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 by: Idlehands - Mon, 9 May 2022 04:44 UTC

On 2022-05-08 8:37 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
> On 09/05/2022 02:52, cruciverbalist wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 May 2022 22:14:59 +0100, The True Doctor
>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/05/2022 21:10, Idlehands wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-08 1:30 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>> On 08/05/2022 19:59, The Other Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> "The True Doctor" <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:nqednfpLMNQmjeX_nZ2dnUU7-bvNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 13:23, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out Netflix's
>>>>>>>> Sex
>>>>>>>> Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an excellent role.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's not a real man. He's an effeminate poof playing, based on RTD's
>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>> recent bigoted and sexist statements, an effeminate poof, since only
>>>>>>> gays
>>>>>>> according to RTD can play gay characters, and by extrapolation only
>>>>>>> straight actors can play straight characters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bollocks. Ncuti Gatwa plays a gay man in Sex Education so you're
>>>>>> assuming
>>>>>> he's gay. But he's never discussed his own sexuality. Regardless, the
>>>>>> colour
>>>>>
>>>>> That means he's gay. He talks like an effeminate gay, because that's
>>>>> what he is. Just look at the way he was dressed for the press, bearing
>>>>> his bare chest through an open lapelled jacket.
>>>>>
>>>>>> of his skin and his sexuality have absolutely nothing to do with his
>>>>>> ability
>>>>>> as an actor.
>>>>>
>>>>> His skin colour and his sexuality were the ONLY reason he was cast.
>>>>>
>>>>> You've got to be stupid and naive if you think he was cast based just
>>>>> on merit. The BBC had already decided he had to be black and RTD would
>>>>> only come back if he could make the Doctor gay.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a bigot. Please stop watching Doctor Who. You're an
>>>>>> embarrassment to
>>>>>
>>>>> You are the bigot along with this entire show's producers. Doctor Who
>>>>> ended in 2017. The Doctor was a white British male heterosexual
>>>>> character for over 50 years, and people are entitled to desire it to
>>>>> stay that way. Only a racist would think being white, British, male,
>>>>> and heterosexual was not good enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you think casting a gay actor is going to bring back female
>>>>> viewers and fans? How do you think it is going to attract straight
>>>>> male fans? Where's the romance going to be with the companion, which
>>>>> was the only thing that sold any of RTD's series. No, wait, he's going
>>>>> to make the companion homosexual too.
>>>>>
>>>>> And then there's his Rwandan accent. How does that make him British?
>>>>>
>>>>>> the rest of us (Yads excepted). Stick to what you're good at - making
>>>>>> pizzas.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a stupid bigoted imbecile. This fucking sexist and racist
>>>>> wokery and identity politics has destroyed everything. Doctor Who,
>>>>> Star Trek, Star Wars, and LOTR have all been totally destroyed to
>>>>> server the narrow minded bigoted self interest of a bunch far left
>>>>> political activists and sexual perverts! They're only writing for
>>>>> themselves and people that think like them or they want to think like
>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's not recovering from ratings of only 2.2 million after this.
>>>>>
>>>>> RTD could have signalled the wokery would end, but instead there will
>>>>> be even more of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Adventures of the Timeless Child monster continues for the moment.
>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wow, it takes a lot of effort to maintain such an ignorant state in
>>>> this
>>>> day and age of instant communication, you should use such energy for
>>>> something better.
>>>
>>> You are the one who is ignorant. 90% of the audience of Doctor Who is
>>> heterosexual and 2/3 of the audience is male.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why do gay people scare you so bad?  Is your sexual orientation so
>>>> fragile or is it living in denial that is causing you all this grief.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What justification is there in inserting gay characters and changing the
>>> sexuality of existing ones in existing shows where 90% of the audience
>>> is heterosexual? There isn't any. What this amounts to, especially when
>>> it involves family shows like Doctor Who being taken over and
>>> repurposed, is sexual grooming and predation.
>>
>> Aggie, I am going to concede one point to you. I am a dyed in the wool
>> liberal going all the way back to the 1960s. Yet even I find the
>> madness of the current far left and the woke culture irritating as all
>> hell.
>>
>> That said, listening to you spout far right MAGA conspiracy shit is
>
> I'm not a Marxist and don't support Corporatism being used to control
> industry without the state actually owning it, so I can't be far right.
> I'm a centrist. Industry should neither be owned nor controlled by the
> state. Research where the term far right comes from. It only applies to
> Marxists and Marxist sympathisers like Adolf Hitler and Mussolini who
> opposed state ownership of industry but believe the state should still
> control it, and no one else. People who stood in the centre of politics
> at the time of Hitler were called Centrists, or Social Democrats by
> those on the left, and bourgeois by the far left Marxists. Karl Marx
> himself was a Jew hating bigot.
>
>> even more offensive. You claim to speak the truth, but that far right
>> MAGA lunacy is so far off the rails and so far from the truth that it
>> would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous.
>>
>
> The so called far right is exactly the same as the far left. Both are
> opposing factions of Marxism by historical definition.
>
>> Reread some of what you write. It doesn't come across as well thought
>> out ideas and concepts; it comes across as political invective and the
>> screed of a madman. You not only come off as a one trick pony, you
>> come off as a mentally ill and a self-loathing homosexual. Think about
>> it, dude (assuming you are a dude).
>
> And now you lose all credibly completely.
>
> I didn't watch Doctor Who to have it taken over and used to indoctrinate
> people with the showrunner's homosexual agenda, especially when 90% of
> the audience is not gay. Opposing this propaganda and the sexual
> grooming of children which it amounts to does not make you gay, insane,
> or self loathing.
>
> What makes RTD think that the majority of the audience wants the Doctor
> to be turned gay? What makes him think that the majority want to be
> preached to about race, gender, and identity politics?
>
> Who the fuck does RTD think that this agenda appeals to?
>
> RTD isn't interested in the viewers or fans, he's only interest is
> himself and his divisive far left wing politics.
>

The moment you claimed Hitler was a Marxist sympathiser you invalidate
every bit of this post.

