OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
“Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
the groups only once. And I probably won’t
read everything. I hope that my creativity will
return soon and that this time it will include the
ability to finish projects.

Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on

https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on

https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt

--
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
"This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

David Dalton wrote:
>
> OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
> “Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
> way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
> the groups only once. And I probably won’t
> read everything. I hope that my creativity will
> return soon and that this time it will include the
> ability to finish projects.

> Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on

> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

> and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
> best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on

> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt

Good morning and welcome to alt.arts.poetry.comnents, David.

🙂

David Dalton wrote:

> OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
> “Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
> way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
> the groups only once. And I probably won’t
> read everything. I hope that my creativity will
> return soon and that this time it will include the
> ability to finish projects.

> Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on

> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

> and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
> best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on

> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt

Outstanding, D.D.

good to have a new member on the poetry groups...!

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 6:32:43 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> On Aug 25, 2023, NancyGene wrote
> (in article<02b1d131-d689-4f3d...@googlegroups.com>):
>
> > How do you think he was posting before if he wasn't "subscribed to the
> > newsgroup?”
> I was posting to the group but wasn’t reading it, wasn’t checking
> it for followups, in my recent posts, until last night. That is
> possible with a newsreader (I use Hogwasher in St. John’s
> and MT-NewsWatcher in Lake View) but less likely with
> google groups (which I rarely use). I was checking some
> of the other groups I crossposted (not possible on google
> groups any more) to, including rec.arts.poems.

Well put, David, and again, welcome to the poetry newsgroups.

🙂
> --
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
> This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
> Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

...

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:18 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
> “Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
> way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
> the groups only once. And I probably won’t
> read everything. I hope that my creativity will
> return soon and that this time it will include the
> ability to finish projects.
>
> Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
>
> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
>
> and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
> best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
>
> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
>
> --
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
> This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
> Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)

Excellent. I look forward to seeing you appear here more often.

There's not much interaction over here at RAP, but it's much more congenial than the negative interaction at RAP.

David Dalton wrote:
>
> OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
> “Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
> way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
> the groups only once. And I probably won’t
> read everything. I hope that my creativity will
> return soon and that this time it will include the
> ability to finish projects.

> Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on

> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

> and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
> best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on

> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt

Good afternoon and looking forward to reading your poetry, D.D.

:)

On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 10:20:02 PM UTC-4, George J. Dance wrote:
error corrected *
> On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 1:40:18 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
> > “Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
> > way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
> > the groups only once. And I probably won’t
> > read everything. I hope that my creativity will
> > return soon and that this time it will include the
> > ability to finish projects.
> >
> > Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on
> >
> > https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html
> >
> > and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
> > best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on
> >
> > https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt
> >
> > --
> > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
> > This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
> > Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)
> Excellent. I look forward to seeing you appear here more often.
>
> There's not much interaction over here at RAP, but it's much more congenial than the negative interaction at
* certain other groups.

General-Zod wrote:

> David Dalton wrote:
>>
>> OK, I now have all of these groups in a Hogwasher
>> “Subscription” that I have titled “poetry”. That
>> way I will see a crosspost to more than one of
>> the groups only once. And I probably won’t
>> read everything. I hope that my creativity will
>> return soon and that this time it will include the
>> ability to finish projects.

>> Some of my old “poetry fragments” are on

>> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html

>> and some of my old stream of consciousness writing,
>> best skimmed (about a megabyte of plain text) is on

>> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/fte.txt

> Good afternoon and looking forward to reading your poetry, D.D.

Agreed and seconded.

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:34:26 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> On Sep 9, 2023, NancyGene wrote
> (in article<3dc580fc-5752-4564...@googlegroups.com>):
>
> > Be gone, lunatic.
>
> I do state I am bipolar on my web page, and don’t appreciate
> derogatory terms of nutter and lunatic; they are hate speech.
>
> My claim on my web page that I am similar to many past
> major and non-pagan religious figures is based on analysis
> of patterns and individual events in my mystic cycles and
> comparison to those of past figures, including Taliesin.
>
> Then why have I not generated a significant body of
> poetry yet? Taliesin experienced a surge in poetic
> creativity late in life, and I expect the same will be true
> for me; indeed my low/working/ascetic/forsaken/wilderness
> years have lasted 27.6 years so far, so long since I
> have a global region, whereas Taliesin’s lasted the common
> seven years (e.g. Jacob’s and Rama’s lasted 14 years).
>
> But perhaps you are referring to my Sisyphean attempts
> to magickally instigate a new age as I am reporting
> on alt.religion.druid? Since I am similar to some past
> major figures I expect there will be some magick associated
> with me. But I can’t be said to be delusional since I
> won’t believe that my attempts are working without evidence.
> However perhaps I will have to wait until my low years
> reach 29 years (the common 7 plus three 11 year sunspot
> cycles).
>
> --
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
> And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

Good morning, David, you're seeing NancyGene and her ilk"s true colors now, as malicious trolls with an agenda to drive any newcomers from the poetry newsgroup a.

