Rocksolid Light

Welcome to novaBBS (click a section below)

mail  files  register  newsreader  groups  login

Message-ID:  

You will be given a post of trust and responsibility.


arts / rec.arts.sf.written / Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

SubjectAuthor
* A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
|+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
||`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
|| `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
||  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJames Nicoll
||  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDorothy J Heydt
||  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
||  +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
||  |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
||  | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionScott Lurndal
||  | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
||  | | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionScott Lurndal
||  | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDan Swartzendruber
||  |  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
||  |  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
||  |  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJay E. Morris
||  |  `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Carnegie
||  |   `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
||  |    `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionAlan
||  |     `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decisionpete...@gmail.com
||  `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionBice
||   `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Woodward
|+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
|`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionMagewolf
| +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDavid Johnston
| | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDavid Johnston
| | | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJoy Beeson
| `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDavid Johnston
+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Carnegie
|+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
|`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
|`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
| |+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| ||`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| |+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | |+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | ||+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| | |||`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionMagewolf
| | ||| +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| | ||| `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | |||  +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionMagewolf
| | |||  `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | ||`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Carnegie
| | | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| | | |+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionAlan
| | | ||`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
| | | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| | | | |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |  `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
| | | | |   +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |   `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |    +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |    +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| | | | |    |`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |    `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
| | | | |     +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | |     |+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |     |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | | | |     | +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |     | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | |     | |`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| | | | |     | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionLynn McGuire
| | | | |     |  `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | | | |     `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |      `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
| | | | |       +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionNinapenda Jibini
| | | | |       `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |        `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | |         +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| | | | |         |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | |         | +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| | | | |         | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |         `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | | | |          +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | |          |+* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionQuadibloc
| | | | |          ||`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | |          |+- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | | | |          |`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |          | `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Carnegie
| | | | |          +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
| | | | |          `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |           `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | | | |            `- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | +* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionJ. Clarke
| | | | |`- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionPaul S Person
| | | | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
| | | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRoss Presser
| | `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionKevrob
| +- Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionRobert Carnegie
| `* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionThe Horny Goat
`* Re: A Poor Supreme Court DecisionDavid Johnston

Pages:12345678910111213141516171819
Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<1k588hhhrf9v40skc6fqb337kfuev8g8up@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73703&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73703

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx99.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jclarke....@gmail.com (J. Clarke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Message-ID: <1k588hhhrf9v40skc6fqb337kfuev8g8up@4ax.com>
References: <XnsAE946B9B697A3taustingmail@85.12.62.232> <4ocq7htaa6pmopea9j0i418rcskih7p10u@4ax.com> <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com> <0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com>
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 36
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 17:42:17 -0400
X-Received-Bytes: 2807
 by: J. Clarke - Tue, 17 May 2022 21:42 UTC

On Mon, 16 May 2022 23:56:43 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 9:19:25 PM UTC-6, The Horny Goat wrote:
>
>> On the other hand you are showing your bias when you excuse the
>> widespread rioting after the Floyd death in Minneapolis.
>
>While there was indeed widespread property damage and looting, there
>is a general consensus that to make a fuss about that in the face of the
>death of a human being is... indecent, and shows bigotry against black
>people.

That you and your cat agree on some topic does not mean that there is
"general consensus". And I suspect that the cat is just humoring you.

>Whether or not one agrees with that, therefore, one might avoid citing
>those riots as a serious problem to avoid being thought a bigot.
>
>Of course, even if one does not *excuse* the Floyd rioters in the least,
>one could view that as a local issue, concerning those who were directly
>affected (although that isn't reasonable, because that sort of thing doesn't
>_only_ happen in New York, what about the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles -
>and in *those* riots, a man was pulled from his truck and suffered life-altering
>brain damage from being attacked by a rioter) whereas the January 6
>event in Washington D.C. threatened *to take away the ability of the
>American people to control the government with their votes*.
>
>And riots like the Rodney King riots and the George Floyd riots are entirely
>avoidable - if the police would behave properly. And if so many black people
>weren't living in desperate poverty.
>
>I mean, really. Slavery ended, what, over 150 years ago? Why is race even
>a _thing_ any more?
>
>John Savard

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<sn588h93iniistbpemqe3urdqq26eoc1nm@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73704&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73704

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx99.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jclarke....@gmail.com (J. Clarke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Message-ID: <sn588h93iniistbpemqe3urdqq26eoc1nm@4ax.com>
References: <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com> <0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com> <1qh78htu85bd5pd8a2q1cbcql8rgdgo7i5@4ax.com> <kho78h5m8n7manjjc7h8lgf1atj3r0ok4s@4ax.com>
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 39
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 17:45:17 -0400
X-Received-Bytes: 2697
 by: J. Clarke - Tue, 17 May 2022 21:45 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 11:04:12 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Tue, 17 May 2022 09:05:15 -0700, Paul S Person
><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>I mean, really. Slavery ended, what, over 150 years ago? Why is race even
>>>a _thing_ any more?
>>
>>Because the sad truth is that racism is as American as apple pie.
>>Albeit now in only some areas.
>>
>>And will continue to be such until rooted out altogether.
>>
>>Hence the uproar over actually teaching kids to recognize it and call
>>it out when they see it, as opposed to treating it as one of the
>>"fnords".
>
>Racism goes far beyond ownership of other human beings. And I have no
>hesitation saying so though I utterly reject the racism of BLM and
>those who demand "equity" (equality of results) rather than "equality"
>(equality of opportunity). What I do believe in is removing barriers.
>
>I have no use for racial quotas and despise the politicians who
>prioritized certain racial minorities for COVID vaccination ahead of
>those known to be clinically extremely vulnerable. (As happened in
>Canada and no doubt elsewhere)
>
>I don't like politicians who play Russian Roulette with people's lives
>for dubious "justice" considerations. And I very much DO vote. (I've
>only missed one election in my life and that was a local election at a
>time when I was moving out of the area 3 weeks after the vote and was
>at that time already packing for the move)
>
>I'm afraid I am unfamiliar with the word "fnords"

Read the Illuminatus Trilogy.

Also, "fnord" has its own wikipedia entry.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<l1688hpt5fgodtib2jqea5d60l7ad43c14@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73705&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73705

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx99.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jclarke....@gmail.com (J. Clarke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Message-ID: <l1688hpt5fgodtib2jqea5d60l7ad43c14@4ax.com>
References: <6fd72efb-8d6e-4642-8e04-63d45a57f354n@googlegroups.com> <9e883c87-c15b-451a-9497-c09adc697dfbn@googlegroups.com> <bd3d28ee-d04b-443c-976e-2733adfb7f3cn@googlegroups.com> <XnsAE9782162E711taustincagmailcom@85.12.62.232> <3p728h9vpi02lht0qeikddnh6amn1t08j8@4ax.com> <XnsAE98722FA9D0Ctaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <36v48hpfgsqsuk9a8rrhs96jjqfko130ga@4ax.com> <XnsAE99C6415131Btaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0di78hls0usllsrrj6a79ef8mtq8i0soka@4ax.com>
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 80
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 17:49:31 -0400
X-Received-Bytes: 4254
 by: J. Clarke - Tue, 17 May 2022 21:49 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 09:14:54 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 17 May 2022 02:29:22 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
><taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>>news:36v48hpfgsqsuk9a8rrhs96jjqfko130ga@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 May 2022 18:13:30 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>>>>news:3p728h9vpi02lht0qeikddnh6amn1t08j8@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 19:47:20 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
>>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>>news:bd3d28ee-d04b-443c-976e-2733adfb7f3cn@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 6:46:39 AM UTC-6, Robert
>>>>>>> Carnegie wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lots of critters hiss. Maybe it's a lingua francccccccca.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You didn't bother mentioning parrots. Yes, many creatures
>>>>>>> vocalize, but only humans have *language*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rather thoroughly proven to not be true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Crows, for instance, have demonstrated the ability to describe
>>>>>>humans to other crows. Which means that if you piss off a crow
>>>>>>(they're quite vindictive), it will describe you to all the
>>>>>>other crows for miles around, and *every* crow will hate you,
>>>>>>even the first time they see you. And will pass it on to their
>>>>>>offspring, so every crown in the area will hate you long after
>>>>>>the one you pissed off is dead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having made that mistake in the past, I can confirm that it
>>>>> certainly /seems/ that way.
>>>>
>>>>There has been peer reviewed research. Some varities will also
>>>>not only *use* tools to dig food out of small places, they will
>>>>*manufacture* tools - out of artificial materials (wire).
>>>>
>>>>Somehow, it doesn't surprise me that you have a history of
>>>>tormenting small animals.
>>>
>>> Back when I was walking an hour each day for exercise, I walked
>>> too close to a nest during the season when they were raising
>>> their young. They didn't like it and attacked. And kept
>>> attacking.
>>
>>You deserved it, for tormenting them.
>
>I apparently strayed "too close" to the nest. Which I never saw.
>
>But they may have felt tormented, I suppose. More likely, they felt
>that their eggs or chicks were /threatened/. They have a
>territoriality range of at least 10 feet, possibly more.

