Has Dorothy posted anything lately ? Her last posting was on May 23 on
my Pearls Before Swine posting.

I am hoping that her ALS has not progressed further.

I do not see anything new at
http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

Thanks,
Lynn

On 6/9/22 20:34, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> Has Dorothy posted anything lately ?  Her last posting was on May 23 on
> my Pearls Before Swine posting.
>
> I am hoping that her ALS has not progressed further.
>
> I do not see anything new at
>    http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
>
> Thanks,
> Lynn

I just sent her an email. We'll see if she gets back to me.

--
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Captain, Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
Sr. Software Engineer - Stellar Solutions (Definitely Retired)

On 10 Jun 2022, BCFD36 wrote
(in article <t805uq$1kvk$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

> On 6/9/22 20:34, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > Has Dorothy posted anything lately ? Her last posting was on May 23 on
> > my Pearls Before Swine posting.
> >
> > I am hoping that her ALS has not progressed further.
> >
> > I do not see anything new at
> > http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lynn
>
> I just sent her an email. We'll see if she gets back to me.

Any word?

Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> writes:
>On 10 Jun 2022, BCFD36 wrote
>(in article <t805uq$1kvk$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
>
>> On 6/9/22 20:34, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> > Has Dorothy posted anything lately ? Her last posting was on May 23 on
>> > my Pearls Before Swine posting.
>> >
>> > I am hoping that her ALS has not progressed further.
>> >
>> > I do not see anything new at
>> > http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Lynn
>>
>> I just sent her an email. We'll see if she gets back to me.
>
>Any word?
>

Maybe she's still celebrating her 80th birthday (which was last week)

On 6/15/22 03:44, Wolffan wrote:
> On 10 Jun 2022, BCFD36 wrote
> (in article <t805uq$1kvk$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
>
>> On 6/9/22 20:34, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> Has Dorothy posted anything lately ? Her last posting was on May 23 on
>>> my Pearls Before Swine posting.
>>>
>>> I am hoping that her ALS has not progressed further.
>>>
>>> I do not see anything new at
>>> http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lynn
>>
>> I just sent her an email. We'll see if she gets back to me.
>
> Any word?
>
Nothing. This bodes ill.

--
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Captain, Boulder Creek Fire (Retired)
Sr. Software Engineer - Stellar Solutions (Definitely Retired)

On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 3:23:06 PM UTC-6, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> All he was willing to tell me was that
> she was ill, and could not come to the phone. I didn't feel it was appropriate
> to press further.

This is unfortunate. When I first saw this thread, it had seemed to me that
she had just posted very recently before it was started, and so there was no
cause for concern, but I was mistaken.

John Savard

On 6/16/2022 8:54 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 3:23:06 PM UTC-6, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>> All he was willing to tell me was that
>> she was ill, and could not come to the phone. I didn't feel it was appropriate
>> to press further.
>
> This is unfortunate. When I first saw this thread, it had seemed to me that
> she had just posted very recently before it was started, and so there was no
> cause for concern, but I was mistaken.
>
> John Savard

I emailed the individual that handles her website and he said she hadn't
logged in for a while and that he'd try to reach her. His update was
"I’ve been assured she’s still alive."

On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 21:41:32 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
<morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:

>On 6/16/2022 8:54 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 3:23:06 PM UTC-6, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> All he was willing to tell me was that
>>> she was ill, and could not come to the phone. I didn't feel it was appropriate
>>> to press further.
>>
>> This is unfortunate. When I first saw this thread, it had seemed to me that
>> she had just posted very recently before it was started, and so there was no
>> cause for concern, but I was mistaken.
>>
>> John Savard
>
>I emailed the individual that handles her website and he said she hadn't
>logged in for a while and that he'd try to reach her. His update was
>"I’ve been assured she’s still alive."

Well, that's something anyway.
--
"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."