Some us us argue with the trolls, others choose to skip and ignore (or killfile) them.

HTH and HAND.

(Moved from the troll thread.)

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:14:59 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:34:26 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > > On Sep 9, 2023, NancyGene wrote
> > > > > (in article<3dc580fc-5752-4564...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > > >
> > > > > > Be gone, lunatic.
> > > > >
> > > > > I do state I am bipolar on my web page, and don’t appreciate
> > > > > derogatory terms of nutter and lunatic; they are hate speech.
> > > > >
> > > > > My claim on my web page that I am similar to many past
> > > > > major and non-pagan religious figures is based on analysis
> > > > > of patterns and individual events in my mystic cycles and
> > > > > comparison to those of past figures, including Taliesin.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then why have I not generated a significant body of
> > > > > poetry yet? Taliesin experienced a surge in poetic
> > > > > creativity late in life, and I expect the same will be true
> > > > > for me; indeed my low/working/ascetic/forsaken/wilderness
> > > > > years have lasted 27.6 years so far, so long since I
> > > > > have a global region, whereas Taliesin’s lasted the common
> > > > > seven years (e.g. Jacob’s and Rama’s lasted 14 years).
> > > > >
> > > > > But perhaps you are referring to my Sisyphean attempts
> > > > > to magickally instigate a new age as I am reporting
> > > > > on alt.religion.druid? Since I am similar to some past
> > > > > major figures I expect there will be some magick associated
> > > > > with me. But I can’t be said to be delusional since I
> > > > > won’t believe that my attempts are working without evidence.
> > > > > However perhaps I will have to wait until my low years
> > > > > reach 29 years (the common 7 plus three 11 year sunspot
> > > > > cycles).
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> > > > > "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
> > > > > And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
> > > > Good morning, David, you're seeing NancyGene and her ilk"s true colors now, as malicious trolls
> > > > with an agenda to drive any newcomers from the poetry newsgroup.
> > > >
> > > > Some us us argue with the trolls, others choose to skip and ignore (or killfile) them.
> > >
> > >
> > > It's obvious who the "malicious troll" is.
> > As you, NancyGene and your ilk have proudly shown yourselves to be countless times, Pendragon.
> We post and discuss poetry

As well as post malicious attack threads and other Troll foolishness.

And so it goes.

(Moved from the troll thread.)

Coco DeSockmonkey wrote:

> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 1:09:56 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 1:57:20 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> > > On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:34:26 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > > I do state I am bipolar on my web page, and don’t appreciate
>> > > > > > > derogatory terms of nutter and lunatic; they are hate speech.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > My claim on my web page that I am similar to many past
>> > > > > > > major and non-pagan religious figures is based on analysis
>> > > > > > > of patterns and individual events in my mystic cycles and
>> > > > > > > comparison to those of past figures, including Taliesin.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Then why have I not generated a significant body of
>> > > > > > > poetry yet? Taliesin experienced a surge in poetic
>> > > > > > > creativity late in life, and I expect the same will be true
>> > > > > > > for me; indeed my low/working/ascetic/forsaken/wilderness
>> > > > > > > years have lasted 27.6 years so far, so long since I
>> > > > > > > have a global region, whereas Taliesin’s lasted the common
>> > > > > > > seven years (e.g. Jacob’s and Rama’s lasted 14 years).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > But perhaps you are referring to my Sisyphean attempts
>> > > > > > > to magickally instigate a new age as I am reporting
>> > > > > > > on alt.religion.druid? Since I am similar to some past
>> > > > > > > major figures I expect there will be some magick associated
>> > > > > > > with me. But I can’t be said to be delusional since I
>> > > > > > > won’t believe that my attempts are working without evidence.
>> > > > > > > However perhaps I will have to wait until my low years
>> > > > > > > reach 29 years (the common 7 plus three 11 year sunspot
>> > > > > > > cycles).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
>> > > > > > > "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
>> > > > > > > And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)
>> > > > > > Good morning, David, you're seeing NancyGene and her ilk"s true colors now, as malicious trolls
>> > > > > > with an agenda to drive any newcomers from the poetry newsgroup..
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Some us us argue with the trolls, others choose to skip and ignore (or killfile) them.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It's obvious who the "malicious troll" is.
>> > > > As you, NancyGene and your ilk have proudly shown yourselves to be countless times, Pendragon.
>> > > We post and discuss poetry
>> > As well as post malicious attack threads and other Troll foolishness.
>> >
>> > And so it goes.
>> >
>> > I proposed a peace treaty
>>
>> If you had been paying attention, I was actually complying with all your points.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> That's what I said