Their leader was named "Jim" and they knew your political viewpoint
perhaps?
>>> This is not at all uncommon here, as the Burke-Gilman trail has
>>> many stretches with prime nesting locations on one side or the
>>> other or both.
>>>
>>>>> And, around here at least, they are /protected/, so can't even
>>>>> defend yourself effectively.
>>>>
>>>>Which says more about the intelligence of people than it does
>>>>about crows.
>>>
>>> Provided, of course, that the crows didn't figure out how to get
>>> themselves put on the list.
>>
>>If they did, that still says more about the intelligence of people
>>than it does about crows. Only more so.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<o3688hta68ir94vla2ruok5qm32ckpuank@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73706&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73706

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx11.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jclarke....@gmail.com (J. Clarke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Message-ID: <o3688hta68ir94vla2ruok5qm32ckpuank@4ax.com>
References: <6b1ba310-961a-41cc-a57e-ad9f2a69fad8n@googlegroups.com> <lcon7hhlfdfdfn6ujul83kksv0dahfldjk@4ax.com> <afa9e72f-298a-4d64-84e3-e39d5a8b3d84n@googlegroups.com> <sojv7hpp3lbga3vht8n9ljvu2nohf6ktku@4ax.com> <t5os0p$map$1@dont-email.me> <98828hdenq4jqstabbchjgrhpp77h0td7o@4ax.com> <t5rmf2$f5o$1@dont-email.me> <gkv48h93ilq8kgp6op38kgvc9demkha3ds@4ax.com> <g1r58h11l13e2qq9v7u7f3p7i2aqq6nott@4ax.com> <oii78h9om7r46j2e3psigdb44civfqt189@4ax.com>
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 112
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 17:55:23 -0400
X-Received-Bytes: 6026
 by: J. Clarke - Tue, 17 May 2022 21:55 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 09:17:37 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:29:00 -0400, J. Clarke
><jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:43:00 -0700, Paul S Person
>><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 15 May 2022 20:05:54 -0000 (UTC), Magewolf
>>><Magewolf@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 15 May 2022 08:50:56 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 14 May 2022 18:22:17 -0000 (UTC), Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 14 May 2022 08:58:49 -0700, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 13 May 2022 15:46:55 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 12:21:24 PM UTC-4, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 10 May 2022 09:49:55 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>>>>>>>> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 10:08:03 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >> The /traditional/ time is "when the child draws breath
>>>>>>>>> >> independently of the mother".
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >That may be the traditional time of birth, but you were replying to
>>>>>>>>> >a post about when personhood begins.
>>>>>>>>> It begins when God breathes into the infant's nostrils the Breath of
>>>>>>>>> Life, causing it to breath independently of the mother. As noted,
>>>>>>>>> providing assistance is allowed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry to get so religious on you but, as should be apparent, this is
>>>>>>>>> a criterion based on religion. And not just Christianity or even
>>>>>>>>> Judaism. It was probably pretty universal, and may still be.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not a good answer for those of us living in a republic that,
>>>>>>>>the opinions of some conservatives aside, does not privilege religious
>>>>>>>>values. Appeal to philosophy (specifically ethics)
>>>>>>>>and/or appeal to the biology of human development, but when you appeal
>>>>>>>>to religious tradition and/or theology you have colored outside the
>>>>>>>>constitutional lines.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Once we started thinking that minds depend on brains, the idea that a
>>>>>>>>not-very-developed brain comes pre-installed with some sort of a
>>>>>>>>psyche/pneuma/soul seems ludicrous, I've never heard of any theory of
>>>>>>>>souls growing and developing the way the human body and mind do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not trying to prove the underlying theological point, merely
>>>>>>> pointing to Quadi that that /is/ the traditional answer to when a
>>>>>>> person begins. And that it /is/ the traditional Christian answer as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He hasn't responded. Perhaps he checked with a lawyer or on the web
>>>>>>> and found out that Canada also requires a live birth (including, say,
>>>>>>> C-sections) before the existence of a human being is recognized with a
>>>>>>> birth certificate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Judaism and ("pro-life") Christianity have dissimilar views on the
>>>>>>>>personhood of the fetus in the womb.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>https://www.ncjw.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Judaism-and-Abortion-
>>>>>>FINAL.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sound surprising familiar, but then, Christianity developed from
>>>>>>> Judaism so it is not surprising that the traditional Christian
>>>>>>> viewpoint would be much the same as given here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My feeling is to allow "pro-life" only to those who also reject
>>>>>>> captial punishment. Many Evangelicals are anti-abortion but not
>>>>>>> pro-life. Indeed, since the Supreme Court routinely refuses to use any
>>>>>>> of its appeals involving capital punishment, it must be concluded that
>>>>>>> even the idiotic five are not pro-life but merely anti-abortion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why? What action has the fetus taken that warranted a death penalty?
>>>>>>Being born to the wrong person?
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, this is not the point.
>>>>>
>>>>> The point is the legal definition of "human being".
>>>>>
>>>>> And an unborn child does /not/ qualify.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hysteria does not help, not even one little bit.
>>>>
>>>>I was replying to the only anti-capital punishment people are pro-life
>>>>statement,pointing out they are not the same thing.
>>>
>>>It is my understanding that, if you check with the Pope, you will find
>>>that being pro-life includes all of:
>>>
>>>1) opposition to abortion
>>>2) opposition to effective contraception
>>>3) opposition to capital punishment
>>>
>>>Although not a Roman Catholic, I suggest that the Pope's definition of
>>>"pro-life" is reasonably authoritative.
>>
>>You don't actually know any Catholics, do you?
>
>I've known several, in various contexts.
>
>And, while they may not /agree/ with the Pope, I suspect that they
>accept his definition of "pro-life".

