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From: jdnic...@panix.com (James Nicoll)
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Subject: [translation] Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
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 by: James Nicoll - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16 UTC

Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it

A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
of higher learning.
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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:44 UTC

In article <t36eup$r6c$1@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>
>https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>
>A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>of higher learning.

Another title inspired by a quotation: from "Gaudeamus Igitur,"
whose text is medieval but whose music is Classical.

Vita nostra brevis est,
Brevi finietur;
Venit mors velociter,
Rapit nos atrociter,
Nemini parceter.

Our life is short,
It ends quickly;
Death comes rapidly,
It seizes us cruelly,
It spares no one.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
Nicoll) wrote:

>Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>
>https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>
>A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>of higher learning.

When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
Thought you might want to know.

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On 13.04.22 17:20, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
> Nicoll) wrote:
>
>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>
>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>
>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>> of higher learning.
>
> When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
> Thought you might want to know.
>
Works fine (XP PRO, firefox ESR 45.9.0)

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 17:54 UTC

In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>Nicoll) wrote:
>
>>Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>
>>https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>
>>A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>of higher learning.
>
>When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>Thought you might want to know.

Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 18:08 UTC

On 4/13/2022 12:54 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>
>>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>
>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>
>>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>> of higher learning.
>>
>> When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>> Thought you might want to know.
>
> Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
> unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.

Sounds like you are ready for a trackball mouse. My wife uses something
like this due to her neuropathy.
https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Trackball-Scroll-K72337US/dp/B002OOWB3O/

Lynn

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djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
>In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>>Nicoll) wrote:
>>
>>>Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>
>>>https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>
>>>A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>>of higher learning.
>>
>>When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>>Thought you might want to know.
>
>Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
>unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.

My guess is that Clarke ran into his employer's firewall.

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 by: J. Clarke - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 20:15 UTC

On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 13:08:38 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 4/13/2022 12:54 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>>
>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>>
>>>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>>> of higher learning.
>>>
>>> When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>>> Thought you might want to know.
>>
>> Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
>> unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.
>
>Sounds like you are ready for a trackball mouse. My wife uses something
>like this due to her neuropathy.
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Trackball-Scroll-K72337US/dp/B002OOWB3O/

Meanwhile, the link works now, and what comes to mind is "2 by 2,
hands of blue". Which really needed a second season.
>
>Lynn
>

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:10 UTC

In article <t373j6$eld$4@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/13/2022 12:54 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>>
>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>>
>>>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>>> of higher learning.
>>>
>>> When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>>> Thought you might want to know.
>>
>> Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
>> unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.
>
>Sounds like you are ready for a trackball mouse. My wife uses something
>like this due to her neuropathy.
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Trackball-Scroll-K72337US/dp/B002OOWB3O/

I've got a trackball already. (I don't have room on my tray for
a mousepad.) But my right thumb is the one that's *supposed* to
depress the left button, and the muscle that would make that
happen was the second casualty of my ALS. (The first was my
legs.) A secondary thumb muscle still works to depress the
button, if I put the thumb exactly on the correct quarter of a
square inch of the one-by-two-inches left button, which means I
have to look at the trackball to find it. I then have to reach
over with my left hand to move the ball *exactly* across the line
I want to copy. This task grows less worth the effort as time
passes.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 23:21 UTC

On 4/13/2022 4:10 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <t373j6$eld$4@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/13/2022 12:54 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>>>
>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>>>
>>>>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>>>> of higher learning.
>>>>
>>>> When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>>>> Thought you might want to know.
>>>
>>> Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
>>> unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.
>>
>> Sounds like you are ready for a trackball mouse. My wife uses something
>> like this due to her neuropathy.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Trackball-Scroll-K72337US/dp/B002OOWB3O/
>
> I've got a trackball already. (I don't have room on my tray for
> a mousepad.) But my right thumb is the one that's *supposed* to
> depress the left button, and the muscle that would make that
> happen was the second casualty of my ALS. (The first was my
> legs.) A secondary thumb muscle still works to depress the
> button, if I put the thumb exactly on the correct quarter of a
> square inch of the one-by-two-inches left button, which means I
> have to look at the trackball to find it. I then have to reach
> over with my left hand to move the ball *exactly* across the line
> I want to copy. This task grows less worth the effort as time
> passes.

