Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge

https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber

An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
advantage of this raises moral issues.
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On 6/7/2022 8:03 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
> Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
>
> https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
>
> An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
> advantage of this raises moral issues.

What, there is a Joan D. Vinge book that I have not read ? I thought
that I had read everything that she and her husband had written (I have
his latest book in my SBR).

Lynn

On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 6:22:32 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 6/7/2022 8:03 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
> > Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
> >
> > https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
> >
> > An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
> > advantage of this raises moral issues.
>
> What, there is a Joan D. Vinge book that I have not read ? I thought
> that I had read everything that she and her husband had written (I have
> his latest book in my SBR).
>

Would that latest book be 2011's The Children of the Sky, or have
I missed something he released after that?

Tony

In article <t7oj34$3gd$4@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 6/7/2022 8:03 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>> Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
>>
>> https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
>>
>> An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
>> advantage of this raises moral issues.
>
>What, there is a Joan D. Vinge book that I have not read ? I thought
>that I had read everything that she and her husband had written (I have
>his latest book in my SBR).
>
Ex-husband. She divorced him in 1979 and married their editor, James
Frenkel, in 1980.

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On 6/7/2022 6:33 PM, Tony Nance wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 6:22:32 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 6/7/2022 8:03 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>> Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
>>>
>>> https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
>>>
>>> An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
>>> advantage of this raises moral issues.
>>
>> What, there is a Joan D. Vinge book that I have not read ? I thought
>> that I had read everything that she and her husband had written (I have
>> his latest book in my SBR).
>>
>
> Would that latest book be 2011's The Children of the Sky, or have
> I missed something he released after that?
>
> Tony

I believe so. I am not home at the moment.

Lynn

On 7 Jun 2022 13:03:50 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

>Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
>
>https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
>
>An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
>advantage of this raises moral issues.

Checking shows that I have it on my "Books Wanted" list, but checking
Amazon suggests it isn't available on Kindle.

Pity.
--
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"I have envied him long since."

In article <ukl1ah170srrj1c5jnrvulmnfabijhbqkq@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>On 7 Jun 2022 13:03:50 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>
>>Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
>>
>>https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
>>
>>An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
>>advantage of this raises moral issues.
>
>Checking shows that I have it on my "Books Wanted" list, but checking
>Amazon suggests it isn't available on Kindle.
>
>Pity.

A decent rule of thumb with JDV is that if it was a novel from Tor, it is in
print and if it was any other length and/or from anyone else, it's not.
Snow Queen, for example, was originally Dial and it spent years and years
out of print before Tor acquired it.
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In article <t7qmic$h14$1@reader1.panix.com>,
James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <ukl1ah170srrj1c5jnrvulmnfabijhbqkq@4ax.com>,
>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>On 7 Jun 2022 13:03:50 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>>
>>>Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
>>>
>>>https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
>>>
>>>An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
>>>advantage of this raises moral issues.
>>
>>Checking shows that I have it on my "Books Wanted" list, but checking
>>Amazon suggests it isn't available on Kindle.
>>
>>Pity.
>
>A decent rule of thumb with JDV is that if it was a novel from Tor, it is in
>print and if it was any other length and/or from anyone else, it's not.
>Snow Queen, for example, was originally Dial and it spent years and years
>out of print before Tor acquired it.

My experience with local used bookstores suggests it should be easy to
find a physical copy of Eyes of Amber. I understand that this won't
help if the issue is tiny tiny Disco era print.
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On 2022-06-08, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
> In article <ukl1ah170srrj1c5jnrvulmnfabijhbqkq@4ax.com>,
> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>On 7 Jun 2022 13:03:50 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>>
>>>Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
>>>
>>>https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
>>>
>>>An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
>>>advantage of this raises moral issues.
>>
>>Checking shows that I have it on my "Books Wanted" list, but checking
>>Amazon suggests it isn't available on Kindle.
>>
>>Pity.
>
> A decent rule of thumb with JDV is that if it was a novel from Tor, it is in
> print and if it was any other length and/or from anyone else, it's not.
> Snow Queen, for example, was originally Dial and it spent years and years
> out of print before Tor acquired it.

Why was it out of print?

It did quite well. It was in print pretty continuously from 1981 until
2000 as far as I can tell; most of the time by Time-Warner. The
sequel _The Summer Queen_ was in print by Time-Warner from 1991
throughout the 1990s. But then Tor evidently got the rights to
_The Summer Queen_ and reprinted it in 2003. Did Tor really get the rights
to the sequel and not the original? That's highly unusual. Tor
eventually reprinted _The Snow Queen_ in 2015 - were they sitting on
the rights to it all that time? That also seems quite improbable.

Chris

In article <jgcij9F9rnqU1@mid.individual.net>,
Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> wrote:
>On 2022-06-08, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>> In article <ukl1ah170srrj1c5jnrvulmnfabijhbqkq@4ax.com>,
>> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>On 7 Jun 2022 13:03:50 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
>>>>
>>>>https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
>>>>
>>>>An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
>>>>advantage of this raises moral issues.
>>>
>>>Checking shows that I have it on my "Books Wanted" list, but checking
>>>Amazon suggests it isn't available on Kindle.
>>>
>>>Pity.
>>
>> A decent rule of thumb with JDV is that if it was a novel from Tor, it is in
>> print and if it was any other length and/or from anyone else, it's not.
>> Snow Queen, for example, was originally Dial and it spent years and years
>> out of print before Tor acquired it.
>
>Why was it out of print?

No idea. Publishing is weird.
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In article <t7qo1e$5qf$1@reader1.panix.com>,
jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:

> In article <t7qmic$h14$1@reader1.panix.com>,
> James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
> >In article <ukl1ah170srrj1c5jnrvulmnfabijhbqkq@4ax.com>,
> >Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
> >>On 7 Jun 2022 13:03:50 -0000, jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) wrote:
> >>
> >>>Young People Read Old Hugo Finalists: Eyes of Amber by Joan D. Vinge
> >>>
> >>>https://youngpeoplereadoldsff.com/story/eyes-of-amber
> >>>
> >>>An alien aristocrat's blood feud is ratings gold on Earth but taking
> >>>advantage of this raises moral issues.
> >>
> >>Checking shows that I have it on my "Books Wanted" list, but checking
> >>Amazon suggests it isn't available on Kindle.
> >>
> >>Pity.
> >
> >A decent rule of thumb with JDV is that if it was a novel from Tor, it is in
> >print and if it was any other length and/or from anyone else, it's not.
> >Snow Queen, for example, was originally Dial and it spent years and years
> >out of print before Tor acquired it.
>
> My experience with local used bookstores suggests it should be easy to
> find a physical copy of Eyes of Amber. I understand that this won't
> help if the issue is tiny tiny Disco era print.

I don't know what you consider tiny print, but my copy of _Eyes of
Amber_ (1st printing of that collection) has 44 lines per page (I did
some checking, a recent David Weber paperback, a very think one, from
Tor had 40 lines, several Baen titles had 31 or 32 lines).

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