On 16 Jun 2022, pete...@gmail.com wrote
(in article<f5b4c603-5e3e-43c2-9d8e-e55b6368cac0n@googlegroups.com>):

> On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 10:28:48 AM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > Wolffan <akwo...@zoho.com> writes:
> > > On 10 Jun 2022, BCFD36 wrote
> > > (in article <t805uq$1kvk$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):
> > >
> > > > On 6/9/22 20:34, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> > > > > Has Dorothy posted anything lately ? Her last posting was on May 23 on
> > > > > my Pearls Before Swine posting.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am hoping that her ALS has not progressed further.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do not see anything new at
> > > > > http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Lynn
> > > >
> > > > I just sent her an email. We'll see if she gets back to me.
> > >
> > > Any word?
> > Maybe she's still celebrating her 80th birthday (which was last week)
>
> I called their landline (I visited them in Vallejo about 5 years ago). It
> was picked up by her son-in-law. All he was willing to tell me was that
> she was ill, and could not come to the phone. I didn't feel it was appropriate
> to press further.
>
> pt

Hmm... this doesn’t sound good, at all.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:54:20 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 21:41:32 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
><morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>
>>On 6/16/2022 8:54 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 3:23:06 PM UTC-6, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> All he was willing to tell me was that
>>>> she was ill, and could not come to the phone. I didn't feel it was appropriate
>>>> to press further.
>>>
>>> This is unfortunate. When I first saw this thread, it had seemed to me that
>>> she had just posted very recently before it was started, and so there was no
>>> cause for concern, but I was mistaken.
>>>
>>> John Savard
>>
>>I emailed the individual that handles her website and he said she hadn't
>>logged in for a while and that he'd try to reach her. His update was
>>"I’ve been assured she’s still alive."
>
>Well, that's something anyway.

Hopefully she's more than alive. One of my hobbies is organizing chess
tournaments and one of Canada's best known tournament directors (and a
personal friend) is alive but deep in dementia - like Star Trek's
Nichelle Nichols.

On 6/17/2022 9:04 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 08:54:20 -0700, Paul S Person
> <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 21:41:32 -0500, "Jay E. Morris"
>> <morrisj@epsilon3.comcon> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/16/2022 8:54 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 3:23:06 PM UTC-6, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> All he was willing to tell me was that
>>>>> she was ill, and could not come to the phone. I didn't feel it was appropriate
>>>>> to press further.
>>>>
>>>> This is unfortunate. When I first saw this thread, it had seemed to me that
>>>> she had just posted very recently before it was started, and so there was no
>>>> cause for concern, but I was mistaken.
>>>>
>>>> John Savard
>>>
>>> I emailed the individual that handles her website and he said she hadn't
>>> logged in for a while and that he'd try to reach her. His update was
>>> "I’ve been assured she’s still alive."
>>
>> Well, that's something anyway.
>
> Hopefully she's more than alive. One of my hobbies is organizing chess
> tournaments and one of Canada's best known tournament directors (and a
> personal friend) is alive but deep in dementia - like Star Trek's
> Nichelle Nichols.

Dorothy was diagnosed with ALS a couple of months ago. She just turned
80. She was having trouble using the PC mouse a couple of weeks ago.

Lynn

In article <ts8pah5c3b5u1j3f9cp4doicgo84u6aek4@4ax.com>,
Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>"I�ve been assured she�s still alive."
>
I've gotten worse;2+ weeks in hospital. Got back last night;
doesn't look good. More later when I can type.

--
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com
Www.kithrup.com/~djheydt/

On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 17:28:30 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>In article <ts8pah5c3b5u1j3f9cp4doicgo84u6aek4@4ax.com>,
>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>"I’ve been assured she’s still alive."
>>
>I've gotten worse;2+ weeks in hospital. Got back last night;
>doesn't look good. More later when I can type.

(1) Am VERY sorry to hear that (2nd last sentence)
(2) (last sentence) That will CERTAINLY be most welcome.

