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* (tears) Earthsearch by James FollettJames Nicoll
+* Re: (tears) Earthsearch by James FollettLynn McGuire
|+* Re: (tears) Earthsearch by James FollettRobert Carnegie
||+- Re: (tears) Earthsearch by James FollettJerry Brown
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|| `* Re: (tears) Earthsearch by James FollettDimensional Traveler
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 by: James Nicoll - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 13:22 UTC

Earthsearch by James Follett

Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
home is not what they expected. Or where.

https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
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 by: Lynn McGuire - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 19:11 UTC

On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
> Earthsearch by James Follett
>
> Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
> home is not what they expected. Or where.
>
> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right

Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/

Lynn

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 by: Robert Carnegie - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:01 UTC

On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
> > Earthsearch by James Follett
> >
> > Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
> > home is not what they expected. Or where.
> >
> > https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/

Not exactly. But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
themselves. The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
but without puberty occurring (until later), so they look pretty
weird... maybe not for 2023, though. And it's a show on radio,
so we take the cast's word for it.

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Clearly useful as suspensful listening for the kiddies,
but of no interest unless one had heard it when one
was young, and hence had a sentimental attachment
thereto.

John Savard

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 by: pete...@gmail.com - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:46 UTC

On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:12:02 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
> > Earthsearch by James Follett
> >
> > Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
> > home is not what they expected. Or where.
> >
> > https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/

....or 1953, "The Last Planet" Andre Norton.

Its a hoary trope.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarthAllAlong

pt

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 by: James Nicoll - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 15:58 UTC

In article <f7279dcb-542c-44ca-9327-dba9f56ab17fn@googlegroups.com>,
pete...@gmail.com <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Monday, March 27, 2023 at 3:12:02 PM UTC-4, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>> > Earthsearch by James Follett
>> >
>> > Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>> > home is not what they expected. Or where.
>> >
>> > https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>
>...or 1953, "The Last Planet" Andre Norton.
>
>Its a hoary trope.
>https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarthAllAlong

Ah, but there's a twist:

The Earth that launched the ship isn't our Earth. Our Earth is the
planet the travellers call Paradise, which they eventually settle.
It's the old Adam and Eve gambit.

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 by: Jerry Brown - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:03 UTC

On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:

>On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>> > Earthsearch by James Follett
>> >
>> > Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>> > home is not what they expected. Or where.
>> >
>> > https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>
>Not exactly. But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
>minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
>themselves. The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
>to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
>but without puberty occurring (until later),

I recall the line "I've got hairs growing in other places too", which
made teenage me giggle a bit.

>so they look pretty
>weird... maybe not for 2023, though. And it's a show on radio,
>so we take the cast's word for it.

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:41 UTC

On 3/27/2023 4:01 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>> Earthsearch by James Follett
>>>
>>> Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>>> home is not what they expected. Or where.
>>>
>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>
> Not exactly. But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
> minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
> themselves. The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
> to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
> but without puberty occurring (until later), so they look pretty
> weird... maybe not for 2023, though. And it's a show on radio,
> so we take the cast's word for it.

Wait, I just saw a TV show / movie based on this. Very newish. One
adult and 30 kids shepherding a generation space ship with 100,000
fetuses in it from Earth to a new star system.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9664108/
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyagers_(film)

Lynn

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 21:05 UTC

On 3/28/2023 12:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 3/27/2023 4:01 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>> Earthsearch by James Follett
>>>>
>>>> Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>>>> home is not what they expected. Or where.
>>>>
>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>>
>> Not exactly.  But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
>> minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
>> themselves.  The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
>> to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
>> but without puberty occurring (until later), so they look pretty
>> weird...  maybe not for 2023, though.  And it's a show on radio,
>> so we take the cast's word for it.
>
> Wait, I just saw a TV show / movie based on this.  Very newish.  One
> adult and 30 kids shepherding a generation space ship with 100,000
> fetuses in it from Earth to a new star system.
>    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9664108/
> and
>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyagers_(film)
>
I haven't seen that one myself but my impression was it was more a
remake of 'Lord of the Flies' than anything else.

