Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
news:ti78s8$1ip1v$1@dont-email.me:

> On 10/12/2022 3:15 PM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:ti70l4$1i7fr$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 10/12/2022 8:40 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>> wrote:
>>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>> news:0553ad15-6a34-4f3d-ab75-cd4de1cba639n@googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:11:00 PM UTC-6, Jibini
>>>>> Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>> news:36da922d-e599-4188...@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that one cause of that is that there never was
>>>>>>> such a meeting. Greta Thunberg *chose herself* - she went
>>>>>>> forwards to add her voice to those of others speaking out
>>>>>>> against global warming. That she has captured the
>>>>>>> imaginations of many young people is only to her credit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you name a single actual expert in the field who has
>>>>>> pointed out she doesn't know her ass from a whole in the
>>>>>> ground, and condemned the press for taking her seriously?
>>>>>> Neither can I. Or anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't it wonderful that we live in a world where you don't
>>>>> need to be a medical doctor to know what to do to protect
>>>>> yourself from the COVID-19 pandemic?
>>>>
>>>> Because people who actually are doctors have informed you.
>>>>
>>>> Listening to Greta Thunberg on climate change is *exactly* as
>>>> stupid as listening to Donald Trump on COVID. Neither knows
>>>> shit about the subject, and you're too fucking *stupid* know
>>>> understand it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You just need to listen to the people who are recognized
>>>>> experts in the field.
>>>>
>>>> Which does not include Greta Thunberg.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greta Thunberg isn't a climate scientist herself. But when
>>>>> it comes to the issue of anthropogenic global warming, she
>>>>> did have the basic discernment which _is_ expected of every
>>>>> citizen; she listened to the recognized experts, not the
>>>>> eccentrics, or the oil company shills, or the conspiracy
>>>>> theorists.
>>>>>
>>>> Trump had recgnized experts advising him on COVID. That makes
>>>> him *exaclty* as credible on that subject as Thunberg is on
>>>> climate change.
>>>
>>> Wait, are you saying that Dr. Fauci, who has never been a
>>> practicing medical doctor, and scarf lady are not credible ?
>>> Oh the insanity !
>>>
>> Fauci at least had some medical training, and however much of a
>> weasel attention whore he is now, that training was, in fact,
>> in the field. I have no idea who "scarf lady" is, but I'll bet
>> she least had a high school diploma, unlike Thunberg when she
>> because a sock puppet.
>
> Scarf lady is Dr. Deborah Birx.
>
> https://www.inquirer.com/fashion/dr-deborah-birx-anthony-fauci-sc
> arves-fashion-masks-20200423.html
>
Again, as a physician, she has far more medical education, traning
and experience than Greta Sock Puppet. If she'd recommend literally
sacrificing babies to Satan, she'd still be more credible.

--
Terry Austin

Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

In article <dPI1L.70499$SqO3.39663@fx02.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 1:09:03 PM UTC-6, Kevrob wrote:
>>> Do I think he and his colleagues
>>> in the governmental health complex tend to deprecate human
>liberty in favor of giving
>>> themselves sometimes unconstitutional power?
>>
>>To quote a famous Republican President (G. W. Bush, when
>explaining Guantanamo to
>>the American people - but he was quoting someone else) "The
>Constitution is not a
>>suicide pact".
>>
>
>I thought that was Tom Clancy who wrote that.

If only there was some way to look this stuff up before posting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Constitution_is_not_a_suicide_pact
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On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 8:18:22 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
> >On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 1:09:03 PM UTC-6, Kevrob wrote:
> >> Do I think he and his colleagues
> >> in the governmental health complex tend to deprecate human liberty in favor of giving
> >> themselves sometimes unconstitutional power?
> >
> >To quote a famous Republican President (G. W. Bush, when explaining Guantanamo to
> >the American people - but he was quoting someone else) "The Constitution is not a
> >suicide pact".
> >
> I thought that was Tom Clancy who wrote that.