Wow, that really sucks. Sounds like you need the telekinetic option now.

BTW, if you have multiple USB ports, you can have a mouse or trackball
for your right hand and a mouse or trackball for your left hand. I have
two employees using multiple mice now since their right dominant hands
don't work as well as they used to.

Lynn

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Wed, 13 Apr 2022 23:46 UTC

In article <t37luo$u0s$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/13/2022 4:10 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <t373j6$eld$4@dont-email.me>,
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2022 12:54 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>> In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>>>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>>>>> of higher learning.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>>>>> Thought you might want to know.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
>>>> unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.
>>>
>>> Sounds like you are ready for a trackball mouse. My wife uses something
>>> like this due to her neuropathy.
>>>
>>>
>https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Trackball-Scroll-K72337US/dp/B002OOWB3O/
>>
>> I've got a trackball already. (I don't have room on my tray for
>> a mousepad.) But my right thumb is the one that's *supposed* to
>> depress the left button, and the muscle that would make that
>> happen was the second casualty of my ALS. (The first was my
>> legs.) A secondary thumb muscle still works to depress the
>> button, if I put the thumb exactly on the correct quarter of a
>> square inch of the one-by-two-inches left button, which means I
>> have to look at the trackball to find it. I then have to reach
>> over with my left hand to move the ball *exactly* across the line
>> I want to copy. This task grows less worth the effort as time
>> passes.
>
>Wow, that really sucks. Sounds like you need the telekinetic option now.

That would be nice, but I don't think they're on the market yet.

>BTW, if you have multiple USB ports, you can have a mouse or trackball
>for your right hand and a mouse or trackball for your left hand. I have
>two employees using multiple mice now since their right dominant hands
>don't work as well as they used to.

Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
(It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <t37luo$u0s$1@dont-email.me>,
> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4/13/2022 4:10 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> In article <t373j6$eld$4@dont-email.me>,
>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2022 12:54 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>> In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
>>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>>>>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>>>>>> of higher learning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>>>>>> Thought you might want to know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
>>>>> unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like you are ready for a trackball mouse. My wife uses something
>>>> like this due to her neuropathy.
>>>>
>>>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Trackball-Scroll-K72337US/dp/B002OOWB3O/
>>>
>>> I've got a trackball already. (I don't have room on my tray for
>>> a mousepad.) But my right thumb is the one that's *supposed* to
>>> depress the left button, and the muscle that would make that
>>> happen was the second casualty of my ALS. (The first was my
>>> legs.) A secondary thumb muscle still works to depress the
>>> button, if I put the thumb exactly on the correct quarter of a
>>> square inch of the one-by-two-inches left button, which means I
>>> have to look at the trackball to find it. I then have to reach
>>> over with my left hand to move the ball *exactly* across the line
>>> I want to copy. This task grows less worth the effort as time
>>> passes.
>>
>> Wow, that really sucks. Sounds like you need the telekinetic option now.
>
> That would be nice, but I don't think they're on the market yet.
>
>> BTW, if you have multiple USB ports, you can have a mouse or trackball
>> for your right hand and a mouse or trackball for your left hand. I have
>> two employees using multiple mice now since their right dominant hands
>> don't work as well as they used to.
>
> Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
> isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
> (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
> don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
> I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
> when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
> lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
> secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
> room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
> around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
> my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.

Are you using a Windows PC or a Linux box ? If you are using Windows
then you might want to try Dragon Naturally Speaking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_NaturallySpeaking

Here is a review:
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/dragon-naturallyspeaking-13-home

Wow, not cheap ! $250 at Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Nuance-Dragon-DC09A-G00-15-0-Home-15-0-dp-B07GFQFRKT/dp/B07GFQFRKT/

Lynn

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 00:56 UTC

On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
....
> Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
> isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
> (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
> don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
> I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
> when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
> lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
> secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
> room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
> around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
> my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.