Hopefully you are being unduly pessimistic....

On 6/28/2022 12:28 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> In article <ts8pah5c3b5u1j3f9cp4doicgo84u6aek4@4ax.com>,
> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>> "I’ve been assured she’s still alive."
>>
> I've gotten worse;2+ weeks in hospital. Got back last night;
> doesn't look good. More later when I can type.

So good to hear from you !

We wish you the best.

Lynn

(Hal Heydt)

Unfortuneately, it wasn't optimistic. She died Tuesday evening.

I am still overwhelmed by the enormity of her loss. I keep
looking and the bed where she sat, due to chronic fatigue and
then ALS. And she's not there. We were married for 51 years.

While in Stanford hospital, she wrote the following to be posted
after hear death.

------

To my family, friends, and anyone else interested:

After I have died, tell anyone anything you like, ending with this text:

Cynthia, widow of Demetrius Duilius Artifex (and of Komi, son of
Endreigon, the only husband she had loved, and of Demodoros, whom
no one remembered any more), sat dying in her bed.

Her daughters, granddaughters, and the household servants were caring
for her as she could no longer care for them, but she slipped out
through the soles of her feet and into the depths of the earth.

The place had not changed much since she had seen it last: its grey
colors had faded a trifle, and the stream that had flowed between
her and Komi had stopped moving: frozen, perhaps? But she was dead
now, and could cross it.

The silent dead sat among the trees, the spirits of men and gods
and perhaps others, though if her friends the Qualities were
here, they too had faded. But two remembered morning stars still
shone, Komi's eyes, and she found a place to sit beside him. No
one spoke; perhaps it was unlawful, or maybe just impossible.

But something that might have been time passed, and now a light
shone from the east, filling earth and air with color, and a grat
chorus of voices: LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, YOU GATES, AND BE LIFTED
UP, YOU EVERLASTING DOORS, THAT THE KING OF GLORY MAY COME IN.

who is the King of Glory?

THE LORD OF HOSTS: HEIS THE KING OF GLORY

(save to file)

On 6/29/2022 5:33 PM, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> (Hal Heydt)
>
> Unfortuneately, it wasn't optimistic. She died Tuesday evening.
>
> I am still overwhelmed by the enormity of her loss. I keep
> looking and the bed where she sat, due to chronic fatigue and
> then ALS. And she's not there. We were married for 51 years.
>
All of us here send our condolences and sympathy. While we can't miss
her anywhere near as much as you do, we will miss her too.

--

My condolenses.

In article <rE9LJ8.1Iqq@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote:
>(Hal Heydt)
>
>Unfortuneately, it wasn't optimistic. She died Tuesday evening.
>
>I am still overwhelmed by the enormity of her loss. I keep
>looking and the bed where she sat, due to chronic fatigue and
>then ALS. And she's not there. We were married for 51 years.
>
>While in Stanford hospital, she wrote the following to be posted
>after hear death.
>
>------
>
>To my family, friends, and anyone else interested:
>
>After I have died, tell anyone anything you like, ending with this text:
>
>Cynthia, widow of Demetrius Duilius Artifex (and of Komi, son of
>Endreigon, the only husband she had loved, and of Demodoros, whom
>no one remembered any more), sat dying in her bed.
>
>Her daughters, granddaughters, and the household servants were caring
>for her as she could no longer care for them, but she slipped out
>through the soles of her feet and into the depths of the earth.
>
>The place had not changed much since she had seen it last: its grey
>colors had faded a trifle, and the stream that had flowed between
>her and Komi had stopped moving: frozen, perhaps? But she was dead
>now, and could cross it.
>
>The silent dead sat among the trees, the spirits of men and gods
>and perhaps others, though if her friends the Qualities were
>here, they too had faded. But two remembered morning stars still
>shone, Komi's eyes, and she found a place to sit beside him. No
>one spoke; perhaps it was unlawful, or maybe just impossible.
>
>But something that might have been time passed, and now a light
>shone from the east, filling earth and air with color, and a grat
>chorus of voices: LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, YOU GATES, AND BE LIFTED
>UP, YOU EVERLASTING DOORS, THAT THE KING OF GLORY MAY COME IN.
>
>who is the King of Glory?
>
>THE LORD OF HOSTS: HEIS THE KING OF GLORY
>
>(save to file)