No you didn't.

HTH and HAND.

(Moved from the troll thread.)

Will Dockery wrote:

> On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 12:34:26 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>> On Sep 9, 2023, NancyGene wrote
>> (in article<3dc580fc-5752-4564...@googlegroups.com>):
>>
>> > Be gone, lunatic.
>>
>> I do state I am bipolar on my web page, and don’t appreciate
>> derogatory terms of nutter and lunatic; they are hate speech.
>>
>> My claim on my web page that I am similar to many past
>> major and non-pagan religious figures is based on analysis
>> of patterns and individual events in my mystic cycles and
>> comparison to those of past figures, including Taliesin.
>>
>> Then why have I not generated a significant body of
>> poetry yet? Taliesin experienced a surge in poetic
>> creativity late in life, and I expect the same will be true
>> for me; indeed my low/working/ascetic/forsaken/wilderness
>> years have lasted 27.6 years so far, so long since I
>> have a global region, whereas Taliesin’s lasted the common
>> seven years (e.g. Jacob’s and Rama’s lasted 14 years).
>>
>> But perhaps you are referring to my Sisyphean attempts
>> to magickally instigate a new age as I am reporting
>> on alt.religion.druid? Since I am similar to some past
>> major figures I expect there will be some magick associated
>> with me. But I can’t be said to be delusional since I
>> won’t believe that my attempts are working without evidence.
>> However perhaps I will have to wait until my low years
>> reach 29 years (the common 7 plus three 11 year sunspot
>> cycles).
>>
>> --
>> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
>> "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
>> And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

> Good morning, David, you're seeing NancyGene and her ilk"s true colors now, as malicious trolls with an agenda to drive any newcomers from the poetry newsgroup a.

> Some us us argue with the trolls, others choose to skip and ignore (or killfile) them.

Agreed and seconded, and again, welcome to the poetry groups, David Dalton..!

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:41:18 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
> (in article<64400e69-a003-4050...@googlegroups.com>):
>
> > IOW: You're unemployed.
>
> My home care contract ended on August 9, and my Research
> Assistant contract ended on August 31, and having saved a
> fair bit in the last two years I am now taking some well-deserved
> time off, and may take a trip to visit friends in Vancouver and
> possibly one to visit my Ph.D. supervisor in Italy.
>
> But really my mystic pursuits have been effectively a
> volunteer night job, which I hope will soon reach fruition.
>
> You should realize that a number of historical poets have
> also been mystics as well; I guess you would call them
> fruitcakes as well?

Well put, David, and I notice that you've only received crickets in response so far.

🙂

> --
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
> And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand” (Ferron)

(Moved from the troll thread.)

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:59:16 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:42:04 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:41:18 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > > On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
> > > (in article<64400e69-a003-4050...@googlegroups.com>):
> > >
> > > > IOW: You're unemployed.
> > >
> > > My home care contract ended on August 9, and my Research
> > > Assistant contract ended on August 31, and having saved a
> > > fair bit in the last two years I am now taking some well-deserved
> > > time off, and may take a trip to visit friends in Vancouver and
> > > possibly one to visit my Ph.D. supervisor in Italy.
> > >
> > > But really my mystic pursuits have been effectively a
> > > volunteer night job, which I hope will soon reach fruition.
> > >
> > > You should realize that a number of historical poets have
> > > also been mystics as well; I guess you would call them
> > > fruitcakes as well?
> > Well put, David, and I notice that you've only received crickets in response so far.
> This is the first I've seen of David Fruitcake's reply. His post was from 12:41am. Those of us who work tend to go to bed before that time.
>
> No, David, I would not call poets who are also mystics fruitcakes.
>
> I happen to be a poet who is also a mystic.
>
> Your friends Will and Zod call me "Voodoo Boy" and accuse me of being "delusional" for believing in, and practicing, Magick.

