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* Charles Sheffield recommendations?Tony Nance
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I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
listed at isfdb.org

Any recommendations on what to try next?
- Tony
[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
months of each other.

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 by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 02:32 UTC

In article <15111f09-336b-42cc-8258-a7f4667739fcn@googlegroups.com>,
Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
>I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
>and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
>ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
>Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
>listed at isfdb.org
>
>Any recommendations on what to try next?
>- Tony

I liked the McAndrew stories when I read them in Analog though I
recall very little specific about them now.
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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 by: James Nicoll - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:11 UTC

In article <15111f09-336b-42cc-8258-a7f4667739fcn@googlegroups.com>,
Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
>I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
>and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
>ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
>Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
>listed at isfdb.org
>
>Any recommendations on what to try next?
>- Tony
>[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> months of each other.

I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the Worlds.

I remember liking his Sight of Proteus, despite the bizarre science of
which contemplation-based shape shifting is only the beginning.
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On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:32:09 AM UTC+1, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> >listed at isfdb.org
> >
> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
> >- Tony
> I liked the McAndrew stories when I read them in Analog though I
> recall very little specific about them now.
> --
> columbiaclosings.com
> What's not in Columbia anymore..
I have an anthology of these, which I think is "The Compleat McAndrew" originally from Baen and now I see reasonably cheap on Kindle from a different publisher. From memory, McAndrew is a genius level mathematical physicist who likes to take long voyages around the asteroid belt so he can study without distractions. The narrator of the stories is a female long standing friend and sometime girlfriend, and what I remember about the stories is old fashioned puzzle stories and physics in space, very often black hole physics..

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mcdow...@sky.com wrote:
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:32:09 AM UTC+1, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>
> > I liked the McAndrew stories when I read them in Analog though I
> > recall very little specific about them now.
>
> I have an anthology of these, which I think is "The Compleat McAndrew"

That's because he wrote enough stories to make a book, _The McAndrew Chronicles_, then kept writing. He didn't have enough to make a second book, but an expansion of the first book, retitled: "One Man's Universe." It looks like you have the third go-round.

If you can find the collection _Vectors_ you have a sampler of his short fiction: the first McAndrew story, an Erasmus Darwin story (Charles Darwin's smarter ancestor, very much a Holmes&Watson mystery in Natural Philosophy), a Skystalk story, and an article on Beanstalks, some free-standing stories, and a few from what ISFDB indexes as "Burmeister and Carver," but which he refers to as his "sewage series," which should give you an idea of what he finds really funny. With self-deprecating introductions and commentary on the stories.

Then there's _Dancing with Myself_, sixteen stories and sixteen science articles.

--
-Jack

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Fri, 15 Apr 2022 18:46 UTC

On 4/14/2022 9:17 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
> I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> listed at isfdb.org
>
> Any recommendations on what to try next?
> - Tony
> [1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> months of each other.

All of them. I have about 6 or 8 of them in the garage stash. "The
Billion Dollar Boy", etc.
https://www.amazon.com/Billion-Dollar-Boy-Charles-Sheffield/dp/1612421814/

Lynn

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In article <15111f09-336b-42cc-8258-a7f4667739fcn@googlegroups.com>,
tonynance17@gmail.com says...
>
> I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> listed at isfdb.org
>
> Any recommendations on what to try next?
> - Tony
> [1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> months of each other.

I liked the Heritage Universe series.

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 by: James Nicoll - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 00:32 UTC

In article <8a4d581e-28d7-4a27-a645-8968a64f05a5n@googlegroups.com>,
Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> wrote:
>mcdow...@sky.com wrote:
>> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:32:09 AM UTC+1, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>
>> > I liked the McAndrew stories when I read them in Analog though I
>> > recall very little specific about them now.
>>
>> I have an anthology of these, which I think is "The Compleat McAndrew"
>
>That's because he wrote enough stories to make a book, _The McAndrew
>Chronicles_, then kept writing. He didn't have enough to make a second book,
>but an expansion of the first book, retitled: "One Man's Universe." It looks
>like you have the third go-round.
>
>If you can find the collection _Vectors_ you have a sampler of his short
>fiction: the first McAndrew story, an Erasmus Darwin story (Charles Darwin's
>smarter ancestor, very much a Holmes&Watson mystery in Natural Philosophy), a
>Skystalk story, and an article on Beanstalks, some free-standing stories, and
>a few from what ISFDB indexes as "Burmeister and Carver," but which he refers
>to as his "sewage series," which should give you an idea of what he finds
>really funny. With self-deprecating introductions and commentary on the
>stories.
>
>Then there's _Dancing with Myself_, sixteen stories and sixteen science articles.
>
And Hidden Variables, which has a variety of short pieces and is still in print.
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On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> >listed at isfdb.org
> >
> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
> >- Tony
> >[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> > months of each other.
> I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the Worlds.

