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* [OT] Hexagonal Three-Dimensional ChessQuadibloc
`* Re: [OT] Hexagonal Three-Dimensional ChessDon
 `* Re: [OT] Hexagonal Three-Dimensional ChessQuadibloc
  `* Re: [OT] Hexagonal Three-Dimensional ChessPaul S Person
   `* Re: [OT] Hexagonal Three-Dimensional ChessScott Lurndal
    +* Re: [OT] Hexagonal Three-Dimensional Chessted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
    |`- Re: [OT] Hexagonal Three-Dimensional ChessThe Horny Goat
    `- Re: [OT] Hexagonal Three-Dimensional ChessRobert Carnegie

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 by: Quadibloc - Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:23 UTC

I mention this latest addition to my web page because it actually is,
at least to a limited extent, on-topic for this newsgroup.
Chess has appeared in science fiction numerous times. Sometimes
it's the conventional game of chess with which we are all familiar.
Sometimes it's a game very similar to chess, but different because it
is the corresponding game of an alien race; Jetan, in Burroughs'
Barsoom novels may be the most well-known example, but there
are a number of others.
I do think that the notion that spacemen should be encouraged to
play three-dimensional chess, in order that their tactical thinking
will not be two-dimensional (i.e.,, The Wrath of Khan) appeared in
science fiction long before the first episode of Star Trek ever aired.
Speaking of Star Trek, in the first Star Trek movie, we saw that the
tactical grid on a Klingon starship was made up of triangles rather
than squares.
Chess played on a board with hexagons rather than squares has been
tried; the most popular form of that is the one invented by Władysław
Gliński from Poland.
Well, if any aspiring science-fiction writer wishes to put hexagonal
three-dimensional chess into his or her stories... I've worked out
at least the math of putting chess pieces on the points of the
face-centered cubic lattice.

http://www.quadibloc.com/chess/ch050502.htm

John Savard

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 by: Don - Sat, 15 Oct 2022 15:33 UTC

Quadibloc wrote:

> I mention this latest addition to my web page because it actually is,
> at least to a limited extent, on-topic for this newsgroup.
> Chess has appeared in science fiction numerous times. Sometimes
> it's the conventional game of chess with which we are all familiar.
> Sometimes it's a game very similar to chess, but different because it
> is the corresponding game of an alien race; Jetan, in Burroughs'
> Barsoom novels may be the most well-known example, but there
> are a number of others.
> I do think that the notion that spacemen should be encouraged to
> play three-dimensional chess, in order that their tactical thinking
> will not be two-dimensional (i.e.,, The Wrath of Khan) appeared in
> science fiction long before the first episode of Star Trek ever aired.
> Speaking of Star Trek, in the first Star Trek movie, we saw that the
> tactical grid on a Klingon starship was made up of triangles rather
> than squares.
> Chess played on a board with hexagons rather than squares has been
> tried; the most popular form of that is the one invented by Władysław
> Gliński from Poland.
> Well, if any aspiring science-fiction writer wishes to put hexagonal
> three-dimensional chess into his or her stories... I've worked out
> at least the math of putting chess pieces on the points of the
> face-centered cubic lattice.
>
> http://www.quadibloc.com/chess/ch050502.htm

Here's how Perry's people play 3-D (dreidimensionalem) chess:

Telepaths John Marshall, Betty Toufry, Ishy Matsu and Pucky
the mousebeaver were sitting in the crew mess hall with a few
other mutants passing the time until the takeoff of the Drusus.
As usual John Marshall and Betty Toufry were engaged in a hard-
pitched battle of 3-D chess. As though entranced, the others
watched the unique game. Supported by antigrav fields, the 256
playing pieces floated within the cube which contained twice
this number of individual cubic fields. The figures could change
into other levels or even make jumps into other fields.
"It's your turn, Betty," chirped Pucky as he slid restlessly
back and forth in his seat. "Now it's just child's play. You can
checkmate at least one of his kings!" (After all, the game
included 8 kings!)
Betty continued to stare at the shimmering force cube while
she stroked Pucky's reddish brown fur. "So? You think it would
be real smart to make a killing at one level-and meanwhile lose
at least 2 pieces elsewhere? I thought you could play better
chess than that, Pucky."
A player could actually lose 8 pieces in a single play. But
one had to think more than 8 times as hard as he would in an
ordinary chess game. So it was not surprising that 3-D chess was
usually played only by mutants.

