On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:33:46 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 6:14:58 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> > In article <e517451c-05ce-432a...@googlegroups.com>,
> > Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > >On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 2:50:08 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> > >> In article <mecg5m$tpj$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > >> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> > >> >On 3/18/15 1:22 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> > >> >> In article <meca3p$3ia$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > >> >> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> > >> >>> On 3/18/15 12:31 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> > >> >>>> In article <mec85b$r23$2...@dont-email.me>,
> > >> >>>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>> On 3/17/15 11:36 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> In article <mea08q$8st$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, BCFD36
> > >> >>>>> <bcf...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>> On 3/13/15 3:33 PM, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>> On 3/13/15 4:40 AM, Kay Shapero wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>> A few of my own favorites - no particular order
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> * Dr. Nile Etland, of James H. Schmitz's _Demon Breed_ (Originally
> > >> >>>>>>>>> serialized in Analog as _The Tuvela_ which I find the better title).
> > >> >>>>>>>>> Comes across a stealth alien invasion and proceeds to use
> > >her knowledge
> > >> >>>>>>>>> of the ecology of her surroundings to nearly singlehandedly
> > >throw them
> > >> >>>>>>>>> back off the planet. Schmitz only wrote two stories involving
> > >> >her iirc,
> > >> >>>>>>>>> fortunately she was of a type of character he tended to favor.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> She was on the list, but the dearth of stories didn't
> > >help her.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> * Hubert Hawkins, from "The Court Jester", Danny Kaye's character.
> > >> >>>>>>>>> Never gives up even when it is obvious he probably should, and thus
> > >> >>>>>>>>> manages to pull off the impossible. Not all weapons are immediately
> > >> >>>>>>>>> obvious.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> Heh. The Vessel with the Pestle holds the Pellet with
> > >> >the Poison!
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> The flagon with the dragon holds the brew that is true.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Speaking of heroes who could also do "comic", let my put in my word
> > >> >>>>>> for Xena. I would put her way above Steve Austin. Compelling
> > >backstory,
> > >> >>>>>> real character development (way beyond the initial "warlord of
> > >the week"
> > >> >>>>>> stuff), excellent acting by both leads and in the end she laid down
> > >> >>>>>> her life for what was right.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> I liked Xena, but she was for a long time a Work In Progress/The
> > >> >>>>> Atoner. Gabrielle started out with the spirit, evolved into a hero on
> > >> >>>>> her own. The two made a great pair. I don't think I ever watched it to
> > >> >>>>> the end, though.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Well, yes I'd say that was one of the powerful bits of the show.
> > >> >>>> Xena had done horrible things and could only redeem herself
> > >> >>>> by becoming a hero in full. (And though she didn't realize it
> > >> >>>> at first also find redemption in the love of Gabrielle).
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> (SOME SPOILERS for a 10+ year old show)
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> IMHO, the series really hit its stride in Season 3 with long development
> > >> >>>> arcs, peaked in Season 4 with a year long unavoidable prophecy ending
> > >> >>>> in a stunning moment of violence from Gabrielle and a double
> > >crucifixition.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Season Five was largely regrettable. Tappert left the show in the
> > >> >>>> hands of the Hercules team while he tried (unsuccesfully) to get a
> > >> >>>> Cleo an a Bruce Campbell vehicle off the ground. By that time Xena was
> > >> >>>> so unlike Hercules that it didn't work *at all*.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Season Six was a worthy code, with some drift but lots of excellent
> > >> >>>> episodes and the aforementioned final sacrifice.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I think I stopped after the Dayhog (or however the demon was actually
> > >> >>> spelled) debacle.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> You know, some people here I can guess whether they might like something,
> > >> >> but you are all over the map :-)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> In my mind the "Rift" arc in season 3 (With Dahak)
> > >> >
> > >> > DAHAK? That's what they were saying? Dahak? Jeez. That's sure not what
> > >> >I heard.
> > >> >
> > >> > culminating in
> > >> >> the musical episode "The Bitter Suite" was a series high point.
> > >> >
> > >> > The musical episode I remember was certainly... interesting. I don't
> > >> >generally like "friend fights friend" sequences, and I detest musicals,
> > >> >so the fact that I didn't shut it off probably says something about how
> > >> >well-done it was.
