Peanuts: Joe Motorcross
https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2022/02/19

The end justify the means ?

Lynn

On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 21:01:31 UTC, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> Peanuts: Joe Motorcross
> https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2022/02/19
>
> The end justify the means ?

I haven't looked so much at "Peanuts" lately...
the kids participating in the same fantasy
(I assume) as the dog, is a little weird.

My impression is that Snoopy usually doesn't
pay much attention to what "the round headed
kid" or others say, so maybe he's giving them
things to say here that suit his story.

My next reflection is that Snoopy's fantasies
give him a rougher time than mine do. Going to
war against "The Red Baron" is usually a bust, too.

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 2:01:31 PM UTC-7, Lynn McGuire wrote:

> The end justify the means ?

In this case, it doesn't, which is the joke.

John Savard

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 9:01:31 PM UTC, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> Peanuts: Joe Motorcross
> https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2022/02/19
>
> The end justify the means ?
>
> Lynn
I don't think this is end vs means because the protagonist is not inflicting pain on others, but suffering it themselves. In fact, the worth of the trophy (like a laurel wreath) is pretty much only that it certifies that its winner has been prepared to sacrifice their body (and the time and money taken to prepare their equipment for their race) to win.

On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 21:01:31 UTC, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > Peanuts: Joe Motorcross
> > https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2022/02/19
> >
> > The end justify the means ?
> I haven't looked so much at "Peanuts" lately...
> the kids participating in the same fantasy
> (I assume) as the dog, is a little weird.
>
> My impression is that Snoopy usually doesn't
> pay much attention to what "the round headed
> kid" or others say, so maybe he's giving them
> things to say here that suit his story.
>
> My next reflection is that Snoopy's fantasies
> give him a rougher time than mine do. Going to
> war against "The Red Baron" is usually a bust, too.

Bear in mind this strip is from 1975. Schulz passed in 2000.

I agree, the Peanuts human characters seem very aware of
The non-doggy aspects of Snoopy's life.

Pt

On 2/20/2022 8:15 AM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 21:01:31 UTC, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> Peanuts: Joe Motorcross
>>> https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2022/02/19
>>>
>>> The end justify the means ?
>> I haven't looked so much at "Peanuts" lately...
>> the kids participating in the same fantasy
>> (I assume) as the dog, is a little weird.
>>
>> My impression is that Snoopy usually doesn't
>> pay much attention to what "the round headed
>> kid" or others say, so maybe he's giving them
>> things to say here that suit his story.
>>
>> My next reflection is that Snoopy's fantasies
>> give him a rougher time than mine do. Going to
>> war against "The Red Baron" is usually a bust, too.
>
> Bear in mind this strip is from 1975. Schulz passed in 2000.
>
And as someone I know elsewhere in the World Wide Web says every time
Peanuts comes up, Schulz wanted EVERYTHING Peanuts shut down and ended
upon his death and said so in his will.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 10:16:02 AM UTC-6, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> > On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 21:01:31 UTC, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > > Peanuts: Joe Motorcross
> > > https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2022/02/19
> > >
> > > The end justify the means ?
> > I haven't looked so much at "Peanuts" lately...
> > the kids participating in the same fantasy
> > (I assume) as the dog, is a little weird.
> >
> > My impression is that Snoopy usually doesn't
> > pay much attention to what "the round headed
> > kid" or others say, so maybe he's giving them
> > things to say here that suit his story.
> >
> > My next reflection is that Snoopy's fantasies
> > give him a rougher time than mine do. Going to
> > war against "The Red Baron" is usually a bust, too.
> Bear in mind this strip is from 1975. Schulz passed in 2000.
>
> I agree, the Peanuts human characters seem very aware of
> The non-doggy aspects of Snoopy's life.

In one daily strip Lucy said, "Snoopy isn't as smart as I thought
he was . . . he moves his lips when he reads."

https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/789115165930108713/

Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist

In article <17581fd1-f82c-4e47-bef1-30f9ca267dc9n@googlegroups.com>,
peterwezeman@hotmail.com <peterwezeman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 10:16:02 AM UTC-6, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> > On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 21:01:31 UTC, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> > > Peanuts: Joe Motorcross
>> > > https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2022/02/19
>> > >
>> > > The end justify the means ?
>> > I haven't looked so much at "Peanuts" lately...
>> > the kids participating in the same fantasy
>> > (I assume) as the dog, is a little weird.
>> >
>> > My impression is that Snoopy usually doesn't
>> > pay much attention to what "the round headed
>> > kid" or others say, so maybe he's giving them
>> > things to say here that suit his story.
>> >
>> > My next reflection is that Snoopy's fantasies
>> > give him a rougher time than mine do. Going to
>> > war against "The Red Baron" is usually a bust, too.
>> Bear in mind this strip is from 1975. Schulz passed in 2000.
>>
>> I agree, the Peanuts human characters seem very aware of
>> The non-doggy aspects of Snoopy's life.
>
>In one daily strip Lucy said, "Snoopy isn't as smart as I thought
> he was . . . he moves his lips when he reads."
>
>https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/789115165930108713/
>

It comes and goes as required. They all critique his novel for instance.