"The Starless Realm"



Die Telepathen John Marshall, Betty Toufry, Ishy Matsu und
Mausbiber Gucky saßen mit einigen anderen Mutanten in der Messe
der DRUSUS und vertrieben sich die Zeit bis zum bald stattfindenden
Start.
Wie üblich fand zwischen John Marshall und Betty Toufry ein
hartes Duell in dreidimensionalem Schach statt. Wie gebannt
beobachteten die anderen das Spiel, das in seiner Art einmalig
war. Durch Antigravfelder gehalten schwebten die
zweihundertsechsundfünfzig Figuren in dem Kubus, der doppelt so
viel Kubikfelder enthielt. Es wurde dimensional gespielt; die
Figuren konnten also in andere Ebenen überwechseln und sogar
springen.
„Du bist am Zug, Betty“, piepste Gucky und rutschte unruhig
auf seinem Sessel hin und her. „Ist doch kinderleicht jetzt.
Mindestens einen der Könige kannst du schachmatt setzen.“
Das Spiel hatte schließlich acht Könige.
Betty starrte weiter auf den flimmernden Kubus und streichelte
dabei Guckys rotbraunes Fell.
„So? Meinst du, es wäre besonders klug, in einer Ebene einen
Sieg zu erringen – und dafür mindestens zwei eigene zu verlieren?
Ich dachte, du spieltest besser Schach, Gucky.“
Man konnte in der Tat bei einem Spiel achtmal verlieren. Man
musste aber mehr als achtmal soviel denken wie bei gewöhnlichem
Schach. Es war daher kein Wunder, wenn dreidimensionales Schach
meist nur von Mutanten gespielt wurde.

„Himmel ohne Sterne“

Danke,

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From: jsav...@ecn.ab.ca (Quadibloc)
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 by: Quadibloc - Mon, 17 Oct 2022 20:53 UTC

On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 9:33:41 AM UTC-6, Don wrote:
> Quadibloc wrote:
= > > Chess has appeared in science fiction numerous times. Sometimes
> > it's the conventional game of chess with which we are all familiar.

> Here's how Perry's people play 3-D (dreidimensionalem) chess:

Come to think of it, we're currently living through a situation with respect
to chess that would have been science fiction not too long ago.

Finally, computers - even inexpensive computers that ordinary people
can afford - can play Chess better than the top grandmasters. It used to be
that even powerful mainframes could only play a mediocre game of chess.

And so, this has led to the situation arising a couple of times where a
chess player is playing better than should be possible for a human... but
it isn't obvious that he is cheating! (Presumably, a tiny radio reciever and
a confederate are involved.)

John Savard

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 by: Paul S Person - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 16:35 UTC

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 9:33:41 AM UTC-6, Don wrote:
>> Quadibloc wrote:
>=
>> > Chess has appeared in science fiction numerous times. Sometimes
>> > it's the conventional game of chess with which we are all familiar.
>
>> Here's how Perry's people play 3-D (dreidimensionalem) chess:
>
>Come to think of it, we're currently living through a situation with respect
>to chess that would have been science fiction not too long ago.
>
>Finally, computers - even inexpensive computers that ordinary people
>can afford - can play Chess better than the top grandmasters. It used to be
>that even powerful mainframes could only play a mediocre game of chess.
>
>And so, this has led to the situation arising a couple of times where a
>chess player is playing better than should be possible for a human... but
>it isn't obvious that he is cheating! (Presumably, a tiny radio reciever and
>a confederate are involved.)

