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* A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
|+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
||`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
|| `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
||  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJames Nicoll
||  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDorothy J Heydt
||  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
||  +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
||  |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
||  | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionScott Lurndal
||  | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
||  | | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionScott Lurndal
||  | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDan Swartzendruber
||  |  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
||  |  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
||  |  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJay E. Morris
||  |  `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Carnegie
||  |   `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
||  |    `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionAlan
||  |     `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decisionpete...@gmail.com
||  `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionBice
||   `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Woodward
|+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
|`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionMagewolf
| +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDavid Johnston
| | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDavid Johnston
| | | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJoy Beeson
| `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDavid Johnston
+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Carnegie
|+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
|`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
|`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
| |+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| ||`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| |+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
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| | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Carnegie
| | | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
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| | | |+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionAlan
| | | ||`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
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| | | | |  `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
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| | | | |    +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |    +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| | | | |    |`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |    `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
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| | | | |     |+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
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| | | | |     | +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |     | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | |     | |`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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| | | | |     `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |      `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
| | | | |       +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |       `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |        `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
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| | | | |          |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
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| | | | |          +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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| | | | |            `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRoss Presser
| | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
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Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

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 by: William Hyde - Sun, 15 May 2022 23:16 UTC

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 2:20:07 PM UTC-4, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> Paul S Person <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
> news:lr728h17iht5rb5cn...@4ax.com:
> > On Sun, 15 May 2022 01:20:57 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
> > <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Saturday, 14 May 2022 at 20:32:16 UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 6:46:39 AM UTC-6, Robert Carnegie
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Lots of critters hiss. Maybe it's a lingua francccccccca.
> >>> You didn't bother mentioning parrots. Yes, many creatures
> >>> vocalize, but only humans have *language*. Although our
> >>> hopes were once raised in respect of chimps, and even
> >>> gorillas, involving sign language rather than vocalizations.
> >>
> >>Parrots can use speech meaningfully. Human exceptionalism
> >>has retreated to elevating the elaborateness of human grammar.
> >>And mainly in English, I suppose.
> >>
> >>Indeed, I think there's a word that I would have liked to use
> >>instead of "elevate", but I don't remember it at the moment.
> >>It probably will come to me very soon. Or perhaps to you.
> >>Ah... it may have been "exalt".
> >>
> >>I bet that an elephant would have remembered that. :-)
> >
> > It is truly amazing, over the last 50-100 years or so, how many
> > "distinctively human" activities have turned out (when suitably
> > defined) to be anything but.
> I have noted the same thing. I can't think of a single trait that
> is uniquely human. There are many that we do *better* than any
> other species, but the only uniqueness we have is the combination
> of *all* of them.

"But weaseling is what separates us from the animals!

.... except the weasels."

William Hyde

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On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:51:00 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:

> The point is the legal definition of "human being".
>
> And an unborn child does /not/ qualify.

That's not the point at *all*. The legal definition of
"human being" is whatever some politicians chose to
write one fine day.

It could have excluded people with dark skin. It
could have excluded Jews. So the fact that it excludes
the unborn doesn't mean a thing - in moral terms,
however much it may mean in practical terms.

Before one can even _begin_ to rationally discuss the
abortion issue, glaring and obvious logical fallacies
like this have to be gotten out of the way.

John Savard

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On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:52:57 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:

> You wanted to know when personality came into existence. The answer
> is: no sooner than a human being does. And that is determined by law.

Personality is a function of the human brain.

When the human brain does something is a scientific fact that has to
be determined by observation. Not by someone's arbitrary decree.

What you've said here is just silly. If law makes right, then who can
complain that the Trump-packed Supreme Court is inflicting an
injustice on women by repealing _Roe vs Wade_? I mean, with that
kind of thinking, our politicians could just decree that women were
merely beasts, and a society like "The Handmaid's Tale" would not
be wrong.

Might does not make right, and neither does politics.

John Savard

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On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:

> So, in your diseased fantasy world, all Republicans are hell-bent
> on murdering all women? That *must* be your belief, based on what
> you've said.