Accept that it's his definition, sure. Obey his orders, not so much.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<XnsAE9A9B34B634Ctaustingmail@85.12.62.245>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73710&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73710

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx10.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
From: tausti...@gmail.com (Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha)
References: <4ocq7htaa6pmopea9j0i418rcskih7p10u@4ax.com> <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <robertaw-3E6C32.21412815052022@news.individual.net> <hfj48h9dthoj94boq446d0tms068s56vij@4ax.com> <0e468hd3s76thp8nn1ia0cts4er3l46v2k@4ax.com> <qbh78hhldv7cjd8i7r4bjg3v7cgcg9m2q4@4ax.com> <5c588h565c85ht1bahk5sg5sq15vinq677@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <XnsAE9A9B34B634Ctaustingmail@85.12.62.245>
User-Agent: Xnews/2009.05.01
X-Suck-My-Dick: Suck My Dick
Lines: 52
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:15:26 -0700
X-Received-Bytes: 3111
 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Tue, 17 May 2022 22:15 UTC

J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5c588h565c85ht1bahk5sg5sq15vinq677@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 17 May 2022 08:57:46 -0700, Paul S Person
> <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:15:11 -0700, The Horny Goat
>><lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:15:10 -0400, J. Clarke
>>><jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Personally I'm a Republican and I don't give the tiniest damn
>>>>what Trump wants. He had his shot, he screwed up by the
>>>>numbers, he lost, and I suspect if he tries again it's not
>>>>going to turn out like he planned. Be nice though if he
>>>>kicked it in the near future so everybody woult STFU about the
>>>>moron.
>>>
>>>The Trumpsters would probably describe me as a RINO if I were
>>>an American - I'm very tough on the need to run a tight ship
>>>financially but am fairly tolerant on social issues. I'm NOT
>>>one for social engineering by pouring dollars on them.
>>>
>>>My point is that there are a LOT of people like me who will be
>>>aghast at the type of progressive who belongs to the "drunken
>>>sailor" sort of project financing. Similarly we're not the
>>>"hang em high types" - the point being that it is most unwise
>>>to assume there are clearly defined liberal and conservative
>>>positions that will line up obediently across the whole agenda.
>>
>>The problem is that the Republican Party has become an
>>ideological party -- and, yes, everbody has to believe the same
>>thing or they are RINOs.
>
> And your authority for this statement is?

Don't be questioning the monkeys that fly out of his ass, now. His
masters won't like that.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<cab229c4-7d7f-4bb0-958f-79fe40b7bd6dn@googlegroups.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73712&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73712

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:5296:b0:461:d3bb:ba01 with SMTP id kj22-20020a056214529600b00461d3bbba01mr9029374qvb.12.1652827809934;
Tue, 17 May 2022 15:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 2002:a05:690c:16:b0:2db:cfed:de0e with SMTP id
bc22-20020a05690c001600b002dbcfedde0emr28833283ywb.271.1652827809582; Tue, 17
May 2022 15:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 15:50:09 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <g4588hlmfdmq2gnju4qs4fr15sp808c7fb@4ax.com>
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=94.197.7.240; posting-account=dELd-gkAAABehNzDMBP4sfQElk2tFztP
NNTP-Posting-Host: 94.197.7.240
References: <a7ec5245-47f6-41eb-8e6c-03941bf2a9fcn@googlegroups.com>
<fas08htqo2rqqdf36s65snh64520jtti52@4ax.com> <d60e4f48-c70e-4261-aa03-1ec9234125e9n@googlegroups.com>
<XnsAE98715C98A4taustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <700bceca-04d4-41cd-bcdf-6ecbc00d4883n@googlegroups.com>
<hcj48hdm65uv76hg5vci749ij05t5q3bd6@4ax.com> <e3u48hlp0cqi8ulkkrg8slf3gsdg0p6tlj@4ax.com>
<mf568hd63vv4c70bdb31t789gb8t2cj83p@4ax.com> <d0h78hpm5ojiv5vtfkj0b6b9i1f87005au@4ax.com>
<g4588hlmfdmq2gnju4qs4fr15sp808c7fb@4ax.com>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <cab229c4-7d7f-4bb0-958f-79fe40b7bd6dn@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
From: rja.carn...@excite.com (Robert Carnegie)
Injection-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 22:50:09 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
X-Received-Bytes: 3124
 by: Robert Carnegie - Tue, 17 May 2022 22:50 UTC

On Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 22:33:56 UTC+1, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2022 08:51:46 -0700, Paul S Person
> <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:28:29 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:18:01 -0700, Paul S Person
> >><pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I don't think so. The most basic principle of the Traditional Family
> >>>Values they champion is, after all:
> >>>
> >>>women are cattle
> >>>
> >>>However, "all women" is a bit of a stretch. Any woman who is satisfied
> >>>with the 3 Ks (Kinde, Kirche, Kueche -- that is, Kids, Church,
> >>>Kitchen) will find the Republican solutions quite tolerable.
> >>
> >>THAT is an extremely low blow since while the term "Kinde, Kirche,
> >>Kueche" was coined by Bismarck, it is most associated with the Third
> >>Reich which some Democrats insist on describing their opposition as.
> >>(As does Putin in describing anybody - not just Ukrainians - who
> >>doesn't embrace him)
> >
> >Are you sure?
> >
> >IIRC, it was presented to me as the traditional German attitude.
> >
> >But I suppose they could have been mistaken. Or my memory could be.
> >
> >And, really, all I am doing is pointing out that it is possible that
> >not /every/ woman wants to have a career. Some may feel that
> >"housewife" is career enough.
> Some prefer it because it gives them time to do things that are
> important to _them_ instead of to the idiot they work for.

Or not.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<t61f40$1c9$1@dont-email.me>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73719&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73719

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: morr...@epsilon3.comcon (Jay E. Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:37:20 -0500
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 17
Message-ID: <t61f40$1c9$1@dont-email.me>
References: <e4e8173c-5d40-48e8-b88c-b8fc534e7cfcn@googlegroups.com>
<t4ruom$r55$1@dont-email.me> <XnsAE8C87A893201taustingmail@85.12.62.232>
<a3b57h13gck7gpqnnjral1mbnqlpmn955l@4ax.com>
<bhkd7hp5ul7uas9lbbo2fup229qgpg5te2@4ax.com>
<17qf7hta4pnsjd25v1f4s8uh5cenjlh8ht@4ax.com>
<0a36344b-9dbc-4f5f-9495-87d091c7f26fn@googlegroups.com>
<MPG.3ceb97d0d623b6ef9896b2@news.giganews.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 00:37:20 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="70e6af564fbbd9e1943aaa9ccf3ec035";
logging-data="1417"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18BVKFMoFE2zRsaBxlT1ovywBSNeXB/DHM="
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/91.9.0
Cancel-Lock: sha1:ezmB9Y4XNRkM1YYtc8ngsDdWDLo=
In-Reply-To: <MPG.3ceb97d0d623b6ef9896b2@news.giganews.com>
X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
Content-Language: en-US
X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 220517-2, 5/17/2022), Outbound message
 by: Jay E. Morris - Wed, 18 May 2022 00:37 UTC

On 5/15/2022 11:06 PM, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
> In article <0a36344b-9dbc-4f5f-9495-87d091c7f26fn@googlegroups.com>,
> kevrob@my-deja.com says...
>> The bars in Milwaukee, prior to Wisconsin being whipsawed into
>> raising the drinking age to 21 by the Feds denying states any
>> highway money unless they knuckled under, had a constant
>> stream of brand-new sailors given liberty from the Great Lakes
>> station at North Chicago. IL was a 21 state. If they older, they
>> could get served in the Land of Lincoln.
>
> I went to college in northern Indiana in the 70s. It was very popular
> for students to drive less than 1 hour over the border to Michigan,
> where they could drink at 18+.
>

I was probably a little further south and east of you. Same time frame
but we went to Ohio.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<6d7c6b0b-09c5-4077-b9e3-4150e139f280n@googlegroups.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73726&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73726

