On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:

> I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’ or
> something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
> the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
> The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
> explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>

How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
yet not recall where it was published?

On 27/08/2022 03.00, Charles Packer wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>
>> I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’ or
>> something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
>> the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
>> The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
>> explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>>
>
> How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
> yet not recall where it was published?

Since Wolffan said that it made the cover of MF&SF, I don't quite see
why you're saying they don't recall where it was published.

--
Michael F. Stemper
A preposition is something you should never end a sentence with.

Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> on Sat, 27 Aug 2022 08:00:05 GMT
typed in rec.arts.sf.written the following:
>On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>
>> I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’ or
>> something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
>> the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
>> The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
>> explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>>
>
>How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
>yet not recall where it was published?

Easily.

I plowed through the libraries collection of SciFi when I was in
the 8th grade.
I remember plots & characters. Titles? Authors? Not so well.
--
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Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

On Saturday, 27 August 2022 at 17:42:10 UTC+1, pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Charles Packer <mai...@cpacker.org> on Sat, 27 Aug 2022 08:00:05 GMT
> typed in rec.arts.sf.written the following:
> >On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
> >
> >> I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’ or
> >> something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
> >> the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
> >> The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
> >> explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
> >>
> >
> >How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
> >yet not recall where it was published?
> Easily.
>
> I plowed through the libraries collection of SciFi when I was in
> the 8th grade.
> I remember plots & characters. Titles? Authors? Not so well.

I suppose you remember where you were when you
read it - the planet Oceanus or whatever, I expect.

Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> on Sat, 27 Aug 2022 12:16:46
-0700 (PDT) typed in rec.arts.sf.written the following:
>On Saturday, 27 August 2022 at 17:42:10 UTC+1, pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> Charles Packer <mai...@cpacker.org> on Sat, 27 Aug 2022 08:00:05 GMT
>> typed in rec.arts.sf.written the following:
>> >On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’ or
>> >> something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
>> >> the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
>> >> The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
>> >> explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>> >>
>> >
>> >How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
>> >yet not recall where it was published?
>> Easily.
>>
>> I plowed through the libraries collection of SciFi when I was in
>> the 8th grade.
>> I remember plots & characters. Titles? Authors? Not so well.
>
>I suppose you remember where you were when you
>read it - the planet Oceanus or whatever, I expect.

AH, let me see ... where was I when I was ...? Massachusetts?
--
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Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)

On 27 Aug 2022, Charles Packer wrote
(in article <9akOK.123772$Ae2.123481@fx35.iad>):

> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>
> > I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’
> > or
> > something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
> > the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
> > The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
> > explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>
> How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
> yet not recall where it was published?

I remembered the cover, I remember approximately when I read it and where I
read it: I borrowed it from the county library when I was in university. That
put an upper limit on when it was published, as I got too busy to borrow SF
mags from the library during my junior and senior years. The magazine was in
excellent condition, which put a lower limit on when the library got it.

And very few paser pistols are named ‘Esmerelda’.

On 27 Aug 2022, Wolffan wrote
(in article<0001HW.28BAE3670046E1A270000FCAD38F@news.supernews.com>):

> On 27 Aug 2022, Charles Packer wrote
> (in article <9akOK.123772$Ae2.123481@fx35.iad>):
>
> > On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
> >
> > > I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’
> > > or
> > > something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
> > > the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
> > > The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
> > > explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
> >
> > How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
> > yet not recall where it was published?
>
> I remembered the cover, I remember approximately when I read it and where I
> read it: I borrowed it from the county library when I was in university. That
> put an upper limit on when it was published, as I got too busy to borrow SF
> mags from the library during my junior and senior years. The magazine was in
> excellent condition, which put a lower limit on when the library got it.
>
> And very few paser pistols are named ‘Esmerelda’.

laser pistols, damn it. laser pistols.

On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 5:42:37 PM UTC-6, Wolffan wrote:

> And very few paser pistols are named ‘Esmerelda’.

I thought I might have had it with "The Ark of Humanity" by
Scott Toney, but no, it isn't old enough.

John Savard

On Sunday, 28 August 2022 at 02:31:00 UTC+1, Wolffan wrote:
> On 27 Aug 2022, Wolffan wrote
> (in article<0001HW.28BAE36700...@news.supernews.com>):
> > On 27 Aug 2022, Charles Packer wrote
> > (in article <9akOK.123772$Ae2.1...@fx35.iad>):
> >
> > > On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’
> > > > or
> > > > something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
> > > > the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
> > > > The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
> > > > explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
> > >
> > > How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
> > > yet not recall where it was published?
> >
> > I remembered the cover, I remember approximately when I read it and where I
> > read it: I borrowed it from the county library when I was in university.. That
> > put an upper limit on when it was published, as I got too busy to borrow SF
> > mags from the library during my junior and senior years. The magazine was in
> > excellent condition, which put a lower limit on when the library got it..
> >
> > And very few paser pistols are named ‘Esmerelda’.
> laser pistols, damn it. laser pistols.

