On 11/16/2022 8:37 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 11:38:58 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
> <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote in
>> news:4hh7nh1qrnosb95pdlp72ua0srl1hnsut7@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 23:28:19 +1100, "Gary R. Schmidt"
>>> <grschmidt@acm.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 15/11/2022 04:30, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>>>> news:rLCMJ5.1Bzp@kithrup.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article
>>>>>> <ea984fb6-cf32-45fc-a22a-7c0da0bbf629n@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>> Kevrob
>>>>>> <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> We should habe a "None of the above" option here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Hal Heydt)
>>>>>> The only state I know of, off hand, that has "None of the
>>>>>> Above" is Nevada, and it isn't truely "None of the Above"
>>>>>> because if NOTA wins, the race goes the candidate that got
>>>>>> the most votes. I dare it's kind of embarrassing to lose to
>>>>>> NOTA, but I doubt it'd slow your average politician down very
>>>>>> much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not as embarassing as losing to someone who has been dead for
>>>>> months, with a great deal of publicity about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I'd like to see would be a system where if NOTA wins,
>>>>>> you have a new election and none of those on the ballot are
>>>>>> eligible to run in the new one. After all, they've *all*
>>>>>> been rejected by the electorate.
>>>>>
>>>>> The difficulty there is who fills the office in the meantime?
>>>>> Scheduling another election can take months.
>>>>
>>>> Or in civilised countries, no more than three weeks. It can be
>>>> done in two, if necessary, but you wouldn't have the faintest
>>>> idea how that could be possible.
>>>
>>> You'll have to excuse the bot you are responding to.
>>>
>>> His long-anticipated Red Wave (which, like all Red Waves,
>>> originated in Moscow) just broke on the Blue Breakwall
>>> protecting the Constitution, and ... failed. Miserably. So the
>>> walls of reality are closing in on Trumpland.
>>
>> Look like the Republicans are going to have a bit of a margin in
>> control of the House, actually. They're one short now, with three
>> races still being counted in which they are clearly ahead (with 99%
>> reporting in Colorado, but a more significant marging in two
>> California districts. Republican have gained 8 seats - so far - in
>> the House.
>>
>> And strictly speaking, I actually prefer control to be split
>> between the two sides of Congress, because that will paralyze
>> Congress that much more, since the *only* thing they can do that is
>> worthwhile is nothing.
>
> I actually agree with you on that.
>
> Except that I prefer the old days, where it meant they actually worked
> together and produced solutions both sides could live with.
>
> Politics, IOW, not ideology.
>
> Meanwhile, the Senate can just keep on approving Biden's judicial
> nominees. Provided, of course, they deserve confirmation.

At least they will get hearings to determine that.

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Garrett Wollman wrote:

> But normally in
>their systems a party would have its own internal, private system for
>candidate selection and the party would inform the electoral
>authorities who its candidates are, rather than the candidates
>informing the electoral authorities which party they claim affiliation
>to.

We had a weird situation in my county this past election. To oppose the
Democratic county executive, the Republicans supported a young Black
state rep as a candidate. In the primary, he was thorougly trounced by
a literal unknown, a woman with no political experience who didn't
campaign. Not even a sign in her own yard, so her neighbors had no idea
she was running.

The Republicans pledged support, but it soon came out (from her own web
page) that she was a conspiracy theory kook. That caused all kinds of
fun. She told the party she would withdraw, then decided to stay in,
then finally quit.

So the Republicans needed a new candidate, and didn't go back to the
original candidate. They picked a guy who had been a Democrat, and lost
to the current executive in a previous primary.

The new candidate lost again, although it was a bit close.

Brian

In article <XnsAF505154989CEtaustingmail@85.12.62.245>,
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>"Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> wrote in
>news:u7dc4j-03s.ln1@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au:
>
>> On 15/11/2022 04:30, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>> news:rLCMJ5.1Bzp@kithrup.com:
>>>
>>>> In article
>>>> <ea984fb6-cf32-45fc-a22a-7c0da0bbf629n@googlegroups.com>,
>>>> Kevrob
>>>> <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>> We should habe a "None of the above" option here.
>>>>
>>>> (Hal Heydt)
>>>> The only state I know of, off hand, that has "None of the
>>>> Above" is Nevada, and it isn't truely "None of the Above"
>>>> because if NOTA wins, the race goes the candidate that got the
>>>> most votes. I dare it's kind of embarrassing to lose to NOTA,
>>>> but I doubt it'd slow your average politician down very much.
>>>
>>> Not as embarassing as losing to someone who has been dead for
>>> months, with a great deal of publicity about it.
>>>>
>>>> What I'd like to see would be a system where if NOTA wins, you
>>>> have a new election and none of those on the ballot are
>>>> eligible to run in the new one. After all, they've *all* been
>>>> rejected by the electorate.
>>>
>>> The difficulty there is who fills the office in the meantime?
>>> Scheduling another election can take months.
>>
>> Or in civilised countries, no more than three weeks. It can be
>> done in two, if necessary, but you wouldn't have the faintest
>> idea how that could be possible.
>>
>Your point? Rushing it guarantees it will be done poorly, which
>seems to be your goal. You must be a Democrat.

(Hal Heydt)
It was the Republicans that shortened the time between a general
election and a runoff election from 6 weeks to 4 weeks in
Georgia.

djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
news:rLnxCC.xp2@kithrup.com:

> In article <XnsAF505154989CEtaustingmail@85.12.62.245>,
> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
>>"Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> wrote in
>>news:u7dc4j-03s.ln1@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au:
>>
>>> On 15/11/2022 04:30, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>> djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote in
>>>> news:rLCMJ5.1Bzp@kithrup.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article
>>>>> <ea984fb6-cf32-45fc-a22a-7c0da0bbf629n@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> Kevrob
>>>>> <kevrob@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>>>>> We should habe a "None of the above" option here.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Hal Heydt)
>>>>> The only state I know of, off hand, that has "None of the
>>>>> Above" is Nevada, and it isn't truely "None of the Above"
>>>>> because if NOTA wins, the race goes the candidate that got
>>>>> the most votes. I dare it's kind of embarrassing to lose to
>>>>> NOTA, but I doubt it'd slow your average politician down
>>>>> very much.
>>>>
>>>> Not as embarassing as losing to someone who has been dead for
>>>> months, with a great deal of publicity about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I'd like to see would be a system where if NOTA wins,
>>>>> you have a new election and none of those on the ballot are
>>>>> eligible to run in the new one. After all, they've *all*
>>>>> been rejected by the electorate.
>>>>
>>>> The difficulty there is who fills the office in the meantime?
>>>> Scheduling another election can take months.
>>>
>>> Or in civilised countries, no more than three weeks. It can
>>> be done in two, if necessary, but you wouldn't have the
>>> faintest idea how that could be possible.
>>>
>>Your point? Rushing it guarantees it will be done poorly, which
>>seems to be your goal. You must be a Democrat.
>
> (Hal Heydt)
> It was the Republicans that shortened the time between a general
> election and a runoff election from 6 weeks to 4 weeks in
> Georgia.
>
Which is still longer than three weeks.

Do you have a point?

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