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* "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersLynn McGuire
`* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersScott Lurndal
 `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersLynn McGuire
  `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersPaul S Person
   `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersLynn McGuire
    +- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many otherspete...@gmail.com
    +* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
    |`- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    +* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    |+* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersLynn McGuire
    ||`* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    || `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersLynn McGuire
    ||  +* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersNinapenda Jibini
    ||  |`* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersPaul S Person
    ||  | +* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersDimensional Traveler
    ||  | |+- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    ||  | |`* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersPaul S Person
    ||  | | +* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    ||  | | |`- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersPaul S Person
    ||  | | `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersDimensional Traveler
    ||  | |  +- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersNinapenda Jibini
    ||  | |  `- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersPaul S Person
    ||  | `- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    ||  `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersMagewolf
    ||   `- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    |`* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersPaul S Person
    | `- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    +* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersDimensional Traveler
    |`* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersLynn McGuire
    | `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersNinapenda Jibini
    |  +* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersScott Lurndal
    |  |+- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    |  |`* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    |  | `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersTitus G
    |  |  `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersScott Lurndal
    |  |   +- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    |  |   `- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersLynn McGuire
    |  `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many otherspete...@gmail.com
    |   +* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
    |   |`* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersPaul S Person
    |   | +* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersAndrew McDowell
    |   | |+* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersDimensional Traveler
    |   | ||+- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersMagewolf
    |   | ||`- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    |   | |`- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersPaul S Person
    |   | `- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    |   `- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
    `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersPaul S Person
     `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersScott Lurndal
      `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersLynn McGuire
       `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
        `* Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersDorothy J Heydt
         +- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersJibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
         `- Re: "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many othersLynn McGuire

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 by: Ninapenda Jibini - Fri, 23 Sep 2022 04:25 UTC