> > >> >
> > >> > The darker something gets, generally the less I like it, and the Dahak
> > >> >storyline got pretty damn dark. About the only thing I remember clearly
> > >> >from one of the later episodes is a sequence in which their success
> > >> >depended on a very quick sequence of events going EXACTLY as planned,
> > >> >and one of those sequences involved Joxer catching and throwing
> > >> >something EXACTLY correctly at just the right time. And not only did he
> > >> >succeed at doing so, it was clear that they *EXPECTED* him to succeed in
> > >> >doing so. Which kinda confirmed my impression that his whole
> > >> >incompetence thing really was his own self-destructive behavior, and he
> > >> >was a total Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass who rarely let the latter
> > >> >part out.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Joxer could be depended upon in *big* things. Like Barney Fife facing
> > >> down the crooks with his one bullet when the chips were down.
> > >>
> > >> Yes the "Rift" was a dark storyline what with rapish-demonic-pregnancy,
> > >> betrayal, the "Gab Drag" and mothers' dashed hopes.
> > >>
> > >> Luckily "Fins, Femmes & Gems" was on the way..
> > >> --
> > >
> > >Wasp may detest musicals, but I LURVVED the "Joxer the Mighty" theme song.
> > >
> > >Kevin R
> >
> > "And he's good with com-pa-nee, golly gee, he's Joxer, Joxer the Mighty!"
> > --
> Revel in its splendor!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3xHC5TU7BE
>
Dead link.

Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote in
news:c0bc26cc-213d-40fd-ba21-f05697046d44n@googlegroups.com:

> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:33:46 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 6:14:58 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan
>> <tednolan> wrote:
>> > In article <e517451c-05ce-432a...@googlegroups.com>,
>> > Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> > >On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 2:50:08 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan
>> > ><tednolan> wrote:
>> > >> In article <mecg5m$tpj$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > >> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>> > >> >On 3/18/15 1:22 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> > >> >> In article <meca3p$3ia$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > >> >> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com>
>> > >> >> wrote:
>> > >> >>> On 3/18/15 12:31 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> > >> >>>> In article <mec85b$r23$2...@dont-email.me>,
>> > >> >>>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com>
>> > >> >>>> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>> On 3/17/15 11:36 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>> In article <mea08q$8st$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> > >> >>>>>> BCFD36
>> > >> >>>>> <bcf...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>> On 3/13/15 3:33 PM, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> On 3/13/15 4:40 AM, Kay Shapero wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> A few of my own favorites - no particular order
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> * Dr. Nile Etland, of James H. Schmitz's _Demon
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Breed_ (Originally serialized in Analog as _The
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Tuvela_ which I find the better title).
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Comes across a stealth alien invasion and
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> proceeds to use
>> > >her knowledge
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> of the ecology of her surroundings to nearly
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> singlehandedly
>> > >throw them
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> back off the planet. Schmitz only wrote two
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> stories involving
>> > >> >her iirc,
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> fortunately she was of a type of character he
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> tended to favor.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> She was on the list, but the dearth of stories
>> > >> >>>>>>>> didn't
>> > >help her.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> * Hubert Hawkins, from "The Court Jester", Danny
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Kaye's character. Never gives up even when it is
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> obvious he probably should, and thus
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> manages to pull off the impossible. Not all
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> weapons are immediately obvious.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Heh. The Vessel with the Pestle holds the Pellet
>> > >> >>>>>>>> with
>> > >> >the Poison!
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> The flagon with the dragon holds the brew that is
>> > >> >>>>>>> true.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> Speaking of heroes who could also do "comic", let
>> > >> >>>>>> my put in my word for Xena. I would put her way
>> > >> >>>>>> above Steve Austin. Compelling
>> > >backstory,
>> > >> >>>>>> real character development (way beyond the initial
>> > >> >>>>>> "warlord of
>> > >the week"
>> > >> >>>>>> stuff), excellent acting by both leads and in the
>> > >> >>>>>> end she laid down her life for what was right.
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> I liked Xena, but she was for a long time a Work In
>> > >> >>>>> Progress/The Atoner. Gabrielle started out with the
>> > >> >>>>> spirit, evolved into a hero on her own. The two made
>> > >> >>>>> a great pair. I don't think I ever watched it to
>> > >> >>>>> the end, though.