--
The very powerful and very stupid have one thing in common. They don't
alter their views to match the facts.

They alter the facts to match their views.

Doctor Who The Face of Evil, Part 4, January 22, 1977
(Binky couldn't name the episode)


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 by: The True Doctor - Mon, 9 May 2022 05:00 UTC

On 09/05/2022 05:42, Idlehands wrote:
> On 2022-05-08 8:20 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 09/05/2022 02:45, Idlehands wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-08 3:14 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>> On 08/05/2022 21:10, Idlehands wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-08 1:30 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 19:59, The Other Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>> "The True Doctor" <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:nqednfpLMNQmjeX_nZ2dnUU7-bvNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 13:23, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out
>>>>>>>>> Netflix's Sex
>>>>>>>>> Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an excellent role.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's not a real man. He's an effeminate poof playing, based on
>>>>>>>> RTD's most
>>>>>>>> recent bigoted and sexist statements, an effeminate poof, since
>>>>>>>> only gays
>>>>>>>> according to RTD can play gay characters, and by extrapolation only
>>>>>>>> straight actors can play straight characters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bollocks. Ncuti Gatwa plays a gay man in Sex Education so you're
>>>>>>> assuming
>>>>>>> he's gay. But he's never discussed his own sexuality. Regardless,
>>>>>>> the colour
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That means he's gay. He talks like an effeminate gay, because
>>>>>> that's what he is. Just look at the way he was dressed for the
>>>>>> press, bearing his bare chest through an open lapelled jacket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of his skin and his sexuality have absolutely nothing to do with
>>>>>>> his ability
>>>>>>> as an actor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His skin colour and his sexuality were the ONLY reason he was cast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've got to be stupid and naive if you think he was cast based
>>>>>> just on merit. The BBC had already decided he had to be black and
>>>>>> RTD would only come back if he could make the Doctor gay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a bigot. Please stop watching Doctor Who. You're an
>>>>>>> embarrassment to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are the bigot along with this entire show's producers. Doctor
>>>>>> Who ended in 2017. The Doctor was a white British male
>>>>>> heterosexual character for over 50 years, and people are entitled
>>>>>> to desire it to stay that way. Only a racist would think being
>>>>>> white, British, male, and heterosexual was not good enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you think casting a gay actor is going to bring back female
>>>>>> viewers and fans? How do you think it is going to attract straight
>>>>>> male fans? Where's the romance going to be with the companion,
>>>>>> which was the only thing that sold any of RTD's series. No, wait,
>>>>>> he's going to make the companion homosexual too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then there's his Rwandan accent. How does that make him British?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the rest of us (Yads excepted). Stick to what you're good at -
>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>> pizzas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a stupid bigoted imbecile. This fucking sexist and racist
>>>>>> wokery and identity politics has destroyed everything. Doctor Who,
>>>>>> Star Trek, Star Wars, and LOTR have all been totally destroyed to
>>>>>> server the narrow minded bigoted self interest of a bunch far left
>>>>>> political activists and sexual perverts! They're only writing for
>>>>>> themselves and people that think like them or they want to think
>>>>>> like them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's not recovering from ratings of only 2.2 million after this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RTD could have signalled the wokery would end, but instead there
>>>>>> will be even more of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Adventures of the Timeless Child monster continues for the
>>>>>> moment. Doctor Who ended in 2017.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, it takes a lot of effort to maintain such an ignorant state in
>>>>> this day and age of instant communication, you should use such
>>>>> energy for something better.
>>>>
>>>> You are the one who is ignorant. 90% of the audience of Doctor Who
>>>> is heterosexual and 2/3 of the audience is male.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do gay people scare you so bad?  Is your sexual orientation so
>>>>> fragile or is it living in denial that is causing you all this grief.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What justification is there in inserting gay characters and changing
>>>> the sexuality of existing ones in existing shows where 90% of the
>>>> audience is heterosexual? There isn't any. What this amounts to,
>>>> especially when it involves family shows like Doctor Who being taken
>>>> over and repurposed, is sexual grooming and predation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does your ass hurt from all the stats you like to pull from it?
>>>
>>> I think the best justification is watching you prove what a
>>> misogynistic racist homophobe you really are.
>>>
>>
>> That's the only thing you woke bigots can ever say to anyone who has a
>> different opinion to you, because you can't defend a single thing that
>> you claim believe in.
>>
>>> Conservatives love throwing the words "grooming" and "predator"
>>> around to try and distract people from their own behaviour.  Thanks
>>> for joining the stereotype.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not the one hijacking a TV show and repurposing it to spread
>> homosexual propaganda to a predominately heterosexual audience.
>>
>
> Still waiting for you to prove this ridiculous claim about the audience,
> and your attempts to turn your words onto myself is a perfect example of
> a bully attempting to gaslight his way our of the hole he has dug himself.
>
>
>

You are the one bulling people who don't agree with your woke ideology.
I'm still waiting for you to justify it using a logical and rational
argument. Who should an audience which is 90% heterosexual be subjected
to a gay agenda and have their show hijacked and the main protagonist
who has been heterosexual for over 50 years turned gay? How is that
supposed to appeal to them? Who is this show supposed to be for? Why
should the majority be made to suffer in order to appease a minority of
extreme left wing bigots who want everything to be about them and only them?