Oh - interesting!

> I remember liking his Sight of Proteus, despite the bizarre science of
> which contemplation-based shape shifting is only the beginning.
>

Good to know - thanks.
- Tony

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 by: Tony Nance - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:33 UTC

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 12:44:48 PM UTC-4, mcdow...@sky.com wrote:
> On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:32:09 AM UTC+1, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> > In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
> > Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> > >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> > >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> > >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> > >listed at isfdb.org
> > >
> > >Any recommendations on what to try next?
> > >- Tony
> > I liked the McAndrew stories when I read them in Analog though I
> > recall very little specific about them now.
> >
>
> I have an anthology of these, which I think is "The Compleat McAndrew" originally from Baen and now I see reasonably cheap on Kindle from a different publisher. From memory, McAndrew is a genius level mathematical physicist who likes to take long voyages around the asteroid belt so he can study without distractions. The narrator of the stories is a female long standing friend and sometime girlfriend, and what I remember about the stories is old fashioned puzzle stories and physics in space, very often black hole physics.
>

Great - my thanks to you both.
- Tony

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 by: Tony Nance - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:34 UTC

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 2:16:04 PM UTC-4, jack....@gmail.com wrote:
> mcdow...@sky.com wrote:
> > On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 3:32:09 AM UTC+1, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> >
> > > I liked the McAndrew stories when I read them in Analog though I
> > > recall very little specific about them now.
> >
> > I have an anthology of these, which I think is "The Compleat McAndrew"
> That's because he wrote enough stories to make a book, _The McAndrew Chronicles_, then kept writing. He didn't have enough to make a second book, but an expansion of the first book, retitled: "One Man's Universe." It looks like you have the third go-round.
>
> If you can find the collection _Vectors_ you have a sampler of his short fiction: the first McAndrew story, an Erasmus Darwin story (Charles Darwin's smarter ancestor, very much a Holmes&Watson mystery in Natural Philosophy), a Skystalk story, and an article on Beanstalks, some free-standing stories, and a few from what ISFDB indexes as "Burmeister and Carver," but which he refers to as his "sewage series," which should give you an idea of what he finds really funny. With self-deprecating introductions and commentary on the stories.
>
> Then there's _Dancing with Myself_, sixteen stories and sixteen science articles.
>

Very helpful - thanks!
- Tony

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 by: Tony Nance - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:34 UTC

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 2:47:03 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 4/14/2022 9:17 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
> > I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> > and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> > ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> > Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> > listed at isfdb.org
> >
> > Any recommendations on what to try next?
> > - Tony
> > [1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> > months of each other.
>
> All of them. I have about 6 or 8 of them in the garage stash. "The
> Billion Dollar Boy", etc.
>

Thank you.
- Tony

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On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 5:33:11 PM UTC-4, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
> tonyn...@gmail.com says...
> >
> > I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> > and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> > ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> > Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> > listed at isfdb.org
> >
> > Any recommendations on what to try next?
> > - Tony
> > [1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> > months of each other.
>
> I liked the Heritage Universe series.
>

Thanks - seems like I have a lot of good choices here.
- Tony

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 by: James Nicoll - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 17:48 UTC

In article <bbd6d4d9-d3a5-49ce-9736-e6d7c78fa80bn@googlegroups.com>,
Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
>> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
>> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
>> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
>> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
>> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
>> >listed at isfdb.org
>> >
>> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
>> >- Tony
>> >[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
>> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
>> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
>> > months of each other.
>> I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the Worlds.
>
>Oh - interesting!

It wasn't the last time Sheffield came up with an original idea for a story,
only to discover another author had hit on the same idea independently.

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 by: Tony Nance - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 17:56 UTC

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:48:44 PM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <bbd6d4d9-d3a5-49ce...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> >> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> >> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> >> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> >> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> >> >listed at isfdb.org
> >> >
> >> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
> >> >- Tony
> >> >[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> >> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> >> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> >> > months of each other.
> >> I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the Worlds.
> >
> >Oh - interesting!
>
> It wasn't the last time Sheffield came up with an original idea for a story,
> only to discover another author had hit on the same idea independently.
>

Oh? Do tell...

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On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:32:53 PM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <8a4d581e-28d7-4a27...@googlegroups.com>,
> Jack Bohn <jack....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >If you can find the collection _Vectors_ you have a sampler of his short
> >fiction: the first McAndrew story, an Erasmus Darwin story (Charles Darwin's
> >smarter ancestor, very much a Holmes&Watson mystery in Natural Philosophy), a
> >Skystalk story, and an article on Beanstalks, some free-standing stories, and
> >a few from what ISFDB indexes as "Burmeister and Carver," but which he refers
> >to as his "sewage series," which should give you an idea of what he finds
> >really funny. With self-deprecating introductions and commentary on the
> >stories.
> >
> >Then there's _Dancing with Myself_, sixteen stories and sixteen science articles.
> >
> And Hidden Variables, which has a variety of short pieces and is still in print.