When you were casting death curse on Zod and others you did look s little bit crazy and delusional, Pendragon.

HTH and HAND.

(Moved from the troll thread.)

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 11:23:54 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 10:24:21 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:59:16 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:42:04 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 12:41:18 AM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > > On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
> > > > > (in article<64400e69-a003-4050...@googlegroups.com>):
> > > > >
> > > > > > IOW: You're unemployed.
> > > > >
> > > > > My home care contract ended on August 9, and my Research
> > > > > Assistant contract ended on August 31, and having saved a
> > > > > fair bit in the last two years I am now taking some well-deserved
> > > > > time off, and may take a trip to visit friends in Vancouver and
> > > > > possibly one to visit my Ph.D. supervisor in Italy.
> > > > >
> > > > > But really my mystic pursuits have been effectively a
> > > > > volunteer night job, which I hope will soon reach fruition.
> > > > >
> > > > > You should realize that a number of historical poets have
> > > > > also been mystics as well; I guess you would call them
> > > > > fruitcakes as well?
> > > > Well put, David, and I notice that you've only received crickets in response so far.
> > > This is the first I've seen of David Fruitcake's reply. His post was from 12:41am. Those of us who work tend to go to bed before that time.
> > >
> > > No, David, I would not call poets who are also mystics fruitcakes.
> > >
> > > I happen to be a poet who is also a mystic.
> > >
> > > Your friends Will and Zod call me "Voodoo Boy" and accuse me of being "delusional" for believing in, and practicing, Magick.
> > When you were casting death curse on Zod and others you did look s little bit crazy and delusional, Pendragon.
> Ask the late Stephan Pickering

Like I said, you're a delusional little fuckwit, Pendragon.

> A death curse is no less real than any other form of magick.

Apparently it was just bogus mumbo jumbo, since years after the bogus curse Zod is still alive and well.

HTH and HAND.

(Moved from the troll thread.)

On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:19:53 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:05:54 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Pendragon, your biggest delusion is that you believe you're a better poet than T.S. Eliot.
> >
> > And if your death spell is for real, the fact remains that years later, the target of your bogus curse is alive and well.
> >
> > And so it goes.
> Spells don't always work

Obviously.

(Moved from the troll thread.)

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 11:38:35 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>> On Sep 12, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
>> (in article<e72c9859-86f2-48a2...@googlegroups.com>):
>> > On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:04:21 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>> > > On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
>> > > (in article<ff800f4a-fad9-496c...@googlegroups.com>):
>> > > > I didn't call you a fruitcake because of your Druidic religion. I called
>> > > > you
>> > > > a fruitcake because you believe that cross-posting your beliefs to a
>> > > > handful
>> > > > of Usenet groups (Usenet has been on life support for the past 20 years) is
>> > > > somehow going to usher in a new age of Paganism.
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyone who thinks that posting on Usenet is going to change the world, is
>> > > > totally crackers. It is indicative of a self-absorbed, narcissistic psyche
>> > > > with (obvious) delusions of grandeur. The world doesn't revolve around
>> > > > Usenet, much less David Dalton.
>> > > Obviously I am not doing my magick through Usenet, I am
>> > > reporting on it on Usenet, where I had far more readers
>> > > twenty years ago than I do now. And I don’t have
>> > > delusions of grandeur, I underwent an anointing by
>> > > the divine that effectively augmented my higher
>> > > dimensional body, and I am attempting to instigate
>> > > change by “flapping my higher dimensional butterfly
>> > > wings” (as I put it to atheists) or you can look at it
>> > > as a complicated prayer in which I have done much
>> > > of the groundwork over decades.
>> >
>> > And how is that working out for you?
>> >
>> > Your Usenet readership had dropped considerably (according to you), and the
>> > world doesn't seem to be any more Pagan than it did 20 years ago.
>> I am not trying to make the world more Pagan, as I
>> indicated in Nancy’s Nutter thread in a slightly different
>> followup in which I expanded on the above. I
>> would have preferred that Will hadn’t duplicated the thread;
>> perhaps he thought I had killfiled Nancy and followups
>> to her posts.

> Will claims that NancyGene and I are "malicious trolls"

Anyone reading here for any amount of time will see that's true.

> refuses to respond to posts in any of our threads.

I don't read or respond to most of the troll threads, true.

