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* sally Kellerman (1937 - 2022)Kevrob
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[quote]

A native Californian, Kellerman had a memorable role in the third Star
Trek episode, “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” in which she portrayed
Dr. Elizabeth Dehner, a human Starfleet officer aboard the USS Enterprise.
When Dehner sacrifices her life, her dying words to Capt. Kirk (William
Shatner) are, “I’m sorry … you can’t know what it’s like to … be almost a
god.”

[/quote] - "Sally Kellerman, Hot Lips Houlihan in ‘M*A*S*H,’ Dies at 84"

Article mentions other sfnal parts: "The Outer Limits," "Lost Horizon."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sally-kellerman-dead-hot-lips-houlihan-mash-1235099282/

Condolences to Ms Kellerman's loved ones.

--
Kevin R

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 by: a425couple - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:02 UTC

On 2/25/2022 9:05 AM, Kevrob wrote:
> [quote]
>
> A native Californian, Kellerman had a memorable role in the third Star
> Trek episode, “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” in which she portrayed
> Dr. Elizabeth Dehner, a human Starfleet officer aboard the USS Enterprise.
> When Dehner sacrifices her life, her dying words to Capt. Kirk (William
> Shatner) are, “I’m sorry … you can’t know what it’s like to … be almost a
> god.”
>
> [/quote] - "Sally Kellerman, Hot Lips Houlihan in ‘M*A*S*H,’ Dies at 84"
>
> Article mentions other sfnal parts: "The Outer Limits," "Lost Horizon."
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sally-kellerman-dead-hot-lips-houlihan-mash-1235099282/
>
> Condolences to Ms Kellerman's loved ones.
>
Yes, Condolences.

Interesting, if you look at the pictures,
back then, there were no "Red Shirts" on the
crew. They were all blue or tanish (various
shades, greenish to goldish).

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Re: sally Kellerman (1937 - 2022)

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 by: Johann Klammer - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:04 UTC

On 02/26/2022 05:02 PM, a425couple wrote:

>
> Interesting, if you look at the pictures,
> back then, there were no "Red Shirts" on the
> crew. They were all blue or tanish (various
> shades, greenish to goldish).
>
> https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrUi6y2Sxpimk0AES4PxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3BpdnM-?p=star+trek+episode+where+no+man+has+gone+before&type=gsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--&param1=1&param2=cat%3Dweb%26sesid%3Dc23413aa7c05642fb287d8a49ae994c3%26ip%3D71.227.211.204%26b%3DChrome%26bv%3D98.0.4758.102%26os%3DWindows-10%26os_ver%3D10.0%26pa%3Dgencoll84%26sid%3D362aa56613d9bcd5b3cb7038c4bea5f4%26abid%3D%26abg%3D%26a%3Dgsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--%26sdk_ver%3D%26cd%3D%26cr%3D%26uid%3D%26uref%3D&hsimp=yhs-068&hspart=dcola&ei=UTF-8&fr=yhs-dcola-068#id=8&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages4.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F16400000%2Fwhere-no-man-has-gone-before-star-trek-women-16442552-694-530.jpg&action=click
I believe that's because It was one of the pilot episodes.

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 by: a425couple - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 18:22 UTC

On 2/26/2022 9:04 AM, Johann Klammer wrote:
> On 02/26/2022 05:02 PM, a425couple wrote:
>
>>
>> Interesting, if you look at the pictures,
>> back then, there were no "Red Shirts" on the
>> crew. They were all blue or tanish (various
>> shades, greenish to goldish).
>>
>> https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrUi6y2Sxpimk0AES4PxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3BpdnM-?p=star+trek+episode+where+no+man+has+gone+before&type=gsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--&param1=1&param2=cat%3Dweb%26sesid%3Dc23413aa7c05642fb287d8a49ae994c3%26ip%3D71.227.211.204%26b%3DChrome%26bv%3D98.0.4758.102%26os%3DWindows-10%26os_ver%3D10.0%26pa%3Dgencoll84%26sid%3D362aa56613d9bcd5b3cb7038c4bea5f4%26abid%3D%26abg%3D%26a%3Dgsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--%26sdk_ver%3D%26cd%3D%26cr%3D%26uid%3D%26uref%3D&hsimp=yhs-068&hspart=dcola&ei=UTF-8&fr=yhs-dcola-068#id=8&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages4.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F16400000%2Fwhere-no-man-has-gone-before-star-trek-women-16442552-694-530.jpg&action=click

> I believe that's because It was one of the pilot episodes.

OK.

I was also giving a nod to:
the book "Redshirts" by John Scalzi

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0087GYY92/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

"(3) at least one low-ranked crew member is, sadly, always killed."

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On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 10:05:10 AM UTC-7, Johann Klammer wrote:

> I believe that's because It was one of the pilot episodes.

Yes, it was the second pilot.