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Well, yes I'd say that was one of the powerful bits
>> > >> >>>> of the show. Xena had done horrible things and could
>> > >> >>>> only redeem herself by becoming a hero in full. (And
>> > >> >>>> though she didn't realize it at first also find
>> > >> >>>> redemption in the love of Gabrielle).
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> (SOME SPOILERS for a 10+ year old show)
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> IMHO, the series really hit its stride in Season 3
>> > >> >>>> with long development arcs, peaked in Season 4 with a
>> > >> >>>> year long unavoidable prophecy ending in a stunning
>> > >> >>>> moment of violence from Gabrielle and a double
>> > >crucifixition.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Season Five was largely regrettable. Tappert left the
>> > >> >>>> show in the hands of the Hercules team while he tried
>> > >> >>>> (unsuccesfully) to get a Cleo an a Bruce Campbell
>> > >> >>>> vehicle off the ground. By that time Xena was
>> > >> >>>> so unlike Hercules that it didn't work *at all*.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Season Six was a worthy code, with some drift but
>> > >> >>>> lots of excellent episodes and the aforementioned
>> > >> >>>> final sacrifice.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> I think I stopped after the Dayhog (or however the
>> > >> >>> demon was actually spelled) debacle.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> You know, some people here I can guess whether they
>> > >> >> might like something, but you are all over the map :-)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> In my mind the "Rift" arc in season 3 (With Dahak)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > DAHAK? That's what they were saying? Dahak? Jeez. That's
>> > >> > sure not what
>> > >> >I heard.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > culminating in
>> > >> >> the musical episode "The Bitter Suite" was a series
>> > >> >> high point.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The musical episode I remember was certainly...
>> > >> > interesting. I don't
>> > >> >generally like "friend fights friend" sequences, and I
>> > >> >detest musicals, so the fact that I didn't shut it off
>> > >> >probably says something about how well-done it was.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The darker something gets, generally the less I like it,
>> > >> > and the Dahak
>> > >> >storyline got pretty damn dark. About the only thing I
>> > >> >remember clearly from one of the later episodes is a
>> > >> >sequence in which their success depended on a very quick
>> > >> >sequence of events going EXACTLY as planned, and one of
>> > >> >those sequences involved Joxer catching and throwing
>> > >> >something EXACTLY correctly at just the right time. And
>> > >> >not only did he succeed at doing so, it was clear that
>> > >> >they *EXPECTED* him to succeed in doing so. Which kinda
>> > >> >confirmed my impression that his whole incompetence thing
>> > >> >really was his own self-destructive behavior, and he
>> > >> >was a total Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass who rarely let
>> > >> >the latter part out.
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> Joxer could be depended upon in *big* things. Like Barney
>> > >> Fife facing down the crooks with his one bullet when the
>> > >> chips were down.
>> > >>
>> > >> Yes the "Rift" was a dark storyline what with
>> > >> rapish-demonic-pregnancy, betrayal, the "Gab Drag" and
>> > >> mothers' dashed hopes.
>> > >>
>> > >> Luckily "Fins, Femmes & Gems" was on the way..
>> > >> --
>> > >
>> > >Wasp may detest musicals, but I LURVVED the "Joxer the
>> > >Mighty" theme song.
>> > >
>> > >Kevin R
>> >
>> > "And he's good with com-pa-nee, golly gee, he's Joxer, Joxer
>> > the Mighty!" --
>> Revel in its splendor!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3xHC5TU7BE
>>
> Dead link.
>
> https://youtu.be/2_6qs1K9jrU
> Kevin R
>
Since you're replying to a seven year old post, I'm not surprised.

