Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories

https://www.tor.com/2022/04/25/five-books-featuring-uploaded-minds-and-memories/

The title is very descriptive.
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On 4/25/2022 5:30 PM, James Nicoll wrote:
> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories
>
> https://www.tor.com/2022/04/25/five-books-featuring-uploaded-minds-and-memories/
>
> The title is very descriptive.

I have read "The City And The Stars" and "The Ophiuchi Hotline". Both
are very good books.

Lynn

On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 5:31:03 PM UTC-5, James Nicoll wrote:
> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories

I've read the Varley and the Lafferty. There seemed to be significant room for a sequel to Six Wakes, but there hasn't been any indication of that.

Brian

On 25/04/2022 17.30, James Nicoll wrote:
> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories
>
> https://www.tor.com/2022/04/25/five-books-featuring-uploaded-minds-and-memories/

I've never heard of Nagata before, but the opening paragraph
of your capsule sounds quite reminiscent of Saberhagen's
Berserker universe.

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On 2022-04-25, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories
> https://www.tor.com/2022/04/25/five-books-featuring-uploaded-minds-and-memories/

Not a single work by Greg Egan in that list? Srsly?

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Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> writes:

> Not a single work by Greg Egan in that list? Srsly?

Low hanging fruit.

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On 2022-04-25, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories

Oh, and for anybody holding their breath for uploading to arrive,
the brain has just become even more complex:

"Hippocampal astrocytes represent navigation space"
https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pbio.3001568

Well, I guess the idea that glial cells might be involved in cognition
had been coming for some time.

"In light of their stimulating results, there are many intriguing
questions and further directions that remain to be explored."
That is, we just figured out that we understand even less than we
thought we did.

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Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> schrieb:

> "In light of their stimulating results, there are many intriguing
> questions and further directions that remain to be explored."
> That is, we just figured out that we understand even less than we
> thought we did.

Or, "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement"
(which should be a well-known quote).
>

In article <t495kc$krj$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de>,
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:
>Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> schrieb:
>
>> "In light of their stimulating results, there are many intriguing
>> questions and further directions that remain to be explored."
>> That is, we just figured out that we understand even less than we
>> thought we did.
>
>Or, "We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement"
>(which should be a well-known quote).
>>

Maybe using the brain to understand the brain is some sort of
incompleteness theorem thing.
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On 4/26/2022 8:09 AM, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
> On 2022-04-25, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories
>
> Oh, and for anybody holding their breath for uploading to arrive,
> the brain has just become even more complex:
>
> "Hippocampal astrocytes represent navigation space"
> https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pbio.3001568
>
> Well, I guess the idea that glial cells might be involved in cognition
> had been coming for some time.
>
> "In light of their stimulating results, there are many intriguing
> questions and further directions that remain to be explored."
> That is, we just figured out that we understand even less than we
> thought we did.
>
That's actually a pretty profound discovery, considering how little we
knew we knew already.

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On 2022-04-26, Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 25/04/2022 17.30, James Nicoll wrote:
>> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories
>>
>> https://www.tor.com/2022/04/25/five-books-featuring-uploaded-minds-and-memories/
>
> I've never heard of Nagata before, but the opening paragraph
> of your capsule sounds quite reminiscent of Saberhagen's
> Berserker universe.

I'm glad to say you have a bunch of good novels in your future, then. Note
that while Wikipedia claims _Sky Object 3270a_ is a standalone, it is actually
part of the Nanotech Succession series and comes after _Vast_.

-dsr-

On 27/04/2022 15.12, -dsr- wrote:
> On 2022-04-26, Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 25/04/2022 17.30, James Nicoll wrote:
>>> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories
>>>
>>> https://www.tor.com/2022/04/25/five-books-featuring-uploaded-minds-and-memories/
>>
>> I've never heard of Nagata before, but the opening paragraph
>> of your capsule sounds quite reminiscent of Saberhagen's
>> Berserker universe.
>
> I'm glad to say you have a bunch of good novels in your future, then.

Well, on your say-so, she's been added to my list. Thanks.

> Note
> that while Wikipedia claims _Sky Object 3270a_ is a standalone, it is actually
> part of the Nanotech Succession series and comes after _Vast_.

Just as the ISFDB shows:
<http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?53812>

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On 29/04/22 04:12, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
> On 27/04/2022 15.12, -dsr- wrote:
>> On 2022-04-26, Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 25/04/2022 17.30, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories
>>>>
>>>> https://www.tor.com/2022/04/25/five-books-featuring-uploaded-minds-and-memories/
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've never heard of Nagata before, but the opening paragraph
>>> of your capsule sounds quite reminiscent of Saberhagen's
>>> Berserker universe.
>>
>> I'm glad to say you have a bunch of good novels in your future, then.
>
> Well, on your say-so, she's been added to my list. Thanks.
>

In 2016 I read _First Light_ and have now forgotten it. My note at the
time was: "Mediocre with some interesting technology but struggled to
read and stopped at 80%."
I had reread _Pride and Prejudice" beforehand which may have influenced
my judgement.

On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:20:35 +1200, Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On 29/04/22 04:12, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> On 27/04/2022 15.12, -dsr- wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-26, Michael F. Stemper <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 25/04/2022 17.30, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>>> Five Books Featuring Uploaded Minds and Memories
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.tor.com/2022/04/25/five-books-featuring-uploaded-minds-and-memories/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've never heard of Nagata before, but the opening paragraph
>>>> of your capsule sounds quite reminiscent of Saberhagen's
>>>> Berserker universe.
>>>
>>> I'm glad to say you have a bunch of good novels in your future, then.
>>
>> Well, on your say-so, she's been added to my list. Thanks.
>>
>
>In 2016 I read _First Light_ and have now forgotten it. My note at the
>time was: "Mediocre with some interesting technology but struggled to
>read and stopped at 80%."
>I had reread _Pride and Prejudice" beforehand which may have influenced
>my judgement.

I struggled with /Pride and Prejudice/, but that was 'way back in High
School.

The instructor was appalled. He thought the writing style would make
it worth reading.

But then, he once assured us that, if you knew Latin, you could speak
Italian by just adding an "o" to the end of each word.

And waving your arms around a lot.
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