> This created a problem for Will because he also feels compelled to "set the record straight" by responding to our "lies."

Since you lie and misrepresent so much there's no way I could ever correct all of your smearing and attack posts, your lies and misrepresentations.

> Will solved the problem by 1) responding to the posts in our threads, and then, 2) copy/pasting them to a new thread.

> It doesn't actually resolve anything

Yes it does, I don't have to post on a troll thread.

>> > > > But all you're doing is pissing off 5 or 6 people in a group with less
>> > > > than a
>> > > > dozen members. You might as well sound off in your local supermarket for
>> > > > all
>> > > > the good that it's accomplishing.
>> > > With you who are easily pissed off as a welcoming committee,
>> > > I bet that many prospective regulars don’t stick around
>> > > and learn the ropes of the group.
>> >
>> > You'd lose.
>> >
>> > Most prospective readers get sick to death of wading through 40 "Hello Jordy"
>> > posts a day (and other off-topic bullshit).
>> >
>> > Here's the straight dope:
>> >
>> > AAPC is in a state of war between the poets (who want to use it as a poetry
>> > discussion group) and Will Dockery who wants to use it as his personal
>> > webpage.
>> Why can’t you just skip the posts of those you don’t want
>> to read? That is one advantage of Usenet, you
>> have a list of subject lines with names of posters,
>> and you can skip over them even in google groups and
>> killfile them if you have a good newsreader. I
>> read less than 5% of posts on alt.atheism.

> We do.

Same here.

> I use Google Groups (I find it much more user friendly than newsreaders), but I block/report

The "skip and ignore" policy, except that while you skip, you also need to learn how to ignore.

> The problem is that some of us want to attract new members to the group.

Except that Nancy Gene obviously immediately attempted to drive David Dalton away from the poetry group.

Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?

> Several years ago (seven?) Jim Senetto got the idea to start a thread where everyone could stop their fighting and post a poem each week

Which was a good idea, basically.

> Will couldn't stand for this, and started picking fights with Jim

A lie, as it was Senetto who picked any fights we had here, obsessed nutjob that he is.

> Will got back to his old tricks: picking fights with Jim

Another lie, Pendragon, but that's what you do, after all.

The archives will show that Jim Senetto is an obsessive nutjob who always instigated the flames, attacks, and when he'd finally melt down, his violent fantasies and threats.

> In the ensuing flame wars more members left -- including Jim

Along with the many poets you and your malicious troll friends drove away, see below for a partial list of poets Michael Pendragon and his gang drove away, just as they intended to drive David Dalton away.

You forgot to mention that the last thing Jim Senetto did before he left was suggest that poet George Dance be"shot in the head."

As I said, Jim Senetto is an obsessive nutjob with violent fantasies.

> My goal is to attract new poets

Yet your friend Nancy Gene immediately attempted to drive David Dalton away as soon as he arrived.

In other words, another one of your lies and misrepresentations, Pendragon. You and your fellow trolls are the ones driving new members away, to name a few your gang has driven away: Vinyl Cat, Antti, Karen, Mack, Philo... the list goes on.

When David Dalton arrived, he and everyone else could see that the malicious stalker troll Nancy Gene immediately went on the attack, to begin to try and drive Dalton away.

Again, why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?

>> >
>> > Over the course of the past 25 year, Will has managed to drive all of the
>> > poets away at least twice. He does this by spamming AAPC with b.s. posts,
>> > burying everyone else's poetry and conversations, picking fights, and
>> > bringing non-poet friends into the group to help him.
>> >
>> > Will has recently driven Jim Senetto out of the group with his b.s. There are
>> > very few of us left, and we're all getting fed up with him, so when someone
>> > buddies up with Will and contributes to his OT content, we're not going to
>> > welcome them with open arms.
>> >
>> > But if you're hinting that you're willing to learn the ropes, then I welcome
>> > a fellow mystic and poet to our group.
>> I’l try to be on-topic when posting to this newsgroup but I
>> will continue to occasionally crosspost to other poetry
>> groups, less likely to non-poetry groups (though I could
>> to mental health groups to get a discussion going on
>> the mental health of historical poets, for example).
>> But this is not one of my main groups, so I think I
>> will rarely post here, unless my poetic creativity returns.

> Thanks, David. On-topic posts are much appreciated.