Here is a list of speech recognition software, some pay for and some
free. Some on PC, Mac, or Linux.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_speech_recognition_software

My 2019 F-150 has speech recognition for the radio, phone, and
navigation controls. It sucks. I will press the steering wheel button,
and say "call dad". It promptly calls Ryan (not my Dad !). If I say
"call Ryan" it calls Ryan's brother Mike. Of course, I do not think
that the system was tuned for east Texas Redneck.

The worst is navigation. I will press the steering wheel button and say
"navigate to the Sheraton Hotel in Oklahoma City". It will come back
and say "did you mean navigate to Sherman, Texas ?". It is faster to
stop and type in the address on the side of the road.

Lynn

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On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:56:09 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> ...
> > Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
> > isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
> > (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
> > don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
> > I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
> > when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
> > lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
> > secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
> > room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
> > around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
> > my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.
> Here is a list of speech recognition software, some pay for and some
> free. Some on PC, Mac, or Linux.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_speech_recognition_software
>
> My 2019 F-150 has speech recognition for the radio, phone, and
> navigation controls. It sucks. I will press the steering wheel button,
> and say "call dad". It promptly calls Ryan (not my Dad !). If I say
> "call Ryan" it calls Ryan's brother Mike. Of course, I do not think
> that the system was tuned for east Texas Redneck.
>
> The worst is navigation. I will press the steering wheel button and say
> "navigate to the Sheraton Hotel in Oklahoma City". It will come back
> and say "did you mean navigate to Sherman, Texas ?". It is faster to
> stop and type in the address on the side of the road.

The voice recognition in the Tesla is shockingly good. However, you do
get some weirdness's due to Elon's sense of humor. If I say "Play Light
My Fire", hoping to hear the Doors, the dome light turns on instead.

Pt

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:45:22 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <t37luo$u0s$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2022 4:10 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>> In article <t373j6$eld$4@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2022 12:54 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>> In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>>>>>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>>>>>>> of higher learning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>>>>>>> Thought you might want to know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
>>>>>> unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you are ready for a trackball mouse. My wife uses something
>>>>> like this due to her neuropathy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Trackball-Scroll-K72337US/dp/B002OOWB3O/
>>>>
>>>> I've got a trackball already. (I don't have room on my tray for
>>>> a mousepad.) But my right thumb is the one that's *supposed* to
>>>> depress the left button, and the muscle that would make that
>>>> happen was the second casualty of my ALS. (The first was my
>>>> legs.) A secondary thumb muscle still works to depress the
>>>> button, if I put the thumb exactly on the correct quarter of a
>>>> square inch of the one-by-two-inches left button, which means I
>>>> have to look at the trackball to find it. I then have to reach
>>>> over with my left hand to move the ball *exactly* across the line
>>>> I want to copy. This task grows less worth the effort as time
>>>> passes.
>>>
>>> Wow, that really sucks. Sounds like you need the telekinetic option now.
>>
>> That would be nice, but I don't think they're on the market yet.
>>
>>> BTW, if you have multiple USB ports, you can have a mouse or trackball
>>> for your right hand and a mouse or trackball for your left hand. I have
>>> two employees using multiple mice now since their right dominant hands
>>> don't work as well as they used to.
>>
>> Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
>> isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
>> (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
>> don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
>> I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
>> when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
>> lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
>> secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
>> room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
>> around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
>> my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.
>
>Are you using a Windows PC or a Linux box ? If you are using Windows
>then you might want to try Dragon Naturally Speaking.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_NaturallySpeaking
>
>Here is a review:
> https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/dragon-naturallyspeaking-13-home
>
>Wow, not cheap ! $250 at Amazon.
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Nuance-Dragon-DC09A-G00-15-0-Home-15-0-dp-B07GFQFRKT/dp/B07GFQFRKT/

Before spending ludicrous amounts for a Dragon product that doesn't
work worth crap (or didn't the last time I tried it), try the built in
voice recognition, which doesn't work any better but doesn't cost
anything.
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/use-voice-recognition-in-windows-83ff75bd-63eb-0b6c-18d4-6fae94050571#WindowsVersion=Windows_10>

It's there in Windows 7 too but not sure how to turn it on now.