Its a lot older than that. The 1963 formulation seems very close.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Constitution_is_not_a_suicide_pact

pt

"pete...@gmail.com" <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 8:18:22 PM UTC-4, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>> >On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 1:09:03 PM UTC-6, Kevrob wrote:
>> >> Do I think he and his colleagues
>> >> in the governmental health complex tend to deprecate human liberty in favor of giving
>> >> themselves sometimes unconstitutional power?
>> >
>> >To quote a famous Republican President (G. W. Bush, when explaining Guantanamo to
>> >the American people - but he was quoting someone else) "The Constitution is not a
>> >suicide pact".
>> >
>> I thought that was Tom Clancy who wrote that.
>
>Its a lot older than that. The 1963 formulation seems very close.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Constitution_is_not_a_suicide_pact
>

Sigh, I guess I should have included a smiley.

On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 12:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 10/12/2022 8:40 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> > Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>> > news:0553ad15-6a34-4f3d...@googlegroups.com:
>> >
>> >> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:11:00 PM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
>> >> Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> >>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>> >>> news:36da922d-e599-4188...@googlegroups.com:
>> >>
>> >>>> I think that one cause of that is that there never was such a
>> >>>> meeting. Greta Thunberg *chose herself* - she went forwards
>> >>>> to add her voice to those of others speaking out against
>> >>>> global warming. That she has captured the imaginations of
>> >>>> many young people is only to her credit.
>> >>
>> >>> Can you name a single actual expert in the field who has
>> >>> pointed out she doesn't know her ass from a whole in the
>> >>> ground, and condemned the press for taking her seriously?
>> >>> Neither can I. Or anyone else.
>> >>
>> >> Isn't it wonderful that we live in a world where you don't need
>> >> to be a medical doctor to know what to do to protect yourself
>> >> from the COVID-19 pandemic?
>> >
>> > Because people who actually are doctors have informed you.
>> >
>> > Listening to Greta Thunberg on climate change is *exactly* as
>> > stupid as listening to Donald Trump on COVID. Neither knows shit
>> > about the subject, and you're too fucking *stupid* know understand
>> > it.
>> >>
>> >> You just need to listen to the people who are recognized experts
>> >> in the field.
>> >
>> > Which does not include Greta Thunberg.
>> >>
>> >> Greta Thunberg isn't a climate scientist herself. But when it
>> >> comes to the issue of anthropogenic global warming, she did have
>> >> the basic discernment which _is_ expected of every citizen; she
>> >> listened to the recognized experts, not the eccentrics, or the
>> >> oil company shills, or the conspiracy theorists.
>> >>
>> > Trump had recgnized experts advising him on COVID. That makes him
>> > *exaclty* as credible on that subject as Thunberg is on climate
>> > change.
>> Wait, are you saying that Dr. Fauci, who has never been a practicing
>> medical doctor, and scarf lady are not credible ? Oh the insanity !
>>
>
>Whose lies are you falling for, Lynn?

At a guess, Trump's. Or some other semi-fascist ultra-MAGA Republican.

>[quote]
>
>Fauci then did an internship and residency in internal medicine at New York
>Hospital-Cornell Medical Center (now Weill Cornell Medical Center).
>
>[/quote] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci#Early_life_and_education
>
>While known as a researcher and administrator, he still saw patients.
>
>[quote]
>
>However, in a statement emailed to FactCheck.org, the NIAID rebutted Oz’s claims about Fauci.
>
>"Dr. Fauci is currently a senior attending physician at the National Institutes of Health Clinical
>Center where he has been seeing patients continually for the past 54 years since his infectious
>diseases fellowship that began in 1968," the NIAID said. "He has seen, consulted on and/or personally
>taken care of literally thousands of patients over the years at the NIH Clinical Center. He has never
>stopped seeing patients, and he still makes regular Clinical Rounds at the NIH Clinical Center, including
>COVID-19 patients."
>
>"He is not just a ‘virologist," the NIAID statement continued. "[R]ather he is an immunologist/infectious
>diseases expert who is board certified by the American Board of Internal Medicine, the American Board
>of Infectious Diseases and the American Board of Allergy and Immunology. He is internationally recognized
>for his basic and clinical research contributions to HIV and other areas of human health."
>
>[/quote]
>
>https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/dr-fauci-still-treats-patients-contrary-to-dr-ozs-claim/
>
>Do I think he responded perfectly to the pandemic? No. Do I think he and his colleagues
>in the governmental health complex tend to deprecate human liberty in favor of giving
>themselves sometimes unconstitutional power? Sometime, they do His opponents
>don't have to lie about what kind of medic he is.