Can't the people in control of the Republican Party just be
bent on making life worse for nearly all women?

John Savard

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 by: The Horny Goat - Mon, 16 May 2022 03:52 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:37:38 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 May 2022 22:24:02 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
><jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 9:20:15 PM UTC-6, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:00:18 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>Female mammals with offspring tend to act to preserve their
>/offspring's/ survival.

Hate to tell you this but that isn't a specifically a female trait.

Was I showing my "female side" when I saw my 3 year old son had
wandered off the curb into traffic on a 4 lane street and I ran
between him and the oncoming car screaming and waving at him to stop
then grabbing my kid and getting him to safety as quick as possible?

I knew I was risking my life but I also knew the driver was FAR more
likely to see a big guy like me screaming and yelling and waving his
hands than a 3 year old minding his own business and not disturbing
anybody.

(25+ years later he presented me with my first grandchild about two
weeks ago)

>Some overseas charities learned long ago that
>-- if you give the husband the money, he will spend it drinking with
>his friends
>-- if you give the wife the money, she will spend it on the kids first
>and then herself and her husband
>note that "the money" is often a grant to start a small business with.

That's a stereotype and far from a universal truth. I for one don't
remember the last time I went drinking in a public place without my
wife or daughter present. And I don't at all think I'm "domesticated"
in the sense you suggest.

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 by: The Horny Goat - Mon, 16 May 2022 03:56 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:40:36 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

>I should acknowledge here that, much as I would prefer a different
>outcome, the usual result of a mid-term election in a President's
>first term is, indeed, for the other side to take control of Congress.
>
>Up to 40 years ago, this was arguably a good thing, as it forced
>middle-of-the-road comprise measures. But then the Republicans went
>all ideological on us, and decided to "negotiate" like North Korea
>does: get what they can and take the rest if possible.

Oh? And the fact that modern Democrats egg on their most extreme
elements (the Squad's open anti-Semiticism is the least of their
"crimes") with zero restraint whatever?

I'm no Trump-ista but if you describe ALL Republicans in those terms
you have simply got to expect some pushback. No doubt there are some
wingnuts but it's not the entire party.

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In article <0a36344b-9dbc-4f5f-9495-87d091c7f26fn@googlegroups.com>,
kevrob@my-deja.com says...
> The bars in Milwaukee, prior to Wisconsin being whipsawed into
> raising the drinking age to 21 by the Feds denying states any
> highway money unless they knuckled under, had a constant
> stream of brand-new sailors given liberty from the Great Lakes
> station at North Chicago. IL was a 21 state. If they older, they
> could get served in the Land of Lincoln.

I went to college in northern Indiana in the 70s. It was very popular
for students to drive less than 1 hour over the border to Michigan,
where they could drink at 18+.

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 by: Robert Woodward - Mon, 16 May 2022 04:41 UTC

In article <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:40:36 -0700, Paul S Person
> <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
> >I should acknowledge here that, much as I would prefer a different
> >outcome, the usual result of a mid-term election in a President's
> >first term is, indeed, for the other side to take control of Congress.
> >
> >Up to 40 years ago, this was arguably a good thing, as it forced
> >middle-of-the-road comprise measures. But then the Republicans went
> >all ideological on us, and decided to "negotiate" like North Korea
> >does: get what they can and take the rest if possible.
>
> Oh? And the fact that modern Democrats egg on their most extreme
> elements (the Squad's open anti-Semiticism is the least of their
> "crimes") with zero restraint whatever?
>
> I'm no Trump-ista but if you describe ALL Republicans in those terms
> you have simply got to expect some pushback. No doubt there are some
> wingnuts but it's not the entire party.

The minions of Trump are busy driving out all sane Republicans by
calling them RINOs (of course, Trump and company are the actual
Republicans In Name Only).

