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* Re: Does Yeoman (TOS) = Ensign (TNG)?grantlandx
`* Re: Does Yeoman (TOS) = Ensign (TNG)?John Crane
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Subject: Re: Does Yeoman (TOS) = Ensign (TNG)?
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On Tuesday, 16 August 1994 10:20:31 UTC+3, Grant Burton  wrote:
On Sun 14-Aug-1994  1:44p, Dirty wrote:
D> Just watch "Under Siege."


HUH????


Back to TOS yes I read that there was no Officer / troops anymore.....
abviously they have taken a step backwards in TNG, as there is clearly
Officers and Crewman....
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Subject: Re: Does Yeoman (TOS) = Ensign (TNG)?
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On 06/30/2020 12:56 PM, grantlandx@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 August 1994 10:20:31 UTC+3, Grant Burton  wrote:
On Sun 14-Aug-1994  1:44p, Dirty wrote:
D> Just watch "Under Siege."


HUH????


Back to TOS yes I read that there was no Officer / troops anymore.....
abviously they have taken a step backwards in TNG, as there is clearly
Officers and Crewman....
--
  ___/\
/     \   jpicard@portal.apana.org.au  (>:-I... Captain Picard...>:-)
\___  /   Gippsland Trekors Victoria Australia
     \* <--'      Bev Crusher, 4th season, episode "Remember me?"
"if there is nothing wrong with me,
                               something must be wrong with the universe!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl5TUw7sUBs&list=RDMMB178SGJnTuo&index=8



No.  'Yeoman' is a job function, not a rank.  Most Yeomen hold the rank of 'Ensign' as this is a lower level clerical position - as opposed to say, Chief Engineer.

The TOS reference to 'no enlisted personnel' was in the book 'Making of Star Trek' and was stated to be in line with current USA Astronaut selection criteria - you had to be a military officer with other requirements - flight hours, etc.  Obviously, that was abandoned as we had civilian astronauts at the end of the Apollo program and continue to do so today.  Regardless or rank or origin, I assume everyone in Starfleet undergoes extensive training.

-J


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On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 21:09:50 UTC+3, John Crane  wrote:
On 06/30/2020 12:56 PM, grantlandx@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 16 August 1994 10:20:31 UTC+3, Grant Burton  wrote:
On Sun 14-Aug-1994  1:44p, Dirty wrote:
D> Just watch "Under Siege."


HUH????


Back to TOS yes I read that there was no Officer / troops anymore.....
abviously they have taken a step backwards in TNG, as there is clearly
Officers and Crewman....
--
  ___/\
/     \   jpicard@portal.apana.org.au  (>:-I... Captain Picard...>:-)
\___  /   Gippsland Trekors Victoria Australia
     \* <--'      Bev Crusher, 4th season, episode "Remember me?"
"if there is nothing wrong with me,
                               something must be wrong with the universe!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl5TUw7sUBs&list=RDMMB178SGJnTuo&index=8



No.  'Yeoman' is a job function, not a rank.  Most Yeomen hold the rank
of 'Ensign' as this is a lower level clerical position - as opposed to
say, Chief Engineer.

The TOS reference to 'no enlisted personnel' was in the book 'Making of
Star Trek' and was stated to be in line with current USA Astronaut
selection criteria - you had to be a military officer with other
requirements - flight hours, etc.  Obviously, that was abandoned as we
had civilian astronauts at the end of the Apollo program and continue to
do so today.  Regardless or rank or origin, I assume everyone in
Starfleet undergoes extensive training.

-J

I appreciate that you are talking absolute nonsense.  Non-commisioned will always be be dirty, smelly and inferior.


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