But lying is what they /do/.

They cannot help themselves.

Lying is the very core of their being.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:13:29 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> writes:
>>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:ti70l4$1i7fr$2@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 10/12/2022 8:40 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>> news:0553ad15-6a34-4f3d-ab75-cd4de1cba639n@googlegroups.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:11:00 PM UTC-6, Jibini Kula
>>>>> Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>> news:36da922d-e599-4188...@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that one cause of that is that there never was such
>>>>>>> a meeting. Greta Thunberg *chose herself* - she went
>>>>>>> forwards to add her voice to those of others speaking out
>>>>>>> against global warming. That she has captured the
>>>>>>> imaginations of many young people is only to her credit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you name a single actual expert in the field who has
>>>>>> pointed out she doesn't know her ass from a whole in the
>>>>>> ground, and condemned the press for taking her seriously?
>>>>>> Neither can I. Or anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't it wonderful that we live in a world where you don't
>>>>> need to be a medical doctor to know what to do to protect
>>>>> yourself from the COVID-19 pandemic?
>>>>
>>>> Because people who actually are doctors have informed you.
>>>>
>>>> Listening to Greta Thunberg on climate change is *exactly* as
>>>> stupid as listening to Donald Trump on COVID. Neither knows
>>>> shit about the subject, and you're too fucking *stupid* know
>>>> understand it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You just need to listen to the people who are recognized
>>>>> experts in the field.
>>>>
>>>> Which does not include Greta Thunberg.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greta Thunberg isn't a climate scientist herself. But when it
>>>>> comes to the issue of anthropogenic global warming, she did
>>>>> have the basic discernment which _is_ expected of every
>>>>> citizen; she listened to the recognized experts, not the
>>>>> eccentrics, or the oil company shills, or the conspiracy
>>>>> theorists.
>>>>>
>>>> Trump had recgnized experts advising him on COVID. That makes
>>>> him *exaclty* as credible on that subject as Thunberg is on
>>>> climate change.
>>>
>>> Wait, are you saying that Dr. Fauci, who has never been a
>>> practicing medical doctor, and scarf lady are not credible ? Oh
>>> the insanity !
>>>
>>Fauci at least had some medical training,
>
>Not just training, but 50 years of regular practice, as well.

That's a lot of practice.

Reminds me of my last manager: she once told us that, when her husband
got sick, they found out why doctors are only said to /practice/
medicine.

And it wasn't intended as a compliment.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 12:59:28 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 10/12/2022 10:20 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 14:05:40 -0000 (UTC), danny burstein
>> <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In <bec6cfa2-c455-419d-9c91-bbb8b3f5b965n@googlegroups.com> "pete...@gmail.com" <petertrei@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>> I've swum outdoors, in Iceland, in late August. Plenty of bikinis to be
>>>> seen. Was toasty warm.
>>>
>>>> Geothermal pools are neat like that.
>>>
>>>> https://www.bluelagoon.com/
>>>
>>>> Its actually the cooling pond for a geothermal power station, but the
>>>> publicity doesn't dwell on that.
>>>
>>> Uh, oh. Keep an eye out for
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamera,_the_Giant_Monster
>>>
>>> He doesn't like geothermal power plants...
>>
>> Well, maybe.
>>
>> But since he came from the sea, it may simply have been the first
>> energy source he found.
>>
>> And he loves small children!
>
>Barbecued or Steamed?

The films eventually devolved into a simple formula:

young child gets into trouble
Gamera saves young child

Note that there is at least one Evil Monster in each film for Gamera
to save the planet from.

There's even a theme song about how children love Gamera because he is
on their side. Well, you can't save the kids without saving the
parents as well.