--
The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw

"To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it
stands for." -William Shatner

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 by: The True Doctor - Mon, 9 May 2022 05:03 UTC

On 09/05/2022 05:44, Idlehands wrote:
> On 2022-05-08 8:37 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 09/05/2022 02:52, cruciverbalist wrote:
>>> On Sun, 8 May 2022 22:14:59 +0100, The True Doctor
>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 08/05/2022 21:10, Idlehands wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-08 1:30 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 19:59, The Other Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>> "The True Doctor" <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:nqednfpLMNQmjeX_nZ2dnUU7-bvNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 13:23, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out
>>>>>>>>> Netflix's Sex
>>>>>>>>> Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an excellent role.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's not a real man. He's an effeminate poof playing, based on
>>>>>>>> RTD's
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> recent bigoted and sexist statements, an effeminate poof, since
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> gays
>>>>>>>> according to RTD can play gay characters, and by extrapolation only
>>>>>>>> straight actors can play straight characters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bollocks. Ncuti Gatwa plays a gay man in Sex Education so you're
>>>>>>> assuming
>>>>>>> he's gay. But he's never discussed his own sexuality. Regardless,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> colour
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That means he's gay. He talks like an effeminate gay, because that's
>>>>>> what he is. Just look at the way he was dressed for the press,
>>>>>> bearing
>>>>>> his bare chest through an open lapelled jacket.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of his skin and his sexuality have absolutely nothing to do with his
>>>>>>> ability
>>>>>>> as an actor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His skin colour and his sexuality were the ONLY reason he was cast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've got to be stupid and naive if you think he was cast based just
>>>>>> on merit. The BBC had already decided he had to be black and RTD
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> only come back if he could make the Doctor gay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a bigot. Please stop watching Doctor Who. You're an
>>>>>>> embarrassment to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are the bigot along with this entire show's producers. Doctor Who
>>>>>> ended in 2017. The Doctor was a white British male heterosexual
>>>>>> character for over 50 years, and people are entitled to desire it to
>>>>>> stay that way. Only a racist would think being white, British, male,
>>>>>> and heterosexual was not good enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you think casting a gay actor is going to bring back female
>>>>>> viewers and fans? How do you think it is going to attract straight
>>>>>> male fans? Where's the romance going to be with the companion, which
>>>>>> was the only thing that sold any of RTD's series. No, wait, he's
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to make the companion homosexual too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then there's his Rwandan accent. How does that make him British?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the rest of us (Yads excepted). Stick to what you're good at -
>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>> pizzas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a stupid bigoted imbecile. This fucking sexist and racist
>>>>>> wokery and identity politics has destroyed everything. Doctor Who,
>>>>>> Star Trek, Star Wars, and LOTR have all been totally destroyed to
>>>>>> server the narrow minded bigoted self interest of a bunch far left
>>>>>> political activists and sexual perverts! They're only writing for
>>>>>> themselves and people that think like them or they want to think like
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's not recovering from ratings of only 2.2 million after this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RTD could have signalled the wokery would end, but instead there will
>>>>>> be even more of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Adventures of the Timeless Child monster continues for the
>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, it takes a lot of effort to maintain such an ignorant state in
>>>>> this
>>>>> day and age of instant communication, you should use such energy for
>>>>> something better.
>>>>
>>>> You are the one who is ignorant. 90% of the audience of Doctor Who is
>>>> heterosexual and 2/3 of the audience is male.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do gay people scare you so bad?  Is your sexual orientation so
>>>>> fragile or is it living in denial that is causing you all this grief.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What justification is there in inserting gay characters and changing
>>>> the
>>>> sexuality of existing ones in existing shows where 90% of the audience
>>>> is heterosexual? There isn't any. What this amounts to, especially when
>>>> it involves family shows like Doctor Who being taken over and
>>>> repurposed, is sexual grooming and predation.
>>>
>>> Aggie, I am going to concede one point to you. I am a dyed in the wool
>>> liberal going all the way back to the 1960s. Yet even I find the
>>> madness of the current far left and the woke culture irritating as all
>>> hell.
>>>
>>> That said, listening to you spout far right MAGA conspiracy shit is
>>
>> I'm not a Marxist and don't support Corporatism being used to control
>> industry without the state actually owning it, so I can't be far
>> right. I'm a centrist. Industry should neither be owned nor controlled
>> by the state. Research where the term far right comes from. It only
>> applies to Marxists and Marxist sympathisers like Adolf Hitler and
>> Mussolini who opposed state ownership of industry but believe the
>> state should still control it, and no one else. People who stood in
>> the centre of politics at the time of Hitler were called Centrists, or
>> Social Democrats by those on the left, and bourgeois by the far left
>> Marxists. Karl Marx himself was a Jew hating bigot.
>>
>>> even more offensive. You claim to speak the truth, but that far right
>>> MAGA lunacy is so far off the rails and so far from the truth that it
>>> would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous.
>>>
>>
>> The so called far right is exactly the same as the far left. Both are
>> opposing factions of Marxism by historical definition.
>>
>>> Reread some of what you write. It doesn't come across as well thought
>>> out ideas and concepts; it comes across as political invective and the
>>> screed of a madman. You not only come off as a one trick pony, you
>>> come off as a mentally ill and a self-loathing homosexual. Think about
>>> it, dude (assuming you are a dude).
>>
>> And now you lose all credibly completely.
>>
>> I didn't watch Doctor Who to have it taken over and used to
>> indoctrinate people with the showrunner's homosexual agenda,
>> especially when 90% of the audience is not gay. Opposing this
>> propaganda and the sexual grooming of children which it amounts to
>> does not make you gay, insane, or self loathing.
>>
>> What makes RTD think that the majority of the audience wants the
>> Doctor to be turned gay? What makes him think that the majority want
>> to be preached to about race, gender, and identity politics?
>>
>> Who the fuck does RTD think that this agenda appeals to?
>>
>> RTD isn't interested in the viewers or fans, he's only interest is
>> himself and his divisive far left wing politics.
>>
>
> The moment you claimed Hitler was a Marxist sympathiser you invalidate
> every bit of this post.