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
X-Received: by 2002:a0c:e906:0:b0:456:540b:4e87 with SMTP id a6-20020a0ce906000000b00456540b4e87mr22602145qvo.47.1652840373689;
Tue, 17 May 2022 19:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 2002:a0d:ff07:0:b0:2fe:ef33:fa67 with SMTP id
p7-20020a0dff07000000b002feef33fa67mr15029496ywf.246.1652840373355; Tue, 17
May 2022 19:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <jeiet4FghdrU1@mid.individual.net>
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2001:56a:fb70:6300:5f1:ed53:85c4:f791;
posting-account=1nOeKQkAAABD2jxp4Pzmx9Hx5g9miO8y
NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:56a:fb70:6300:5f1:ed53:85c4:f791
References: <6b1ba310-961a-41cc-a57e-ad9f2a69fad8n@googlegroups.com>
<lcon7hhlfdfdfn6ujul83kksv0dahfldjk@4ax.com> <XnsAE946B9B697A3taustingmail@85.12.62.232>
<4ocq7htaa6pmopea9j0i418rcskih7p10u@4ax.com> <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me>
<3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com>
<0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com>
<XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com>
<0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com> <jeiet4FghdrU1@mid.individual.net>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <6d7c6b0b-09c5-4077-b9e3-4150e139f280n@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
From: jsav...@ecn.ab.ca (Quadibloc)
Injection-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 02:19:33 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
X-Received-Bytes: 2295
 by: Quadibloc - Wed, 18 May 2022 02:19 UTC

On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 2:29:29 PM UTC-6, Chris Buckley wrote:

> In part, for the same reasons that one party is so strongly against laws that
> prohibit state and local governments from discriminating against, or
> granting preferential treatment to, individuals or groups on the basis
> of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of
> public employment, education, or contracting.
> (see California Proposition 16)
>
> It's in the Democrats' self-interest to do so.

You can't tell the difference between affirmative action and Jim Crow?

John Savard

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<8b1da734-4360-4bee-b5e6-6569ebd9a857n@googlegroups.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73727&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73727

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:4710:b0:6a0:110d:467b with SMTP id bs16-20020a05620a471000b006a0110d467bmr19024763qkb.179.1652840524839;
Tue, 17 May 2022 19:22:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 2002:a5b:f0b:0:b0:64b:a35e:fb69 with SMTP id
x11-20020a5b0f0b000000b0064ba35efb69mr22848899ybr.285.1652840524704; Tue, 17
May 2022 19:22:04 -0700 (PDT)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 19:22:04 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <5c588h565c85ht1bahk5sg5sq15vinq677@4ax.com>
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2001:56a:fb70:6300:5f1:ed53:85c4:f791;
posting-account=1nOeKQkAAABD2jxp4Pzmx9Hx5g9miO8y
NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:56a:fb70:6300:5f1:ed53:85c4:f791
References: <4ocq7htaa6pmopea9j0i418rcskih7p10u@4ax.com> <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me>
<3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com>
<0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com>
<robertaw-3E6C32.21412815052022@news.individual.net> <hfj48h9dthoj94boq446d0tms068s56vij@4ax.com>
<0e468hd3s76thp8nn1ia0cts4er3l46v2k@4ax.com> <qbh78hhldv7cjd8i7r4bjg3v7cgcg9m2q4@4ax.com>
<5c588h565c85ht1bahk5sg5sq15vinq677@4ax.com>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <8b1da734-4360-4bee-b5e6-6569ebd9a857n@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
From: jsav...@ecn.ab.ca (Quadibloc)
Injection-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 02:22:04 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
X-Received-Bytes: 2063
 by: Quadibloc - Wed, 18 May 2022 02:22 UTC

On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 3:37:31 PM UTC-6, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, 17 May 2022 08:57:46 -0700, Paul S Person
> <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

> >The problem is that the Republican Party has become an ideological
> >party -- and, yes, everbody has to believe the same thing or they are
> >RINOs.
>
> And your authority for this statement is?

You haven't been reading any newspapers for the last six years
or so?

John Savard

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<rhm88hd4tr40i54j9a4a50sj8o764bf267@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73729&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73729

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx97.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jclarke....@gmail.com (J. Clarke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Message-ID: <rhm88hd4tr40i54j9a4a50sj8o764bf267@4ax.com>
References: <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <robertaw-3E6C32.21412815052022@news.individual.net> <hfj48h9dthoj94boq446d0tms068s56vij@4ax.com> <0e468hd3s76thp8nn1ia0cts4er3l46v2k@4ax.com> <qbh78hhldv7cjd8i7r4bjg3v7cgcg9m2q4@4ax.com> <5c588h565c85ht1bahk5sg5sq15vinq677@4ax.com> <8b1da734-4360-4bee-b5e6-6569ebd9a857n@googlegroups.com>
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 17
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 22:30:44 -0400
X-Received-Bytes: 1708
 by: J. Clarke - Wed, 18 May 2022 02:30 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 19:22:04 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 3:37:31 PM UTC-6, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 08:57:46 -0700, Paul S Person
>> <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >The problem is that the Republican Party has become an ideological
>> >party -- and, yes, everbody has to believe the same thing or they are
>> >RINOs.
>>
>> And your authority for this statement is?
>
>You haven't been reading any newspapers for the last six years
>or so?

So which one do you suggest which supports this statement?

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<8jm88ht6f9hlgq7hlj6os7jmcglq5r7kf8@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73730&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73730

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx97.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: jclarke....@gmail.com (J. Clarke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Message-ID: <8jm88ht6f9hlgq7hlj6os7jmcglq5r7kf8@4ax.com>
References: <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com> <0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com> <jeiet4FghdrU1@mid.individual.net> <6d7c6b0b-09c5-4077-b9e3-4150e139f280n@googlegroups.com>
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 21
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 22:32:17 -0400
X-Received-Bytes: 2062
 by: J. Clarke - Wed, 18 May 2022 02:32 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 19:19:33 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 2:29:29 PM UTC-6, Chris Buckley wrote:
>
>> In part, for the same reasons that one party is so strongly against laws that
>> prohibit state and local governments from discriminating against, or
>> granting preferential treatment to, individuals or groups on the basis
>> of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of
>> public employment, education, or contracting.
>> (see California Proposition 16)
>>
>> It's in the Democrats' self-interest to do so.
>
>You can't tell the difference between affirmative action and Jim Crow?

You don't understand the issue. If black people ever achieved
equality they wouldn't need the Democrats to pretend to stand up for
them anymore. The Democrats have a vested interest in keeping them
down while throwing them symbolic gestures that don't actually change
anything.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<XnsAE9AEA3DF39D3taustincagmailcom@85.12.62.232>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73740&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73740

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx12.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
From: tausti...@gmail.com (Ninapenda Jibini)
References: <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com> <0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com> <jeiet4FghdrU1@mid.individual.net> <6d7c6b0b-09c5-4077-b9e3-4150e139f280n@googlegroups.com> <8jm88ht6f9hlgq7hlj6os7jmcglq5r7kf8@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <XnsAE9AEA3DF39D3taustincagmailcom@85.12.62.232>
User-Agent: Xnews/2009.05.01
Lines: 43
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 06:01:38 GMT
X-Received-Bytes: 2568
 by: Ninapenda Jibini - Wed, 18 May 2022 06:01 UTC

J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in
news:8jm88ht6f9hlgq7hlj6os7jmcglq5r7kf8@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 17 May 2022 19:19:33 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 2:29:29 PM UTC-6, Chris Buckley
>>wrote:
>>
>>> In part, for the same reasons that one party is so strongly
>>> against laws that prohibit state and local governments from
>>> discriminating against, or granting preferential treatment to,
>>> individuals or groups on the basis of race, sex, color,
>>> ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public
>>> employment, education, or contracting. (see California
>>> Proposition 16)
>>>
>>> It's in the Democrats' self-interest to do so.
>>
>>You can't tell the difference between affirmative action and Jim
>>Crow?
>
> You don't understand the issue. If black people ever achieved
> equality they wouldn't need the Democrats to pretend to stand up
> for them anymore. The Democrats have a vested interest in
> keeping them down while throwing them symbolic gestures that
> don't actually change anything.