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in
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> On 9/22/2022 9:05 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 12:32:54 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/21/2022 10:03 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 05:23:52 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:tgdne4$1klqe$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/20/2022 6:42 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:tgdb30$1jms9$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/20/2022 4:14 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:tgd81l$1jb3c$3@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/20/2022 11:26 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:03:43 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>>>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/2022 2:11 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Freehold-Resistance-Michael-Z
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Will ia ms on/dp/1982124237/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultra-right-wing libertarian fantasies with an evil
>>>>>>>>>>>>> UN. Right up Lynn's alley.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One of the ... lesser ... films I watched during the
>>>>>>>>>>> Pandemic (when standards were reduced in favor of
>>>>>>>>>>> having something to watch) was one about a guy who
>>>>>>>>>>> departs his unit and heads home as the UN is taking
>>>>>>>>>>> over the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It was very low budget; the UN Helicopter was blue,
>>>>>>>>>>> not black. And the attack force on their compound was
>>>>>>>>>>> about 1 platoon, with one (1) machine gun mounted on a
>>>>>>>>>>> wheeled truck.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But the defensive weaponry was very imaginative. If
>>>>>>>>>>> you ignored the fact that an entire company, attacking
>>>>>>>>>>> from four sides, would have run right over them, the
>>>>>>>>>>> battle was actually quite exciting. Especially when
>>>>>>>>>>> the heros fired up their /own/ helicopter and had an
>>>>>>>>>>> aerial duel with the UN's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You may be thinking "well, it was just one small
>>>>>>>>>>> compound, why send an entire company to clean out 6
>>>>>>>>>>> people?" -- the guy had, on tape, proof of the evil UN
>>>>>>>>>>> plan and the troops were there to recover and suppress
>>>>>>>>>>> it. So it was a very important mission indeed!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The point is, this stuff can be very exciting. Even if
>>>>>>>>>>> disbelief refuses to be suspended. And the budget is
>>>>>>>>>>> very low.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I watched a recent Bruce Willis movie on Netflix. All
>>>>>>>>>> the time I was saying to myself, I cannot believe I am
>>>>>>>>>> watching this crap. I managed to kill it halfway
>>>>>>>>>> through. Now it taunts me from the "currently
>>>>>>>>>> watching" queue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It can't be any worse than Velocipastor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wanna bet ? "Breach". Even the trailer sucks.
>>>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9820556/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you *seen* Velocipastor? It has lower production
>>>>>>> values than Ator: The Fighting Eagle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought you had a typo and meant Velociraptor instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> In point of fact, the tale goes that it started as an
>>>>> autocorrect on the part of the guy behind it on his phone,
>>>>> when it "fixed" velociraptor to velocipaster. He noted it,
>>>>> and though he had to do something *with* it eventually. In
>>>>> film school, he made a trailer for a film he never expected
>>>>> to actually exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then he made the film.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the heartwarming tale of a priest who has a crisis of
>>>>> faith (actual quote: "So your parents died, Dave. Parents do
>>>>> that."), goes on a journey of self discovery, and gets
>>>>> turned into a were- dinosaur. After which, he fights drug
>>>>> dealing ninjas with his prostitute girlfriend.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not as bad as it sounds. It's *much* worse. The entire
>>>>> budget consisted of the change the found in the couch, and
>>>>> most of the props appeared to be ordered with bubble gum
>>>>> wrappers. I suspect they spent most of the budget on the
>>>>> cover art for the DVD, which looks *nothing* like the
>>>>> dinaosaur costume in the movie (which was originally made
>>>>> for a high school film club film that, once the principal
>>>>> saw the script, he wouldn't let them actualy make). They
>>>>> couldn't even afford a long stick to hold it upright, so
>>>>> it's a hunchbacked dinosaur. In the opening scene, Our
>>>>> Hero's parents are killed when their car explodes. In a
>>>>> Hollywood movie, there would be either expensive CGI, or a
>>>>> lot of rubber cement and a refugee
>>>> >from a junkyard. That, of course, was too expensive. In a
>>>> >Troma
>>>>> movie, it would be a plastic model car and some
>>>>> firecrackers. That, too, was too expensive. So that scene
>>>>> consists a static shot of an empty parking spot on the side
>>>>> of a street, with a caption of "Burning Car", cutting back
>>>>> and forth between that and Our Hero's agonized screams. It
>>>>> sets the tone for the entire movie very accurately.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know how stuntment can throw a punch that looks real
>>>>> without actually making contact? Assuming, of course, the
>>>>> cinemetographer knows what he's doing and gets the right
>>>>> angles. Well, stuntmen are too expensive, and the
>>>>> cinematographer was apparently somebody's iPhone strapped to
>>>>> a dog's butt, and you can clearly see the combatants are at
>>>>> *least* five feet apart. The older priest was cast
>>>>> specifcally *beacuse* he had the worst audition.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend it highly, if you have a taste for so bad it's
>>>>> good.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope,
>>>>>> there is a Velocipastor movie. However, it scored 5.0 out
>>>>>> of 10 stars with 6,200 reviews on IMDB.
>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1843303/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a lot of people who appreciate movies so bad
>>>>> they're good. That's the step beyond just bad, you know.
>>>>> There is a realm beyond so bad it's good where it's so bad
>>>>> it's just bad, but there's very few films that reach it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Breach scored 2.9 out of 10 stars with 18,000 reviews. The
>>>>>> scary thing is that 3,005 reviewers gave it 10 stars ! But
>>>>>> 3,672 reviewers gave it one star.
>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9820556/
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's in the normal bad range, if at the bottom of it.
>>>>
>>>> /The VelociPastor/ has, on IMDb, a 5.0 rating by 6.2K raters.
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember it with any particular fondness. I would
>>>> probably never have thought of it again had it not been
>>>> brought up. But 6.2K raters is enough people to suggest that
>>>> the 5.0 is pretty firm.
>>>
>>> The VelociPastor 2 Is Officially Happening
>>>
>>> https://movieweb.com/the-velocipastor-2-announced/
>>>
>>> Article is from March 11, 2020 but still....
>>
>> It can take a long time for this sort of thing to get going.
>>
>> That does, however, suggest a bit of popularity.
>>
>> And some films that are announced never get made.
>
> "Some"? I didn't know 75 to 90% was "some". ;)
>
It fits within several definitions:


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 by: Paul S Person - Fri, 23 Sep 2022 15:43 UTC