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 by: solar penguin - Mon, 9 May 2022 05:52 UTC

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> On 2022-05-09 01:48:20 +0000, Idlehands said:
>
>>
>> All Aggy's shows are being destroyed, he should stick to "Leave it to
>> Beaver" and the Dick van Dyke show where the man is the boss and they
>> sleep in separate beds.
>
> New characters aren't the problem. It becomes idiotic when they insist
> on changing *existing* characters or force in characters just to meet
> "Political Correctness" quotas.
>

The Fourteenth Doctor isn’t an *existing* character. (Neither
was the Thirteenth Doctor until she existed.)

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An angry Aggy attempted to argue:

>
> He's not a real man. He's an effeminate poof

The 1950s phoned. They want their prejudices back.

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 by: Your Name - Mon, 9 May 2022 06:49 UTC

On 2022-05-09 05:52:54 +0000, solar penguin said:
> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-05-09 01:48:20 +0000, Idlehands said:
>>>
>>> All Aggy's shows are being destroyed, he should stick to "Leave it to
>>> Beaver" and the Dick van Dyke show where the man is the boss and they
>>> sleep in separate beds.
>>
>> New characters aren't the problem. It becomes idiotic when they insist
>> on changing *existing* characters or force in characters just to meet
>> "Political Correctness" quotas.
>
> The Fourteenth Doctor isn’t an *existing* character. (Neither
> was the Thirteenth Doctor until she existed.)

The Doctor is an existing character. No amount of retro-fitting can
disguise the idiotic "Politically Corret" quota-filling.

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Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> On 2022-05-09 05:52:54 +0000, solar penguin said:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-09 01:48:20 +0000, Idlehands said:
>>>>
>>>> All Aggy's shows are being destroyed, he should stick to "Leave it to
>>>> Beaver" and the Dick van Dyke show where the man is the boss and they
>>>> sleep in separate beds.
>>>
>>> New characters aren't the problem. It becomes idiotic when they insist
>>> on changing *existing* characters or force in characters just to meet
>>> "Political Correctness" quotas.
>>
>> The Fourteenth Doctor isn’t an *existing* character. (Neither
>> was the Thirteenth Doctor until she existed.)
>
> The Doctor is an existing character. No amount of retro-fitting can
> disguise the idiotic "Politically Corret" quota-filling.
>
>

The Doctor is more than just one character.

Fourteen is not an existing character.

Those are the facts. Deal with them.

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 by: Blueshirt - Mon, 9 May 2022 09:05 UTC

The True Doctor wrote:
>
> Have you looked at the ratings recently?
>
> The show that used to be Doctor Who could only manage 2.2 million
> viewers for a festive special. It's lost 10 million viewers after the
> workery and far left-wing political agenda and lecturing was doubled,
> tripled, and quadrupled down on. Do you seriously think it can
> possibly recover with even more wokery?
>
> 80% of its audience has GONE !
>
> Why do you think that is, when all it caters for now are lesbian
> feminists and homosexuals.

You campaigned for Chibnall out, but what did you think RTD was going
to do? Do you know anything about Russell T Davies at all?

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Your Name wrote:

> On 2022-05-08 12:23:20 +0000, The Last Doctor said:
> >
> > Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
> > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
> >
> > You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out Netflix’s Sex
> > Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an excellent role.
>
> It may be a man again, but he's black, so it's still just a
> "Politically Correct" screwed up version of the show and not worth
> bothering to watch. :-(

Not watching something you don't like is the best option.

We don't usually eat food we don't like do we? So I can't understand
why some people who hate "Doctor Who" in 2022 continue to watch it.

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 by: Blueshirt - Mon, 9 May 2022 09:35 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 9:44:13 AM UTC-7, Idlehands wrote:
> > On 2022-05-08 6:37 a.m., The Doctor wrote:
> > >
> > > The real 13th Doctor has arrived!
> >
> > Yes binky, we (TINW) all know you cannot count but you don't have
> > to prove it with every post.
>
> The BBC can't count either! They shoe horned the War Doctor in
> between the 8th and 9th Doctors, then counted the 10th Doctor
> regenerating without changing his appearance as a separate
> regeneration which counted against his 12 regeneration limit!

A sensible Tim post for once... well done.

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An angry Aggy attempted to argue:

>
> Have you looked at the ratings recently?
>
> The show that used to be Doctor Who could only manage 2.2 million
> viewers for a festive special. It's lost 10 million viewers after the
> workery and far left-wing political agenda and lecturing was doubled,
> tripled, and quadrupled down on. Do you seriously think it can possibly
> recover with even more wokery?
>

Interesting how the least “woke” TV channels and programmes
are the ones with the worst ratings. GB News and Talk
TV have both literally had zero viewers for some shows.

Therefore as all broadcast TV ratings fall everywhere,
DW’s
“workery and far left-wing political agenda” must be the
only thing still keeping it up _above_ 2 million viewers!

--
solar penguin

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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 9 May 2022 11:15 UTC

Blueshirt wrote on 9/5/22 6:51 am:
> Idlehands wrote:
>> On 2022-05-08 6:23 a.m., The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>
>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out Netflix’s
>>> Sex Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an excellent
>>> role.
>>
>> That's awesome, he is great in Sex Education.
>
> I haven't seen "Sex Education", but my daughter says it's very good.

Is your daughter already a 'Doctor Who fan??? Or might she follow him
across??

> I might check out an episode on Netflix if I can drag myself away
> from online chess!!!
>
> I wish Mr Gatwa all the best in his new role...