--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
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 by: Ninapenda Jibini - Mon, 16 May 2022 05:06 UTC

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
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> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda Jibini
> wrote:
>
>> So, in your diseased fantasy world, all Republicans are
>> hell-bent on murdering all women? That *must* be your belief,
>> based on what you've said.
>
> Can't the people in control of the Republican Party just be
> bent on making life worse for nearly all women?
>
You can't even *define* "the pepole in control of the Republican
Party" in a coherent manner, so not, they cannot.

Just to humiliate you further, I will note that the current
chairwoman of hte Republican National Committee is a woman,
Ronna McDaniel. Is she leading the party in trying to murder all
woman, including herself? And that is, literally, the *only*
possible interpretation of your statement about having "an interest
in promoting conditions consistent with their own survival."

Also, Wikipedia lists 45 women who are or have been governors of US
states, 40% are Republicans. Are they *all* actively and
deliberately conspiring to muder all women, including themselves?

Do you really believe that?

You are, literally, mentally ill, John. Get help. Seriously. You
*need* professional help.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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 by: Ninapenda Jibini - Mon, 16 May 2022 05:26 UTC

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
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> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:52:57 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person
> wrote:
>
>> You wanted to know when personality came into existence. The
>> answer is: no sooner than a human being does. And that is
>> determined by law.
>
> Personality is a function of the human brain.

The human brain, at birth, has basically *no* functuion beyond the
autonomic ones.
>
> When the human brain does something is a scientific fact that
> has to be determined by observation. Not by someone's arbitrary
> decree.

People who study such things scientifically believe that you're a
fucking moron.
>
> What you've said here is just silly.

What you're spewing in religious nonsense. Religious, in that the
defintions you (wrongly) claim are objective fact are different in
differntly religions - every major religion has a different
defintion - and nonsense in that you don't even understand what
you're failing to parrot correctly.

Which is to say, just another day with a dumbass.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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 by: Ninapenda Jibini - Mon, 16 May 2022 05:28 UTC

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:36562c8d-1416-440f-a452-
b0eb739b0e24n@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:51:00 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:
>
>> The point is the legal definition of "human being".
>>
>> And an unborn child does /not/ qualify.
>
> That's not the point at *all*. The legal definition of
> "human being" is whatever some politicians chose to
> write one fine day.
>
> It could have excluded people with dark skin. It
> could have excluded Jews. So the fact that it excludes
> the unborn doesn't mean a thing - in moral terms,
> however much it may mean in practical terms.
>
> Before one can even _begin_ to rationally discuss the
> abortion issue, glaring and obvious logical fallacies
> like this have to be gotten out of the way.
>
And one must reconcile the fact that a) every major religion has a
different definition of when life begins, and b) imposing religious
dogma as law in unconstitutional.

As well as c) you're a fucking morong, and d) who gives a shit what
nonsense a fucking moron *Canadian* spews?

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote in
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> That's a stereotype

Stereotypes are all Quaddie can understand. Simple, bigoted
stereotypes. Especially where women are concerned.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote in
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> On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:40:36 -0700, Paul S Person
> <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I should acknowledge here that, much as I would prefer a
>>different outcome, the usual result of a mid-term election in a
>>President's first term is, indeed, for the other side to take
>>control of Congress.
>>
>>Up to 40 years ago, this was arguably a good thing, as it forced
>>middle-of-the-road comprise measures. But then the Republicans
>>went all ideological on us, and decided to "negotiate" like
>>North Korea does: get what they can and take the rest if
>>possible.
>
> Oh? And the fact that modern Democrats egg on their most extreme
> elements (the Squad's open anti-Semiticism is the least of their
> "crimes") with zero restraint whatever?

In a perfect world, we'd remove the quotes around "crimes" in the
case of those who have openly endorsed the violent insurgency after
the 2016 election.
>
> I'm no Trump-ista but if you describe ALL Republicans in those
> terms you have simply got to expect some pushback. No doubt
> there are some wingnuts but it's not the entire party.
>
People like Quaddie - except in the US, where they matter - are the
reason why *everyone*, even the most hard core lefties, expect the
Democrats to lose control of the Senate in November, and many
expect them to lose control the the House as well.