John Savard

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 by: Kevrob - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 18:49 UTC

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 11:02:40 AM UTC-5, a425couple wrote:
> On 2/25/2022 9:05 AM, Kevrob wrote:
> > [quote]
> >
> > A native Californian, Kellerman had a memorable role in the third Star
> > Trek episode, “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” in which she portrayed
> > Dr. Elizabeth Dehner, a human Starfleet officer aboard the USS Enterprise.
> > When Dehner sacrifices her life, her dying words to Capt. Kirk (William
> > Shatner) are, “I’m sorry … you can’t know what it’s like to … be almost a
> > god.”
> >
> > [/quote] - "Sally Kellerman, Hot Lips Houlihan in ‘M*A*S*H,’ Dies at 84"
> >
> > Article mentions other sfnal parts: "The Outer Limits," "Lost Horizon."
> >
> > https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sally-kellerman-dead-hot-lips-houlihan-mash-1235099282/
> >
> > Condolences to Ms Kellerman's loved ones.
> >
> Yes, Condolences.
>
> Interesting, if you look at the pictures,
> back then, there were no "Red Shirts" on the
> crew. They were all blue or tanish (various
> shades, greenish to goldish).
>
> https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrUi6y2Sxpimk0AES4PxQt..;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3BpdnM-?p=star+trek+episode+where+no+man+has+gone+before&type=gsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--&param1=1&param2=cat%3Dweb%26sesid%3Dc23413aa7c05642fb287d8a49ae994c3%26ip%3D71.227.211.204%26b%3DChrome%26bv%3D98.0.4758.102%26os%3DWindows-10%26os_ver%3D10.0%26pa%3Dgencoll84%26sid%3D362aa56613d9bcd5b3cb7038c4bea5f4%26abid%3D%26abg%3D%26a%3Dgsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--%26sdk_ver%3D%26cd%3D%26cr%3D%26uid%3D%26uref%3D&hsimp=yhs-068&hspart=dcola&ei=UTF-8&fr=yhs-dcola-068#id=8&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages4.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F16400000%2Fwhere-no-man-has-gone-before-star-trek-women-16442552-694-530.jpg&action=click

Or https://tinyurl.com/trek-shirts

--
Kevin R

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 by: peterwezeman@hotmail - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:45 UTC

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 10:02:40 AM UTC-6, a425couple wrote:
> On 2/25/2022 9:05 AM, Kevrob wrote:
> > [quote]
> >
> > A native Californian, Kellerman had a memorable role in the third Star
> > Trek episode, “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” in which she portrayed
> > Dr. Elizabeth Dehner, a human Starfleet officer aboard the USS Enterprise.
> > When Dehner sacrifices her life, her dying words to Capt. Kirk (William
> > Shatner) are, “I’m sorry … you can’t know what it’s like to … be almost a
> > god.”
> >
> > [/quote] - "Sally Kellerman, Hot Lips Houlihan in ‘M*A*S*H,’ Dies at 84"
> >
> > Article mentions other sfnal parts: "The Outer Limits," "Lost Horizon."
> >
> > https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sally-kellerman-dead-hot-lips-houlihan-mash-1235099282/
> >
> > Condolences to Ms Kellerman's loved ones.
> >
> Yes, Condolences.
>
> Interesting, if you look at the pictures,
> back then, there were no "Red Shirts" on the
> crew. They were all blue or tanish (various
> shades, greenish to goldish).
>
> https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrUi6y2Sxpimk0AES4PxQt..;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3BpdnM-?p=star+trek+episode+where+no+man+has+gone+before&type=gsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--&param1=1&param2=cat%3Dweb%26sesid%3Dc23413aa7c05642fb287d8a49ae994c3%26ip%3D71.227.211.204%26b%3DChrome%26bv%3D98.0.4758.102%26os%3DWindows-10%26os_ver%3D10.0%26pa%3Dgencoll84%26sid%3D362aa56613d9bcd5b3cb7038c4bea5f4%26abid%3D%26abg%3D%26a%3Dgsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--%26sdk_ver%3D%26cd%3D%26cr%3D%26uid%3D%26uref%3D&hsimp=yhs-068&hspart=dcola&ei=UTF-8&fr=yhs-dcola-068#id=8&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages4.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F16400000%2Fwhere-no-man-has-gone-before-star-trek-women-16442552-694-530.jpg&action=click

Also, the uniform was shirt and trousers for both sexes, instead of the tunic/minidress for women.

Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 21:54 UTC

On 2/26/2022 12:45 PM, peterwezeman@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 10:02:40 AM UTC-6, a425couple wrote:
>> On 2/25/2022 9:05 AM, Kevrob wrote:
>>> [quote]
>>>
>>> A native Californian, Kellerman had a memorable role in the third Star
>>> Trek episode, “Where No Man Has Gone Before,” in which she portrayed
>>> Dr. Elizabeth Dehner, a human Starfleet officer aboard the USS Enterprise.
>>> When Dehner sacrifices her life, her dying words to Capt. Kirk (William
>>> Shatner) are, “I’m sorry … you can’t know what it’s like to … be almost a
>>> god.”
>>>
>>> [/quote] - "Sally Kellerman, Hot Lips Houlihan in ‘M*A*S*H,’ Dies at 84"
>>>
>>> Article mentions other sfnal parts: "The Outer Limits," "Lost Horizon."
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sally-kellerman-dead-hot-lips-houlihan-mash-1235099282/
>>>
>>> Condolences to Ms Kellerman's loved ones.
>>>
>> Yes, Condolences.
>>
>> Interesting, if you look at the pictures,
>> back then, there were no "Red Shirts" on the
>> crew. They were all blue or tanish (various
>> shades, greenish to goldish).
>>
>> https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrUi6y2Sxpimk0AES4PxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3BpdnM-?p=star+trek+episode+where+no+man+has+gone+before&type=gsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--&param1=1&param2=cat%3Dweb%26sesid%3Dc23413aa7c05642fb287d8a49ae994c3%26ip%3D71.227.211.204%26b%3DChrome%26bv%3D98.0.4758.102%26os%3DWindows-10%26os_ver%3D10.0%26pa%3Dgencoll84%26sid%3D362aa56613d9bcd5b3cb7038c4bea5f4%26abid%3D%26abg%3D%26a%3Dgsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--%26sdk_ver%3D%26cd%3D%26cr%3D%26uid%3D%26uref%3D&hsimp=yhs-068&hspart=dcola&ei=UTF-8&fr=yhs-dcola-068#id=8&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages4.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F16400000%2Fwhere-no-man-has-gone-before-star-trek-women-16442552-694-530.jpg&action=click
>
> Also, the uniform was shirt and trousers for both sexes, instead of the tunic/minidress for women.
>
"Needs more eye candy." - Desilu

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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 by: Kevrob - Sat, 26 Feb 2022 22:40 UTC

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 13:54:30 -0800, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>

[snip]
> >"Needs more eye candy." - Desilu
> A studio headed by someone who sucessfully resisted being made into
> eye candy.

In her starlet days, Lucy was a knockout!

https://classicblondes.com/2017/02/24/i-love-lucy/

--
Kevin R

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 by: Alan - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:50 UTC

On 2022-02-26 9:04 a.m., Johann Klammer wrote:
> On 02/26/2022 05:02 PM, a425couple wrote:
>
>>
>> Interesting, if you look at the pictures,
>> back then, there were no "Red Shirts" on the
>> crew. They were all blue or tanish (various
>> shades, greenish to goldish).
>>
>> https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrUi6y2Sxpimk0AES4PxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3BpdnM-?p=star+trek+episode+where+no+man+has+gone+before&type=gsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--&param1=1&param2=cat%3Dweb%26sesid%3Dc23413aa7c05642fb287d8a49ae994c3%26ip%3D71.227.211.204%26b%3DChrome%26bv%3D98.0.4758.102%26os%3DWindows-10%26os_ver%3D10.0%26pa%3Dgencoll84%26sid%3D362aa56613d9bcd5b3cb7038c4bea5f4%26abid%3D%26abg%3D%26a%3Dgsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--%26sdk_ver%3D%26cd%3D%26cr%3D%26uid%3D%26uref%3D&hsimp=yhs-068&hspart=dcola&ei=UTF-8&fr=yhs-dcola-068#id=8&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages4.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F16400000%2Fwhere-no-man-has-gone-before-star-trek-women-16442552-694-530.jpg&action=click
> I believe that's because It was one of the pilot episodes.

Correct!

It was a very rare second pilot after the first one with Captain
Christopher Pike.

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 by: Jerry Brown - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 09:50 UTC

On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 10:22:47 -0800, a425couple
<a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 2/26/2022 9:04 AM, Johann Klammer wrote:
>> On 02/26/2022 05:02 PM, a425couple wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Interesting, if you look at the pictures,
>>> back then, there were no "Red Shirts" on the
>>> crew. They were all blue or tanish (various
>>> shades, greenish to goldish).
>>>
>>> https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrUi6y2Sxpimk0AES4PxQt.;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzEEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3BpdnM-?p=star+trek+episode+where+no+man+has+gone+before&type=gsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--&param1=1&param2=cat%3Dweb%26sesid%3Dc23413aa7c05642fb287d8a49ae994c3%26ip%3D71.227.211.204%26b%3DChrome%26bv%3D98.0.4758.102%26os%3DWindows-10%26os_ver%3D10.0%26pa%3Dgencoll84%26sid%3D362aa56613d9bcd5b3cb7038c4bea5f4%26abid%3D%26abg%3D%26a%3Dgsp_wfd468acegsyomqwpvfc_00_00_--x1-AB2222--%26sdk_ver%3D%26cd%3D%26cr%3D%26uid%3D%26uref%3D&hsimp=yhs-068&hspart=dcola&ei=UTF-8&fr=yhs-dcola-068#id=8&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages4.fanpop.com%2Fimage%2Fphotos%2F16400000%2Fwhere-no-man-has-gone-before-star-trek-women-16442552-694-530.jpg&action=click
>
>> I believe that's because It was one of the pilot episodes.
>
>OK.
>
>I was also giving a nod to:
>the book "Redshirts" by John Scalzi
>
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0087GYY92/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
>
>"(3) at least one low-ranked crew member is, sadly, always killed."
>
>

A mate recently pointed out to me that red shirts are actually
statistically the safest since they outnumber the gold and green by a
large amount.

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

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