If you actually *solve* the problem, there's no more need for anyone
to lead the charge against it (and get filthy rich doing so).

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<0r398hl86436lledmhg5ga1fat784jp9ai@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73742&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73742

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx43.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: lcra...@home.ca (The Horny Goat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Message-ID: <0r398hl86436lledmhg5ga1fat784jp9ai@4ax.com>
References: <4ocq7htaa6pmopea9j0i418rcskih7p10u@4ax.com> <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com> <0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com> <jeiet4FghdrU1@mid.individual.net>
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 75
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Easynews - www.easynews.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 23:25:52 -0700
X-Received-Bytes: 4784
 by: The Horny Goat - Wed, 18 May 2022 06:25 UTC

On 17 May 2022 20:29:24 GMT, Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> wrote:

>On 2022-05-17, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 9:19:25 PM UTC-6, The Horny Goat wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand you are showing your bias when you excuse the
>>> widespread rioting after the Floyd death in Minneapolis.
>>
>> While there was indeed widespread property damage and looting, there
>> is a general consensus that to make a fuss about that in the face of the
>> death of a human being is... indecent, and shows bigotry against black
>> people.

<shout on> GENERAL CONSENSUS MY ASS<shout off>

I'm sorry - neither was right and anyone who dares say the former
excuses the latter is beyond contempt.

To say there's a general consensus to the opposite is off on a
different planet and has no clue what the average person thinks except
the so called average person inside his little bell jar.

>As opposed to making a fuss about the 9-25+ people killed in those riots?
>You seem to be ignoring them.
>
>> Whether or not one agrees with that, therefore, one might avoid citing
>> those riots as a serious problem to avoid being thought a bigot.

If you are hellbent on thinking a particular person is a bigot or
whatever other nasty term you choose then you will do so no matter how
out of touch with reality you are.

>> Of course, even if one does not *excuse* the Floyd rioters in the least,
>> one could view that as a local issue, concerning those who were directly
>> affected (although that isn't reasonable, because that sort of thing doesn't
>> _only_ happen in New York, what about the Rodney King riots in Los Angeles -
>> and in *those* riots, a man was pulled from his truck and suffered life-altering
>> brain damage from being attacked by a rioter) whereas the January 6
>> event in Washington D.C. threatened *to take away the ability of the
>> American people to control the government with their votes*.
>>
>> And riots like the Rodney King riots and the George Floyd riots are entirely
>> avoidable - if the police would behave properly. And if so many black people
>> weren't living in desperate poverty.

With all due respect ALL of the above atrocities are entirely
avoidable as they were the acts of human beings who in the face of
terrible events wrongfully thought these gave them an excuse for
acting terribly. They don't.

As for poverty - there should be a general consensus that lifting
people up is a good thing. However that in no way excusing looting and
ipllaging - that was supposed to have gone out with the Huns and not
defended by the fans of those who commit thuggish behaviour and excuse
it by awful events around them. THERE IS NO EXCUSE AND THOSE WHO THINK
OTHERWISE ARE DELUSIONAL and deserve our sympathy and our mental
health experts not justification for their violent acts - and make no
mistake about it whether about persons or property these acts WERE
violent.

>> I mean, really. Slavery ended, what, over 150 years ago? Why is race even
>> a _thing_ any more?
>
>In part, for the same reasons that one party is so strongly against laws that
> prohibit state and local governments from discriminating against, or
> granting preferential treatment to, individuals or groups on the basis
> of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of
> public employment, education, or contracting.
> (see California Proposition 16)
>
>It's in the Democrats' self-interest to do so.

Which has nothing to do with the fact that discrimination in what is
said to be a good cause is still a violence against what your country
and mine claims to stand for.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<ed498htg9sl3u85u1ou6q1uu8c55roge4m@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73743&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73743

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx43.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: lcra...@home.ca (The Horny Goat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Message-ID: <ed498htg9sl3u85u1ou6q1uu8c55roge4m@4ax.com>
References: <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com> <0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com> <1qh78htu85bd5pd8a2q1cbcql8rgdgo7i5@4ax.com> <jeifqgFghdrU2@mid.individual.net> <sTTgK.19871$L_b6.2457@fx33.iad>
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 25
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Easynews - www.easynews.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 23:27:33 -0700
X-Received-Bytes: 2091
 by: The Horny Goat - Wed, 18 May 2022 06:27 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:49:28 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> writes:
>>On 2022-05-17, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 23:56:43 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>
>>> Hence the uproar over actually teaching kids to recognize it and call
>>> it out when they see it, as opposed to treating it as one of the
>>> "fnords".
>>
>>And exactly how are we supposed to teach kids to recognize it when we
>>can't even give a definition for it for adults?
>>
>>Paul, you have been railing against racism for years, calling people and
>>groups racist. But you have flatly refused to tell anybody what you mean
>>by racist. We have to guess.
>
>Calling Justice Potter, calling Justice Potter.
>
>And you're responding to John, not Paul.

You sir are confused by your delusion that the person you are trying
to reach inhabits the same planet since by his own words he clearly
does not.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<2g498hh3029vaanff2rbk571rfinkphmg6@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73744&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73744

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx43.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: lcra...@home.ca (The Horny Goat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Message-ID: <2g498hh3029vaanff2rbk571rfinkphmg6@4ax.com>
References: <a7ec5245-47f6-41eb-8e6c-03941bf2a9fcn@googlegroups.com> <fas08htqo2rqqdf36s65snh64520jtti52@4ax.com> <d60e4f48-c70e-4261-aa03-1ec9234125e9n@googlegroups.com> <XnsAE98715C98A4taustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <700bceca-04d4-41cd-bcdf-6ecbc00d4883n@googlegroups.com> <hcj48hdm65uv76hg5vci749ij05t5q3bd6@4ax.com> <e3u48hlp0cqi8ulkkrg8slf3gsdg0p6tlj@4ax.com> <mf568hd63vv4c70bdb31t789gb8t2cj83p@4ax.com> <ev488htlieipb215t2nkjsogik9cafbpru@4ax.com>
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 28
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Easynews - www.easynews.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 23:28:31 -0700
X-Received-Bytes: 2122
 by: The Horny Goat - Wed, 18 May 2022 06:28 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 17:30:54 -0400, J. Clarke
<jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:28:29 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:18:01 -0700, Paul S Person
>><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't think so. The most basic principle of the Traditional Family
>>>Values they champion is, after all:
>>>
>>>women are cattle
>>>
>>>However, "all women" is a bit of a stretch. Any woman who is satisfied
>>>with the 3 Ks (Kinde, Kirche, Kueche -- that is, Kids, Church,
>>>Kitchen) will find the Republican solutions quite tolerable.
>>
>>THAT is an extremely low blow since while the term "Kinde, Kirche,
>>Kueche" was coined by Bismarck, it is most associated with the Third
>>Reich which some Democrats insist on describing their opposition as.
>>(As does Putin in describing anybody - not just Ukrainians - who
>>doesn't embrace him)
>
>Which if he wasn't so dangerous would be a hoot, considering that he's
>a NIABN.

NIABN? New term for me...

