://xkcd.com/2609/

Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
womenfolk from going into battle."

Only Aragorn wouldn't say that, having both Luthien and Elwing on
his family tree.

And Randal should've had only two hobbits in the party, and
Aragorn shouldn't have whiskers. (JRRT said in a letter
somewhere, "The Dunedain were beardless, a sign of their Elvish
blood.")

But at times even the good Homer nods.

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Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On Wednesday, 20 April 2022 at 19:47:59 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> ://xkcd.com/2609/
>
> Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
> sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
> womenfolk from going into battle."
>
> Only Aragorn wouldn't say that, having both Luthien and Elwing on
> his family tree.
>
> And Randal should've had only two hobbits in the party, and
> Aragorn shouldn't have whiskers. (JRRT said in a letter
> somewhere, "The Dunedain were beardless, a sign of their Elvish
> blood.")
>
> But at times even the good Homer nods.

I'm wondering how Treebeard confidently identifies
all of the multi-species party as non-female.
Especially the chick with the bow. :-)

On 4/20/2022 2:41 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Wednesday, 20 April 2022 at 19:47:59 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> ://xkcd.com/2609/
>>
>> Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
>> sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
>> womenfolk from going into battle."
>>
>> Only Aragorn wouldn't say that, having both Luthien and Elwing on
>> his family tree.
>>
>> And Randal should've had only two hobbits in the party, and
>> Aragorn shouldn't have whiskers. (JRRT said in a letter
>> somewhere, "The Dunedain were beardless, a sign of their Elvish
>> blood.")
>>
>> But at times even the good Homer nods.
>
> I'm wondering how Treebeard confidently identifies
> all of the multi-species party as non-female.
> Especially the chick with the bow. :-)

Treebeard has dealt with elves before.

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I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On 4/20/2022 1:38 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> ://xkcd.com/2609/
>
> Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
> sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
> womenfolk from going into battle."
>
> Only Aragorn wouldn't say that, having both Luthien and Elwing on
> his family tree.
>
> And Randal should've had only two hobbits in the party, and
> Aragorn shouldn't have whiskers. (JRRT said in a letter
> somewhere, "The Dunedain were beardless, a sign of their Elvish
> blood.")
>
> But at times even the good Homer nods.

Explained at:
https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2609:_Entwives

Lynn

In article <194ab4d5-c47e-48e0-9398-cbcefacf23d9n@googlegroups.com>,
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>On Wednesday, 20 April 2022 at 19:47:59 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> ://xkcd.com/2609/
>>
>> Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
>> sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
>> womenfolk from going into battle."
>>
>> Only Aragorn wouldn't say that, having both Luthien and Elwing on
>> his family tree.
>>
>> And Randal should've had only two hobbits in the party, and
>> Aragorn shouldn't have whiskers. (JRRT said in a letter
>> somewhere, "The Dunedain were beardless, a sign of their Elvish
>> blood.")
>>
>> But at times even the good Homer nods.
>
>I'm wondering how Treebeard confidently identifies
>all of the multi-species party as non-female.
>Especially the chick with the bow. :-)

Pheromones?

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On 4/20/2022 4:41 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Wednesday, 20 April 2022 at 19:47:59 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> ://xkcd.com/2609/
>>
>> Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
>> sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
>> womenfolk from going into battle."
>>
>> Only Aragorn wouldn't say that, having both Luthien and Elwing on
>> his family tree.
>>
>> And Randal should've had only two hobbits in the party, and
>> Aragorn shouldn't have whiskers. (JRRT said in a letter
>> somewhere, "The Dunedain were beardless, a sign of their Elvish
>> blood.")
>>
>> But at times even the good Homer nods.
>
> I'm wondering how Treebeard confidently identifies
> all of the multi-species party as non-female.
> Especially the chick with the bow. :-)

The "chick" with the bow is Legolas.