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:56:03 -0500, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>...
>> Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
>> isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
>> (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
>> don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
>> I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
>> when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
>> lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
>> secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
>> room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
>> around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
>> my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.
>
>Here is a list of speech recognition software, some pay for and some
>free. Some on PC, Mac, or Linux.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_speech_recognition_software
>
>My 2019 F-150 has speech recognition for the radio, phone, and
>navigation controls. It sucks. I will press the steering wheel button,
>and say "call dad". It promptly calls Ryan (not my Dad !). If I say
>"call Ryan" it calls Ryan's brother Mike. Of course, I do not think
>that the system was tuned for east Texas Redneck.
>
>The worst is navigation. I will press the steering wheel button and say
>"navigate to the Sheraton Hotel in Oklahoma City". It will come back
>and say "did you mean navigate to Sherman, Texas ?". It is faster to
>stop and type in the address on the side of the road.

Just use Google Maps on your phone. If navigation is included free
with the car fine, but I wouldn't pay a cent extra for a car company's
navigation system.

My pet peeve is the damned radio. Have to use a voice command to turn
it on. And the damned thing is deaf as a post. Of course that's
Microsoft Stink but I suspect that Ford Stink isn't any better.

And Ford thinks that they're going to have a self-driving system
sometime in this millennium.

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:44:56 -0700 (PDT), "pete...@gmail.com"
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>On Wednesday, April 13, 2022 at 8:56:09 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> ...
>> > Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
>> > isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
>> > (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
>> > don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
>> > I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
>> > when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
>> > lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
>> > secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
>> > room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
>> > around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
>> > my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.
>> Here is a list of speech recognition software, some pay for and some
>> free. Some on PC, Mac, or Linux.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_speech_recognition_software
>>
>> My 2019 F-150 has speech recognition for the radio, phone, and
>> navigation controls. It sucks. I will press the steering wheel button,
>> and say "call dad". It promptly calls Ryan (not my Dad !). If I say
>> "call Ryan" it calls Ryan's brother Mike. Of course, I do not think
>> that the system was tuned for east Texas Redneck.
>>
>> The worst is navigation. I will press the steering wheel button and say
>> "navigate to the Sheraton Hotel in Oklahoma City". It will come back
>> and say "did you mean navigate to Sherman, Texas ?". It is faster to
>> stop and type in the address on the side of the road.
>
>The voice recognition in the Tesla is shockingly good. However, you do
>get some weirdness's due to Elon's sense of humor. If I say "Play Light
>My Fire", hoping to hear the Doors, the dome light turns on instead.

If they don't fix that before I buy one,
Elon better hope that he's never sitting next to me in an airline
seat. If I want that kind of crap I get plenty of it from Alexa for a
lot less than the price of a Tesla.
>
>Pt

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In article <t37qr3$r9d$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <t37luo$u0s$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2022 4:10 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>> In article <t373j6$eld$4@dont-email.me>,
>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2022 12:54 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>>>> In article <ghqd5h9upk00ia3ofg96cc14t6utd2555t@4ax.com>,
>>>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:25 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James
>>>>>>> Nicoll) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>>>>>>>> of higher learning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I try that link I get a page with "internal server error".
>>>>>>> Thought you might want to know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting; it worked for me (once I was able to get my
>>>>>> unresponsive right thumb to scroll over the URL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you are ready for a trackball mouse. My wife uses something
>>>>> like this due to her neuropathy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-Orbit-Trackball-Scroll-K72337US/dp/B002OOWB3O/
>>>>
>>>> I've got a trackball already. (I don't have room on my tray for
>>>> a mousepad.) But my right thumb is the one that's *supposed* to
>>>> depress the left button, and the muscle that would make that
>>>> happen was the second casualty of my ALS. (The first was my
>>>> legs.) A secondary thumb muscle still works to depress the
>>>> button, if I put the thumb exactly on the correct quarter of a
>>>> square inch of the one-by-two-inches left button, which means I
>>>> have to look at the trackball to find it. I then have to reach
>>>> over with my left hand to move the ball *exactly* across the line
>>>> I want to copy. This task grows less worth the effort as time
>>>> passes.
>>>
>>> Wow, that really sucks. Sounds like you need the telekinetic option now.
>>
>> That would be nice, but I don't think they're on the market yet.
>>
>>> BTW, if you have multiple USB ports, you can have a mouse or trackball
>>> for your right hand and a mouse or trackball for your left hand. I have
>>> two employees using multiple mice now since their right dominant hands
>>> don't work as well as they used to.
>>
>> Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
>> isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
>> (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
>> don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
>> I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
>> when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
>> lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
>> secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
>> room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
>> around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
>> my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.
>
>Are you using a Windows PC or a Linux box ? If you are using Windows
>then you might want to try Dragon Naturally Speaking.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_NaturallySpeaking
>
>Here is a review:
> https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/dragon-naturallyspeaking-13-home
>
>Wow, not cheap ! $250 at Amazon.