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<d9392a3f-a81e-4618-8073-e1aa2142a092n@googlegroups.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73746&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73746

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
X-Received: by 2002:ad4:4208:0:b0:461:d262:7842 with SMTP id k8-20020ad44208000000b00461d2627842mr10533365qvp.113.1652860496124;
Wed, 18 May 2022 00:54:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-Received: by 2002:a0d:d747:0:b0:2ff:22b9:9281 with SMTP id
z68-20020a0dd747000000b002ff22b99281mr8966595ywd.305.1652860495809; Wed, 18
May 2022 00:54:55 -0700 (PDT)
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.mixmin.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.160.216.MISMATCH!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 00:54:55 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <MPG.3ceb97d0d623b6ef9896b2@news.giganews.com>
Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=94.197.7.240; posting-account=dELd-gkAAABehNzDMBP4sfQElk2tFztP
NNTP-Posting-Host: 94.197.7.240
References: <e4e8173c-5d40-48e8-b88c-b8fc534e7cfcn@googlegroups.com>
<t4ruom$r55$1@dont-email.me> <XnsAE8C87A893201taustingmail@85.12.62.232>
<a3b57h13gck7gpqnnjral1mbnqlpmn955l@4ax.com> <bhkd7hp5ul7uas9lbbo2fup229qgpg5te2@4ax.com>
<17qf7hta4pnsjd25v1f4s8uh5cenjlh8ht@4ax.com> <0a36344b-9dbc-4f5f-9495-87d091c7f26fn@googlegroups.com>
<MPG.3ceb97d0d623b6ef9896b2@news.giganews.com>
User-Agent: G2/1.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <d9392a3f-a81e-4618-8073-e1aa2142a092n@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
From: rja.carn...@excite.com (Robert Carnegie)
Injection-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 07:54:56 +0000
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
 by: Robert Carnegie - Wed, 18 May 2022 07:54 UTC

On Monday, 16 May 2022 at 05:06:33 UTC+1, Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
> In article <0a36344b-9dbc-4f5f...@googlegroups.com>,
> kev...@my-deja.com says...
> > The bars in Milwaukee, prior to Wisconsin being whipsawed into
> > raising the drinking age to 21 by the Feds denying states any
> > highway money unless they knuckled under, had a constant
> > stream of brand-new sailors given liberty from the Great Lakes
> > station at North Chicago. IL was a 21 state. If they older, they
> > could get served in the Land of Lincoln.
>
> I went to college in northern Indiana in the 70s. It was very popular
> for students to drive less than 1 hour over the border to Michigan,
> where they could drink at 18+.

The driving worries me.

We had isolated cases, pun not intended, when Scotland
restricted bars and alcohol sales in the SARS-CoV-2
pandemic but we have a mostly undefended land border
with England.

Also Scotland imposed a minimum price for alcoholic
drinks, and you know what we're like.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<jek93aFqu72U1@mid.individual.net>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73748&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73748

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!aioe.org!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: ala...@sabir.com (Chris Buckley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Date: 18 May 2022 13:02:34 GMT
Lines: 25
Message-ID: <jek93aFqu72U1@mid.individual.net>
References: <6b1ba310-961a-41cc-a57e-ad9f2a69fad8n@googlegroups.com>
<lcon7hhlfdfdfn6ujul83kksv0dahfldjk@4ax.com>
<XnsAE946B9B697A3taustingmail@85.12.62.232>
<4ocq7htaa6pmopea9j0i418rcskih7p10u@4ax.com> <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me>
<3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com>
<qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com>
<0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com>
<9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com>
<XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245>
<0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com>
<0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com>
<jeiet4FghdrU1@mid.individual.net>
<6d7c6b0b-09c5-4077-b9e3-4150e139f280n@googlegroups.com>
X-Trace: individual.net H30oZrKtTv+/oZTlva9/mgIsfqN+zevve6wQzFPzLwNVtt7KgZ
Cancel-Lock: sha1:x3a5oorYSTZfVI6Biq7u6uQum4g=
User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux)
 by: Chris Buckley - Wed, 18 May 2022 13:02 UTC

On 2022-05-18, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 2:29:29 PM UTC-6, Chris Buckley wrote:
>
>> In part, for the same reasons that one party is so strongly against laws that
>> prohibit state and local governments from discriminating against, or
>> granting preferential treatment to, individuals or groups on the basis
>> of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of
>> public employment, education, or contracting.
>> (see California Proposition 16)
>>
>> It's in the Democrats' self-interest to do so.
>
> You can't tell the difference between affirmative action and Jim Crow?

I'm well aware of the differences, as well as the similarities; I
support some forms of affirmative action in the present. But both are
racist, according to my definition of racist. (I'm not sure using
your definition of racist - you've made it very clear that YOU don't
believe that your definition of racist is correct (requiring actual
hatred or bellief in inferiority.))

I strongly believe that all people should be treated the same regardless
of the color of their skin or their race. You do not.

Chris

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<XQ6hK.4310$NMxb.4066@fx02.iad>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73752&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73752

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx02.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
X-newsreader: xrn 9.03-beta-14-64bit
Sender: scott@dragon.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
From: sco...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Reply-To: slp53@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
References: <XnsAE946B9B697A3taustingmail@85.12.62.232> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com> <0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com> <1qh78htu85bd5pd8a2q1cbcql8rgdgo7i5@4ax.com> <jeifqgFghdrU2@mid.individual.net> <sTTgK.19871$L_b6.2457@fx33.iad> <jeigfhFghdrU3@mid.individual.net>
Lines: 27
Message-ID: <XQ6hK.4310$NMxb.4066@fx02.iad>
X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 13:50:47 UTC
Organization: UsenetServer - www.usenetserver.com
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 13:50:47 GMT
X-Received-Bytes: 2065
 by: Scott Lurndal - Wed, 18 May 2022 13:50 UTC

Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> writes:
>On 2022-05-17, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>> Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> writes:
>>>On 2022-05-17, Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 23:56:43 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>>
>>>> Hence the uproar over actually teaching kids to recognize it and call
>>>> it out when they see it, as opposed to treating it as one of the
>>>> "fnords".
>>>
>>>And exactly how are we supposed to teach kids to recognize it when we
>>>can't even give a definition for it for adults?
>>>
>>>Paul, you have been railing against racism for years, calling people and
>>>groups racist. But you have flatly refused to tell anybody what you mean
>>>by racist. We have to guess.
>>
>> Calling Justice Potter, calling Justice Potter.
>>
>> And you're responding to John, not Paul.
>
>What a ridiculous, contradictory statement!

It was a joke, obviously.

And yes, the top attribution like had scrolled off
the screen, you were indeed responding to Paul.

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<XnsAE9B57ADDB504taustingmail@85.12.62.232>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73755&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73755

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx02.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
From: tausti...@gmail.com (Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha)
References: <4ocq7htaa6pmopea9j0i418rcskih7p10u@4ax.com> <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <robertaw-3E6C32.21412815052022@news.individual.net> <hfj48h9dthoj94boq446d0tms068s56vij@4ax.com> <0e468hd3s76thp8nn1ia0cts4er3l46v2k@4ax.com> <qbh78hhldv7cjd8i7r4bjg3v7cgcg9m2q4@4ax.com> <5c588h565c85ht1bahk5sg5sq15vinq677@4ax.com> <8b1da734-4360-4bee-b5e6-6569ebd9a857n@googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <XnsAE9B57ADDB504taustingmail@85.12.62.232>
User-Agent: Xnews/2009.05.01
X-Suck-My-Dick: Suck My Dick
Lines: 36
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 08:37:09 -0700
X-Received-Bytes: 2402
 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Wed, 18 May 2022 15:37 UTC

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
news:8b1da734-4360-4bee-b5e6-6569ebd9a857n@googlegroups.com:

> On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 3:37:31 PM UTC-6, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 May 2022 08:57:46 -0700, Paul S Person
>> <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
>> >The problem is that the Republican Party has become an
>> >ideological party -- and, yes, everbody has to believe the
>> >same thing or they are RINOs.
>>
>> And your authority for this statement is?
>
> You haven't been reading any newspapers for the last six years
> or so?
>
Which is to say, you're making shit up. Again.