(It was actually published eventually)
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What's not in Columbia anymore..

On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 11:26:09 AM UTC-5, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 2/20/2022 8:15 AM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> >> On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 21:01:31 UTC, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> >>> Peanuts: Joe Motorcross
> >>> https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2022/02/19
> >>>
> >>> The end justify the means ?
> >> I haven't looked so much at "Peanuts" lately...
> >> the kids participating in the same fantasy
> >> (I assume) as the dog, is a little weird.
> >>
> >> My impression is that Snoopy usually doesn't
> >> pay much attention to what "the round headed
> >> kid" or others say, so maybe he's giving them
> >> things to say here that suit his story.
> >>
> >> My next reflection is that Snoopy's fantasies
> >> give him a rougher time than mine do. Going to
> >> war against "The Red Baron" is usually a bust, too.
> >
> > Bear in mind this strip is from 1975. Schulz passed in 2000.
> >
> And as someone I know elsewhere in the World Wide Web says every time
> Peanuts comes up, Schulz wanted EVERYTHING Peanuts shut down and ended
> upon his death and said so in his will.

I know that he was adamant that no one take over the strip. Do you
have a cite where he went further? I don't recall the estate objecting
to the movie, and the Peanuts Museum, adjacent store, and ice rink in Santa
Rosa continue to be going concerns (and delightful!).

Pt

On 2/20/2022 12:42 PM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 11:26:09 AM UTC-5, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> On 2/20/2022 8:15 AM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 19 February 2022 at 21:01:31 UTC, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> Peanuts: Joe Motorcross
>>>>> https://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/2022/02/19
>>>>>
>>>>> The end justify the means ?
>>>> I haven't looked so much at "Peanuts" lately...
>>>> the kids participating in the same fantasy
>>>> (I assume) as the dog, is a little weird.
>>>>
>>>> My impression is that Snoopy usually doesn't
>>>> pay much attention to what "the round headed
>>>> kid" or others say, so maybe he's giving them
>>>> things to say here that suit his story.
>>>>
>>>> My next reflection is that Snoopy's fantasies
>>>> give him a rougher time than mine do. Going to
>>>> war against "The Red Baron" is usually a bust, too.
>>>
>>> Bear in mind this strip is from 1975. Schulz passed in 2000.
>>>
>> And as someone I know elsewhere in the World Wide Web says every time
>> Peanuts comes up, Schulz wanted EVERYTHING Peanuts shut down and ended
>> upon his death and said so in his will.
>
> I know that he was adamant that no one take over the strip. Do you
> have a cite where he went further? I don't recall the estate objecting
> to the movie, and the Peanuts Museum, adjacent store, and ice rink in Santa
> Rosa continue to be going concerns (and delightful!).
>
I don't have a cite for it, its just something he's ranted about for
many years whenever they come up.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:20:33 PM UTC+11, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:26:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> >And as someone I know elsewhere in the World Wide Web says every time
> >Peanuts comes up, Schulz wanted EVERYTHING Peanuts shut down and ended
> >upon his death and said so in his will.
> Given the number of Peanuts books out there (I have no idea how many
> there are in total but as a young teenager 40+ years ago I had at
> least 20) that was always a vain hope.
>
> May as well have Churchill make such an order in his will and expect
> it to be carried out. Simply wasn't going to happen.

He didn't make that request, he requested that nobody else would do peanuts strips.

In article <9d7085b2-0a54-4d5a-8bcc-79866318fce1n@googlegroups.com>,
Hamish Laws <hamish.laws@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:20:33 PM UTC+11, The Horny Goat wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:26:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
>> <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>> >And as someone I know elsewhere in the World Wide Web says every time
>> >Peanuts comes up, Schulz wanted EVERYTHING Peanuts shut down and ended
>> >upon his death and said so in his will.
>> Given the number of Peanuts books out there (I have no idea how many
>> there are in total but as a young teenager 40+ years ago I had at
>> least 20) that was always a vain hope.
>>
>> May as well have Churchill make such an order in his will and expect
>> it to be carried out. Simply wasn't going to happen.
>
>He didn't make that request, he requested that nobody else would do
>peanuts strips.