I would accept "phase pistols" or "phasers".

Tools of casual violence are dehumanising, and
perhaps not quite the right way to address that is
<https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ICallItVera>

Which states that the legendary Davy Crockett
owned three guns named Betsy and many a
!fictional person who "either has a sentimental
attachment to said weapon, is a veteran from
some war, is a major Gun Nut, is a person who
lost their love and still remembers them, is
generally insane, or is some combination of the
above", does similarly. I think I read a lot of
"The Saint" stories where I think Hoppy Uniatz's
firearm "Betsy" was more often used as a club to
inflict survivable head injury.

On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
<phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> on Sat, 27 Aug 2022 08:00:05 GMT
>typed in rec.arts.sf.written the following:
>>On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>>
>>> I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’ or
>>> something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
>>> the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
>>> The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
>>> explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>>>
>>
>>How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
>>yet not recall where it was published?
>
> Easily.
>
> I plowed through the libraries collection of SciFi when I was in
>the 8th grade.
> I remember plots & characters. Titles? Authors? Not so well.

By then, I had read every single book in the appropriate section of
the local public library.

And, when they insisted I could not read anything else, I discovered
-- used book stores.

I can't say I never returned to the public library -- but a cord was
definitely broken and I never used them as a primary resource for
fiction again.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

In article <aa89fb74-e447-4a1f-8e34-64d178c80348n@googlegroups.com>,
Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, 28 August 2022 at 02:31:00 UTC+1, Wolffan wrote:
>> On 27 Aug 2022, Wolffan wrote
>> (in article<0001HW.28BAE36700...@news.supernews.com>):
>> > On 27 Aug 2022, Charles Packer wrote
>> > (in article <9akOK.123772$Ae2.1...@fx35.iad>):
>> >
>> > > On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or
>‘Silent Sea’
>> > > > or
>> > > > something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the
>author. It made
>> > > > the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very
>early 1980s.
>> > > > The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with
>lots of
>> > > > explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>> > >
>> > > How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
>> > > yet not recall where it was published?
>> >
>> > I remembered the cover, I remember approximately when I read it and where I
>> > read it: I borrowed it from the county library when I was in
>university. That
>> > put an upper limit on when it was published, as I got too busy to borrow SF
>> > mags from the library during my junior and senior years. The
>magazine was in
>> > excellent condition, which put a lower limit on when the library got it.
>> >
>> > And very few paser pistols are named ‘Esmerelda’.
>> laser pistols, damn it. laser pistols.
>
>I would accept "phase pistols" or "phasers".
>
>Tools of casual violence are dehumanising, and
>perhaps not quite the right way to address that is
><https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ICallItVera>
>
>Which states that the legendary Davy Crockett
>owned three guns named Betsy and many a
>!fictional person who "either has a sentimental
>attachment to said weapon, is a veteran from
>some war, is a major Gun Nut, is a person who
>lost their love and still remembers them, is
>generally insane, or is some combination of the
>above", does similarly. I think I read a lot of
>"The Saint" stories where I think Hoppy Uniatz's
>firearm "Betsy" was more often used as a club to
>inflict survivable head injury.

Didn't either Buck Godot and/or one of his rivals have named
(and sentient) guns?
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 12:36:53 PM UTC-5, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <aa89fb74-e447-4a1f...@googlegroups.com>,
> Robert Carnegie <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
> >On Sunday, 28 August 2022 at 02:31:00 UTC+1, Wolffan wrote:
> >> On 27 Aug 2022, Wolffan wrote
> >> (in article<0001HW.28BAE36700...@news.supernews.com>):
> >> > On 27 Aug 2022, Charles Packer wrote
> >> > (in article <9akOK.123772$Ae2.1...@fx35.iad>):
> >> >
> >> > > On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or
> >‘Silent Sea’
> >> > > > or
> >> > > > something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the
> >author. It made
> >> > > > the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very
> >early 1980s.
> >> > > > The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with
> >lots of
> >> > > > explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
> >> > >
> >> > > How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
> >> > > yet not recall where it was published?
> >> >
> >> > I remembered the cover, I remember approximately when I read it and where I
> >> > read it: I borrowed it from the county library when I was in
> >university. That
> >> > put an upper limit on when it was published, as I got too busy to borrow SF
> >> > mags from the library during my junior and senior years. The
> >magazine was in
> >> > excellent condition, which put a lower limit on when the library got it.
> >> >
> >> > And very few paser pistols are named ‘Esmerelda’.
> >> laser pistols, damn it. laser pistols.
> >
> >I would accept "phase pistols" or "phasers".
> >
> >Tools of casual violence are dehumanising, and
> >perhaps not quite the right way to address that is
> ><https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ICallItVera>
> >
> >Which states that the legendary Davy Crockett
> >owned three guns named Betsy and many a
> >!fictional person who "either has a sentimental
> >attachment to said weapon, is a veteran from
> >some war, is a major Gun Nut, is a person who
> >lost their love and still remembers them, is
> >generally insane, or is some combination of the
> >above", does similarly. I think I read a lot of
> >"The Saint" stories where I think Hoppy Uniatz's
> >firearm "Betsy" was more often used as a club to
> >inflict survivable head injury.
> Didn't either Buck Godot and/or one of his rivals have named
> (and sentient) guns?
> --

In _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ another Slayer casually refers
to her stake as "Mr. Pointy." Buffy stares at her in incredulity
and says, "You NAMED your STAKE?"

Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist

In article <jn1ndgFknheU1@mid.individual.net>,
Ted Nolan <tednolan> <tednolan> wrote:
>In article <aa89fb74-e447-4a1f-8e34-64d178c80348n@googlegroups.com>,
>Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>>On Sunday, 28 August 2022 at 02:31:00 UTC+1, Wolffan wrote:
>>> On 27 Aug 2022, Wolffan wrote
>>> (in article<0001HW.28BAE36700...@news.supernews.com>):
>>> > On 27 Aug 2022, Charles Packer wrote
>>> > (in article <9akOK.123772$Ae2.1...@fx35.iad>):
>>> >
>>> > > On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or
>>‘Silent Sea’
>>> > > > or
>>> > > > something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the
>>author. It made
>>> > > > the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very
>>early 1980s.
>>> > > > The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with
>>lots of
>>> > > > explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>>> > >
>>> > > How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
>>> > > yet not recall where it was published?
>>> >
>>> > I remembered the cover, I remember approximately when I read it and
>where I
>>> > read it: I borrowed it from the county library when I was in
>>university. That
>>> > put an upper limit on when it was published, as I got too busy to
>borrow SF
>>> > mags from the library during my junior and senior years. The
>>magazine was in
>>> > excellent condition, which put a lower limit on when the library got it.
>>> >
>>> > And very few paser pistols are named ‘Esmerelda’.
>>> laser pistols, damn it. laser pistols.
>>
>>I would accept "phase pistols" or "phasers".
>>
>>Tools of casual violence are dehumanising, and
>>perhaps not quite the right way to address that is
>><https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ICallItVera>
>>
>>Which states that the legendary Davy Crockett
>>owned three guns named Betsy and many a
>>!fictional person who "either has a sentimental
>>attachment to said weapon, is a veteran from
>>some war, is a major Gun Nut, is a person who
>>lost their love and still remembers them, is
>>generally insane, or is some combination of the
>>above", does similarly. I think I read a lot of
>>"The Saint" stories where I think Hoppy Uniatz's
>>firearm "Betsy" was more often used as a club to
>>inflict survivable head injury.
>
>Didn't either Buck Godot and/or one of his rivals have named
>(and sentient) guns?

(Hal Heydt)
Rival/competitor, the Pistol Packing Pack Rat.

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 09:41:59 -0700, pyotr filipivich
> <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org> on Sat, 27 Aug 2022 08:00:05 GMT
>>typed in rec.arts.sf.written the following:
>>>On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that the name of the story was ?Quiet Sea? or ?Silent Sea? or
>>>> something similar, but I can?t remember the. name of the author. It made
>>>> the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
>>>> The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
>>>> explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>>>>
>>>
>>>How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
>>>yet not recall where it was published?
>>
>> Easily.
>>
>> I plowed through the libraries collection of SciFi when I was in
>>the 8th grade.
>> I remember plots & characters. Titles? Authors? Not so well.
>
> By then, I had read every single book in the appropriate section of
> the local public library.
>
> And, when they insisted I could not read anything else, I discovered
> -- used book stores.

Our local library system had rules dictating what could be checked out based
on age, but no equivalent rules about what sections one could browse in. I
chose the books from the adult section, took them to the front desk and my mom
dropped her card on top of the stack.
I eventually exhausted the supply anyway and began begging the parents for
book money (mostly for new books...no decent used stores anywhere close).

Robert
--
Robert K. Shull Email: rkshull at rosettacon dot com

On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 08:00:05 GMT, Charles Packer <mailbox@cpacker.org>
wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:31:33 -0400, Wolffan wrote:
>
>> I think that the name of the story was ‘Quiet Sea’ or ‘Silent Sea’ or
>> something similar, but I can’t remember the. name of the author. It made
>> the cover of a MF&SF issue from, I think, the 1970s or very early 1980s.
>> The illustration was of a large galleon style sailing ship, with lots of
>> explosions up in the sky. The plot was:
>>
>
>How can somebody remember that much detail about a story and
>yet not recall where it was published?

I can recall several Philip K Dick books in great detail yet have no
clue on the publication data. (I get as close as "early 60s" for
publication date without having to look things up)