Note: the later reboot tones this down a bit, but only a bit. It also
reveals that Gamera was invented by Atlanteans as a counter to an
earlier experiment in Monster Creation which went horribly wrong. This
is not quite the same as the original story.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
news:9gegkhlr6p9qnsc4c9um8580afk6p9vej6@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:13:29 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott
> Lurndal) wrote:
>
>>Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> writes:
>>>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>news:ti70l4$1i7fr$2@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 10/12/2022 8:40 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>> news:0553ad15-6a34-4f3d-ab75-cd4de1cba639n@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:11:00 PM UTC-6, Jibini
>>>>>> Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>>>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:36da922d-e599-4188...@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that one cause of that is that there never was
>>>>>>>> such a meeting. Greta Thunberg *chose herself* - she went
>>>>>>>> forwards to add her voice to those of others speaking out
>>>>>>>> against global warming. That she has captured the
>>>>>>>> imaginations of many young people is only to her credit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you name a single actual expert in the field who has
>>>>>>> pointed out she doesn't know her ass from a whole in the
>>>>>>> ground, and condemned the press for taking her seriously?
>>>>>>> Neither can I. Or anyone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't it wonderful that we live in a world where you don't
>>>>>> need to be a medical doctor to know what to do to protect
>>>>>> yourself from the COVID-19 pandemic?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because people who actually are doctors have informed you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Listening to Greta Thunberg on climate change is *exactly*
>>>>> as stupid as listening to Donald Trump on COVID. Neither
>>>>> knows shit about the subject, and you're too fucking
>>>>> *stupid* know understand it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You just need to listen to the people who are recognized
>>>>>> experts in the field.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which does not include Greta Thunberg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greta Thunberg isn't a climate scientist herself. But when
>>>>>> it comes to the issue of anthropogenic global warming, she
>>>>>> did have the basic discernment which _is_ expected of every
>>>>>> citizen; she listened to the recognized experts, not the
>>>>>> eccentrics, or the oil company shills, or the conspiracy
>>>>>> theorists.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Trump had recgnized experts advising him on COVID. That
>>>>> makes him *exaclty* as credible on that subject as Thunberg
>>>>> is on climate change.
>>>>
>>>> Wait, are you saying that Dr. Fauci, who has never been a
>>>> practicing medical doctor, and scarf lady are not credible ?
>>>> Oh the insanity !
>>>>
>>>Fauci at least had some medical training,
>>
>>Not just training, but 50 years of regular practice, as well.
>
> That's a lot of practice.
>
> Reminds me of my last manager: she once told us that, when her
> husband got sick, they found out why doctors are only said to
> /practice/ medicine.
>
> And it wasn't intended as a compliment.

If you were deathly ill, who would you prefer treat you? A licensed
doctor with 50 years of practice, or Greta Thunberg?