Oh dear. My speech is also affected, and I doubt any
speechwriter could make sense of it.

I also have noticeable shortness of breath, so I tend to utter
two or three words at a time.

What I have at present is a Win7 box, which I fear I'm going to
have to replace shortly. My neurologist likes to
videoconference, and his system use Win8 and up. (I'll have to
borrow Meg's laptop for the next visit.)

Sometimes there's just no way.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 03:32 UTC

In article <t37rf4$ufj$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>...
>> Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
>> isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
>> (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
>> don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
>> I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
>> when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
>> lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
>> secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
>> room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
>> around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
>> my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.
>
>Here is a list of speech recognition software, some pay for and some
>free. Some on PC, Mac, or Linux.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_speech_recognition_software
>
>My 2019 F-150 has speech recognition for the radio, phone, and
>navigation controls. It sucks. I will press the steering wheel button,
>and say "call dad". It promptly calls Ryan (not my Dad !). If I say
>"call Ryan" it calls Ryan's brother Mike. Of course, I do not think
>that the system was tuned for east Texas Redneck.

Probably doesn't speak SF Bay Area either.
>
>The worst is navigation. I will press the steering wheel button and say
>"navigate to the Sheraton Hotel in Oklahoma City". It will come back
>and say "did you mean navigate to Sherman, Texas ?". It is faster to
>stop and type in the address on the side of the road.

Ay, ay, ay! See my previous post about muddled speech.

I similarly have to get Hal to talk to pharmacists and such folk.

And for some reason our landline is beset by scammers who
(mostly) claim to be Medicare (which never calls patients). Then
there are people who claim to represent MasterCard, Visa, AND
Discover, those who want to give us discounts on things we don't
want to buy, and the great-granddaddy of all scammers, Publishers
Clearing House.

I no longer attempt to answer the landline when it rings; Hal growls
"I'll get it," grabs the handset, and gives the following range of
answers:

If they ask for me, "What did you want to talk to her about? ...
Medicare never phones anybody, Does your mother know you're a
scammer?"

Otherwise, he lets them talk for maybe ten seconds and then
"You're a scammer. Don't call this number again." If they
persist, he starts shouting. He has a very loud shout.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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 by: J. Clarke - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 04:09 UTC

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 03:32:12 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>In article <t37rf4$ufj$1@dont-email.me>,
>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>...
>>> Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
>>> isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
>>> (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
>>> don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
>>> I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
>>> when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
>>> lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
>>> secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
>>> room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
>>> around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
>>> my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.
>>
>>Here is a list of speech recognition software, some pay for and some
>>free. Some on PC, Mac, or Linux.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_speech_recognition_software
>>
>>My 2019 F-150 has speech recognition for the radio, phone, and
>>navigation controls. It sucks. I will press the steering wheel button,
>>and say "call dad". It promptly calls Ryan (not my Dad !). If I say
>>"call Ryan" it calls Ryan's brother Mike. Of course, I do not think
>>that the system was tuned for east Texas Redneck.
>
>Probably doesn't speak SF Bay Area either.
>>
>>The worst is navigation. I will press the steering wheel button and say
>>"navigate to the Sheraton Hotel in Oklahoma City". It will come back
>>and say "did you mean navigate to Sherman, Texas ?". It is faster to
>>stop and type in the address on the side of the road.
>
>Ay, ay, ay! See my previous post about muddled speech.
>
>I similarly have to get Hal to talk to pharmacists and such folk.
>
>And for some reason our landline is beset by scammers who
>(mostly) claim to be Medicare (which never calls patients). Then
>there are people who claim to represent MasterCard, Visa, AND
>Discover, those who want to give us discounts on things we don't
>want to buy, and the great-granddaddy of all scammers, Publishers
>Clearing House.
>
>I no longer attempt to answer the landline when it rings; Hal growls
>"I'll get it," grabs the handset, and gives the following range of
>answers:
>
>If they ask for me, "What did you want to talk to her about? ...
>Medicare never phones anybody, Does your mother know you're a
>scammer?"
>
>Otherwise, he lets them talk for maybe ten seconds and then
>"You're a scammer. Don't call this number again." If they
>persist, he starts shouting. He has a very loud shout.