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On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:50:26 PM UTC-4, James Nicoll wrote:
> My condolenses.
>
> In article <rE9LJ...@kithrup.com>,
> Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
> >(Hal Heydt)
> >
> >Unfortuneately, it wasn't optimistic. She died Tuesday evening.
> >
> >I am still overwhelmed by the enormity of her loss. I keep
> >looking and the bed where she sat, due to chronic fatigue and
> >then ALS. And she's not there. We were married for 51 years.
> >
> >While in Stanford hospital, she wrote the following to be posted
> >after hear death.
> >
> >------
> >
> >To my family, friends, and anyone else interested:
> >
> >After I have died, tell anyone anything you like, ending with this text:
> >
> >Cynthia, widow of Demetrius Duilius Artifex (and of Komi, son of
> >Endreigon, the only husband she had loved, and of Demodoros, whom
> >no one remembered any more), sat dying in her bed.
> >
> >Her daughters, granddaughters, and the household servants were caring
> >for her as she could no longer care for them, but she slipped out
> >through the soles of her feet and into the depths of the earth.
> >
> >The place had not changed much since she had seen it last: its grey
> >colors had faded a trifle, and the stream that had flowed between
> >her and Komi had stopped moving: frozen, perhaps? But she was dead
> >now, and could cross it.
> >
> >The silent dead sat among the trees, the spirits of men and gods
> >and perhaps others, though if her friends the Qualities were
> >here, they too had faded. But two remembered morning stars still
> >shone, Komi's eyes, and she found a place to sit beside him. No
> >one spoke; perhaps it was unlawful, or maybe just impossible.
> >
> >But something that might have been time passed, and now a light
> >shone from the east, filling earth and air with color, and a grat
> >chorus of voices: LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, YOU GATES, AND BE LIFTED
> >UP, YOU EVERLASTING DOORS, THAT THE KING OF GLORY MAY COME IN.
> >
> >who is the King of Glory?
> >
> >THE LORD OF HOSTS: HEIS THE KING OF GLORY
> >
> >(save to file)

Condolences to Hal and the family.

--
Kevin R

Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> (Hal Heydt)
>
> Unfortuneately, it wasn't optimistic. She died Tuesday evening.
>
> I am still overwhelmed by the enormity of her loss. I keep
> looking and the bed where she sat, due to chronic fatigue and
> then ALS. And she's not there. We were married for 51 years.
>
> While in Stanford hospital, she wrote the following to be posted
> after hear death.
>
> ------
>
> To my family, friends, and anyone else interested:
>
> After I have died, tell anyone anything you like, ending with this text:
>
> Cynthia, widow of Demetrius Duilius Artifex (and of Komi, son of
> Endreigon, the only husband she had loved, and of Demodoros, whom
> no one remembered any more), sat dying in her bed.
>
> Her daughters, granddaughters, and the household servants were caring
> for her as she could no longer care for them, but she slipped out
> through the soles of her feet and into the depths of the earth.
>
> The place had not changed much since she had seen it last: its grey
> colors had faded a trifle, and the stream that had flowed between
> her and Komi had stopped moving: frozen, perhaps? But she was dead
> now, and could cross it.
>
> The silent dead sat among the trees, the spirits of men and gods
> and perhaps others, though if her friends the Qualities were
> here, they too had faded. But two remembered morning stars still
> shone, Komi's eyes, and she found a place to sit beside him. No
> one spoke; perhaps it was unlawful, or maybe just impossible.
>
> But something that might have been time passed, and now a light
> shone from the east, filling earth and air with color, and a grat
> chorus of voices: LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, YOU GATES, AND BE LIFTED
> UP, YOU EVERLASTING DOORS, THAT THE KING OF GLORY MAY COME IN.
>
> who is the King of Glory?
>
> THE LORD OF HOSTS: HE IS THE KING OF GLORY
>
> (save to file)