Serious question.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
news:g7egkh1cto5ba1g5jgulqot767ncqha7dj@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 12:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob
> <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 2:22:33 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire
>>wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2022 8:40 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>> wrote:
>>> > Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>> > news:0553ad15-6a34-4f3d...@googlegroups.com:
>>> >
>>> >> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:11:00 PM UTC-6, Jibini
>>> >> Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> >>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>> >>> news:36da922d-e599-4188...@googlegroups.com:
>>> >>
>>> >>>> I think that one cause of that is that there never was
>>> >>>> such a meeting. Greta Thunberg *chose herself* - she went
>>> >>>> forwards to add her voice to those of others speaking out
>>> >>>> against global warming. That she has captured the
>>> >>>> imaginations of many young people is only to her credit.
>>> >>
>>> >>> Can you name a single actual expert in the field who has
>>> >>> pointed out she doesn't know her ass from a whole in the
>>> >>> ground, and condemned the press for taking her seriously?
>>> >>> Neither can I. Or anyone else.
>>> >>
>>> >> Isn't it wonderful that we live in a world where you don't
>>> >> need to be a medical doctor to know what to do to protect
>>> >> yourself from the COVID-19 pandemic?
>>> >
>>> > Because people who actually are doctors have informed you.
>>> >
>>> > Listening to Greta Thunberg on climate change is *exactly*
>>> > as stupid as listening to Donald Trump on COVID. Neither
>>> > knows shit about the subject, and you're too fucking
>>> > *stupid* know understand it.
>>> >>
>>> >> You just need to listen to the people who are recognized
>>> >> experts in the field.
>>> >
>>> > Which does not include Greta Thunberg.
>>> >>
>>> >> Greta Thunberg isn't a climate scientist herself. But when
>>> >> it comes to the issue of anthropogenic global warming, she
>>> >> did have the basic discernment which _is_ expected of every
>>> >> citizen; she listened to the recognized experts, not the
>>> >> eccentrics, or the oil company shills, or the conspiracy
>>> >> theorists.
>>> >>
>>> > Trump had recgnized experts advising him on COVID. That
>>> > makes him *exaclty* as credible on that subject as Thunberg
>>> > is on climate change.
>>> Wait, are you saying that Dr. Fauci, who has never been a
>>> practicing medical doctor, and scarf lady are not credible ?
>>> Oh the insanity !
>>>
>>
>>Whose lies are you falling for, Lynn?
>
> At a guess, Trump's. Or some other semi-fascist ultra-MAGA
> Republican.
>
>>[quote]
>>
>>Fauci then did an internship and residency in internal medicine
>>at New York Hospital-Cornell Medical Center (now Weill Cornell
>>Medical Center).
>>
>>[/quote] -
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci#Early_life_and_educat
>>ion
>>
>>While known as a researcher and administrator, he still saw
>>patients.
>>
>>[quote]
>>
>>However, in a statement emailed to FactCheck.org, the NIAID
>>rebutted Oz�s claims about Fauci.
>>
>>"Dr. Fauci is currently a senior attending physician at the
>>National Institutes of Health Clinical Center where he has been
>>seeing patients continually for the past 54 years since his
>>infectious diseases fellowship that began in 1968," the NIAID
>>said. "He has seen, consulted on and/or personally taken care of
>>literally thousands of patients over the years at the NIH
>>Clinical Center. He has never stopped seeing patients, and he
>>still makes regular Clinical Rounds at the NIH Clinical Center,
>>including COVID-19 patients."
>>
>>"He is not just a �virologist," the NIAID statement continued.
>>"[R]ather he is an immunologist/infectious diseases expert who
>>is board certified by the American Board of Internal Medicine,
>>the American Board of Infectious Diseases and the American Board
>>of Allergy and Immunology. He is internationally recognized for
>>his basic and clinical research contributions to HIV and other
>>areas of human health."
>>
>>[/quote]
>>
>>https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/dr-fauci-still-treats-patients-
>>contrary-to-dr-ozs-claim/
>>
>>Do I think he responded perfectly to the pandemic? No. Do I
>>think he and his colleagues in the governmental health complex
>>tend to deprecate human liberty in favor of giving themselves
>>sometimes unconstitutional power? Sometime, they do His
>>opponents don't have to lie about what kind of medic he is.
>
> But lying is what they /do/.

Yeah, lefties do that. A lot.
>
> They cannot help themselves.

Indeed, they cannot.
>
> Lying is the very core of their being.

It is certainly a core value of the left, yes. It seems to be
patholotical for most; they literally *can't* tell the truth, even
when it better serves them.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On 2022-10-13 11:02, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> Not just training, but 50 years of regular practice, as well.
>> That's a lot of practice.
>>
>> Reminds me of my last manager: she once told us that, when her
>> husband got sick, they found out why doctors are only said to
>> /practice/ medicine.
>>
>> And it wasn't intended as a compliment.
> If you were deathly ill, who would you prefer treat you? A licensed
> doctor with 50 years of practice, or Greta Thunberg?
>
> Serious question.

Serious question:

Are you aware that "spokesperson" and "expert" mean two different things?

:-)

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 11:02:03 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:

>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>news:9gegkhlr6p9qnsc4c9um8580afk6p9vej6@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:13:29 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott
>> Lurndal) wrote:
>>
>>>Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>news:ti70l4$1i7fr$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/12/2022 8:40 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>> news:0553ad15-6a34-4f3d-ab75-cd4de1cba639n@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:11:00 PM UTC-6, Jibini
>>>>>>> Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>>>>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:36da922d-e599-4188...@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that one cause of that is that there never was
>>>>>>>>> such a meeting. Greta Thunberg *chose herself* - she went
>>>>>>>>> forwards to add her voice to those of others speaking out
>>>>>>>>> against global warming. That she has captured the
>>>>>>>>> imaginations of many young people is only to her credit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you name a single actual expert in the field who has
>>>>>>>> pointed out she doesn't know her ass from a whole in the
>>>>>>>> ground, and condemned the press for taking her seriously?
>>>>>>>> Neither can I. Or anyone else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Isn't it wonderful that we live in a world where you don't
>>>>>>> need to be a medical doctor to know what to do to protect
>>>>>>> yourself from the COVID-19 pandemic?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because people who actually are doctors have informed you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Listening to Greta Thunberg on climate change is *exactly*
>>>>>> as stupid as listening to Donald Trump on COVID. Neither
>>>>>> knows shit about the subject, and you're too fucking
>>>>>> *stupid* know understand it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You just need to listen to the people who are recognized
>>>>>>> experts in the field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which does not include Greta Thunberg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greta Thunberg isn't a climate scientist herself. But when
>>>>>>> it comes to the issue of anthropogenic global warming, she
>>>>>>> did have the basic discernment which _is_ expected of every
>>>>>>> citizen; she listened to the recognized experts, not the
>>>>>>> eccentrics, or the oil company shills, or the conspiracy
>>>>>>> theorists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump had recgnized experts advising him on COVID. That
>>>>>> makes him *exaclty* as credible on that subject as Thunberg
>>>>>> is on climate change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait, are you saying that Dr. Fauci, who has never been a
>>>>> practicing medical doctor, and scarf lady are not credible ?
>>>>> Oh the insanity !
>>>>>
>>>>Fauci at least had some medical training,
>>>
>>>Not just training, but 50 years of regular practice, as well.
>>
>> That's a lot of practice.
>>
>> Reminds me of my last manager: she once told us that, when her
>> husband got sick, they found out why doctors are only said to
>> /practice/ medicine.
>>
>> And it wasn't intended as a compliment.
>
>If you were deathly ill, who would you prefer treat you? A licensed
>doctor with 50 years of practice, or Greta Thunberg?

Nobody.

And, since I've been obese most of my life (maybe not the first decade
to decade & a half), I am considered "deathly ill" by doctors with 50
years of practice.

>Serious question.

Serious answer.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
news:c42jkh5as05h7t0o862frqeb5ftrf50nvo@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 11:02:03 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
> Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>>news:9gegkhlr6p9qnsc4c9um8580afk6p9vej6@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Oct 2022 21:13:29 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott
>>> Lurndal) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com>
>>>>writes:
>>>>>Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:ti70l4$1i7fr$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/12/2022 8:40 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:0553ad15-6a34-4f3d-ab75-cd4de1cba639n@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 12:11:00 PM UTC-6, Jibini
>>>>>>>> Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:36da922d-e599-4188...@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that one cause of that is that there never was
>>>>>>>>>> such a meeting. Greta Thunberg *chose herself* - she
>>>>>>>>>> went forwards to add her voice to those of others
>>>>>>>>>> speaking out against global warming. That she has
>>>>>>>>>> captured the imaginations of many young people is only
>>>>>>>>>> to her credit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you name a single actual expert in the field who has
>>>>>>>>> pointed out she doesn't know her ass from a whole in the
>>>>>>>>> ground, and condemned the press for taking her
>>>>>>>>> seriously? Neither can I. Or anyone else.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Isn't it wonderful that we live in a world where you
>>>>>>>> don't need to be a medical doctor to know what to do to
>>>>>>>> protect yourself from the COVID-19 pandemic?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because people who actually are doctors have informed you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Listening to Greta Thunberg on climate change is *exactly*
>>>>>>> as stupid as listening to Donald Trump on COVID. Neither
>>>>>>> knows shit about the subject, and you're too fucking
>>>>>>> *stupid* know understand it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You just need to listen to the people who are recognized
>>>>>>>> experts in the field.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which does not include Greta Thunberg.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greta Thunberg isn't a climate scientist herself. But
>>>>>>>> when it comes to the issue of anthropogenic global
>>>>>>>> warming, she did have the basic discernment which _is_
>>>>>>>> expected of every citizen; she listened to the recognized
>>>>>>>> experts, not the eccentrics, or the oil company shills,
>>>>>>>> or the conspiracy theorists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump had recgnized experts advising him on COVID. That
>>>>>>> makes him *exaclty* as credible on that subject as
>>>>>>> Thunberg is on climate change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait, are you saying that Dr. Fauci, who has never been a
>>>>>> practicing medical doctor, and scarf lady are not credible
>>>>>> ? Oh the insanity !
>>>>>>
>>>>>Fauci at least had some medical training,
>>>>
>>>>Not just training, but 50 years of regular practice, as well.
>>>
>>> That's a lot of practice.
>>>
>>> Reminds me of my last manager: she once told us that, when her
>>> husband got sick, they found out why doctors are only said to
>>> /practice/ medicine.
>>>
>>> And it wasn't intended as a compliment.
>>
>>If you were deathly ill, who would you prefer treat you? A
>>licensed doctor with 50 years of practice, or Greta Thunberg?
>
> Nobody.