In article <c0bc26cc-213d-40fd-ba21-f05697046d44n@googlegroups.com>,
Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:33:46 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 6:14:58 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> > In article <e517451c-05ce-432a...@googlegroups.com>,
>> > Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> > >On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 2:50:08 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan
><tednolan> wrote:
>> > >> In article <mecg5m$tpj$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > >> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>> > >> >On 3/18/15 1:22 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> > >> >> In article <meca3p$3ia$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > >> >> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>> On 3/18/15 12:31 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> > >> >>>> In article <mec85b$r23$2...@dont-email.me>,
>> > >> >>>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>> On 3/17/15 11:36 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>> In article <mea08q$8st$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, BCFD36
>> > >> >>>>> <bcf...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>> On 3/13/15 3:33 PM, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>> On 3/13/15 4:40 AM, Kay Shapero wrote:
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> A few of my own favorites - no particular order
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> * Dr. Nile Etland, of James H. Schmitz's _Demon Breed_
>(Originally
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> serialized in Analog as _The Tuvela_ which I find the
>better title).
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Comes across a stealth alien invasion and proceeds to use
>> > >her knowledge
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> of the ecology of her surroundings to nearly singlehandedly
>> > >throw them
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> back off the planet. Schmitz only wrote two stories involving
>> > >> >her iirc,
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> fortunately she was of a type of character he tended to favor.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> She was on the list, but the dearth of stories didn't
>> > >help her.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> * Hubert Hawkins, from "The Court Jester", Danny Kaye's
>character.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> Never gives up even when it is obvious he probably
>should, and thus
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> manages to pull off the impossible. Not all weapons are
>immediately
>> > >> >>>>>>>>> obvious.
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>>> Heh. The Vessel with the Pestle holds the Pellet with
>> > >> >the Poison!
>> > >> >>>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>> The flagon with the dragon holds the brew that is true.
>> > >> >>>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>> Speaking of heroes who could also do "comic", let my put
>in my word
>> > >> >>>>>> for Xena. I would put her way above Steve Austin. Compelling
>> > >backstory,
>> > >> >>>>>> real character development (way beyond the initial "warlord of
>> > >the week"
>> > >> >>>>>> stuff), excellent acting by both leads and in the end she
>laid down
>> > >> >>>>>> her life for what was right.
>> > >> >>>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>> I liked Xena, but she was for a long time a Work In Progress/The
>> > >> >>>>> Atoner. Gabrielle started out with the spirit, evolved into
>a hero on
>> > >> >>>>> her own. The two made a great pair. I don't think I ever
>watched it to
>> > >> >>>>> the end, though.
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>>
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Well, yes I'd say that was one of the powerful bits of the show.
>> > >> >>>> Xena had done horrible things and could only redeem herself
>> > >> >>>> by becoming a hero in full. (And though she didn't realize it
>> > >> >>>> at first also find redemption in the love of Gabrielle).
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> (SOME SPOILERS for a 10+ year old show)
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> IMHO, the series really hit its stride in Season 3 with long
>development
>> > >> >>>> arcs, peaked in Season 4 with a year long unavoidable
>prophecy ending
>> > >> >>>> in a stunning moment of violence from Gabrielle and a double
>> > >crucifixition.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Season Five was largely regrettable. Tappert left the show in the
>> > >> >>>> hands of the Hercules team while he tried (unsuccesfully) to get a
>> > >> >>>> Cleo an a Bruce Campbell vehicle off the ground. By that
>time Xena was
>> > >> >>>> so unlike Hercules that it didn't work *at all*.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>> Season Six was a worthy code, with some drift but lots of excellent
>> > >> >>>> episodes and the aforementioned final sacrifice.
>> > >> >>>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> I think I stopped after the Dayhog (or however the demon was
>actually
>> > >> >>> spelled) debacle.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> You know, some people here I can guess whether they might like
>something,
>> > >> >> but you are all over the map :-)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> In my mind the "Rift" arc in season 3 (With Dahak)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > DAHAK? That's what they were saying? Dahak? Jeez. That's sure not what
>> > >> >I heard.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > culminating in
>> > >> >> the musical episode "The Bitter Suite" was a series high point.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The musical episode I remember was certainly... interesting. I don't
>> > >> >generally like "friend fights friend" sequences, and I detest musicals,
>> > >> >so the fact that I didn't shut it off probably says something about how
>> > >> >well-done it was.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The darker something gets, generally the less I like it, and the Dahak
>> > >> >storyline got pretty damn dark. About the only thing I remember clearly
>> > >> >from one of the later episodes is a sequence in which their success
>> > >> >depended on a very quick sequence of events going EXACTLY as planned,
>> > >> >and one of those sequences involved Joxer catching and throwing
>> > >> >something EXACTLY correctly at just the right time. And not only did he
>> > >> >succeed at doing so, it was clear that they *EXPECTED* him to
>succeed in
>> > >> >doing so. Which kinda confirmed my impression that his whole
>> > >> >incompetence thing really was his own self-destructive behavior, and he
>> > >> >was a total Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass who rarely let the latter
>> > >> >part out.