Hear! Hear!
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 9 May 2022 11:18 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 9/5/22 9:07 am:
> In article <t59agh$iou$1@dont-email.me>, Blueshirt
> <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
>> Idlehands wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-08 6:23 a.m., The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>>
>>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out
>>>> Netflix’s Sex Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an
>>>> excellent role.
>>>
>>> That's awesome, he is great in Sex Education.
>>
>> I haven't seen "Sex Education", but my daughter says it's very
>> good. I might check out an episode on Netflix if I can drag myself
>> away from online chess!!!
>>
>> I wish Mr Gatwa all the best in his new role...
>
> the REAL 13th Doctor: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61371123

We've all known YOU, clown, can't SPELL for a long time, clown, and now
we find out YOU, clown, can't count, either, clown!!

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 9 May 2022 11:29 UTC

The True Doctor wrote on 9/5/22 7:50 am:
> On 08/05/2022 22:26, The Other Doctor wrote:
>> "The True Doctor" <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>> news:CbKdnQXhns5Jr-X_nZ2dnUU7-YnNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>> Wow, it takes a lot of effort to maintain such an ignorant
>>>> state in this day and age of instant communication, you should
>>>> use such energy for something better.
>>>
>>> You are the one who is ignorant. 90% of the audience of Doctor
>>> Who is heterosexual and 2/3 of the audience is male.
>>
>> I'm a white heterosexual male. I have no problem with Jodie
>> Whittaker playing the Doctor. I've got no problem with Ncuti Gatwa
>> playing the Doctor.

I've never seen him in anything, so I'll hold my opinion on him!

>> The question is why you're so fragile that you feel the need to get
>> so upset. And not only to moan so ineffectually but continue to
>> watch every episode of something you claim is so bad.

Does Aggy keep watching because his love of Doctor Who exceeds his
disappointment??

>> Face it Aggy, you're the one with the problems. Perhaps if you're a
>> good little boy you can get your mummy to kiss you better...

Yeap!

> Have you looked at the ratings recently?

Is that all that matters?? Do ratings determine if you'll enjoy the
program or not, Aggy??
--
Daniel

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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 9 May 2022 11:30 UTC

tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 9/5/22 8:00 am:
> On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 2:50:26 PM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
>> On 08/05/2022 22:26, The Other Doctor wrote:
>>> "The True Doctor" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>> news:CbKdnQXhns5Jr-X_...@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, it takes a lot of effort to maintain such an ignorant
>>>>> state in this day and age of instant communication, you
>>>>> should use such energy for something better.
>>>>
>>>> You are the one who is ignorant. 90% of the audience of Doctor
>>>> Who is heterosexual and 2/3 of the audience is male.
>>>
>>> I'm a white heterosexual male. I have no problem with Jodie
>>> Whittaker playing the Doctor. I've got no problem with Ncuti
>>> Gatwa playing the Doctor.
>>>
>>> The question is why you're so fragile that you feel the need to
>>> get so upset. And not only to moan so ineffectually but continue
>>> to watch every episode of something you claim is so bad.
>>>
>>> Face it Aggy, you're the one with the problems. Perhaps if you're
>>> a good little boy you can get your mummy to kiss you better...
>>>
>>>
>> Have you looked at the ratings recently?
>>
>> The show that used to be Doctor Who could only manage 2.2 million
>> viewers for a festive special. It's lost 10 million viewers after
>> the workery and far left-wing political agenda and lecturing was
>> doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on. Do you seriously think it
>> can possibly recover with even more wokery?
>>
>> 80% of its audience has GONE !
>>
>> Why do you think that is, when all it caters for now are lesbian
>> feminists and homosexuals.
>
> Lesbians ARE homosexual!

Correct, Tim.
--
Daniel

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 by: Blueshirt - Mon, 9 May 2022 11:37 UTC

Daniel65 wrote:

> Blueshirt wrote on 9/5/22 6:51 am:
> > Idlehands wrote:
> > > On 2022-05-08 6:23 a.m., The Last Doctor wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
> > > > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
> > > >
> > > > You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out Netflix’s
> > > > Sex Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an excellent
> > > > role.
> > >
> > > That's awesome, he is great in Sex Education.
> >
> > I haven't seen "Sex Education", but my daughter says it's very good.
>
> Is your daughter already a 'Doctor Who fan??? Or might she follow him
> across??

I don't think she's watched an episode since David Tennant left! In
fact, I'm not sure she's watched any proper TV that's not on Netflix or
Disney+ in recent years!

> > I might check out an episode on Netflix if I can drag myself away
> > from online chess!!!
> >
> > I wish Mr Gatwa all the best in his new role...
>
> Hear! Hear!

Like all eras of Doctor Who it's down to the writing and the
entertainment value of the episodes. It's in all of our interests [as
Doctor Who fans] that Ncuti Gatwa does well as the 14th Doctor, and
the show lives on beyond it's 60th year.

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 by: Blueshirt - Mon, 9 May 2022 11:38 UTC

Daniel65 wrote:

> tsbr...@gmail.com wrote on 9/5/22 8:00 am:
> > On Sunday, May 8, 2022 at 2:50:26 PM UTC-7, The True Doctor wrote:
> > >
> > > Why do you think that is, when all it caters for now are lesbian
> > > feminists and homosexuals.
> >
> > Lesbians ARE homosexual!
>
> Correct, Tim.

Tim's on a roll today, not only another coherent post but correct as
well!!!

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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 9 May 2022 12:37 UTC

The Doctor wrote on 9/5/22 9:33 am:
> In article <t59hdt$rmb$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
> <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-05-08 12:23:20 +0000, The Last Doctor said:
>>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>
>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out
>>> Netflix’s Sex Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an
>>> excellent role.
>>
>> It may be a man again, but he's black, so it's still just a
>> "Politically Correct" screwed up version of the show and not worth
>> bothering to watch. :-(
>
> BTW, if Patterson Joseph was 10th or 13th Doctor ...