On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 09:11:35 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>news:eq1pih95nlpt1ne1ppdieer0eqssqlu4gr@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 12:32:54 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On 9/21/2022 10:03 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 05:23:52 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:tgdne4$1klqe$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/20/2022 6:42 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:tgdb30$1jms9$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/20/2022 4:14 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:tgd81l$1jb3c$3@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/20/2022 11:26 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:03:43 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>>>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/2022 2:11 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Freehold-Resistance-Michael-Z-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will ia ms on/dp/1982124237/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultra-right-wing libertarian fantasies with an evil
>>>>>>>>>>>>> UN. Right up Lynn's alley.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One of the ... lesser ... films I watched during the
>>>>>>>>>>> Pandemic (when standards were reduced in favor of
>>>>>>>>>>> having something to watch) was one about a guy who
>>>>>>>>>>> departs his unit and heads home as the UN is taking
>>>>>>>>>>> over the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It was very low budget; the UN Helicopter was blue, not
>>>>>>>>>>> black. And the attack force on their compound was about
>>>>>>>>>>> 1 platoon, with one (1) machine gun mounted on a
>>>>>>>>>>> wheeled truck.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But the defensive weaponry was very imaginative. If you
>>>>>>>>>>> ignored the fact that an entire company, attacking from
>>>>>>>>>>> four sides, would have run right over them, the battle
>>>>>>>>>>> was actually quite exciting. Especially when the heros
>>>>>>>>>>> fired up their /own/ helicopter and had an aerial duel
>>>>>>>>>>> with the UN's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You may be thinking "well, it was just one small
>>>>>>>>>>> compound, why send an entire company to clean out 6
>>>>>>>>>>> people?" -- the guy had, on tape, proof of the evil UN
>>>>>>>>>>> plan and the troops were there to recover and suppress
>>>>>>>>>>> it. So it was a very important mission indeed!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The point is, this stuff can be very exciting. Even if
>>>>>>>>>>> disbelief refuses to be suspended. And the budget is
>>>>>>>>>>> very low.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I watched a recent Bruce Willis movie on Netflix. All
>>>>>>>>>> the time I was saying to myself, I cannot believe I am
>>>>>>>>>> watching this crap. I managed to kill it halfway
>>>>>>>>>> through. Now it taunts me from the "currently watching"
>>>>>>>>>> queue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It can't be any worse than Velocipastor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wanna bet ? "Breach". Even the trailer sucks.
>>>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9820556/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you *seen* Velocipastor? It has lower production
>>>>>>> values than Ator: The Fighting Eagle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought you had a typo and meant Velociraptor instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> In point of fact, the tale goes that it started as an
>>>>> autocorrect on the part of the guy behind it on his phone,
>>>>> when it "fixed" velociraptor to velocipaster. He noted it,
>>>>> and though he had to do something *with* it eventually. In
>>>>> film school, he made a trailer for a film he never expected
>>>>> to actually exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then he made the film.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the heartwarming tale of a priest who has a crisis of
>>>>> faith (actual quote: "So your parents died, Dave. Parents do
>>>>> that."), goes on a journey of self discovery, and gets turned
>>>>> into a were- dinosaur. After which, he fights drug dealing
>>>>> ninjas with his prostitute girlfriend.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not as bad as it sounds. It's *much* worse. The entire
>>>>> budget consisted of the change the found in the couch, and
>>>>> most of the props appeared to be ordered with bubble gum
>>>>> wrappers. I suspect they spent most of the budget on the
>>>>> cover art for the DVD, which looks *nothing* like the
>>>>> dinaosaur costume in the movie (which was originally made for
>>>>> a high school film club film that, once the principal saw the
>>>>> script, he wouldn't let them actualy make). They couldn't
>>>>> even afford a long stick to hold it upright, so it's a
>>>>> hunchbacked dinosaur. In the opening scene, Our Hero's
>>>>> parents are killed when their car explodes. In a Hollywood
>>>>> movie, there would be either expensive CGI, or a lot of
>>>>> rubber cement and a refugee
>>>>>from a junkyard. That, of course, was too expensive. In a
>>>>>Troma
>>>>> movie, it would be a plastic model car and some firecrackers.
>>>>> That, too, was too expensive. So that scene consists a static
>>>>> shot of an empty parking spot on the side of a street, with a
>>>>> caption of "Burning Car", cutting back and forth between that
>>>>> and Our Hero's agonized screams. It sets the tone for the
>>>>> entire movie very accurately.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know how stuntment can throw a punch that looks real
>>>>> without actually making contact? Assuming, of course, the
>>>>> cinemetographer knows what he's doing and gets the right
>>>>> angles. Well, stuntmen are too expensive, and the
>>>>> cinematographer was apparently somebody's iPhone strapped to
>>>>> a dog's butt, and you can clearly see the combatants are at
>>>>> *least* five feet apart. The older priest was cast
>>>>> specifcally *beacuse* he had the worst audition.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend it highly, if you have a taste for so bad it's
>>>>> good.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope,
>>>>>> there is a Velocipastor movie. However, it scored 5.0 out
>>>>>> of 10 stars with 6,200 reviews on IMDB.
>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1843303/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a lot of people who appreciate movies so bad
>>>>> they're good. That's the step beyond just bad, you know.
>>>>> There is a realm beyond so bad it's good where it's so bad
>>>>> it's just bad, but there's very few films that reach it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Breach scored 2.9 out of 10 stars with 18,000 reviews. The
>>>>>> scary thing is that 3,005 reviewers gave it 10 stars ! But
>>>>>> 3,672 reviewers gave it one star.
>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9820556/
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's in the normal bad range, if at the bottom of it.
>>>>
>>>> /The VelociPastor/ has, on IMDb, a 5.0 rating by 6.2K raters.
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember it with any particular fondness. I would
>>>> probably never have thought of it again had it not been
>>>> brought up. But 6.2K raters is enough people to suggest that
>>>> the 5.0 is pretty firm.
>>>
>>>The VelociPastor 2 Is Officially Happening
>>>
>>>https://movieweb.com/the-velocipastor-2-announced/
>>>
>>>Article is from March 11, 2020 but still....
>>
>> It can take a long time for this sort of thing to get going.
>>
>> That does, however, suggest a bit of popularity.
>>
>> And some films that are announced never get made.
>
>For values of "some" that equate to "most." If not "overwhelmingly
>most."