Lynn

In article <t3q15c$5n4$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/20/2022 1:38 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> ://xkcd.com/2609/
>>
>> Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
>> sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
>> womenfolk from going into battle."
>>
>> Only Aragorn wouldn't say that, having both Luthien and Elwing on
>> his family tree.
>>
>> And Randal should've had only two hobbits in the party, and
>> Aragorn shouldn't have whiskers. (JRRT said in a letter
>> somewhere, "The Dunedain were beardless, a sign of their Elvish
>> blood.")
>>
>> But at times even the good Homer nods.
>
>Explained at:
> https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/2609:_Entwives

Re: Bechdel test

I never saw Jackson's third film, having been disgusted by his
treatment of Faramir and Aragorn in his second. But in the
*book,* Galadriel accompanies Elrond's party bringing Arwen to
Minas Tirith. JRRT doesn't give them any dialogue, being focused
on Frodo's reaction.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

In article <t3q4q2$uav$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/20/2022 4:41 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 20 April 2022 at 19:47:59 UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>>> ://xkcd.com/2609/
>>>
>>> Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
>>> sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
>>> womenfolk from going into battle."
>>>
>>> Only Aragorn wouldn't say that, having both Luthien and Elwing on
>>> his family tree.
>>>
>>> And Randal should've had only two hobbits in the party, and
>>> Aragorn shouldn't have whiskers. (JRRT said in a letter
>>> somewhere, "The Dunedain were beardless, a sign of their Elvish
>>> blood.")
>>>
>>> But at times even the good Homer nods.
>>
>> I'm wondering how Treebeard confidently identifies
>> all of the multi-species party as non-female.
>> Especially the chick with the bow. :-)
>
>The "chick" with the bow is Legolas.

Yes, we know. I still think Treebeard is going by pheromones.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:41:09 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:

> I'm wondering how Treebeard confidently identifies
> all of the multi-species party as non-female.
> Especially the chick with the bow. :-)

In the Discworld books, the Dwarfs all have beards and in the early works it's near impossible to tell male from female, even among themselves. Some of the female city Dwarfs, notably Cheery Littlebottom, started wearing more feminine clothing.

Brian

On 4/20/2022 10:49 PM, Default User wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:41:09 PM UTC-5, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering how Treebeard confidently identifies
>> all of the multi-species party as non-female.
>> Especially the chick with the bow. :-)
>
> In the Discworld books, the Dwarfs all have beards and in the early works it's near impossible to tell male from female, even among themselves. Some of the female city Dwarfs, notably Cheery Littlebottom, started wearing more feminine clothing.
>
Slinkier chainmail armor. :)

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

On 2022-04-20 12:38 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> ://xkcd.com/2609/
>
> Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
> sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
> womenfolk from going into battle."

The Entwives didn't die in battle. They were literally lost. Here's a
question. Is Goldberry an entwife?

> The Entwives didn't die in battle. They were literally lost.
Am I the only one who noticed the hobbits referred to a mysterious wood no one goes to, and I thought it should be checked for entwives?

In article <t3s6r9$8ek$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2022-04-20 12:38 p.m., Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> ://xkcd.com/2609/
>>
>> Now, what Aragorn SHOULD have said was, "No, we learned of your
>> sad fate long ago, and since then we have discouraged our
>> womenfolk from going into battle."
>
>The Entwives didn't die in battle. They were literally lost. Here's a
>question. Is Goldberry an entwife?

She's the River's daughter. Her element is Water, not Wood. If
you can get hold of a copy of _The Songs of Tom Bombadil,_
there's a ballad describing her marriage-by-capture to Tom, with
which she appears to be perfectly contented.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

In article <84ea5d6f-48e5-455a-919d-a3e22e862e40n@googlegroups.com>,
synthius2002@yahoo.com <synthius2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> The Entwives didn't die in battle. They were literally lost.
>Am I the only one who noticed the hobbits referred to a mysterious wood
>no one goes to, and I thought it should be checked for entwives?

Is it named? Your phrasing seems to refer to the Old Forest, to
which the Bucklanders go when it suits them.

Now in the *game* _Lord of the Rings Online_ (which celebrates
its fifteenth anniversary today), north of Overhill there's a
spider-infested grove called Bindbole Wood, where a low-level
character gets to rescue an Ent* from a tangle of cobwebs. But
that was a creation of Turbine, now Standing Stone Games.
Although there is that pub talk of how Sam's cousin saw a tree
walking on the North Moors. But it is dismissed by all the
pubcrawlers.

_____
*Or an Entwife, or possibly a Huorn. They all look pretty much
alike.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/