Cause of death: Stupidity. Or Suicide.

Either way, the world will be a better place.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> schrieb:
> Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>
>>"Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>news:tht9rt$d859$1@dont-email.me:
>
>>> I don't see that as big concern for papers. Of course, all the
>>> Lee Enterprise papers dropped at least the Sunday strip as part
>>> of the recent move to regularize the comics lineup.
>
>>Given Adams' other political screeds, I can't help but wonder if it's
>>a dig at Greta Thunberg. Rather more subtle than usual for him, but
>>if the woke crowd decides that's what it is, yeah, there will be . .
>>. trouble.
>
> Oh, hmm. Yeah, maybe. It hadn't occurred to me and I don't know how
> many reading the comics will think of that either. She hasn't been in
> the news much lately.

She was over here, for recommending nuclear power.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 00:18:17 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 1:09:03 PM UTC-6, Kevrob wrote:
>>> Do I think he and his colleagues
>>> in the governmental health complex tend to deprecate human liberty in favor of giving
>>> themselves sometimes unconstitutional power?
>>
>>To quote a famous Republican President (G. W. Bush, when explaining Guantanamo to
>>the American people - but he was quoting someone else) "The Constitution is not a
>>suicide pact".
>>
>
>I thought that was Tom Clancy who wrote that.

With all due respect, Wikipedia attributes that quote to a Republican
president considerably more illustrious than G W Bush....probably the
most illustrrious Republican of them all

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Constitution_is_not_a_suicide_pact

and in a considerably different context than either Bush 41 or Clancy.

On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:50:37 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig
<tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:

>Default User <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> schrieb:
>> Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
>>
>>>"Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>news:tht9rt$d859$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>>> I don't see that as big concern for papers. Of course, all the
>>>> Lee Enterprise papers dropped at least the Sunday strip as part
>>>> of the recent move to regularize the comics lineup.
>>
>>>Given Adams' other political screeds, I can't help but wonder if it's
>>>a dig at Greta Thunberg. Rather more subtle than usual for him, but
>>>if the woke crowd decides that's what it is, yeah, there will be . .
>>>. trouble.
>>
>> Oh, hmm. Yeah, maybe. It hadn't occurred to me and I don't know how
>> many reading the comics will think of that either. She hasn't been in
>> the news much lately.
>
>She was over here, for recommending nuclear power.

In someone else's neighborhood -- indeed, country -- no doubt.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 11:44:27 AM UTC-4, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:50:37 -0000 (UTC), Thomas Koenig
> <tko...@netcologne.de> wrote:
>
> >Default User <defaul...@yahoo.com> schrieb:
> >> Ninapenda Jibini wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Default User" <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >>>news:tht9rt$d859$1...@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>>> I don't see that as big concern for papers. Of course, all the
> >>>> Lee Enterprise papers dropped at least the Sunday strip as part
> >>>> of the recent move to regularize the comics lineup.
> >>
> >>>Given Adams' other political screeds, I can't help but wonder if it's
> >>>a dig at Greta Thunberg. Rather more subtle than usual for him, but
> >>>if the woke crowd decides that's what it is, yeah, there will be . .
> >>>. trouble.
> >>
> >> Oh, hmm. Yeah, maybe. It hadn't occurred to me and I don't know how
> >> many reading the comics will think of that either. She hasn't been in
> >> the news much lately.
> >
> >She was over here, for recommending nuclear power.
> In someone else's neighborhood -- indeed, country -- no doubt.