--
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dirty old man.

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Tue, 28 Mar 2023 22:34 UTC

On 3/28/2023 4:05 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 3/28/2023 12:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 3/27/2023 4:01 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>> On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>>> Earthsearch by James Follett
>>>>>
>>>>> Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>>>>> home is not what they expected. Or where.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>>>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>>>
>>> Not exactly.  But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
>>> minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
>>> themselves.  The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
>>> to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
>>> but without puberty occurring (until later), so they look pretty
>>> weird...  maybe not for 2023, though.  And it's a show on radio,
>>> so we take the cast's word for it.
>>
>> Wait, I just saw a TV show / movie based on this.  Very newish.  One
>> adult and 30 kids shepherding a generation space ship with 100,000
>> fetuses in it from Earth to a new star system.
>>     https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9664108/
>> and
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyagers_(film)
>>
> I haven't seen that one myself but my impression was it was more a
> remake of 'Lord of the Flies' than anything else.

Definitely. But they are on a spaceship and somebody opens a door ...

Lynn

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Wed, 29 Mar 2023 04:19 UTC

On 3/28/2023 3:34 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 3/28/2023 4:05 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> On 3/28/2023 12:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2023 4:01 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>>>> Earthsearch by James Follett
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>>>>>> home is not what they expected. Or where.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>>>>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly.  But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
>>>> minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
>>>> themselves.  The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
>>>> to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
>>>> but without puberty occurring (until later), so they look pretty
>>>> weird...  maybe not for 2023, though.  And it's a show on radio,
>>>> so we take the cast's word for it.
>>>
>>> Wait, I just saw a TV show / movie based on this.  Very newish.  One
>>> adult and 30 kids shepherding a generation space ship with 100,000
>>> fetuses in it from Earth to a new star system.
>>>     https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9664108/
>>> and
>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyagers_(film)
>>>
>> I haven't seen that one myself but my impression was it was more a
>> remake of 'Lord of the Flies' than anything else.
>
> Definitely.  But they are on a spaceship and somebody opens a door ...
>
Was it at least a screen door?

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:05:54 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 3/28/2023 12:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 3/27/2023 4:01 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>> On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>>> Earthsearch by James Follett
>>>>>
>>>>> Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>>>>> home is not what they expected. Or where.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>>>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>>>
>>> Not exactly.  But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
>>> minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
>>> themselves.  The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
>>> to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
>>> but without puberty occurring (until later), so they look pretty
>>> weird...  maybe not for 2023, though.  And it's a show on radio,
>>> so we take the cast's word for it.
>>
>> Wait, I just saw a TV show / movie based on this.  Very newish.  One
>> adult and 30 kids shepherding a generation space ship with 100,000
>> fetuses in it from Earth to a new star system.
>>    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9664108/
>> and
>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyagers_(film)
>>
>I haven't seen that one myself but my impression was it was more a
>remake of 'Lord of the Flies' than anything else.

Good call.

Things /definitely/ go down hill after a certain point is reached.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 29 Mar 2023 18:07 UTC

On 3/28/2023 11:19 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 3/28/2023 3:34 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>> On 3/28/2023 4:05 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> On 3/28/2023 12:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2023 4:01 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>>>>> Earthsearch by James Follett
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>>>>>>> home is not what they expected. Or where.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>>>>>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>>>>>
>>>>> Not exactly.  But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
>>>>> minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
>>>>> themselves.  The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
>>>>> to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
>>>>> but without puberty occurring (until later), so they look pretty
>>>>> weird...  maybe not for 2023, though.  And it's a show on radio,
>>>>> so we take the cast's word for it.
>>>>
>>>> Wait, I just saw a TV show / movie based on this.  Very newish.  One
>>>> adult and 30 kids shepherding a generation space ship with 100,000
>>>> fetuses in it from Earth to a new star system.
>>>>     https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9664108/
>>>> and
>>>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyagers_(film)
>>>>
>>> I haven't seen that one myself but my impression was it was more a
>>> remake of 'Lord of the Flies' than anything else.
>>
>> Definitely.  But they are on a spaceship and somebody opens a door ...
>>
> Was it at least a screen door?