Maybe Faraday cages around the players/table would be in order.
--
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development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

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Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
>On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
><jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 9:33:41 AM UTC-6, Don wrote:
>>> Quadibloc wrote:
>>=
>>> > Chess has appeared in science fiction numerous times. Sometimes
>>> > it's the conventional game of chess with which we are all familiar.
>>
>>> Here's how Perry's people play 3-D (dreidimensionalem) chess:
>>
>>Come to think of it, we're currently living through a situation with respect
>>to chess that would have been science fiction not too long ago.
>>
>>Finally, computers - even inexpensive computers that ordinary people
>>can afford - can play Chess better than the top grandmasters. It used to be
>>that even powerful mainframes could only play a mediocre game of chess.
>>
>>And so, this has led to the situation arising a couple of times where a
>>chess player is playing better than should be possible for a human... but
>>it isn't obvious that he is cheating! (Presumably, a tiny radio reciever and
>>a confederate are involved.)
>
>Maybe Faraday cages around the players/table would be in order.

Nude chess matches with pre-game cavity checks?

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 by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 17:02 UTC

In article <3_A3L.117197$OR4c.32655@fx46.iad>,
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
>>On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>><jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 9:33:41 AM UTC-6, Don wrote:
>>>> Quadibloc wrote:
>>>=
>>>> > Chess has appeared in science fiction numerous times. Sometimes
>>>> > it's the conventional game of chess with which we are all familiar.
>>>
>>>> Here's how Perry's people play 3-D (dreidimensionalem) chess:
>>>
>>>Come to think of it, we're currently living through a situation with respect
>>>to chess that would have been science fiction not too long ago.
>>>
>>>Finally, computers - even inexpensive computers that ordinary people
>>>can afford - can play Chess better than the top grandmasters. It used to be
>>>that even powerful mainframes could only play a mediocre game of chess.
>>>
>>>And so, this has led to the situation arising a couple of times where a
>>>chess player is playing better than should be possible for a human... but
>>>it isn't obvious that he is cheating! (Presumably, a tiny radio reciever and
>>>a confederate are involved.)
>>
>>Maybe Faraday cages around the players/table would be in order.
>
>Nude chess matches with pre-game cavity checks?

Chess is one of those sports which would not be improved by nudity.
--
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 by: Robert Carnegie - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 19:16 UTC

On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 18:01:56 UTC+1, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Paul S Person <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
> >On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 13:53:31 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> ><jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> >
> >>On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 9:33:41 AM UTC-6, Don wrote:
> >>> Quadibloc wrote:
> >>=
> >>> > Chess has appeared in science fiction numerous times. Sometimes
> >>> > it's the conventional game of chess with which we are all familiar.
> >>
> >>> Here's how Perry's people play 3-D (dreidimensionalem) chess:
> >>
> >>Come to think of it, we're currently living through a situation with respect
> >>to chess that would have been science fiction not too long ago.
> >>
> >>Finally, computers - even inexpensive computers that ordinary people
> >>can afford - can play Chess better than the top grandmasters. It used to be
> >>that even powerful mainframes could only play a mediocre game of chess.
> >>
> >>And so, this has led to the situation arising a couple of times where a
> >>chess player is playing better than should be possible for a human... but
> >>it isn't obvious that he is cheating! (Presumably, a tiny radio reciever and
> >>a confederate are involved.)
> >
> >Maybe Faraday cages around the players/table would be in order.
>
> Nude chess matches with pre-game cavity checks?

I'd be sceptical now even if it was two brains in jars
facing off - so to speak. There's implants, there's
directional sound, there's pheromones... I suppose
that with brains in jars, most of those are ruled out,
but when Mr Cheaty /offered/ to play naked, didn't
everyone wonder, "Huh, what has he got up his... um..."

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On 18 Oct 2022 17:02:37 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
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>>Nude chess matches with pre-game cavity checks?
>
>Chess is one of those sports which would not be improved by nudity.
>--
Indeed so!

If you go to a chess tournament these days you'll mostly find men 50+
or kids (boys and girls) 14 or under.

Not my idea of naked hot bunnies that's for sure!

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