HA! Yes, almost everything I said about _Vectors_ applies to _Hidden Variables_!
I think I had the opportunity to buy it or _The McAndrew Chronicles_ but had already read more of the stories in it.
I know when I saw _Georgia on My Mind and Other Stories_ my money was needed elsewhere, but, really, we're going to stealth recommend everything, anyway.

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 by: James Nicoll - Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:47 UTC

In article <11300e70-531d-47b1-bed0-b22bc0286909n@googlegroups.com>,
Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:48:44 PM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
>> In article <bbd6d4d9-d3a5-49ce...@googlegroups.com>,
>> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
>> >> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
>> >> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
>> >> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
>> >> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
>> >> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
>> >> >listed at isfdb.org
>> >> >
>> >> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
>> >> >- Tony
>> >> >[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
>> >> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
>> >> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
>> >> > months of each other.
>> >> I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the Worlds.
>> >
>> >Oh - interesting!
>>
>> It wasn't the last time Sheffield came up with an original idea for a story,
>> only to discover another author had hit on the same idea independently.
>>
>
>Oh? Do tell...

He wrote a story about a binary world whose components were so close they were
within each other's Roche lobe, only to discover in casual conversation Robert
Forward had also just written a story with that premise.

(More tragically, he and Forward died of the same sort of brain cancer
within a few months of each other)

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 by: Robert Woodward - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 04:46 UTC

In article <t3evho$sou$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

> In article <bbd6d4d9-d3a5-49ce-9736-e6d7c78fa80bn@googlegroups.com>,
> Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> >> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> >> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> >> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> >> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> >> >listed at isfdb.org
> >> >
> >> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
> >> >- Tony
> >> >[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> >> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> >> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> >> > months of each other.
> >> I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the Worlds.
> >
> >Oh - interesting!
>
> It wasn't the last time Sheffield came up with an original idea for a story,
> only to discover another author had hit on the same idea independently.

IIRC, both Clarke, Poul Anderson, and Jack Vance wrote solar sail
stories around the same time (Clarke's was published in _Boys Life_
within a month of Anderson's story in _Analog_, and both had the same
title).

--
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Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
�-----------------------------------------------------
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 by: James Nicoll - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 12:43 UTC

In article <robertaw-05637D.21463016042022@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
>In article <t3evho$sou$1@reader1.panix.com>,
> jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>
>> In article <bbd6d4d9-d3a5-49ce-9736-e6d7c78fa80bn@googlegroups.com>,
>> Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
>> >> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
>> >> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
>> >> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
>> >> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
>> >> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
>> >> >listed at isfdb.org
>> >> >
>> >> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
>> >> >- Tony
>> >> >[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
>> >> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
>> >> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
>> >> > months of each other.
>> >> I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the Worlds.
>> >
>> >Oh - interesting!
>>
>> It wasn't the last time Sheffield came up with an original idea for a story,
>> only to discover another author had hit on the same idea independently.
>
>IIRC, both Clarke, Poul Anderson, and Jack Vance wrote solar sail
>stories around the same time (Clarke's was published in _Boys Life_
>within a month of Anderson's story in _Analog_, and both had the same
>title).

I did a tor piece on parallel ingenuity in SF that began with the Sheffield/Clarke
thing and mentioned the solar sail stories as well :)
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 by: Tony Nance - Sun, 17 Apr 2022 13:33 UTC

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 3:48:01 PM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> In article <11300e70-531d-47b1...@googlegroups.com>,
> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 1:48:44 PM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> >> In article <bbd6d4d9-d3a5-49ce...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> >> >> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> >> >> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> >> >> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> >> >> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> >> >> >listed at isfdb.org
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
> >> >> >- Tony
> >> >> >[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> >> >> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> >> >> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> >> >> > months of each other.
> >> >> I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the Worlds.
> >> >
> >> >Oh - interesting!
> >>
> >> It wasn't the last time Sheffield came up with an original idea for a story,
> >> only to discover another author had hit on the same idea independently.
> >>
> >
> >Oh? Do tell...
> He wrote a story about a binary world whose components were so close they were
> within each other's Roche lobe, only to discover in casual conversation Robert
> Forward had also just written a story with that premise.
>

Thanks - I had no idea.