The latest one for me is someone informing me that a Macbook Pro has
been ordered on my Amazon account. Of course Amazon has no record of
this order.

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On 14/04/22 01:44, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <t36eup$r6c$1@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
> <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>
>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>
>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute of
>> higher learning.
>
> Another title inspired by a quotation: from "Gaudeamus Igitur," whose
> text is medieval but whose music is Classical.
>
> Vita nostra brevis est, Brevi finietur; Venit mors velociter, Rapit
> nos atrociter, Nemini parceter.
>
> Our life is short, It ends quickly; Death comes rapidly, It seizes us
> cruelly, It spares no one.
>
..
Thank you for reminding me of this as we used to have to sing the first
verse at school en mass.
Gaudeamus igitur,
Juvenes dum sumus;
Post icundum iuventutem,
Post molestam senectutem
Nos habebit humus.

Let us therefore rejoice,
While we are young;
After our youth,
After a troublesome old age
The ground will hold us.

I have not known the English translation till now. It was our practice
as just teens secretly opposed to oppression to sing:
Guard your anus, hitch your tool... and I don't remember the rest though
the molestam was significant.

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 by: Gary R. Schmidt - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 05:19 UTC

On 13/04/2022 23:44, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <t36eup$r6c$1@reader1.panix.com>,
> James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>
>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>
>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute
>> of higher learning.
>
> Another title inspired by a quotation: from "Gaudeamus Igitur,"
> whose text is medieval but whose music is Classical.
>
> Vita nostra brevis est,
> Brevi finietur;
> Venit mors velociter,
> Rapit nos atrociter,
> Nemini parceter.
>
> Our life is short,
> It ends quickly;
> Death comes rapidly,
> It seizes us cruelly,
> It spares no one.
>
>
It's been over forty years, but (not claiming the spelling is accurate!)...

Gaudeamus igitur,
Juvenes dum sumus,
Gaudeamus igitur,
Juvenes dum sumus.
Post jucundam juventutem,
Post selectam senectutem,
Nos habebit humus,
Nos habebit humus.

Vivat acadaemia,
Vivant professores,
Vivat acadaemia,
Vivant professores,
Vivat membram quaelibet,
Vivant membra quadlibet,
Semper sint in flores,
Semper sint in flores.

Naughty schoolboy version follows:

<Several lines to protect those who don't want to see it>

<Should be enough>

Guard your arse and bite your balls,
Post your condoms in the mail.

Never heard any version that continued past that that worked. :-)

Cheers,
Gary B-)

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J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> schrieb:

> Meanwhile, the link works now, and what comes to mind is "2 by 2,
> hands of blue". Which really needed a second season.

One of the greatest TV shows ever prematurely cancelled. The film
they made to complete the series didn't quite cut it.