Who??

Oh! And by the way, clown .... (AKJV) Luke 6:42 Either how canst thou
say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine
eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then
shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye.
--
Daniel

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 by: Idlehands - Mon, 9 May 2022 12:42 UTC

On 2022-05-08 11:00 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
> On 09/05/2022 05:42, Idlehands wrote:
>> On 2022-05-08 8:20 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>> On 09/05/2022 02:45, Idlehands wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-08 3:14 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>> On 08/05/2022 21:10, Idlehands wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 1:30 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 19:59, The Other Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>> "The True Doctor" <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:nqednfpLMNQmjeX_nZ2dnUU7-bvNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 13:23, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out
>>>>>>>>>> Netflix's Sex
>>>>>>>>>> Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an excellent role.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He's not a real man. He's an effeminate poof playing, based on
>>>>>>>>> RTD's most
>>>>>>>>> recent bigoted and sexist statements, an effeminate poof, since
>>>>>>>>> only gays
>>>>>>>>> according to RTD can play gay characters, and by extrapolation
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> straight actors can play straight characters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bollocks. Ncuti Gatwa plays a gay man in Sex Education so you're
>>>>>>>> assuming
>>>>>>>> he's gay. But he's never discussed his own sexuality.
>>>>>>>> Regardless, the colour
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That means he's gay. He talks like an effeminate gay, because
>>>>>>> that's what he is. Just look at the way he was dressed for the
>>>>>>> press, bearing his bare chest through an open lapelled jacket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of his skin and his sexuality have absolutely nothing to do with
>>>>>>>> his ability
>>>>>>>> as an actor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His skin colour and his sexuality were the ONLY reason he was cast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've got to be stupid and naive if you think he was cast based
>>>>>>> just on merit. The BBC had already decided he had to be black and
>>>>>>> RTD would only come back if he could make the Doctor gay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're a bigot. Please stop watching Doctor Who. You're an
>>>>>>>> embarrassment to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are the bigot along with this entire show's producers. Doctor
>>>>>>> Who ended in 2017. The Doctor was a white British male
>>>>>>> heterosexual character for over 50 years, and people are entitled
>>>>>>> to desire it to stay that way. Only a racist would think being
>>>>>>> white, British, male, and heterosexual was not good enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you think casting a gay actor is going to bring back
>>>>>>> female viewers and fans? How do you think it is going to attract
>>>>>>> straight male fans? Where's the romance going to be with the
>>>>>>> companion, which was the only thing that sold any of RTD's
>>>>>>> series. No, wait, he's going to make the companion homosexual too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And then there's his Rwandan accent. How does that make him British?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the rest of us (Yads excepted). Stick to what you're good at -
>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>> pizzas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a stupid bigoted imbecile. This fucking sexist and racist
>>>>>>> wokery and identity politics has destroyed everything. Doctor
>>>>>>> Who, Star Trek, Star Wars, and LOTR have all been totally
>>>>>>> destroyed to server the narrow minded bigoted self interest of a
>>>>>>> bunch far left political activists and sexual perverts! They're
>>>>>>> only writing for themselves and people that think like them or
>>>>>>> they want to think like them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's not recovering from ratings of only 2.2 million after this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RTD could have signalled the wokery would end, but instead there
>>>>>>> will be even more of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Adventures of the Timeless Child monster continues for the
>>>>>>> moment. Doctor Who ended in 2017.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, it takes a lot of effort to maintain such an ignorant state
>>>>>> in this day and age of instant communication, you should use such
>>>>>> energy for something better.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are the one who is ignorant. 90% of the audience of Doctor Who
>>>>> is heterosexual and 2/3 of the audience is male.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do gay people scare you so bad?  Is your sexual orientation so
>>>>>> fragile or is it living in denial that is causing you all this grief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What justification is there in inserting gay characters and
>>>>> changing the sexuality of existing ones in existing shows where 90%
>>>>> of the audience is heterosexual? There isn't any. What this amounts
>>>>> to, especially when it involves family shows like Doctor Who being
>>>>> taken over and repurposed, is sexual grooming and predation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does your ass hurt from all the stats you like to pull from it?
>>>>
>>>> I think the best justification is watching you prove what a
>>>> misogynistic racist homophobe you really are.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's the only thing you woke bigots can ever say to anyone who has
>>> a different opinion to you, because you can't defend a single thing
>>> that you claim believe in.
>>>
>>>> Conservatives love throwing the words "grooming" and "predator"
>>>> around to try and distract people from their own behaviour.  Thanks
>>>> for joining the stereotype.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not the one hijacking a TV show and repurposing it to spread
>>> homosexual propaganda to a predominately heterosexual audience.
>>>
>>
>> Still waiting for you to prove this ridiculous claim about the
>> audience, and your attempts to turn your words onto myself is a
>> perfect example of a bully attempting to gaslight his way our of the
>> hole he has dug himself.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You are the one bulling people who don't agree with your woke ideology.
> I'm still waiting for you to justify it using a logical and rational
> argument. Who should an audience which is 90% heterosexual be subjected
> to a gay agenda and have their show hijacked and the main protagonist
> who has been heterosexual for over 50 years turned gay? How is that
> supposed to appeal to them? Who is this show supposed to be for? Why
> should the majority be made to suffer in order to appease a minority of
> extreme left wing bigots who want everything to be about them and only
> them?
>

Blah blah blah.......I am not the one writing the hostile word salads in
a angry defensive mode trying to overwhelm anyone who dares asks a
question. Only bullies do that.

