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* [Shockwave Reader] Galactic Storm by John BrunnerJames Nicoll
`* Re: [Shockwave Reader] Galactic Storm by John BrunnerCharles Packer
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  `* Re: [Shockwave Reader] Galactic Storm by John BrunnerWilliam Hyde
   `* Re: [Shockwave Reader] Galactic Storm by John BrunnerDimensional Traveler
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Subject: [Shockwave Reader] Galactic Storm by John Brunner
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 by: James Nicoll - Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:30 UTC

Galactic Storm by John Brunner

The government immediately rallied to fight the global menace of
climate change--but they did not suspect its true cause!

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-your-fire
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 by: Charles Packer - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 07:54 UTC

On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:30:40 +0000, James Nicoll wrote:

> Galactic Storm by John Brunner
>
> The government immediately rallied to fight the global menace of climate
> change--but they did not suspect its true cause!
>
> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-your-fire

Footnote 3 has a twang of resonance with the late 19th-century
preoccupation among European royalty over its inbred-ness.

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 by: pete...@gmail.com - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 14:17 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 2:54:38 AM UTC-5, Charles Packer wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:30:40 +0000, James Nicoll wrote:
>
> > Galactic Storm by John Brunner
> >
> > The government immediately rallied to fight the global menace of climate
> > change--but they did not suspect its true cause!
> >
> > https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-your-fire
> Footnote 3 has a twang of resonance with the late 19th-century
> preoccupation among European royalty over its inbred-ness.

Was it a pre-occupation (ie, they paid attention to it), or did they just
ignore it? The Mutant Queen Victoria's hemophilia certainly seemed
to spread well.

pt

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Subject: Re: [Shockwave Reader] Galactic Storm by John Brunner
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 by: William Hyde - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 20:50 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:17:44 AM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 2:54:38 AM UTC-5, Charles Packer wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:30:40 +0000, James Nicoll wrote:
> >
> > > Galactic Storm by John Brunner
> > >
> > > The government immediately rallied to fight the global menace of climate
> > > change--but they did not suspect its true cause!
> > >
> > > https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-your-fire
> > Footnote 3 has a twang of resonance with the late 19th-century
> > preoccupation among European royalty over its inbred-ness.
> Was it a pre-occupation (ie, they paid attention to it), or did they just
> ignore it? The Mutant Queen Victoria's hemophilia certainly seemed
> to spread well.

Assuming the gene started with Victoria, it lasted just over a century, with the last
known carrier dying in 1934.

It's possible the mutation was present in Victoria's mother. But there is no sign of it
in her daughter by her first marriage, though, or in any of that daughter's descendants.

William Hyde

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Fri, 2 Dec 2022 00:54 UTC

On 12/1/2022 12:50 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:17:44 AM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 2:54:38 AM UTC-5, Charles Packer wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:30:40 +0000, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>
>>>> Galactic Storm by John Brunner
>>>>
>>>> The government immediately rallied to fight the global menace of climate
>>>> change--but they did not suspect its true cause!
>>>>
>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-your-fire
>>> Footnote 3 has a twang of resonance with the late 19th-century
>>> preoccupation among European royalty over its inbred-ness.
>> Was it a pre-occupation (ie, they paid attention to it), or did they just
>> ignore it? The Mutant Queen Victoria's hemophilia certainly seemed
>> to spread well.
>
> Assuming the gene started with Victoria, it lasted just over a century, with the last
> known carrier dying in 1934.
>
> It's possible the mutation was present in Victoria's mother. But there is no sign of it
> in her daughter by her first marriage, though, or in any of that daughter's descendants.
>
Was Victoria's hemophilia somehow unique? My father had matrilinear
hemophilia. (Passed down from mother to daughter but only manifested in
male offspring and not passed down from them.)

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 by: William Hyde - Fri, 2 Dec 2022 20:14 UTC

On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 7:54:15 PM UTC-5, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 12/1/2022 12:50 PM, William Hyde wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 9:17:44 AM UTC-5, pete...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 2:54:38 AM UTC-5, Charles Packer wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:30:40 +0000, James Nicoll wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Galactic Storm by John Brunner
> >>>>
> >>>> The government immediately rallied to fight the global menace of climate
> >>>> change--but they did not suspect its true cause!
> >>>>
> >>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/im-your-fire
> >>> Footnote 3 has a twang of resonance with the late 19th-century
> >>> preoccupation among European royalty over its inbred-ness.
> >> Was it a pre-occupation (ie, they paid attention to it), or did they just
> >> ignore it? The Mutant Queen Victoria's hemophilia certainly seemed
> >> to spread well.
> >
> > Assuming the gene started with Victoria, it lasted just over a century, with the last
> > known carrier dying in 1934.
> >
> > It's possible the mutation was present in Victoria's mother. But there is no sign of it
> > in her daughter by her first marriage, though, or in any of that daughter's descendants.
> >
> Was Victoria's hemophilia somehow unique?


Pretty standard, if perhaps a bit weak. Some of her hemophiliac descendants
lived a comparatively long time.

My father had matrilinear
> hemophilia. (Passed down from mother to daughter but only manifested in
> male offspring and not passed down from them.)

Male hemophiliacs cannot pass the disease on to their sons but their daughters will all be carriers

Owing to a process called Lyonization in which one of a pair of genes on a woman's x chromosomes is
suppressed a female carrier may be low in clotting factor if it is the undamaged gene that is inactivated.

IIRC this never results in full blown hemophilia, but the woman in question will bruise easily and cuts will
heal slowly.

Until recently male sufferers almost never lived to have children. An exception occurred in a Swiss valley, where a
comparatively mild mutation allowed men to live into their forties. As a result this valley
had a number of female hemophiliacs but luckily this mutation seems to be extinct.

William Hyde

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