>> Some of my “poem fragments”, some done when I was
>> hypomanic, are on
>>
>> https://www.nfld.com//~dalton/poemfrag.html .
>>
>> But though I had good wordplay ability then, I often
>> didn’t really finish projects, and I hope my creativity
>> will return soon and that it will include the ability
>> to stick to and finish projects.

...

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 7:00:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>> On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 9:04:21 PM UTC-4, David Dalton wrote:
>> >> On Sep 11, 2023, Michael Pendragon wrote
>> >>> (in article<ff800f4a-fad9-496c...@googlegroups.com>):
>
> >> > > > I didn't call you a fruitcake because of your Druidic religion. I called
>> >> > > > you
>> >> > > > a fruitcake because you believe that cross-posting your beliefs to a
>> >> > > > handful
>> >> > > > of Usenet groups (Usenet has been on life support for the past 20 years) is
>> >> > > > somehow going to usher in a new age of Paganism.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Anyone who thinks that posting on Usenet is going to change the world, is
>> >> > > > totally crackers. It is indicative of a self-absorbed, narcissistic psyche
>> >> > > > with (obvious) delusions of grandeur. The world doesn't revolve around
>> >> > > > Usenet, much less David Dalton.
>> >> > > Obviously I am not doing my magick through Usenet, I am
>> >> > > reporting on it on Usenet, where I had far more readers
>> >> > > twenty years ago than I do now. And I don’t have
>> >> > > delusions of grandeur, I underwent an anointing by
>> >> > > the divine that effectively augmented my higher
>> >> > > dimensional body, and I am attempting to instigate
>> >> > > change by “flapping my higher dimensional butterfly
>> >> > > wings” (as I put it to atheists) or you can look at it
>> >> > > as a complicated prayer in which I have done much
>> >> > > of the groundwork over decades.
>> >> >
>> >> > And how is that working out for you?
>> >> >
>> >> > Your Usenet readership had dropped considerably (according to you), and the
>> >> > world doesn't seem to be any more Pagan than it did 20 years ago.
>> >> I am not trying to make the world more Pagan, as I
>> >> indicated in Nancy’s Nutter thread in a slightly different
>> >> followup in which I expanded on the above. I
>> >> would have preferred that Will hadn’t duplicated the thread;
>> >> perhaps he thought I had killfiled Nancy and followups
>> >> to her posts.
>
>> > Will claims that NancyGene and I are "malicious trolls"
>
>> Anyone reading here for any amount of time will see that's true.
>
>> > refuses to respond
>
>> I don't read or respond to most of the troll threads, true.

>
>> > This created a problem for Will because he also feels compelled to "set the record straight" by responding to our "lies."
>
>> Since you lie and misrepresent so much there's no way I could ever correct all of your smearing and attack posts, your lies and misrepresentations.

>
>> > Will solved the problem by 1) responding to the posts in our threads, and then, 2) copy/pasting them to a new thread.
>>
>> > It doesn't actually resolve anything
>
>> Yes it does, I don't have to post on a troll thread.
>

>> >> > > > But all you're doing is pissing off 5 or 6 people in a group with less
>> >> > > > than a
>> >> > > > dozen members. You might as well sound off in your local supermarket for
>> >> > > > all
>> >> > > > the good that it's accomplishing.
>> >> > > With you who are easily pissed off as a welcoming committee,
>> >> > > I bet that many prospective regulars don’t stick around
>> >> > > and learn the ropes of the group.
>> >> >
>> >> > AAPC is in a state of war between the poets (who want to use it as a poetry
>> >> > discussion group) and Will Dockery who wants to use it as his personal
>> >> > webpage.

Again, that's a lie and a misrepresentation.

>> >> Why can’t you just skip the posts of those you don’t want
>> >> to read? That is one advantage of Usenet, you
>> >> have a list of subject lines with names of posters,
>> >> and you can skip over them even in google groups and
>> >> killfile them if you have a good newsreader. I
>> >> read less than 5% of posts on alt.atheism.
>>
>>
>> > I block/report
>
>> The "skip and ignore" policy, except that while you skip, you also need to learn how to ignore.

> No one can ignore

Sure, you could, but you'd rather whine and flame and troll about it.

>> Except that Nancy Gene obviously immediately attempted to drive David Dalton away from the poetry group.

>

> come to look with suspicion on those with whom you seem to be on friendly terms

Your paranoia is noted, again.

>> Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?
>
>> > started picking fights with Jim
>
>> A lie, as it was Senetto who picked any fights we had here, obsessed nutjob that he is.