So prove the majority of viewers are white heterosexual males, should be
simple for you because you keep stating it.


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 by: Idlehands - Mon, 9 May 2022 12:44 UTC

On 2022-05-08 11:03 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
> On 09/05/2022 05:44, Idlehands wrote:
>> On 2022-05-08 8:37 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>> On 09/05/2022 02:52, cruciverbalist wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 8 May 2022 22:14:59 +0100, The True Doctor
>>>> <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/05/2022 21:10, Idlehands wrote:
>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 1:30 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 19:59, The Other Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>> "The True Doctor" <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:nqednfpLMNQmjeX_nZ2dnUU7-bvNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 13:23, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out
>>>>>>>>>> Netflix's Sex
>>>>>>>>>> Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an excellent role.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He's not a real man. He's an effeminate poof playing, based on
>>>>>>>>> RTD's
>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>> recent bigoted and sexist statements, an effeminate poof, since
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> gays
>>>>>>>>> according to RTD can play gay characters, and by extrapolation
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> straight actors can play straight characters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bollocks. Ncuti Gatwa plays a gay man in Sex Education so you're
>>>>>>>> assuming
>>>>>>>> he's gay. But he's never discussed his own sexuality.
>>>>>>>> Regardless, the
>>>>>>>> colour
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That means he's gay. He talks like an effeminate gay, because that's
>>>>>>> what he is. Just look at the way he was dressed for the press,
>>>>>>> bearing
>>>>>>> his bare chest through an open lapelled jacket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of his skin and his sexuality have absolutely nothing to do with
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> ability
>>>>>>>> as an actor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His skin colour and his sexuality were the ONLY reason he was cast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've got to be stupid and naive if you think he was cast based
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> on merit. The BBC had already decided he had to be black and RTD
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> only come back if he could make the Doctor gay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're a bigot. Please stop watching Doctor Who. You're an
>>>>>>>> embarrassment to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are the bigot along with this entire show's producers. Doctor
>>>>>>> Who
>>>>>>> ended in 2017. The Doctor was a white British male heterosexual
>>>>>>> character for over 50 years, and people are entitled to desire it to
>>>>>>> stay that way. Only a racist would think being white, British, male,
>>>>>>> and heterosexual was not good enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you think casting a gay actor is going to bring back female
>>>>>>> viewers and fans? How do you think it is going to attract straight
>>>>>>> male fans? Where's the romance going to be with the companion, which
>>>>>>> was the only thing that sold any of RTD's series. No, wait, he's
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to make the companion homosexual too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And then there's his Rwandan accent. How does that make him British?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the rest of us (Yads excepted). Stick to what you're good at -
>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>> pizzas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're a stupid bigoted imbecile. This fucking sexist and racist
>>>>>>> wokery and identity politics has destroyed everything. Doctor Who,
>>>>>>> Star Trek, Star Wars, and LOTR have all been totally destroyed to
>>>>>>> server the narrow minded bigoted self interest of a bunch far left
>>>>>>> political activists and sexual perverts! They're only writing for
>>>>>>> themselves and people that think like them or they want to think
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's not recovering from ratings of only 2.2 million after this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RTD could have signalled the wokery would end, but instead there
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be even more of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Adventures of the Timeless Child monster continues for the
>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow, it takes a lot of effort to maintain such an ignorant state
>>>>>> in this
>>>>>> day and age of instant communication, you should use such energy for
>>>>>> something better.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are the one who is ignorant. 90% of the audience of Doctor Who is
>>>>> heterosexual and 2/3 of the audience is male.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do gay people scare you so bad?  Is your sexual orientation so
>>>>>> fragile or is it living in denial that is causing you all this grief.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What justification is there in inserting gay characters and
>>>>> changing the
>>>>> sexuality of existing ones in existing shows where 90% of the audience
>>>>> is heterosexual? There isn't any. What this amounts to, especially
>>>>> when
>>>>> it involves family shows like Doctor Who being taken over and
>>>>> repurposed, is sexual grooming and predation.
>>>>
>>>> Aggie, I am going to concede one point to you. I am a dyed in the wool
>>>> liberal going all the way back to the 1960s. Yet even I find the
>>>> madness of the current far left and the woke culture irritating as all
>>>> hell.
>>>>
>>>> That said, listening to you spout far right MAGA conspiracy shit is
>>>
>>> I'm not a Marxist and don't support Corporatism being used to control
>>> industry without the state actually owning it, so I can't be far
>>> right. I'm a centrist. Industry should neither be owned nor
>>> controlled by the state. Research where the term far right comes
>>> from. It only applies to Marxists and Marxist sympathisers like Adolf
>>> Hitler and Mussolini who opposed state ownership of industry but
>>> believe the state should still control it, and no one else. People
>>> who stood in the centre of politics at the time of Hitler were called
>>> Centrists, or Social Democrats by those on the left, and bourgeois by
>>> the far left Marxists. Karl Marx himself was a Jew hating bigot.
>>>
>>>> even more offensive. You claim to speak the truth, but that far right
>>>> MAGA lunacy is so far off the rails and so far from the truth that it
>>>> would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The so called far right is exactly the same as the far left. Both are
>>> opposing factions of Marxism by historical definition.
>>>
>>>> Reread some of what you write. It doesn't come across as well thought
>>>> out ideas and concepts; it comes across as political invective and the
>>>> screed of a madman. You not only come off as a one trick pony, you
>>>> come off as a mentally ill and a self-loathing homosexual. Think about
>>>> it, dude (assuming you are a dude).
>>>
>>> And now you lose all credibly completely.
>>>
>>> I didn't watch Doctor Who to have it taken over and used to
>>> indoctrinate people with the showrunner's homosexual agenda,
>>> especially when 90% of the audience is not gay. Opposing this
>>> propaganda and the sexual grooming of children which it amounts to
>>> does not make you gay, insane, or self loathing.
>>>
>>> What makes RTD think that the majority of the audience wants the
>>> Doctor to be turned gay? What makes him think that the majority want
>>> to be preached to about race, gender, and identity politics?
>>>
>>> Who the fuck does RTD think that this agenda appeals to?
>>>
>>> RTD isn't interested in the viewers or fans, he's only interest is
>>> himself and his divisive far left wing politics.
>>>
>>
>> The moment you claimed Hitler was a Marxist sympathiser you invalidate
>> every bit of this post.
>
> I didn't invalidate anything because both Hitler and Mussolini were
> Marxists and stated it themselves. Read Mein Kampf where Hitler
> explicitly states he deliberately incorporated Marxist ideology into
> National Socialism (ie. Nazism) in order to attract Marxists to his side
> and usurp the position of the German Marxist Party.
>