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> Joxer could be depended upon in *big* things. Like Barney Fife facing
>> > >> down the crooks with his one bullet when the chips were down.
>> > >>
>> > >> Yes the "Rift" was a dark storyline what with rapish-demonic-pregnancy,
>> > >> betrayal, the "Gab Drag" and mothers' dashed hopes.
>> > >>
>> > >> Luckily "Fins, Femmes & Gems" was on the way..
>> > >> --
>> > >
>> > >Wasp may detest musicals, but I LURVVED the "Joxer the Mighty" theme song.
>> > >
>> > >Kevin R
>> >
>> > "And he's good with com-pa-nee, golly gee, he's Joxer, Joxer the Mighty!"
>> > --
>> Revel in its splendor!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3xHC5TU7BE
>>
>Dead link.
>
>https://youtu.be/2_6qs1K9jrU
>Kevin R

On 8/11/2022 1:02 PM, Kevrob wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:33:46 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 6:14:58 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> In article <e517451c-05ce-432a...@googlegroups.com>,
>>> Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 2:50:08 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>> In article <mecg5m$tpj$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/18/15 1:22 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <meca3p$3ia$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/18/15 12:31 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <mec85b$r23$2...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/15 11:36 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <mea08q$8st$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, BCFD36
>>>>>>>>>> <bcf...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/13/15 3:33 PM, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/13/15 4:40 AM, Kay Shapero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A few of my own favorites - no particular order
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Dr. Nile Etland, of James H. Schmitz's _Demon Breed_ (Originally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serialized in Analog as _The Tuvela_ which I find the better title).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comes across a stealth alien invasion and proceeds to use
>>>> her knowledge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the ecology of her surroundings to nearly singlehandedly
>>>> throw them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back off the planet. Schmitz only wrote two stories involving
>>>>>> her iirc,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fortunately she was of a type of character he tended to favor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was on the list, but the dearth of stories didn't
>>>> help her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Hubert Hawkins, from "The Court Jester", Danny Kaye's character.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never gives up even when it is obvious he probably should, and thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manages to pull off the impossible. Not all weapons are immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obvious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh. The Vessel with the Pestle holds the Pellet with
>>>>>> the Poison!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The flagon with the dragon holds the brew that is true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of heroes who could also do "comic", let my put in my word
>>>>>>>>>>> for Xena. I would put her way above Steve Austin. Compelling
>>>> backstory,
>>>>>>>>>>> real character development (way beyond the initial "warlord of
>>>> the week"
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff), excellent acting by both leads and in the end she laid down
>>>>>>>>>>> her life for what was right.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I liked Xena, but she was for a long time a Work In Progress/The
>>>>>>>>>> Atoner. Gabrielle started out with the spirit, evolved into a hero on
>>>>>>>>>> her own. The two made a great pair. I don't think I ever watched it to
>>>>>>>>>> the end, though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, yes I'd say that was one of the powerful bits of the show.