> Jim asked you not to post the poems you submitted

And I didn't, again, why do you lie so much, Pendragon?

> Had you ever had any poetry accepted by a real magazine

I've been published dozens of times over the years, stop lying, Pendragon.

>> > Will got back to his old tricks: picking fights with Jim
>> Another lie, Pendragon, but that's what you do, after all.
>>
>> The archives will show that Jim Senetto is an obsessive nutjob who always instigated the flames, attacks, and when he'd finally melt down, his violent fantasies and threats.
>>

> The archives will show that everyone was supposed to submit a new poem

Which I did. As the archives will actually show, rather than your lies about what happened, Pendragon.

> When Jim insisted that you submit a new poem

No, I wrote new poetry when Senetto changed the rules, stop lying, Pendragon.

>> > In the ensuing flame wars more members left
>
>> Along with the many poets you and your malicious troll friends drove away, see below for a partial list of poets Michael Pendragon and his gang drove away, just as they intended to drive David Dalton away.
>>

>
>> You forgot to mention that the last thing Jim Senetto did before he left was suggest that poet George Dance be"shot in the head."

> As well he should -- although that would be too good for him. He really deserves to have a slow, painfully lingering death that all of us can savor.

Spoken like a true malicious troll ^^^^^^

>> As I said, Jim Senetto is an obsessive nutjob with violent fantasies.

> Jim isn't here

You brought Senetto up in your lies.

I corrected your lies and misrepresentations and set the record straight here.

>> Yet your friend Nancy Gene immediately attempted to drive David Dalton away as soon as he arrived.

> He appeared to be yet another one of your recruits

You sound paranoid, and Nancy Gene sounds like a malicious troll trying to drive David Dalton away from the poetry newsgroups.

>> In other words, another one of your lies and misrepresentations, Pendragon. You and your fellow trolls are the ones driving new members away, to name a few your gang has driven away: Vinyl Cat, Antti, Karen, Mack, Philo... the list goes on.
>>

> Vinyl Cat was not a poet

Again, a lie.

> Antti was a terrible poet

In your opinion only, not mine or several others here.

> Karen got along with pretty much everyone. She certainly got along with NancyGene and me

Karen gave the poster known as "ME" as the reason she was leaving, and mentioned that fsct a couple of times.

> Mack was not a poet

Mack, like Jordy, was a poetry reader who posted poems he'd chosen, and participated in discussions.

> Philo... was a friend of the Dunce. He barely interacted with anyone, and only posted one or two poems before leaving.

Wrong, Philo appeared here on and off for years, and posted many poems and discussion posts.

You revealed why you wanted Philo gone, though, he's a friend of George Dance, your enemy.

> Except for Karen, we're better off

In your opinion only, not mine or several others here.

>> When David Dalton arrived, he and everyone else could see that the malicious stalker troll Nancy Gene immediately went on the attack, to begin to try and drive Dalton away.
>>

> You keep saying that

Of course, since it's the obvious truth, look at the threads Nancy Gene has started to attack David Dalton in already.

Snipped for focus:

Yes, for nearly two decades my poetry and columns were published every month in Playgrounds Magazine.

You continue to deny this truth, and I'll continue to correct your lies and misrepresentations, Pendragon.

> Playgrounds Magazine / October 2014 issue
>
> http://spotidoc.com/doc/354845/playgrounds-free-m-a-g-a-z-i-n-e-oct-2014
>
> Page 24: To The Magic Store column by Will Dockery
>
> Page 24: "Tea Olive Ilk" poem by Will Dockery
^^^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^^^^°. ^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^

For one example of hundreds of poetry publication. ^^^^^^

And so it goes.

Will Dockery wrote:

> Snipped for focus and to correct some of the lies and misrepresentations Pendragon is trying to slip in :

> Vinyl Cat has written poetry for years, as well as creating art. The reception here was so harsh, with the agenda to drive newcomers away in place, she only posted a couple of poems here.

> Antti is another (in my opinion, a good one) poet, a long time Usenet regular, who you and your troll friends drove away with their malicious attacks.

> Just two of many your gang of thugs have driven away, Pendragon.

> HTH and HAND.

V.C. has written a great many poems, most of which I have read privately, in her company...

Quite an excellent poet and artist..!