Nope, a solid door.

Lynn

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 by: Lynn McGuire - Wed, 29 Mar 2023 18:09 UTC

On 3/29/2023 10:57 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:05:54 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 3/28/2023 12:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2023 4:01 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>>>> Earthsearch by James Follett
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>>>>>> home is not what they expected. Or where.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>>>>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly.  But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
>>>> minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
>>>> themselves.  The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
>>>> to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
>>>> but without puberty occurring (until later), so they look pretty
>>>> weird...  maybe not for 2023, though.  And it's a show on radio,
>>>> so we take the cast's word for it.
>>>
>>> Wait, I just saw a TV show / movie based on this.  Very newish.  One
>>> adult and 30 kids shepherding a generation space ship with 100,000
>>> fetuses in it from Earth to a new star system.
>>>    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9664108/
>>> and
>>>    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyagers_(film)
>>>
>> I haven't seen that one myself but my impression was it was more a
>> remake of 'Lord of the Flies' than anything else.
>
> Good call.
>
> Things /definitely/ go down hill after a certain point is reached.

Well, until they space a certain guy.

You know, we need a new saying for getting rid of troublemakers in space
other than "walk the gangplank". Something like "space him !".

Lynn

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:06 UTC

On 3/29/2023 11:09 AM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 3/29/2023 10:57 AM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:05:54 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/28/2023 12:41 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2023 4:01 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, 27 March 2023 at 20:12:02 UTC+1, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/26/2023 8:22 AM, James Nicoll wrote:
>>>>>>> Earthsearch by James Follett
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Starfarers return home generations after leaving, only to discover
>>>>>>> home is not what they expected. Or where.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/home-again-and-feeling-right
>>>>>> Ah, a retelling of "The Planet Of The Apes" book from 1964.
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Pierre-Boulle/dp/B00005WN1S/
>>>>>
>>>>> Not exactly.  But IIRC the crew do find their home system -
>>>>> minus home planet - populated by beings hairier than
>>>>> themselves.  The ANGEL brains decided it was less trouble
>>>>> to raise and hormonize their new crew to mature human size
>>>>> but without puberty occurring (until later), so they look pretty
>>>>> weird...  maybe not for 2023, though.  And it's a show on radio,
>>>>> so we take the cast's word for it.
>>>>
>>>> Wait, I just saw a TV show / movie based on this.  Very newish.  One
>>>> adult and 30 kids shepherding a generation space ship with 100,000
>>>> fetuses in it from Earth to a new star system.
>>>>      https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9664108/
>>>> and
>>>>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyagers_(film)
>>>>
>>> I haven't seen that one myself but my impression was it was more a
>>> remake of 'Lord of the Flies' than anything else.
>>
>> Good call.
>>
>> Things /definitely/ go down hill after a certain point is reached.
>
> Well, until they space a certain guy.
>
> You know, we need a new saying for getting rid of troublemakers in space
> other than "walk the gangplank".  Something like "space him !".
>
Which has been in use in written SF for decades....

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On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 13:09:02 -0500, Lynn McGuire
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>You know, we need a new saying for getting rid of troublemakers in space
>other than "walk the gangplank". Something like "space him !".

I play one of those online Star Trek games and the term we use is "Out
the airlock with him!" or simply "Airlock!!"

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On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 3:56:01 AM UTC-4, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 13:09:02 -0500, Lynn McGuire
> <lynnmc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >You know, we need a new saying for getting rid of troublemakers in space
> >other than "walk the gangplank". Something like "space him !".
> I play one of those online Star Trek games and the term we use is "Out
> the airlock with him!" or simply "Airlock!!"

I remember when "Space Wesley!" was a thing.

In the ST universe one can set the teleporter to "scatter"
and wipe the buffer, of course. No corpse.

On Heinlein's Vanguard (Universe/Orphans In The Sky) one can
feed a troublesome person to the converter.

Stock for "Soylent Green?"

Sandworm bait.

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Kevin R

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