>>>>>>>>> Xena had done horrible things and could only redeem herself
>>>>>>>>> by becoming a hero in full. (And though she didn't realize it
>>>>>>>>> at first also find redemption in the love of Gabrielle).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (SOME SPOILERS for a 10+ year old show)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IMHO, the series really hit its stride in Season 3 with long development
>>>>>>>>> arcs, peaked in Season 4 with a year long unavoidable prophecy ending
>>>>>>>>> in a stunning moment of violence from Gabrielle and a double
>>>> crucifixition.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Season Five was largely regrettable. Tappert left the show in the
>>>>>>>>> hands of the Hercules team while he tried (unsuccesfully) to get a
>>>>>>>>> Cleo an a Bruce Campbell vehicle off the ground. By that time Xena was
>>>>>>>>> so unlike Hercules that it didn't work *at all*.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Season Six was a worthy code, with some drift but lots of excellent
>>>>>>>>> episodes and the aforementioned final sacrifice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I stopped after the Dayhog (or however the demon was actually
>>>>>>>> spelled) debacle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know, some people here I can guess whether they might like something,
>>>>>>> but you are all over the map :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my mind the "Rift" arc in season 3 (With Dahak)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DAHAK? That's what they were saying? Dahak? Jeez. That's sure not what
>>>>>> I heard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> culminating in
>>>>>>> the musical episode "The Bitter Suite" was a series high point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The musical episode I remember was certainly... interesting. I don't
>>>>>> generally like "friend fights friend" sequences, and I detest musicals,
>>>>>> so the fact that I didn't shut it off probably says something about how
>>>>>> well-done it was.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The darker something gets, generally the less I like it, and the Dahak
>>>>>> storyline got pretty damn dark. About the only thing I remember clearly
>>>>> >from one of the later episodes is a sequence in which their success
>>>>>> depended on a very quick sequence of events going EXACTLY as planned,
>>>>>> and one of those sequences involved Joxer catching and throwing
>>>>>> something EXACTLY correctly at just the right time. And not only did he
>>>>>> succeed at doing so, it was clear that they *EXPECTED* him to succeed in
>>>>>> doing so. Which kinda confirmed my impression that his whole
>>>>>> incompetence thing really was his own self-destructive behavior, and he
>>>>>> was a total Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass who rarely let the latter
>>>>>> part out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Joxer could be depended upon in *big* things. Like Barney Fife facing
>>>>> down the crooks with his one bullet when the chips were down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes the "Rift" was a dark storyline what with rapish-demonic-pregnancy,
>>>>> betrayal, the "Gab Drag" and mothers' dashed hopes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Luckily "Fins, Femmes & Gems" was on the way..
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Wasp may detest musicals, but I LURVVED the "Joxer the Mighty" theme song.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin R
>>>
>>> "And he's good with com-pa-nee, golly gee, he's Joxer, Joxer the Mighty!"
>>> --
>> Revel in its splendor!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3xHC5TU7BE
>>
> Dead link.
>
> https://youtu.be/2_6qs1K9jrU
> Kevin R

In article <td3hru$282ul$1@dont-email.me>,
Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 8/11/2022 1:02 PM, Kevrob wrote:
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:33:46 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 6:14:58 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>> In article <e517451c-05ce-432a...@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Kevrob <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 at 2:50:08 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan
><tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <mecg5m$tpj$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/18/15 1:22 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <meca3p$3ia$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/18/15 12:31 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <mec85b$r23$2...@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>> Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) <sea...@sgeinc.invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/17/15 11:36 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <mea08q$8st$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, BCFD36
>>>>>>>>>>> <bcf...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/13/15 3:33 PM, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/13/15 4:40 AM, Kay Shapero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A few of my own favorites - no particular order
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Dr. Nile Etland, of James H. Schmitz's _Demon Breed_
>(Originally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serialized in Analog as _The Tuvela_ which I find the
>better title).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comes across a stealth alien invasion and proceeds to use
>>>>> her knowledge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the ecology of her surroundings to nearly singlehandedly
>>>>> throw them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back off the planet. Schmitz only wrote two stories involving
>>>>>>> her iirc,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fortunately she was of a type of character he tended to favor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was on the list, but the dearth of stories didn't
>>>>> help her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Hubert Hawkins, from "The Court Jester", Danny Kaye's
>character.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never gives up even when it is obvious he probably
>should, and thus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manages to pull off the impossible. Not all weapons are
>immediately
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obvious.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heh. The Vessel with the Pestle holds the Pellet with
>>>>>>> the Poison!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The flagon with the dragon holds the brew that is true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of heroes who could also do "comic", let my put in my word
>>>>>>>>>>>> for Xena. I would put her way above Steve Austin. Compelling
>>>>> backstory,
>>>>>>>>>>>> real character development (way beyond the initial "warlord of
>>>>> the week"
>>>>>>>>>>>> stuff), excellent acting by both leads and in the end she laid down
>>>>>>>>>>>> her life for what was right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I liked Xena, but she was for a long time a Work In Progress/The
>>>>>>>>>>> Atoner. Gabrielle started out with the spirit, evolved into a hero on
>>>>>>>>>>> her own. The two made a great pair. I don't think I ever
>watched it to
>>>>>>>>>>> the end, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes I'd say that was one of the powerful bits of the show.