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 by: Daniel65 - Mon, 9 May 2022 13:27 UTC

Blueshirt wrote on 9/5/22 9:37 pm:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>
>> Blueshirt wrote on 9/5/22 6:51 am:
>>> Idlehands wrote:
>>>> On 2022-05-08 6:23 a.m., The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>>>
>>>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out
>>>>> Netflix’s Sex Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an
>>>>> excellent role.
>>>>
>>>> That's awesome, he is great in Sex Education.
>>>
>>> I haven't seen "Sex Education", but my daughter says it's very
>>> good.
>>
>> Is your daughter already a 'Doctor Who fan??? Or might she follow
>> him across??
>
> I don't think she's watched an episode since David Tennant left! In
> fact, I'm not sure she's watched any proper TV that's not on Netflix
> or Disney+ in recent years!

And she wouldn't be on her own with doing that .... although the other
pretty boy, Matt, should have held their interests!!

>>> I might check out an episode on Netflix if I can drag myself
>>> away from online chess!!!
>>>
>>> I wish Mr Gatwa all the best in his new role...
>>
>> Hear! Hear!
>
> Like all eras of Doctor Who it's down to the writing and the
> entertainment value of the episodes. It's in all of our interests
> [as Doctor Who fans] that Ncuti Gatwa does well as the 14th Doctor,
> and the show lives on beyond it's 60th year.

What's the old saying .... 'Can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear!!'
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Binky bleated:

> In article <t5aof6$sib$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> An angry Aggy attempted to argue:
>>
>>>
>>> Have you looked at the ratings recently?
>>>
>>> The show that used to be Doctor Who could only manage 2.2 million
>>> viewers for a festive special. It's lost 10 million viewers after the
>>> workery and far left-wing political agenda and lecturing was doubled,
>>> tripled, and quadrupled down on. Do you seriously think it can possibly
>>> recover with even more wokery?
>>>
>>
>> Interesting how the least “woke” TV channels and programmes
>> are the ones with the worst ratings. GB News and Talk
>> TV have both literally had zero viewers for some shows.
>>
>> Therefore as all broadcast TV ratings fall everywhere,
>> DW’s
>> “workery and far left-wing political agenda” must be the
>> only thing still keeping it up _above_ 2 million viewers!
>>
>
> Still poor! The show should be 10 million plus!
>

Never gonna happen, no matter who plays the Doctor.

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Binky bleated:

> In article <t5ae0m$ee4$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 2022-05-09 05:52:54 +0000, solar penguin said:
>>>> Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-09 01:48:20 +0000, Idlehands said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All Aggy's shows are being destroyed, he should stick to "Leave it to
>>>>>> Beaver" and the Dick van Dyke show where the man is the boss and they
>>>>>> sleep in separate beds.
>>>>>
>>>>> New characters aren't the problem. It becomes idiotic when they insist
>>>>> on changing *existing* characters or force in characters just to meet
>>>>> "Political Correctness" quotas.
>>>>
>>>> The Fourteenth Doctor isn’t an *existing* character. (Neither
>>>> was the Thirteenth Doctor until she existed.)
>>>
>>> The Doctor is an existing character. No amount of retro-fitting can
>>> disguise the idiotic "Politically Corret" quota-filling.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The Doctor is more than just one character.
>>
>> Fourteen is not an existing character.
>>
>> Those are the facts. Deal with them.
>>
>
> Ncuti Gatwa is the REAL 13th Doctor! Fact!!
>

Liar! He isn’t any REAL Doctor! He’s an actor! Fact!!

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 by: Blueshirt - Mon, 9 May 2022 15:52 UTC

The Doctor wrote:
> In article <t5alkp$2hr$1@dont-email.me>,
> Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
> > Your Name wrote:
> >> It may be a man again, but he's black, so it's still just a
> >> "Politically Correct" screwed up version of the show and not
> >> worth >> bothering to watch. :-(
> >
> > Not watching something you don't like is the best option.
> >
> > We don't usually eat food we don't like do we? So I can't
> > understand why some people who hate "Doctor Who" in 2022 continue
> > to watch it.
> >
>
> YN isn't watching.

I know, I can read. My comment was aimed at people like YOU and The
True Agamemnon!

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Binky bleated:

> In article <t5b8jk$prt$1@dont-email.me>,
> solar penguin <solar.penguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Binky bleated:
>>
>>>
>>> Ncuti Gatwa is the REAL 13th Doctor! Fact!!
>>>
>>
>> Liar! He isn’t any REAL Doctor! He’s an actor! Fact!!
>>
>
> I said the REAL 13th Doctor after the Capaldi one!
>

I didn’t hear you say that but if you did, you were lying.
There wasn’t a Capaldi 13th Doctor. (And even if there
were, Ncuti Gatwa would still be an actor not a real Doctor.)

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