>> Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist? Puritan? Quaker?
>
> Can’t be any of those, they all recognise reality and accept the age
> of the universe, the validity of evolution, and that the Bible is not
> to be taken literally. And as far as I know, none of them hold to
> Levitican food laws.
>
> It’s some minor cult that Dave never names because he knows deep
> down they’re loons.

I wouldn't mind if they were 'loons', but if I knew their name, I might
know what version of 'Loon' they are!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 1 May 2022 10:19 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 1/5/22 8:07 am:
> In article <124b6cee-12dd-4d3c-b47a-f85d7d8ef0bfn@googlegroups.com>,
> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:19:42 AM UTC-7, The Last Doctor
>> wrote:
>>> solar penguin <solar....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Binky bleated:
>>>>> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1...@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>>>> <dani...@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and
>>>>>> I are of the Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of
>>>>>> 'Christianity' do YOU, clown, follow??
>>>>>
>>>>> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of
>>>> protestantism. Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist?
>>>> Puritan? Quaker?
>>>>
>>> Can’t be any of those, they all recognise reality and accept
>>> the age of the universe, the validity of evolution, and that the
>>> Bible is not to be taken literally. And as far as I know, none
>>> of them hold to Levitican food laws.
>>>
>>> It’s some minor cult that Dave never names because he knows
>>> deep down they’re loons.
>>
>> I think a Calvery is involved.
>
> Can you tried to use spamgroups spellchecker?!

Why don't YOU, clown, try that as well, clown ..... and then, maybe,
YOU, clown, could find a Grammar Checker as well, clown!!

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Sun, 1 May 2022 10:22 UTC

The Last Doctor wrote on 1/5/22 3:18 pm:
> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> In article <t4jujs$25j$1@dont-email.me>, The Last Doctor
>> <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Binky bleated:
>>>>> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1@dont-email.me>, Daniel65
>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and
>>>>>> I are of the Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of
>>>>>> 'Christianity' do YOU, clown, follow??
>>>>>
>>>>> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of
>>>> protestantism. Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist?
>>>> Puritan? Quaker?
>>>
>>> Can’t be any of those, they all recognise reality and accept the
>>> age of the universe, the validity of evolution, and that the
>>> Bible is not to be taken literally. And as far as I know, none of
>>> them hold to Levitican food laws.
>>>
>>> It’s some minor cult that Dave never names because he knows deep
>>> down they’re loons.
>>
>> Said Mike, the pro-Chibnall lunatic!
>
> See how, rather than admit what “church” he is a member of, he tries
> to deflect with lies and insults.

Yeap! Long established habit!!

I suspect he doesn't name his Religion because the clown can't handle
the humiliation!!
--
Daniel

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The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <t4l56s$6e7$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <t4jujs$25j$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Binky bleated:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and I are of the
>>>>>>> Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of 'Christianity' do YOU,
>>>>>>> clown, follow??
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of protestantism.
>>>>> Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist? Puritan? Quaker?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can’t be any of those, they all recognise reality and accept the age of the
>>>> universe, the validity of evolution, and that the Bible is not to be taken
>>>> literally. And as far as I know, none of them hold to Levitican food laws.
>>>>
>>>> It’s some minor cult that Dave never names because he knows deep down
>>>> they’re loons.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Said Mike, the pro-Chibnall lunatic!
>>
>> See how, rather than admit what “church” he is a member of, he tries to
>> deflect with lies and insults.
>>
>
> Because your list is incomplete!

I didn’t make a list, Dave, so it can’t be incomplete. In any case, you
don’t need to pick from a list to name your church, surely? You must know
which one you belong to. All you have to do is name it.

Unless you’re ashamed to be a member of course. That’s the ONLY reason I
can think of that you wouldn’t want to respond here with the name of your
church.

So what is it?

Hint: “Protestantism” isn’t a church. It’s a collective name for a whole
set of churches that broke away from Catholicism starting in the early 16th
century, and then from each other - “splitters!” Many of them believe some
quite different things from each other.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <t4lukf$nq6$1@dont-email.me>,
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>> In article <t4l56s$6e7$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>> In article <t4jujs$25j$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:
>>>>>> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Binky bleated:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <t4j2ic$v4$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey, clown, everyone here would be aware that both Tim and I are of the
>>>>>>>>> Roman Catholic faith, clown, so what breed of 'Christianity' do YOU,
>>>>>>>>> clown, follow??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Protestantism, Dannyboy!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suspect that Daniel wants to know which brand of protestantism.
>>>>>>> Lutheran? Calvinist? Anglican? Methodist? Puritan? Quaker?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can’t be any of those, they all recognise reality and accept the
>> age of the
>>>>>> universe, the validity of evolution, and that the Bible is not to be taken
>>>>>> literally. And as far as I know, none of them hold to Levitican food laws.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s some minor cult that Dave never names because he knows deep down
>>>>>> they’re loons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Said Mike, the pro-Chibnall lunatic!
>>>>
>>>> See how, rather than admit what “church” he is a member of, he tries to
>>>> deflect with lies and insults.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Because your list is incomplete!
>>
>> I didn’t make a list, Dave, so it can’t be incomplete. In any case, you
>> don’t need to pick from a list to name your church, surely? You must know
>> which one you belong to. All you have to do is name it.
>>
>> Unless you’re ashamed to be a member of course. That’s the ONLY reason I
>> can think of that you wouldn’t want to respond here with the name of your
>> church.
>>
>> So what is it?
>>
>> Hint: “Protestantism” isn’t a church. It’s a collective name for a whole
>> set of churches that broke away from Catholicism starting in the early 16th
>> century, and then from each other - “splitters!” Many of them believe some
>> quite different things from each other.
>>
>
> And wider yet than your list.

I DO NOT HAVE A LIST. I DID NOT MAKE A LIST.

It doesn’t take a list to be able to name your church. I asked you to tell
us the name of the church you belong to, and pointed out that the only
reason not to is if you are ashamed to be in it.

Name your church.

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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 by: The Last Doctor - Mon, 2 May 2022 06:12 UTC

The Confused Idiot wrote:
> The Last Doctor <mike@xenocyte.com> wrote:

>> I DO NOT HAVE A LIST. I DID NOT MAKE A LIST.
>>
>> It doesn’t take a list to be able to name your church. I asked you to tell
>> us the name of the church you belong to, and pointed out that the only
>> reason not to is if you are ashamed to be in it.
>>
>> Name your church.
>>
>
> Never seen my personal blog lately then!
>
> Hint: It is non-denominational!

That’s scarcely a hint, as every tiny church or cult that doesn’t follow
one of the mainstream sets of belief is non-denominational - it’s a
negative, not a positive characteristic. There are literally thousands of
them.

In any case, I didn’t ask for a hint, or to be pointed to your secret
diaries.

I requested (not too politely, I admit, but I was getting exasperated with
your inability to answer even the simplest, clearest questions) that you
“Name your Church!”

For instance, if you asked me that, I would say “none, as I have not
considered myself Christian for my whole adult life. However, 45 years ago
I was in the Church of England”.

But your “answer” was “Never seen my personal blog lately then!” Which has
to be one of the oddest things I’ve ever seen a church called. That can’t
be right.

Let me try again as, clearly, you found the question too hard to
understand.

Can you please tell us all, by using its name, what the church you follow
is called?

--
There are some corners of the universe
which have bred the most terrible things.
Things which act against everything we believe in.

They must be /fought/.

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