Jn 11:25b-26a "I am the resurrection and the life; he who
believes in me, even if he die, shall live; and whoever
lives and believes in me, shall never die."

# # #

"Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendour in the grass, of glory in the flower,
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind,"

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On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 1:43:01 AM UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
> (Hal Heydt)
>
> Unfortuneately, it wasn't optimistic. She died Tuesday evening.
>
> I am still overwhelmed by the enormity of her loss. I keep
> looking and the bed where she sat, due to chronic fatigue and
> then ALS. And she's not there. We were married for 51 years.
>
> While in Stanford hospital, she wrote the following to be posted
> after hear death.
>
> ------
>
> To my family, friends, and anyone else interested:
>
> After I have died, tell anyone anything you like, ending with this text:
>
> Cynthia, widow of Demetrius Duilius Artifex (and of Komi, son of
> Endreigon, the only husband she had loved, and of Demodoros, whom
> no one remembered any more), sat dying in her bed.
>
> Her daughters, granddaughters, and the household servants were caring
> for her as she could no longer care for them, but she slipped out
> through the soles of her feet and into the depths of the earth.
>
> The place had not changed much since she had seen it last: its grey
> colors had faded a trifle, and the stream that had flowed between
> her and Komi had stopped moving: frozen, perhaps? But she was dead
> now, and could cross it.
>
> The silent dead sat among the trees, the spirits of men and gods
> and perhaps others, though if her friends the Qualities were
> here, they too had faded. But two remembered morning stars still
> shone, Komi's eyes, and she found a place to sit beside him. No
> one spoke; perhaps it was unlawful, or maybe just impossible.
>
> But something that might have been time passed, and now a light
> shone from the east, filling earth and air with color, and a grat
> chorus of voices: LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, YOU GATES, AND BE LIFTED
> UP, YOU EVERLASTING DOORS, THAT THE KING OF GLORY MAY COME IN.
>
> who is the King of Glory?
>
> THE LORD OF HOSTS: HEIS THE KING OF GLORY
>
> (save to file)
I've had that running through my head all day. Partly because it so nicely dovetails Pagan ideas of Hades with Christian ideas of resurrection only after the second coming (or possibly of the harrowing of Hell, if our heroine was pre-Christian), and partly because of the gentle companionship it shows.