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On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 20:27:06 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 9/22/2022 9:05 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 12:32:54 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/21/2022 10:03 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 05:23:52 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
>>>> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:tgdne4$1klqe$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/20/2022 6:42 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:tgdb30$1jms9$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/20/2022 4:14 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:tgd81l$1jb3c$3@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/20/2022 11:26 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:03:43 -0500, Lynn McGuire
>>>>>>>>>>> <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/19/2022 2:11 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Freehold: Resistance" by Michael Z. Williamson and many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Freehold-Resistance-Michael-Z-Will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ia ms on/dp/1982124237/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultra-right-wing libertarian fantasies with an evil UN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right up Lynn's alley.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> One of the ... lesser ... films I watched during the
>>>>>>>>>>> Pandemic (when standards were reduced in favor of having
>>>>>>>>>>> something to watch) was one about a guy who departs his
>>>>>>>>>>> unit and heads home as the UN is taking over the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It was very low budget; the UN Helicopter was blue, not
>>>>>>>>>>> black. And the attack force on their compound was about 1
>>>>>>>>>>> platoon, with one (1) machine gun mounted on a wheeled
>>>>>>>>>>> truck.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But the defensive weaponry was very imaginative. If you
>>>>>>>>>>> ignored the fact that an entire company, attacking from
>>>>>>>>>>> four sides, would have run right over them, the battle was
>>>>>>>>>>> actually quite exciting. Especially when the heros fired up
>>>>>>>>>>> their /own/ helicopter and had an aerial duel with the
>>>>>>>>>>> UN's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You may be thinking "well, it was just one small compound,
>>>>>>>>>>> why send an entire company to clean out 6 people?" -- the
>>>>>>>>>>> guy had, on tape, proof of the evil UN plan and the troops
>>>>>>>>>>> were there to recover and suppress it. So it was a very
>>>>>>>>>>> important mission indeed!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The point is, this stuff can be very exciting. Even if
>>>>>>>>>>> disbelief refuses to be suspended. And the budget is very
>>>>>>>>>>> low.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I watched a recent Bruce Willis movie on Netflix. All the
>>>>>>>>>> time I was saying to myself, I cannot believe I am watching
>>>>>>>>>> this crap. I managed to kill it halfway through. Now it
>>>>>>>>>> taunts me from the "currently watching" queue.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It can't be any worse than Velocipastor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wanna bet ? "Breach". Even the trailer sucks.
>>>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9820556/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you *seen* Velocipastor? It has lower production values
>>>>>>> than Ator: The Fighting Eagle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought you had a typo and meant Velociraptor instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> In point of fact, the tale goes that it started as an autocorrect
>>>>> on the part of the guy behind it on his phone, when it "fixed"
>>>>> velociraptor to velocipaster. He noted it, and though he had to do
>>>>> something *with* it eventually. In film school, he made a trailer
>>>>> for a film he never expected to actually exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then he made the film.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the heartwarming tale of a priest who has a crisis of faith
>>>>> (actual quote: "So your parents died, Dave. Parents do that."),
>>>>> goes on a journey of self discovery, and gets turned into a were-