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:37 UTC

In article <t3895d$eas$1@dont-email.me>, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On 14/04/22 01:44, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> In article <t36eup$r6c$1@reader1.panix.com>, James Nicoll
>> <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>>> Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko & Sergey Dyachenko
>>>
>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/bound-to-regret-it
>>>
>>> A talented young woman is recruited for a very special institute of
>>> higher learning.
>>
>> Another title inspired by a quotation: from "Gaudeamus Igitur," whose
>> text is medieval but whose music is Classical.
>>
>> Vita nostra brevis est, Brevi finietur; Venit mors velociter, Rapit
>> nos atrociter, Nemini parceter.
>>
>> Our life is short, It ends quickly; Death comes rapidly, It seizes us
>> cruelly, It spares no one.
>>
>.
>Thank you for reminding me of this as we used to have to sing the first
>verse at school en mass.
>Gaudeamus igitur,
>Juvenes dum sumus;
>Post icundum iuventutem,
>Post molestam senectutem
>Nos habebit humus.
>
>Let us therefore rejoice,
>While we are young;
>After our youth,
>After a troublesome old age
>The ground will hold us.
>
>I have not known the English translation till now. It was our practice
>as just teens secretly opposed to oppression to sing:
>Guard your anus, hitch your tool... and I don't remember the rest though
>the molestam was significant.

Heh. The 20th-century poet Edna St. Vincent Millay incorporated
the first verse into a sonnet:

"All that delightful age forbears to spend
Molestful age inherits, and the ground
Will have us; therefore, while we're young, my friend...
The Latin's vulgar, but the advice is sound."

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

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 by: Dorothy J Heydt - Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:42 UTC

In article <ih7f5hl3aagu35tvlksik88obfh3n578pm@4ax.com>,
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 03:32:12 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>Heydt) wrote:
>
>>In article <t37rf4$ufj$1@dont-email.me>,
>>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On 4/13/2022 6:46 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>>...
>>>> Fortunately, my left hand is the dominant. Unfortunately, there
>>>> isn't room on the tray for the keyboard and *two* trackballs.
>>>> (It's your standard rolling hospital-type tray table.) And I
>>>> don't know if I could retrain my left hand to trackball use.
>>>> I've used the trackball with my right hand ever since the 1990s,
>>>> when I worked for a professor of molecular biology, in whose
>>>> lab all the graduate students and postdocs used Macs, and the
>>>> secretary had to do the same. They all used mice. There wasn't
>>>> room on my desk for a mousepad, but there was a trackball sitting
>>>> around in a storage room. That went under my right hand, leaving
>>>> my left hand free to take messages. That was a long time ago.
>>>
>>>Here is a list of speech recognition software, some pay for and some
>>>free. Some on PC, Mac, or Linux.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_speech_recognition_software
>>>
>>>My 2019 F-150 has speech recognition for the radio, phone, and
>>>navigation controls. It sucks. I will press the steering wheel button,
>>>and say "call dad". It promptly calls Ryan (not my Dad !). If I say
>>>"call Ryan" it calls Ryan's brother Mike. Of course, I do not think
>>>that the system was tuned for east Texas Redneck.
>>
>>Probably doesn't speak SF Bay Area either.
>>>
>>>The worst is navigation. I will press the steering wheel button and say
>>>"navigate to the Sheraton Hotel in Oklahoma City". It will come back
>>>and say "did you mean navigate to Sherman, Texas ?". It is faster to
>>>stop and type in the address on the side of the road.
>>
>>Ay, ay, ay! See my previous post about muddled speech.
>>
>>I similarly have to get Hal to talk to pharmacists and such folk.
>>
>>And for some reason our landline is beset by scammers who
>>(mostly) claim to be Medicare (which never calls patients). Then
>>there are people who claim to represent MasterCard, Visa, AND
>>Discover, those who want to give us discounts on things we don't
>>want to buy, and the great-granddaddy of all scammers, Publishers
>>Clearing House.
>>
>>I no longer attempt to answer the landline when it rings; Hal growls
>>"I'll get it," grabs the handset, and gives the following range of
>>answers:
>>
>>If they ask for me, "What did you want to talk to her about? ...
>>Medicare never phones anybody, Does your mother know you're a
>>scammer?"
>>
>>Otherwise, he lets them talk for maybe ten seconds and then
>>"You're a scammer. Don't call this number again." If they
>>persist, he starts shouting. He has a very loud shout.
>
>The latest one for me is someone informing me that a Macbook Pro has
>been ordered on my Amazon account. Of course Amazon has no record of
>this order.
>
Oh, we got one of those yesterday. Amazon never phones anybody
either, and I would die before using any more Mac boxes, after
several years chained to one in the professor's lab.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
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