Greta Thunberg breaks ranks with German Green Party and urges Germany not
to shut down nuclear power plants
https://fortune.com/2022/10/12/greta-thunberg-germany-greens-nuclear-power-plants-coal-gas-ukraine-russia/

She's not asking for Sweden's nuclear reactors to be shut, btw.

pt

On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 9:11:03 PM UTC-6, Default User wrote:

> Oh, hmm. Yeah, maybe. It hadn't occurred to me and I don't know how
> many reading the comics will think of that either. She hasn't been in
> the news much lately.

The group she started, Extinction Rebellion, recently made up for that,
by throwing tomato soup at a Van Gogh painting.

John Savard

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:42:20 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 9:11:03 PM UTC-6, Default User wrote:
>
> > Oh, hmm. Yeah, maybe. It hadn't occurred to me and I don't know how
> > many reading the comics will think of that either. She hasn't been in
> > the news much lately.
> The group she started, Extinction Rebellion, recently made up for that,
> by throwing tomato soup at a Van Gogh painting.
>
> John Savard

Do you *ever* fact check?
What's your evidence that she 'started it'?

From Wikipedia:

"Extinction Rebellion originated in the United Kingdom at a meeting of activists including Gail Bradbrook, Roger Hallam and Simon Bramwell in April 2018."
Greta didn't start her activist career until August 2018, in Sweden.
It is true that she's well aligned with the group and has appeared at its events. But she did not
start it.

pt

On 10/18/2022 6:17 AM, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:42:20 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 9:11:03 PM UTC-6, Default User wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, hmm. Yeah, maybe. It hadn't occurred to me and I don't know how
>>> many reading the comics will think of that either. She hasn't been in
>>> the news much lately.
>> The group she started, Extinction Rebellion, recently made up for that,
>> by throwing tomato soup at a Van Gogh painting.
>>
>> John Savard
>
> Do you *ever* fact check?

Quaddie doesn't live in the same universe as the rest of us here and as
far as I know no one has yet figured out what the POD was that split his
universe off from our own.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

"pete...@gmail.com" <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5fadf0dc-a319-4698-8ecf-ddeb2d77b5c8n@googlegroups.com:

> Do you *ever* fact check?

The answer to a question in a headling is *always* "no."

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 14:17:43 UTC+1, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:42:20 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 9:11:03 PM UTC-6, Default User wrote:
> >
> > > Oh, hmm. Yeah, maybe. It hadn't occurred to me and I don't know how
> > > many reading the comics will think of that either. She hasn't been in
> > > the news much lately.
> > The group she started, Extinction Rebellion, recently made up for that,
> > by throwing tomato soup at a Van Gogh painting.
> >
> > John Savard
> Do you *ever* fact check?
> What's your evidence that she 'started it'?

None of it is true. The activists represent
Coal Not Dole, and what they did was throw
twenty-five identical Andy Warhol paintings...
none of this is true either, and I can either
work up an ending for it, or send it as is.
Et voilà.

Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote in
news:ae6df406-5b17-4835-ac41-b0a2289bbd9bn@googlegroups.com:

> On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 14:17:43 UTC+1, pete...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 8:42:20 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc
>> wrote:
>> > On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 9:11:03 PM UTC-6, Default
>> > User wrote:
>
>> >
>> > > Oh, hmm. Yeah, maybe. It hadn't occurred to me and I don't
>> > > know how
>
>> > > many reading the comics will think of that either. She
>> > > hasn't been in
>
>> > > the news much lately.
>> > The group she started, Extinction Rebellion, recently made up
>> > for that,
>
>> > by throwing tomato soup at a Van Gogh painting.
>> >
>> > John Savard
>> Do you *ever* fact check?
>> What's your evidence that she 'started it'?
>
> None of it is true. The activists represent
> Coal Not Dole, and what they did was throw
> twenty-five identical Andy Warhol paintings...
> none of this is true either, and I can either
> work up an ending for it, or send it as is.
> Et voilà.
>
The tomoato soup reference was apparently for this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/protesters-
arrested-throwing-substance-soup-cans-vincent-van-goghs-sun-
rcna52241

shorturl.at/iDFS0

which was a Van Gogh painting (and, apparently, safe behind glass),
no Warhol (who painted a soup can, so ok, I can see how somebody
would get that wrong), and the group was Just Stop Oil, who are
funded by Climate Emergency Fund, who Great Thunberg certainly
approves of, but is not, so far as I can tell, directly involved
with.

--
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.