>>>>> dinosaur. After which, he fights drug dealing ninjas with his
>>>>> prostitute girlfriend.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not as bad as it sounds. It's *much* worse. The entire budget
>>>>> consisted of the change the found in the couch, and most of the
>>>>> props appeared to be ordered with bubble gum wrappers. I suspect
>>>>> they spent most of the budget on the cover art for the DVD, which
>>>>> looks *nothing* like the dinaosaur costume in the movie (which was
>>>>> originally made for a high school film club film that, once the
>>>>> principal saw the script, he wouldn't let them actualy make). They
>>>>> couldn't even afford a long stick to hold it upright, so it's a
>>>>> hunchbacked dinosaur. In the opening scene, Our Hero's parents are
>>>>> killed when their car explodes. In a Hollywood movie, there would
>>>>> be either expensive CGI, or a lot of rubber cement and a refugee
>>>> >from a junkyard. That, of course, was too expensive. In a Troma
>>>>> movie, it would be a plastic model car and some firecrackers. That,
>>>>> too, was too expensive. So that scene consists a static shot of an
>>>>> empty parking spot on the side of a street, with a caption of
>>>>> "Burning Car", cutting back and forth between that and Our Hero's
>>>>> agonized screams. It sets the tone for the entire movie very
>>>>> accurately.
>>>>>
>>>>> You know how stuntment can throw a punch that looks real without
>>>>> actually making contact? Assuming, of course, the cinemetographer
>>>>> knows what he's doing and gets the right angles. Well, stuntmen are
>>>>> too expensive, and the cinematographer was apparently somebody's
>>>>> iPhone strapped to a dog's butt, and you can clearly see the
>>>>> combatants are at *least* five feet apart. The older priest was
>>>>> cast specifcally *beacuse* he had the worst audition.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recommend it highly, if you have a taste for so bad it's good.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope,
>>>>>> there is a Velocipastor movie. However, it scored 5.0 out of 10
>>>>>> stars with 6,200 reviews on IMDB.
>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1843303/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a lot of people who appreciate movies so bad they're
>>>>> good. That's the step beyond just bad, you know. There is a realm
>>>>> beyond so bad it's good where it's so bad it's just bad, but
>>>>> there's very few films that reach it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Breach scored 2.9 out of 10 stars with 18,000 reviews. The
>>>>>> scary thing is that 3,005 reviewers gave it 10 stars ! But
>>>>>> 3,672 reviewers gave it one star.
>>>>>> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9820556/
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's in the normal bad range, if at the bottom of it.
>>>>
>>>> /The VelociPastor/ has, on IMDb, a 5.0 rating by 6.2K raters.
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember it with any particular fondness. I would probably
>>>> never have thought of it again had it not been brought up. But 6.2K
>>>> raters is enough people to suggest that the 5.0 is pretty firm.
>>>
>>> The VelociPastor 2 Is Officially Happening
>>>
>>> https://movieweb.com/the-velocipastor-2-announced/
>>>
>>> Article is from March 11, 2020 but still....
>>
>> It can take a long time for this sort of thing to get going.
>>
>> That does, however, suggest a bit of popularity.
>>
>> And some films that are announced never get made.
>
>"Some"? I didn't know 75 to 90% was "some". ;)


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 by: Lynn McGuire - Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:29 UTC

On 9/22/2022 8:49 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> writes:
>> On 22/09/22 09:22, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote in news:fDEWK.637437
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>>>> Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:tgdoog$1kpko$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>>>> You should do a search on Mr. Willis' health over the last few
>>>>>>> years.
>>
>> I recognise few actors but Willis was great in Pulp Fiction and Sixth
>> Sense and his face was advertised a lot so I was interested enough to
>> search and am saddened.
>
> Don't forget the best christmas movie ever.... _Die Hard_.

+1

Wow, we agree on something, that is a first.

Lynn

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