Plus, of course, most newspapers are liberal propaganda rags,
unworthy to even wipe your ass with, and the convervative
counterpoints are (according to you) all liars, so by *you* logic, if
they *say* Republicans believe a certain thing, that's actually
evidence that they do *not*.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<XnsAE9B57F51A232taustingmail@85.12.62.232>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73756&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73756

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx02.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
From: tausti...@gmail.com (Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha)
References: <e4e8173c-5d40-48e8-b88c-b8fc534e7cfcn@googlegroups.com> <t4ruom$r55$1@dont-email.me> <XnsAE8C87A893201taustingmail@85.12.62.232> <a3b57h13gck7gpqnnjral1mbnqlpmn955l@4ax.com> <bhkd7hp5ul7uas9lbbo2fup229qgpg5te2@4ax.com> <17qf7hta4pnsjd25v1f4s8uh5cenjlh8ht@4ax.com> <0a36344b-9dbc-4f5f-9495-87d091c7f26fn@googlegroups.com> <MPG.3ceb97d0d623b6ef9896b2@news.giganews.com> <d9392a3f-a81e-4618-8073-e1aa2142a092n@googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <XnsAE9B57F51A232taustingmail@85.12.62.232>
User-Agent: Xnews/2009.05.01
X-Suck-My-Dick: Suck My Dick
Lines: 41
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Forte - www.forteinc.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 08:38:47 -0700
X-Received-Bytes: 2621
 by: Jibini Kula Tumbili - Wed, 18 May 2022 15:38 UTC

Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in
news:d9392a3f-a81e-4618-8073-e1aa2142a092n@googlegroups.com:

> On Monday, 16 May 2022 at 05:06:33 UTC+1, Dan Swartzendruber
> wrote:
>> In article <0a36344b-9dbc-4f5f...@googlegroups.com>,
>> kev...@my-deja.com says...
>> > The bars in Milwaukee, prior to Wisconsin being whipsawed
>> > into raising the drinking age to 21 by the Feds denying
>> > states any highway money unless they knuckled under, had a
>> > constant stream of brand-new sailors given liberty from the
>> > Great Lakes station at North Chicago. IL was a 21 state. If
>> > they older, they could get served in the Land of Lincoln.
>>
>> I went to college in northern Indiana in the 70s. It was very
>> popular for students to drive less than 1 hour over the border
>> to Michigan, where they could drink at 18+.
>
> The driving worries me.
>
> We had isolated cases, pun not intended, when Scotland
> restricted bars and alcohol sales in the SARS-CoV-2
> pandemic but we have a mostly undefended land border
> with England.

Somebody just published a study that concluded that dry counties have
a significantly higher fatal accident rate due to drunk driving than
neighboring counties.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
(May 2019 total for people arrested for entering the United States
illegally is over 132,000 for just the southwest border.)

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<545a8h9t75kddtggfg8vvbqds15vkjq61v@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73759&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73759

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: psper...@old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 08:45:51 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 24
Message-ID: <545a8h9t75kddtggfg8vvbqds15vkjq61v@4ax.com>
References: <fas08htqo2rqqdf36s65snh64520jtti52@4ax.com> <d60e4f48-c70e-4261-aa03-1ec9234125e9n@googlegroups.com> <XnsAE98715C98A4taustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <700bceca-04d4-41cd-bcdf-6ecbc00d4883n@googlegroups.com> <hcj48hdm65uv76hg5vci749ij05t5q3bd6@4ax.com> <e3u48hlp0cqi8ulkkrg8slf3gsdg0p6tlj@4ax.com> <mf568hd63vv4c70bdb31t789gb8t2cj83p@4ax.com> <d0h78hpm5ojiv5vtfkj0b6b9i1f87005au@4ax.com> <88d57e04-86d2-4aa8-92b6-27770c64d76en@googlegroups.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="17f4af39ec7e853912935399ce9daa2d";
logging-data="4781"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18lBwSThLTHO/hLygly85rCka8UlHJBzEU="
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
Cancel-Lock: sha1:2qTT56WSC3d8DD9JVO4ujSrD+qs=
 by: Paul S Person - Wed, 18 May 2022 15:45 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 10:07:56 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 9:51:52 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 20:28:29 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
>> wrote:
>
>> >THAT is an extremely low blow since while the term "Kinde, Kirche,
>> >Kueche" was coined by Bismarck, it is most associated with the Third
>> >Reich which some Democrats insist on describing their opposition as.
>
>> Are you sure?
>
>> IIRC, it was presented to me as the traditional German attitude.
>
>While I don't agree with him that it's a particularly "low blow", it is indeed
>true that _Kinder, Kirche, Küche_ is referred to as a phrase used by Hitler
>in a number of works, and is associated with him.

Which, BTW, makes it quite likely to be revived by the Republican
Party.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<2a5a8htulofes9s39dp1c4iv8a9t9tt1p5@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73762&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73762

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: psper...@old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 08:51:04 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 34
Message-ID: <2a5a8htulofes9s39dp1c4iv8a9t9tt1p5@4ax.com>
References: <XnsAE946B9B697A3taustingmail@85.12.62.232> <4ocq7htaa6pmopea9j0i418rcskih7p10u@4ax.com> <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <XnsAE9872C69C5FBtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <qau48h57r9ibvh3ivbb0g0hnnfq2f8b8o7@4ax.com> <XnsAE9961E6F2C8Ftaustingmail@85.12.62.245> <mn568hdlubc1ssntia7q017l77159nesb9@4ax.com> <XnsAE9A5C5EE9CDEtaustingmail@85.12.62.245>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="17f4af39ec7e853912935399ce9daa2d";
logging-data="7273"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Wodi+WS/ADOz8SPmKzE+MzF0iKtSojsU="
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
Cancel-Lock: sha1:ptZPvK5/q4ym9H0e1dlskGQcjKQ=
 by: Paul S Person - Wed, 18 May 2022 15:51 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 09:04:49 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote in
>news:mn568hdlubc1ssntia7q017l77159nesb9@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:37:27 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Is that the most recent Democrat you could come up with that I
>>>couldn't immediately point to fascist acts they've committed?
>>>Most likely.
>>>>
>>>> It is the /Republicans/ that have gone fascist.
>>>
>>>It is *Democrats* who are literally using the history of the
>>>rise to power of the Nazi Party in Germany in the 20s as a
>>>handbook.
>>>>
>> During the 1920 the Nazi SA were almost entirely engaging in
>> street battles vs their Communist counterparts.
>
>Yes. Perhaps you've hear of "Black Lives Matter" and "Antifa," though
>of course, you're not allowed to recognize their violent insurgency
>trying to overturn the 2016 election was exactly that.

Nice Trump (Putin) Talking Point : that the BLM protests were actually
about /the 2016 election/ instead of about /bad police behavior/?