> (More tragically, he and Forward died of the same sort of brain cancer
> within a few months of each other)
>

Tragic indeed.
- Tony

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 by: Robert Woodward - Mon, 18 Apr 2022 05:05 UTC

In article <t3h21g$l9c$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

> In article <robertaw-05637D.21463016042022@news.individual.net>,
> Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
> >In article <t3evho$sou$1@reader1.panix.com>,
> > jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <bbd6d4d9-d3a5-49ce-9736-e6d7c78fa80bn@googlegroups.com>,
> >> Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> >> >> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
> >> >> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
> >> >> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
> >> >> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
> >> >> >listed at isfdb.org
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
> >> >> >- Tony
> >> >> >[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
> >> >> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
> >> >> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
> >> >> > months of each other.
> >> >> I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the
> >> >> Worlds.
> >> >
> >> >Oh - interesting!
> >>
> >> It wasn't the last time Sheffield came up with an original idea for a
> >> story,
> >> only to discover another author had hit on the same idea independently.
> >
> >IIRC, both Clarke, Poul Anderson, and Jack Vance wrote solar sail
> >stories around the same time (Clarke's was published in _Boys Life_
> >within a month of Anderson's story in _Analog_, and both had the same
> >title).
>
> I did a tor piece on parallel ingenuity in SF that began with the
> Sheffield/Clarke
> thing and mentioned the solar sail stories as well :)

Now that you mentioned it, I did read your article at the time (but I
had already read both beanstalk stories, the 3 solar sail stories, and
even the Forward and Sheffield Roche world novels).

--
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Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
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 by: Ted Nolan - Mon, 18 Apr 2022 12:52 UTC

In article <robertaw-05637D.21463016042022@news.individual.net>,
Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
>In article <t3evho$sou$1@reader1.panix.com>,
> jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>
>> In article <bbd6d4d9-d3a5-49ce-9736-e6d7c78fa80bn@googlegroups.com>,
>> Tony Nance <tonynance17@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 8:11:39 AM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
>> >> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc...@googlegroups.com>,
>> >> Tony Nance <tonyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
>> >> >and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
>> >> >ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
>> >> >Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
>> >> >listed at isfdb.org
>> >> >
>> >> >Any recommendations on what to try next?
>> >> >- Tony
>> >> >[1] My edition has a very nice intro by Arthur C Clarke,
>> >> > talking about The Fountains of Paradise and
>> >> > The Web Between the Worlds coming out within
>> >> > months of each other.
>> >> I think that intro goes back to the 1st ed of The Web Between the Worlds.
>> >
>> >Oh - interesting!
>>
>> It wasn't the last time Sheffield came up with an original idea for a story,
>> only to discover another author had hit on the same idea independently.
>
>IIRC, both Clarke, Poul Anderson, and Jack Vance wrote solar sail
>stories around the same time (Clarke's was published in _Boys Life_
>within a month of Anderson's story in _Analog_, and both had the same
>title).
>�-----------------------------------------------------
My memory is that the Vance came from a contest of sorts where the cover
illustration was already chosen and a number of authors were challenged
to write a story about it.

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 by: Michael F. Stemper - Mon, 18 Apr 2022 14:12 UTC

On 15/04/2022 16.33, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
> In article <15111f09-336b-42cc-8258-a7f4667739fcn@googlegroups.com>,
> tonynance17@gmail.com says...
>>
>> I just finished Sheffield's The Web Between the Worlds[1],
>> and I really enjoyed it - especially the science/engineering
>> ideas and discussions. This is the only thing I've read by
>> Sheffield, and I am pleased to see so many other works
>> listed at isfdb.org
>>
>> Any recommendations on what to try next?

> I liked the Heritage Universe series.

As did I. It's the only Sheffield that I've read.

Its setting is FTL (I think) with forerunner artifacts. Really
big forerunner artifacts. (Well, some are only planetary scale,
but some are big.) There's a catalog of those so far discovered,
which (IIRC) numbers to slightly over one thousand.

A few folks of vastly different species (who have no reason to
like each other) are on a quasi-archaeological expedition to a
few of them.

<http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?557>

--
Michael F. Stemper
Deuteronomy 10:18-19

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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2022 11:44:51 -0700
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 by: The Horny Goat - Mon, 18 Apr 2022 18:44 UTC

On 18 Apr 2022 12:52:44 GMT, ted@warbird.lan (Ted Nolan) wrote:

>>IIRC, both Clarke, Poul Anderson, and Jack Vance wrote solar sail
>>stories around the same time (Clarke's was published in _Boys Life_
>>within a month of Anderson's story in _Analog_, and both had the same
>>title).
>>‹-----------------------------------------------------
>My memory is that the Vance came from a contest of sorts where the cover
>illustration was already chosen and a number of authors were challenged
>to write a story about it.

According to one or another of the Asimov anthologies which he editted
that used to be fairly common in the 50s and early 60s. Apparently one
of the early novellas that went into Foundation or Foundation & Empire
was done that way... when obviously Asimov had a lot less clout with
publishers than he did later on

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