In article <4595d2d2-b78d-4f3d-a971-9f9614c7c26dn@googlegroups.com>,
Andrew McDowell <mcdowell_ag@sky.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, June 30, 2022 at 1:43:01 AM UTC+1, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:
>> (Hal Heydt)
>>
>> Unfortuneately, it wasn't optimistic. She died Tuesday evening.
>>
>> I am still overwhelmed by the enormity of her loss. I keep
>> looking and the bed where she sat, due to chronic fatigue and
>> then ALS. And she's not there. We were married for 51 years.
>>
>> While in Stanford hospital, she wrote the following to be posted
>> after hear death.
>>
>> ------
>>
>> To my family, friends, and anyone else interested:
>>
>> After I have died, tell anyone anything you like, ending with this text:
>>
>> Cynthia, widow of Demetrius Duilius Artifex (and of Komi, son of
>> Endreigon, the only husband she had loved, and of Demodoros, whom
>> no one remembered any more), sat dying in her bed.
>>
>> Her daughters, granddaughters, and the household servants were caring
>> for her as she could no longer care for them, but she slipped out
>> through the soles of her feet and into the depths of the earth.
>>
>> The place had not changed much since she had seen it last: its grey
>> colors had faded a trifle, and the stream that had flowed between
>> her and Komi had stopped moving: frozen, perhaps? But she was dead
>> now, and could cross it.
>>
>> The silent dead sat among the trees, the spirits of men and gods
>> and perhaps others, though if her friends the Qualities were
>> here, they too had faded. But two remembered morning stars still
>> shone, Komi's eyes, and she found a place to sit beside him. No
>> one spoke; perhaps it was unlawful, or maybe just impossible.
>>
>> But something that might have been time passed, and now a light
>> shone from the east, filling earth and air with color, and a grat
>> chorus of voices: LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, YOU GATES, AND BE LIFTED
>> UP, YOU EVERLASTING DOORS, THAT THE KING OF GLORY MAY COME IN.
>>
>> who is the King of Glory?
>>
>> THE LORD OF HOSTS: HEIS THE KING OF GLORY
>>
>> (save to file)
>I've had that running through my head all day. Partly because it so
>nicely dovetails Pagan ideas of Hades with Christian ideas of
>resurrection only after the second coming (or possibly of the harrowing
>of Hell, if our heroine was pre-Christian), and partly because of the
>gentle companionship it shows.

Cynthia is 3rd century BCE. She was involed in the First Punic
War. Dorothy, on the other hand, was an adult convert to Roman
Catholicism (before I met her). So what she wrote is, I think, a
synthesis of her development of Cynthia and her own beliefs.

If Dorothy was correct, she is in a better place, and I will tear
the afterlife apart seeking her out. If I am correct, the only
thing left of her will be her writings and the memories of the living.

On 30 Jun 2022 at 20:38:56 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
wrote:

> In article <4595d2d2-b78d-4f3d-a971-9f9614c7c26dn@googlegroups.com>,
> Andrew McDowell <mcdowell_ag@sky.com> wrote:
>> I've had that running through my head all day. Partly because it so
>> nicely dovetails Pagan ideas of Hades with Christian ideas of
>> resurrection only after the second coming (or possibly of the harrowing
>> of Hell, if our heroine was pre-Christian), and partly because of the
>> gentle companionship it shows.
>
> Cynthia is 3rd century BCE. She was involed in the First Punic
> War. Dorothy, on the other hand, was an adult convert to Roman
> Catholicism (before I met her). So what she wrote is, I think, a
> synthesis of her development of Cynthia and her own beliefs.
>
> If Dorothy was correct, she is in a better place, and I will tear
> the afterlife apart seeking her out. If I am correct, the only
> thing left of her will be her writings and the memories of the living.

She'll certainly live on in my memories, after the 25+ years I've
enjoyed chatting with her on Usenet. I'm so sorry for your loss Hal, and
thank you so much for keeping her online all these years. Her strength
of personality and kindness was always present in her writing here too,
not just her formally published works. It is a great loss.

Thanks - Jaimie
--
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.
- Alexander Woollcott

In article <ji6imkFif3nU1@mid.individual.net>,
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@usually.sessile.org> wrote:
>On 30 Jun 2022 at 20:38:56 BST, "Dorothy J Heydt" <Dorothy J Heydt>
>wrote:
>
>> In article <4595d2d2-b78d-4f3d-a971-9f9614c7c26dn@googlegroups.com>,
>> Andrew McDowell <mcdowell_ag@sky.com> wrote:
>>> I've had that running through my head all day. Partly because it so
>>> nicely dovetails Pagan ideas of Hades with Christian ideas of
>>> resurrection only after the second coming (or possibly of the harrowing
>>> of Hell, if our heroine was pre-Christian), and partly because of the
>>> gentle companionship it shows.
>>
>> Cynthia is 3rd century BCE. She was involed in the First Punic
>> War. Dorothy, on the other hand, was an adult convert to Roman
>> Catholicism (before I met her). So what she wrote is, I think, a
>> synthesis of her development of Cynthia and her own beliefs.
>>
>> If Dorothy was correct, she is in a better place, and I will tear
>> the afterlife apart seeking her out. If I am correct, the only
>> thing left of her will be her writings and the memories of the living.
>
>She'll certainly live on in my memories, after the 25+ years I've
>enjoyed chatting with her on Usenet. I'm so sorry for your loss Hal, and
>thank you so much for keeping her online all these years. Her strength
>of personality and kindness was always present in her writing here too,
>not just her formally published works. It is a great loss.