It'd be amusing if Trump's two failed impeachments get followed up
by a successful one of Joe "can someone change my diaper and givc
me my cookie and milk?" Biden.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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On Monday, 16 May 2022 at 04:56:35 UTC+1, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:40:36 -0700, Paul S Person
> <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
> >I should acknowledge here that, much as I would prefer a different
> >outcome, the usual result of a mid-term election in a President's
> >first term is, indeed, for the other side to take control of Congress.
> >
> >Up to 40 years ago, this was arguably a good thing, as it forced
> >middle-of-the-road comprise measures. But then the Republicans went
> >all ideological on us, and decided to "negotiate" like North Korea
> >does: get what they can and take the rest if possible.
> Oh? And the fact that modern Democrats egg on their most extreme
> elements (the Squad's open anti-Semiticism is the least of their
> "crimes") with zero restraint whatever?

Anti-what? Oh well, at least you don't consider it important
among "their crimes". Whatever it is.

> I'm no Trump-ista but if you describe ALL Republicans in those terms
> you have simply got to expect some pushback. No doubt there are some
> wingnuts but it's not the entire party.

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 17:40:15 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>
>> So, in your diseased fantasy world, all Republicans are hell-bent
>> on murdering all women? That *must* be your belief, based on what
>> you've said.
>
>Can't the people in control of the Republican Party just be
>bent on making life worse for nearly all women?

This is Democratic Party cant.

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 21:41:28 -0700, Robert Woodward
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>In article <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com>,
> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:40:36 -0700, Paul S Person
>> <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >I should acknowledge here that, much as I would prefer a different
>> >outcome, the usual result of a mid-term election in a President's
>> >first term is, indeed, for the other side to take control of Congress.
>> >
>> >Up to 40 years ago, this was arguably a good thing, as it forced
>> >middle-of-the-road comprise measures. But then the Republicans went
>> >all ideological on us, and decided to "negotiate" like North Korea
>> >does: get what they can and take the rest if possible.
>>
>> Oh? And the fact that modern Democrats egg on their most extreme
>> elements (the Squad's open anti-Semiticism is the least of their
>> "crimes") with zero restraint whatever?
>>
>> I'm no Trump-ista but if you describe ALL Republicans in those terms
>> you have simply got to expect some pushback. No doubt there are some
>> wingnuts but it's not the entire party.
>
>The minions of Trump are busy driving out all sane Republicans by
>calling them RINOs (of course, Trump and company are the actual
>Republicans In Name Only).

Personally I'm a Republican and I don't give the tiniest damn what
Trump wants. He had his shot, he screwed up by the numbers, he lost,
and I suspect if he tries again it's not going to turn out like he
planned. Be nice though if he kicked it in the near future so
everybody woult STFU about the moron.