At least you are separating BLM from "Antifa" -- that is, Anarchists.
The usual T(P)TP is that they are the same.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<7g5a8hp4kjv5phkfc2ujmtcg9p9c2jp657@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73763&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73763

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: psper...@old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 08:56:08 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 58
Message-ID: <7g5a8hp4kjv5phkfc2ujmtcg9p9c2jp657@4ax.com>
References: <4ocq7htaa6pmopea9j0i418rcskih7p10u@4ax.com> <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <XnsAE9872C69C5FBtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <qau48h57r9ibvh3ivbb0g0hnnfq2f8b8o7@4ax.com> <XnsAE9961E6F2C8Ftaustingmail@85.12.62.245> <mn568hdlubc1ssntia7q017l77159nesb9@4ax.com> <XnsAE9A5C5EE9CDEtaustingmail@85.12.62.245> <pao78hd34ug9ntojgu9s91ruki2mvfle6d@4ax.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="17f4af39ec7e853912935399ce9daa2d";
logging-data="9593"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18AKtcxm8U8+8F7fGvAjZJVCB0SVZtRsi8="
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
Cancel-Lock: sha1:L/ce6ZooFWmiCfhxhe9vnbIteb4=
 by: Paul S Person - Wed, 18 May 2022 15:56 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 10:57:20 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Tue, 17 May 2022 09:04:49 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
><taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote in
>>news:mn568hdlubc1ssntia7q017l77159nesb9@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Mon, 16 May 2022 09:37:27 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
>>> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is that the most recent Democrat you could come up with that I
>>>>couldn't immediately point to fascist acts they've committed?
>>>>Most likely.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the /Republicans/ that have gone fascist.
>>>>
>>>>It is *Democrats* who are literally using the history of the
>>>>rise to power of the Nazi Party in Germany in the 20s as a
>>>>handbook.
>>>>>
>>> During the 1920 the Nazi SA were almost entirely engaging in
>>> street battles vs their Communist counterparts.
>>
>>Yes. Perhaps you've hear of "Black Lives Matter" and "Antifa," though
>>of course, you're not allowed to recognize their violent insurgency
>>trying to overturn the 2016 election was exactly that.
>
>I was mostly disputing his mis-remembered chronology.
>
>My father was born on 30 January 1933 - I'm pretty sure I know who
>took power in Germany that day and what resulted from that.
>
>During the 1920s both Nazis and Communists were significant but not
>all that big minorities in Germany. They often fought each other but
>not normally the general population or even other political opponents
>(at least until the Night of the Long Knives and Kristalnacht which
>were of course 1933 and 1938 well after the 20s)

At one point, I was introduced to a theory called "Critical Points"
(or whatever the now-forgotten Greek term could be rendered as). This
started out great, asserting that history was a series of these
points, the really big ones setting up echoes before and after their
occurrence.

But as we got closer to the present, the events became ... less
impressive. The final example was, in fact, the street battles of the
20s, and the necessity of supporting the Socialist Workers.

From the Crucifixion/Resurrection to morons battling in the streets --
quite a decline.

This, IIRC, was one of the events that convinced me that being an
intellectual and being stupid were perfectly compatible.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<ut5a8hlkr8991auiqjbs2ccjbbvbdm4gka@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73764&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73764

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!news.freedyn.de!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: psper...@old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 09:03:18 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 52
Message-ID: <ut5a8hlkr8991auiqjbs2ccjbbvbdm4gka@4ax.com>
References: <t5jobd$occ$1@dont-email.me> <3kus7h93mnr62ef6gesga2jafccbicliqt@4ax.com> <qha18h9e7035s4pni55dmni0n0nac1allj@4ax.com> <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com> <0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com> <1qh78htu85bd5pd8a2q1cbcql8rgdgo7i5@4ax.com> <kho78h5m8n7manjjc7h8lgf1atj3r0ok4s@4ax.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="17f4af39ec7e853912935399ce9daa2d";
logging-data="13298"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18sUjVpXenIOmmf3w1fJ1onXL8CKBgrSaQ="
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
Cancel-Lock: sha1:JOPPnmqGir+kOxjiDJCbMTtUTOY=
 by: Paul S Person - Wed, 18 May 2022 16:03 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 11:04:12 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Tue, 17 May 2022 09:05:15 -0700, Paul S Person
><psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>I mean, really. Slavery ended, what, over 150 years ago? Why is race even
>>>a _thing_ any more?
>>
>>Because the sad truth is that racism is as American as apple pie.
>>Albeit now in only some areas.
>>
>>And will continue to be such until rooted out altogether.
>>
>>Hence the uproar over actually teaching kids to recognize it and call
>>it out when they see it, as opposed to treating it as one of the
>>"fnords".
>
>Racism goes far beyond ownership of other human beings. And I have no
>hesitation saying so though I utterly reject the racism of BLM and
>those who demand "equity" (equality of results) rather than "equality"
>(equality of opportunity). What I do believe in is removing barriers.
>
>I have no use for racial quotas and despise the politicians who
>prioritized certain racial minorities for COVID vaccination ahead of
>those known to be clinically extremely vulnerable. (As happened in
>Canada and no doubt elsewhere)
>
>I don't like politicians who play Russian Roulette with people's lives
>for dubious "justice" considerations. And I very much DO vote. (I've
>only missed one election in my life and that was a local election at a
>time when I was moving out of the area 3 weeks after the vote and was
>at that time already packing for the move)

The only one I missed after I returned home from the Army in 83 was
when they changed the Primary from September to August and I blanked
out.

I applied for voting by absentee ballot the next day.

>I'm afraid I am unfamiliar with the word "fnords"

You need to read /The Illuminatus Trilogy/. It explains a lot of
things.

Whether it does so correctly or not is, of course, a matter of
opinion.

Just be sure you have all three parts.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision

<596a8hdr5pa21h4so5qt4ga8fcn4uva2v3@4ax.com>

 copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/arts/article-flat.php?id=73765&group=rec.arts.sf.written#73765

 copy link   Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: psper...@old.netcom.invalid (Paul S Person)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: A Poor Supreme Court Decision
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 09:05:20 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 31
Message-ID: <596a8hdr5pa21h4so5qt4ga8fcn4uva2v3@4ax.com>
References: <0j728hphnknb04d76k5lh16hhj30c2cqtf@4ax.com> <9ni38hpfpv3h70fbpmgo4jbmhtsoslt26c@4ax.com> <XnsAE98E55B381CEtaustincagmailcom@85.12.62.245> <0t468h539kr8c7qm7ranor7n34tvl5f81n@4ax.com> <0d27c213-7174-4245-88f6-c1e99f8b4d4en@googlegroups.com> <1qh78htu85bd5pd8a2q1cbcql8rgdgo7i5@4ax.com> <kho78h5m8n7manjjc7h8lgf1atj3r0ok4s@4ax.com> <37990f78-9550-47f6-bec8-6fa519f682cen@googlegroups.com> <eb289197-66ca-40a9-83a7-cbb6b72e2df0n@googlegroups.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="17f4af39ec7e853912935399ce9daa2d";
logging-data="13298"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18uLOFbwe0mKZ9iYfcvEYTStHzMAUrB23Y="
User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
Cancel-Lock: sha1:Obt5QwIb2Ff/a7uoI/Pia3YTI0M=
 by: Paul S Person - Wed, 18 May 2022 16:05 UTC

On Tue, 17 May 2022 12:21:38 -0700 (PDT), "pete...@gmail.com"
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 2:40:34 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 12:04:18 PM UTC-6, The Horny Goat wrote:
>>
>> > I'm afraid I am unfamiliar with the word "fnords"
>> If the word "fnord" encloses something in a Usenet post,
>> it indicates the author wishes readers to forget that they
>> read it.
>>
>> So the comment had to do with the people objecting to
>> what they allege is teaching "Critical Race Theory" in
>> the schools and the 1619 Project and so on.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fnord
>
>Its a bit more complicaterd. It comes from Discordian books,
>such as the Principia Discordia and the Illuminatus! trilogy.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fnord
>
>In this context, PSP means that racism is a topic which many
>people prefer to pretend does not exist.

Indeed, one might almost say they intend to /cancel/ the very concept.

But not, of course, the reality.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

Pages:12345678910111213141516171819
server_pubkey.txt

rocksolid light 0.9.7
clearnet tor