(Hal Heydt)
Thank you.

At the beginning of next May (we set our wedding date for the
weekend after the SCA West Kindom May Coronation Tourney, so it was
8 May 1971), I need to be at the Saturday night bardic session
where an annual memorial for those lost during the year is held.

I have located the notebook with her bardic works and I intend to
recite (do NOT ask me to sing...ever) one of her works. It
started when jokes were going around about how many people from
any given kingdom it took to light a candle. e.g. How many
Calontiri does it take to light a candle? 47. But you should
*see* the ceremony.

She wrote that it didn't take anyone from the West because our
candle has been burning bright since the beginning time (founding
the SCA).

She lit so many candles that light the world, even though her own
has now gone out.

On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 17:28:30 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>In article <ts8pah5c3b5u1j3f9cp4doicgo84u6aek4@4ax.com>,
>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>"I?e been assured she? still alive."
>>
>I've gotten worse;2+ weeks in hospital. Got back last night;
>doesn't look good. More later when I can type.

I think I may have surprised Hal on another forum. I was having an
argument with this guy about some point of engineering and I asked him
"why don't you get an engineering degree and do it then" and he
replied with something about his sick linguist wife (not quoting him
here, that's my paraphrase). I said "Your name wouldn't be 'Hal' by
any chance" and the conversation vanished shortly after.

My apologies to him if that was indeed him and that discussion alarmed
him.

I do hope you make a good recovery.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 00:33:08 GMT, djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
Heydt) wrote:

>(Hal Heydt)
>
>Unfortuneately, it wasn't optimistic. She died Tuesday evening.
>
>I am still overwhelmed by the enormity of her loss. I keep
>looking and the bed where she sat, due to chronic fatigue and
>then ALS. And she's not there. We were married for 51 years.

Oh, fuck. I'm sorry, Hal. She was a wonder.

>While in Stanford hospital, she wrote the following to be posted
>after hear death.
>
>------
>
>To my family, friends, and anyone else interested:
>
>After I have died, tell anyone anything you like, ending with this text:
>
>Cynthia, widow of Demetrius Duilius Artifex (and of Komi, son of
>Endreigon, the only husband she had loved, and of Demodoros, whom
>no one remembered any more), sat dying in her bed.
>
>Her daughters, granddaughters, and the household servants were caring
>for her as she could no longer care for them, but she slipped out
>through the soles of her feet and into the depths of the earth.
>
>The place had not changed much since she had seen it last: its grey
>colors had faded a trifle, and the stream that had flowed between
>her and Komi had stopped moving: frozen, perhaps? But she was dead
>now, and could cross it.
>
>The silent dead sat among the trees, the spirits of men and gods
>and perhaps others, though if her friends the Qualities were
>here, they too had faded. But two remembered morning stars still
>shone, Komi's eyes, and she found a place to sit beside him. No
>one spoke; perhaps it was unlawful, or maybe just impossible.
>
>But something that might have been time passed, and now a light
>shone from the east, filling earth and air with color, and a grat
>chorus of voices: LIFT UP YOUR HEADS, YOU GATES, AND BE LIFTED
>UP, YOU EVERLASTING DOORS, THAT THE KING OF GLORY MAY COME IN.
>
>who is the King of Glory?
>
>THE LORD OF HOSTS: HEIS THE KING OF GLORY
>
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