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:50:56 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 May 2022 18:22:17 -0000 (UTC), Magewolf
><Magewolf@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 May 2022 08:58:49 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 15:46:55 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 12:21:24 PM UTC-4, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 10 May 2022 09:49:55 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:08:03 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> The /traditional/ time is "when the child draws breath
>>>>> >> independently of the mother".
>>>>> >
>>>>> >That may be the traditional time of birth, but you were replying to a
>>>>> >post about when personhood begins.
>>>>> It begins when God breathes into the infant's nostrils the Breath of
>>>>> Life, causing it to breath independently of the mother. As noted,
>>>>> providing assistance is allowed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to get so religious on you but, as should be apparent, this is a
>>>>> criterion based on religion. And not just Christianity or even
>>>>> Judaism. It was probably pretty universal, and may still be.
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>Not a good answer for those of us living in a republic that,
>>>>the opinions of some conservatives aside, does not privilege religious
>>>>values. Appeal to philosophy (specifically ethics)
>>>>and/or appeal to the biology of human development, but when you appeal
>>>>to religious tradition and/or theology you have colored outside the
>>>>constitutional lines.
>>>>
>>>>Once we started thinking that minds depend on brains, the idea that a
>>>>not-very-developed brain comes pre-installed with some sort of a
>>>>psyche/pneuma/soul seems ludicrous, I've never heard of any theory of
>>>>souls growing and developing the way the human body and mind do.
>>>
>>> I'm not trying to prove the underlying theological point, merely
>>> pointing to Quadi that that /is/ the traditional answer to when a person
>>> begins. And that it /is/ the traditional Christian answer as well.
>>>
>>> He hasn't responded. Perhaps he checked with a lawyer or on the web and
>>> found out that Canada also requires a live birth (including, say,
>>> C-sections) before the existence of a human being is recognized with a
>>> birth certificate.
>>>
>>>>Judaism and ("pro-life") Christianity have dissimilar views on the
>>>>personhood of the fetus in the womb.
>>>>
>>>>https://www.ncjw.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Judaism-and-Abortion-
>>FINAL.pdf
>>>
>>> Sound surprising familiar, but then, Christianity developed from Judaism
>>> so it is not surprising that the traditional Christian viewpoint would
>>> be much the same as given here.
>>>
>>> My feeling is to allow "pro-life" only to those who also reject captial
>>> punishment. Many Evangelicals are anti-abortion but not pro-life.
>>> Indeed, since the Supreme Court routinely refuses to use any of its
>>> appeals involving capital punishment, it must be concluded that even the
>>> idiotic five are not pro-life but merely anti-abortion.
>>
>>Why? What action has the fetus taken that warranted a death penalty?
>>Being born to the wrong person?
>
>Again, this is not the point.
>
>The point is the legal definition of "human being".
>
>And an unborn child does /not/ qualify.
>
>Hysteria does not help, not even one little bit.

The point is not what the law is, but what the law should be. If you
equate "lawful" with "right" and "unlawful" with "wrong" you really
should move to Canada or Britain or some other place that wasn't
founded by people who violated the law in major ways.

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:52:53 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 May 2022 12:29:41 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
><jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 9:58:56 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:
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>>> He hasn't responded. Perhaps he checked with a lawyer or on the web
>>> and found out that Canada also requires a live birth (including, say,
>>> C-sections) before the existence of a human being is recognized with a
>>> birth certificate.
>>
>>However, Canada's definition of birth does _not_ require the baby to
>>have taken its first breath.
>
>Canada grants birth certificates to stillborns and/or miscarriages?
>
>>But the definition of birth is about as relevant to the abortion debate
>>as the definition of weaning.
>
>You wanted to know when personality came into existence. The answer
>is: no sooner than a human being does. And that is determined by law.

OK, show us the statute or case law that defines "personality". Not
"person", "personality", the words are not synonyms.
>
>And no amount of handwavium will change this.

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 by: J. Clarke - Mon, 16 May 2022 13:21 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 17:39:11 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:52:57 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:
>
>> You wanted to know when personality came into existence. The answer
>> is: no sooner than a human being does. And that is determined by law.
>
>Personality is a function of the human brain.

If you have had cats, multiple, you will be aware that they have
personality.

>When the human brain does something is a scientific fact that has to
>be determined by observation. Not by someone's arbitrary decree.
>
>What you've said here is just silly. If law makes right, then who can
>complain that the Trump-packed Supreme Court is inflicting an
>injustice on women by repealing _Roe vs Wade_? I mean, with that
>kind of thinking, our politicians could just decree that women were
>merely beasts, and a society like "The Handmaid's Tale" would not
>be wrong.
>
>Might does not make right, and neither does politics.
>
>John Savard