>>>>>>>>>> Xena had done horrible things and could only redeem herself
>>>>>>>>>> by becoming a hero in full. (And though she didn't realize it
>>>>>>>>>> at first also find redemption in the love of Gabrielle).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (SOME SPOILERS for a 10+ year old show)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, the series really hit its stride in Season 3 with long
>development
>>>>>>>>>> arcs, peaked in Season 4 with a year long unavoidable prophecy ending
>>>>>>>>>> in a stunning moment of violence from Gabrielle and a double
>>>>> crucifixition.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Season Five was largely regrettable. Tappert left the show in the
>>>>>>>>>> hands of the Hercules team while he tried (unsuccesfully) to get a
>>>>>>>>>> Cleo an a Bruce Campbell vehicle off the ground. By that time Xena was
>>>>>>>>>> so unlike Hercules that it didn't work *at all*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Season Six was a worthy code, with some drift but lots of excellent
>>>>>>>>>> episodes and the aforementioned final sacrifice.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think I stopped after the Dayhog (or however the demon was actually
>>>>>>>>> spelled) debacle.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You know, some people here I can guess whether they might like
>something,
>>>>>>>> but you are all over the map :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In my mind the "Rift" arc in season 3 (With Dahak)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DAHAK? That's what they were saying? Dahak? Jeez. That's sure not what
>>>>>>> I heard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> culminating in
>>>>>>>> the musical episode "The Bitter Suite" was a series high point.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The musical episode I remember was certainly... interesting. I don't
>>>>>>> generally like "friend fights friend" sequences, and I detest musicals,
>>>>>>> so the fact that I didn't shut it off probably says something about how
>>>>>>> well-done it was.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The darker something gets, generally the less I like it, and the Dahak
>>>>>>> storyline got pretty damn dark. About the only thing I remember clearly
>>>>>> >from one of the later episodes is a sequence in which their success
>>>>>>> depended on a very quick sequence of events going EXACTLY as planned,
>>>>>>> and one of those sequences involved Joxer catching and throwing
>>>>>>> something EXACTLY correctly at just the right time. And not only did he
>>>>>>> succeed at doing so, it was clear that they *EXPECTED* him to succeed in
>>>>>>> doing so. Which kinda confirmed my impression that his whole
>>>>>>> incompetence thing really was his own self-destructive behavior, and he
>>>>>>> was a total Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass who rarely let the latter
>>>>>>> part out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joxer could be depended upon in *big* things. Like Barney Fife facing
>>>>>> down the crooks with his one bullet when the chips were down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes the "Rift" was a dark storyline what with rapish-demonic-pregnancy,
>>>>>> betrayal, the "Gab Drag" and mothers' dashed hopes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Luckily "Fins, Femmes & Gems" was on the way..
>>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasp may detest musicals, but I LURVVED the "Joxer the Mighty" theme song.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin R
>>>>
>>>> "And he's good with com-pa-nee, golly gee, he's Joxer, Joxer the Mighty!"
>>>> --
>>> Revel in its splendor!
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3xHC5TU7BE
>>>
>> Dead link.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/2_6qs1K9jrU
>> Kevin R
>
>Yes, I have been noticing a lot of linkrot on youtube lately. Not good.
>
>Lynn
>

Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> writes:
>Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote in
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:33:46 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3xHC5TU7BE
>>>
>> Dead link.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/2_6qs1K9jrU
>> Kevin R
>>
>Since you're replying to a seven year old post, I'm not surprised.

looks like he was replying to himself, to update the link.

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in news:FucJK.731757
$ntj.606700@fx15.iad:

> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> writes:
>>Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote in
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 12:33:46 PM UTC-4, Kevrob wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3xHC5TU7BE
>>>>
>>> Dead link.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/2_6qs1K9jrU
>>> Kevin R
>>>
>>Since you're replying to a seven year old post, I'm not surprised.
>
> looks like he was replying to himself, to update the link.
>
It still seems unlikely that anyone else will care.

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