On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 6:51:15 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 9:41:42 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:52:51 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
> > <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> > >Earth is over 12,500 km wide and it has gravity,
> > >so you want a really good miss. And you don't
> > >want to have to /keep/ pushing it away each time.
> > >What if it comes when Donald Trump is President
> > >and he thinks he can wave it away with a Sharpie?
>
> > As to that hurricane path map, I agree that Trump's Sharpie was a very
> > dumb idea.
> >
> > Nonetheless, if you find it online and examine it closely, you will
> > see that the sharpie expanded the expected possible path of the
> > hurricane into the next State.
> >
> > That doesn't sound too unreasonable. What else would you expect it to
> > do when it reached the border on the map but keep on going into the
> > next State? Teleport to Winipeg? Stop on a dime?
> >
> > The /real/ problem, as I recall understanding it at the time, was that
> > the map he was using was an /old/ map, the implication being that a
> > more recent map would not have had those possible paths on it but
> > rather a path closer to the path actually taken.
> This doesn't correspond to what I remember from what I saw at the
> time, but my memory has been faulty before.
>
> I know that I joked at the time that if his map inspired more people
> to *pray* about the hurricane, then the additional power of all
> those prayers might have averted disaster!

No. Again, you *could* have checked, but didn't.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Dorian%E2%80%93Alabama_controversy

Hurricane Dorian. Sept 1, 2019. Trump tweets out a message listing the states affected,
including Alabama, which was then known to not be in the path. Alabamans
panic, until state weather service clarifies that the state is safe. Trump is
deservedly mocked.

Trump doubled down, insisting he was right. Sept 4, he shows a map where the
probability cone had been crudely modified with a sharpie to include Alabama,
ordered the state weather service to retract its assurance, and directed NOAA
to back him up, which it did in an unsigned statement. NOAA officials were
found to have violated the agencies scientific integrity rules for doing so.

Pt

On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:06:11 -0700 (PDT), "pete...@gmail.com"
<petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > That doesn't sound too unreasonable. What else would you expect it to
>> > do when it reached the border on the map but keep on going into the
>> > next State? Teleport to Winipeg? Stop on a dime?

Winnipeg PLEASE! (ex resident speaking here)

On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:39:55 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:06:11 -0700 (PDT), "pete...@gmail.com"
><petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> > That doesn't sound too unreasonable. What else would you expect it to
>>> > do when it reached the border on the map but keep on going into the
>>> > next State? Teleport to Winipeg? Stop on a dime?
>
>Winnipeg PLEASE! (ex resident speaking here)

Sorry 'bout that.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 11:53:14 AM UTC-4, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:39:55 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
> wrote:
> >On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:06:11 -0700 (PDT), "pete...@gmail.com"
> ><pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> > That doesn't sound too unreasonable. What else would you expect it to
> >>> > do when it reached the border on the map but keep on going into the
> >>> > next State? Teleport to Winipeg? Stop on a dime?
> >
> >Winnipeg PLEASE! (ex resident speaking here)
> Sorry 'bout that.
> --

One can't teleport to Winnipeg. The energized molecules, on
exposure to that environment, won't be able to coalesce according
to the pattern buffer, because all movement will cease. :)

Who knows why the Jets are 5-3?

--
Kevin R

On Monday, 24 October 2022 at 04:06:24 UTC+1, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 6:51:15 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 9:41:42 AM UTC-6, Paul S Person wrote:
> > > On Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:52:51 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
> > > <rja.ca...@excite.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >Earth is over 12,500 km wide and it has gravity,
> > > >so you want a really good miss. And you don't
> > > >want to have to /keep/ pushing it away each time.
> > > >What if it comes when Donald Trump is President
> > > >and he thinks he can wave it away with a Sharpie?
> >
> > > As to that hurricane path map, I agree that Trump's Sharpie was a very
> > > dumb idea.
> > >
> > > Nonetheless, if you find it online and examine it closely, you will
> > > see that the sharpie expanded the expected possible path of the
> > > hurricane into the next State.
> > >
> > > That doesn't sound too unreasonable. What else would you expect it to
> > > do when it reached the border on the map but keep on going into the
> > > next State? Teleport to Winipeg? Stop on a dime?

The storm loses energy in each state. Eventually
it's just a windy day.

> > > The /real/ problem, as I recall understanding it at the time, was that
> > > the map he was using was an /old/ map, the implication being that a
> > > more recent map would not have had those possible paths on it but
> > > rather a path closer to the path actually taken.
> > This doesn't correspond to what I remember from what I saw at the
> > time, but my memory has been faulty before.
> >
> > I know that I joked at the time that if his map inspired more people
> > to *pray* about the hurricane, then the additional power of all
> > those prayers might have averted disaster!
>
> No. Again, you *could* have checked, but didn't.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Dorian%E2%80%93Alabama_controversy
>
> Hurricane Dorian. Sept 1, 2019. Trump tweets out a message listing the states affected,
> including Alabama, which was then known to not be in the path. Alabamans
> panic, until state weather service clarifies that the state is safe. Trump is
> deservedly mocked.
>
> Trump doubled down, insisting he was right. Sept 4, he shows a map where the
> probability cone had been crudely modified with a sharpie to include Alabama,
> ordered the state weather service to retract its assurance, and directed NOAA
> to back him up, which it did in an unsigned statement. NOAA officials were
> found to have violated the agencies scientific integrity rules for doing so.
>
> Pt

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 08:53:07 -0700, Paul S Person
<psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:39:55 -0700, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 20:06:11 -0700 (PDT), "pete...@gmail.com"
>><petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> > That doesn't sound too unreasonable. What else would you expect it to
>>>> > do when it reached the border on the map but keep on going into the
>>>> > next State? Teleport to Winipeg? Stop on a dime?
>>
>>Winnipeg PLEASE! (ex resident speaking here)
>
>Sorry 'bout that.

I would not have reacted if you had said "Winterpeg" which is a local
nickname since Winnipeg probably has the coldest winters in North
America for cities with population over 1/2 million.....

In our first year of marriage we lived there and were trying to
economize (not all that common for newlyweds a year out cf college) so
I walked to work everyday (about 7-8 blocks) which was lovely in
summer but not so much fun in -40 with a 40 mile an hour wind. (Been
there done that!)