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 by: Paul S Person - Mon, 16 May 2022 16:13 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 20:52:06 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:37:38 -0700, Paul S Person
><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 May 2022 22:24:02 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>><jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 9:20:15 PM UTC-6, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 13:00:18 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>Female mammals with offspring tend to act to preserve their
>>/offspring's/ survival.
>
>Hate to tell you this but that isn't a specifically a female trait.
>
>Was I showing my "female side" when I saw my 3 year old son had
>wandered off the curb into traffic on a 4 lane street and I ran
>between him and the oncoming car screaming and waving at him to stop
>then grabbing my kid and getting him to safety as quick as possible?
>
>I knew I was risking my life but I also knew the driver was FAR more
>likely to see a big guy like me screaming and yelling and waving his
>hands than a 3 year old minding his own business and not disturbing
>anybody.
>
>(25+ years later he presented me with my first grandchild about two
>weeks ago)
>
>>Some overseas charities learned long ago that
>>-- if you give the husband the money, he will spend it drinking with
>>his friends
>>-- if you give the wife the money, she will spend it on the kids first
>>and then herself and her husband
>>note that "the money" is often a grant to start a small business with.
>
>That's a stereotype and far from a universal truth. I for one don't
>remember the last time I went drinking in a public place without my
>wife or daughter present. And I don't at all think I'm "domesticated"
>in the sense you suggest.

1. Yes, that was drawn rather broadly. And may have confused different
results from different contexts.

2. I said nothing about your state of domestication. Indeed, I didn't
even mention the concept.

3. Overseas charities deal with cultures that are far more traditional
than ours. A lot this is cultural. But the behavior of moms-in-general
is observable, not just in mammals, but in birds. Otherthread, the
ability of crows to carry grudges came up, and I noted that I have had
experience with this. My offense was getting too close to the nest at
a particularly (to the crows) sensitive time.

Quadi appears to be following the path of first define "normal human
behavior" as "male human behavior", and then pretending that any
female who is considered "human" must be behaving that way. It is,
IOW, sexist.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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 by: Paul S Person - Mon, 16 May 2022 16:18 UTC

On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:12:30 -0400, J. Clarke
<jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 15 May 2022 17:40:15 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
><jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 12:08:42 PM UTC-6, Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>
>>> So, in your diseased fantasy world, all Republicans are hell-bent
>>> on murdering all women? That *must* be your belief, based on what
>>> you've said.
>>
>>Can't the people in control of the Republican Party just be
>>bent on making life worse for nearly all women?
>
>This is Democratic Party cant.

I don't think so. The most basic principle of the Traditional Family
Values they champion is, after all:

women are cattle

However, "all women" is a bit of a stretch. Any woman who is satisfied
with the 3 Ks (Kinde, Kirche, Kueche -- that is, Kids, Church,
Kitchen) will find the Republican solutions quite tolerable.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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 by: Paul S Person - Mon, 16 May 2022 16:22 UTC

On Sun, 15 May 2022 18:16:58 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>news:0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 15 May 2022 00:23:23 -0700, The Horny Goat
>> <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 13 May 2022 08:39:56 -0700, Paul S Person
>>><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>And the results remain to be seen as well. An article suggests
>>>>that the reason the Republicans in Congress aren't taking a
>>>>victory lap is because they believe they can win in November if
>>>>the issue is the Economy, but it if it overturning Roe v Wade
>>>>they may lose a lot of suburban women's votes. Although I
>>>>suppose that will depend on how quickly the various
>>>>single-issue (so far) repressive States roll out their
>>>>single-issue (so far) totalitarian regimes.
>>>
>>>Not to mention that they know darned well that they won the 2016
>>>election in large part by over-confidence by the other
>>>candidate. And would prefer not to do likewise.....
>>
>> I should acknowledge here that, much as I would prefer a
>> different outcome, the usual result of a mid-term election in a
>> President's first term is, indeed, for the other side to take
>> control of Congress.
>>
>> Up to 40 years ago, this was arguably a good thing, as it forced
>> middle-of-the-road comprise measures. But then the Republicans
>> went all ideological on us,
>
>In response to the Democrats going all fascist on us

Jimmy Carter went all fascist on you? Poor baby!

It is the /Republicans/ that have gone fascist.

And, BTW, "they do it" doesn't mean "I can do it too".