Which has been at least borderline flouted. There have been no non-Schulz
strips in the actual comic strip, which continues to run in repeats,
but there has been new Peanuts comic book material.
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What's not in Columbia anymore..

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 8:13:34 AM UTC-5, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <9d7085b2-0a54-4d5a...@googlegroups.com>,
> Hamish Laws <hamis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:20:33 PM UTC+11, The Horny Goat wrote:
> >> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:26:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
> >> <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >And as someone I know elsewhere in the World Wide Web says every time
> >> >Peanuts comes up, Schulz wanted EVERYTHING Peanuts shut down and ended
> >> >upon his death and said so in his will.
> >> Given the number of Peanuts books out there (I have no idea how many
> >> there are in total but as a young teenager 40+ years ago I had at
> >> least 20) that was always a vain hope.
> >>
> >> May as well have Churchill make such an order in his will and expect
> >> it to be carried out. Simply wasn't going to happen.
> >
> >He didn't make that request, he requested that nobody else would do
> >peanuts strips.
> Which has been at least borderline flouted. There have been no non-Schulz
> strips in the actual comic strip, which continues to run in repeats,
> but there has been new Peanuts comic book material.

Plus a CGI animated movie, which I took as well-intended fanfic.

pt

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 8:13:34 AM UTC-5, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <9d7085b2-0a54-4d5a...@googlegroups.com>,
> Hamish Laws <hamis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:20:33 PM UTC+11, The Horny Goat wrote:
> >> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:26:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
> >> <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >And as someone I know elsewhere in the World Wide Web says every time
> >> >Peanuts comes up, Schulz wanted EVERYTHING Peanuts shut down and ended
> >> >upon his death and said so in his will.
> >> Given the number of Peanuts books out there (I have no idea how many
> >> there are in total but as a young teenager 40+ years ago I had at
> >> least 20) that was always a vain hope.
> >>
> >> May as well have Churchill make such an order in his will and expect
> >> it to be carried out. Simply wasn't going to happen.
> >
> >He didn't make that request, he requested that nobody else would do
> >peanuts strips.
> Which has been at least borderline flouted. There have been no non-Schulz
> strips in the actual comic strip, which continues to run in repeats,
> but there has been new Peanuts comic book material.
> --

Interview with one of the artists who worked on the PEANUTS series
from on Dell, and Gold Key:

https://www.hoganmag.com/blog/dale-hale-and-the-peanuts-comic-book-the-interview

It's _motocross_, BTW. French influence.

Besides Dell and Gold Key, PEANUTS comics have cine from Boom! Studios.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom!_Studios

--
Kevin R

On 2/23/2022 3:58 PM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 8:13:34 AM UTC-5, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article <9d7085b2-0a54-4d5a...@googlegroups.com>,
>> Hamish Laws <hamis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 1:20:33 PM UTC+11, The Horny Goat wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:26:06 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
>>>> <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And as someone I know elsewhere in the World Wide Web says every time
>>>>> Peanuts comes up, Schulz wanted EVERYTHING Peanuts shut down and ended
>>>>> upon his death and said so in his will.
>>>> Given the number of Peanuts books out there (I have no idea how many
>>>> there are in total but as a young teenager 40+ years ago I had at
>>>> least 20) that was always a vain hope.
>>>>
>>>> May as well have Churchill make such an order in his will and expect
>>>> it to be carried out. Simply wasn't going to happen.
>>>
>>> He didn't make that request, he requested that nobody else would do
>>> peanuts strips.
>> Which has been at least borderline flouted. There have been no non-Schulz
>> strips in the actual comic strip, which continues to run in repeats,
>> but there has been new Peanuts comic book material.
>> --
>
> Interview with one of the artists who worked on the PEANUTS series
> from on Dell, and Gold Key:
>
> https://www.hoganmag.com/blog/dale-hale-and-the-peanuts-comic-book-the-interview
>
> It's _motocross_, BTW. French influence.
>
> Besides Dell and Gold Key, PEANUTS comics have cine from Boom! Studios.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom!_Studios

Oops, my bad on the motocross. Charlie Brown got it right, I did not not.

Lynn

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 5:39:50 PM UTC-5, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 2/23/2022 3:58 PM, Kevrob wrote:

[snip]

> > It's _motocross_, BTW. French influence.
> >
> > Besides Dell and Gold Key, PEANUTS comics have cine from Boom! Studios.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom!_Studios
> Oops, my bad on the motocross. Charlie Brown got it right, I did not not.
>

And, as per rule, my correction has "come" spelled as "cine."

--
Kevin R