>> and decided to "negotiate" like
>> North Korea does: get what they can and take the rest if
>> possible.
>
>Like Obama's idea of "bipartisan cooperation" being for the
>Republicans to sit down, shut up and do as they're told?

The Republicans became well known for sitting down, making an
agreement that recognized some of their points, and then breaking it
at the first opportunity. Just like North Korea.

No wonder whats-his-name was one of Trump's best buddies!

>The left is *far* more dangerously extreme than the right these
>days. You refuse to see it because you believe you won't be among
>those sent to reeducation camps at the first opportunity.

Re-education camps aren't fascist.

The camps you are projecting onto the Dems will be extermination
camps, run by the alt-right under the aegis of the Republican Party.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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On Sun, 15 May 2022 20:56:31 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
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>On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:40:36 -0700, Paul S Person
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>
>>I should acknowledge here that, much as I would prefer a different
>>outcome, the usual result of a mid-term election in a President's
>>first term is, indeed, for the other side to take control of Congress.
>>
>>Up to 40 years ago, this was arguably a good thing, as it forced
>>middle-of-the-road comprise measures. But then the Republicans went
>>all ideological on us, and decided to "negotiate" like North Korea
>>does: get what they can and take the rest if possible.
>
>Oh? And the fact that modern Democrats egg on their most extreme
>elements (the Squad's open anti-Semiticism is the least of their
>"crimes") with zero restraint whatever?
>
>I'm no Trump-ista but if you describe ALL Republicans in those terms
>you have simply got to expect some pushback. No doubt there are some
>wingnuts but it's not the entire party.

Indeed.

But the left-wingnuts plaguing the Democrats are not, at least so far,
in control of the Party. This is why Manchin is so unpopular with
them. What the Dems need, BTW, is more candidates like Manchin in
traditionally Republican areas. Gotta give 'em something they might
actually /vote/ for if you want to win.

The right-wingnut named "Trump", OTOH, is (or appears to still be) in
control of the Republican Party. And then there are the
Representatives from QAnon ...
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:15:10 -0400, J. Clarke
<jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 15 May 2022 21:41:28 -0700, Robert Woodward
><robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com>,
>> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:40:36 -0700, Paul S Person
>>> <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I should acknowledge here that, much as I would prefer a different
>>> >outcome, the usual result of a mid-term election in a President's
>>> >first term is, indeed, for the other side to take control of Congress.
>>> >
>>> >Up to 40 years ago, this was arguably a good thing, as it forced
>>> >middle-of-the-road comprise measures. But then the Republicans went
>>> >all ideological on us, and decided to "negotiate" like North Korea
>>> >does: get what they can and take the rest if possible.
>>>
>>> Oh? And the fact that modern Democrats egg on their most extreme
>>> elements (the Squad's open anti-Semiticism is the least of their
>>> "crimes") with zero restraint whatever?
>>>
>>> I'm no Trump-ista but if you describe ALL Republicans in those terms
>>> you have simply got to expect some pushback. No doubt there are some
>>> wingnuts but it's not the entire party.
>>
>>The minions of Trump are busy driving out all sane Republicans by
>>calling them RINOs (of course, Trump and company are the actual
>>Republicans In Name Only).
>
>Personally I'm a Republican and I don't give the tiniest damn what
>Trump wants. He had his shot, he screwed up by the numbers, he lost,
>and I suspect if he tries again it's not going to turn out like he
>planned. Be nice though if he kicked it in the near future so
>everybody woult STFU about the moron.

No, no, no.

We want him alive, kicking, and in prison.

And that will take a bit longer.

Although he /does/ respond to $10K/day court fines ...
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

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Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
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 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Mon, 16 May 2022 16:28 UTC

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
news:0ot48hhadks9991i4unvbksedk8s18tt09@4ax.com:

> Quadi appears to be following the path of first define "normal
> human behavior" as "male human behavior", and then pretending
> that any female who is considered "human" must be behaving that
> way. It is, IOW, sexist.

I would argue that he is actually too stupid to be properly sexist.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

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