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:08:14 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
> >
> > > Snipped for focus and to correct some of the lies and misrepresentations Pendragon is trying to slip in :
> >
> > > Vinyl Cat has written poetry for years, as well as creating art. The reception here was so harsh, with the agenda to drive newcomers away in place, she only posted a couple of poems here.
> >
> > > Antti is another (in my opinion, a good one) poet, a long time Usenet regular, who you and your troll friends drove away with their malicious attacks.
> >
> > > Just two of many your gang of thugs have driven away, Pendragon.
> > > HTH and HAND.
> >
> > V.C. has written a great many poems, most of which I have read privately, in her company...
> >
> > Quite an excellent poet and artist..!
> Please note that the above evaluation

Please note that Michael Pendragon is a delusional little fuckhead... a control freak on an ego trip, also... ha ha.

ME wrote:

> On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 at 20:20:13 UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
>> Ash Wurthing wrote:
>>
>> > On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:30:13 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:08:14 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> >> > On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-4, General-Zod wrote:
>> >> > > Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Snipped for focus and to correct some of the lies and misrepresentations Pendragon is trying to slip in :
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Vinyl Cat has written poetry for years, as well as creating art. The reception here was so harsh, with the agenda to drive newcomers away in place, she only posted a couple of poems here.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Antti is another (in my opinion, a good one) poet, a long time Usenet regular, who you and your troll friends drove away with their malicious attacks.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > Just two of many your gang of thugs have driven away, Pendragon.
>> >> > > > HTH and HAND.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > V.C. has written a great many poems, most of which I have read privately, in her company...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Quite an excellent poet and artist..!
>> >> > Please note that the above evaluation
>> >> Please note that Michael Pendragon is a delusional little fuckhead... a control freak on an ego trip, also... ha ha.
>>
>> > We cannot help but note that Will Dockery and General Zod cannot substantiate
>> Sure, I can, Ash.
>>
>> You're just making shit up as you go along, as usual.
>>
>> HTH and HAND.

> Damn will, don’t you just hate it when you get called out for doing the same thing you’re accusing others of doing

Not even it isn't true.

🙂

Will Dockery wrote:
>
> Snipped for focus:

> Yes, for nearly two decades my poetry and columns were published every month in Playgrounds Magazine.

> You continue to deny this truth, and I'll continue to correct your lies and misrepresentations, Pendragon.

>> Playgrounds Magazine / October 2014 issue
>>
>> http://spotidoc.com/doc/354845/playgrounds-free-m-a-g-a-z-i-n-e-oct-2014
>>
>> Page 24: To The Magic Store column by Will Dockery
>>
>> Page 24: "Tea Olive Ilk" poem by Will Dockery
> ^^^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^^^^°. ^^^^^^^^. ^^^^^^^^

> For one example of hundreds of poetry publication. ^^^^^^

> And so it goes.

Bravo... I says...

Michael Pendragon wrote:

> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 8:24:35 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 1:19:35 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:44:17 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
>> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>> > > >> Will Dockery wrote:
>> >> > >> roach wrote:
>> > > > >>> Faraway Star wrote:
>
>> > > > > >>> >> > Doc, count me in as a supporter of a valid plan for peace here as well...!
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> A couple of points we need to hash out on Pendragon's proposal, such as finding a way that Jordy doesn't have to be shut out, as I won't do that to a friend, but otherwise, the plan Pendragon put out looks very acceptable, basically.
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >>
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> I'm waiting on feedback from the others but it is looking good so far.
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > Jordy hasn't been "shut out" -- only his "Hello" posts. Since everyone has 25 posts a day, Jordy could post his links to the Poetry Foundation, youtube, etc., which the majority of us can skip and ignore. If you want to use one of your 25 posts to thank him for posting a link to a poem we're all familiar, you may do so.
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > Since the Treaty doesn't necessitate that anyone follow the Guidelines, Jordy could even post his rants about President Trump.
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> I've spoken with both George Dance and Zod about this matter, and we've agreed to try to engage Jordy in more discussion of the poetry he finds and posts here.
>> > > > > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Agreed and seconded...
>> > > > > > > > > >> > > I'll still follow that idea, truce or no truce.
>> > > > > > > > > >> > can i still call you wilbur ? (it's a term of endearment. :) like wilbur in the animated classic version of charlotte's web...the cute adorable pig.
>> > > > > > > > > >> I always liked Wilbur, but thought it came from Mister Ed.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Of course you did
>> > > > > > > > > > Not only would you be naturally attracted to a sitcom about a talking horse
>> > > > > > > > > I've watched all sorts of television shows over the years, Pendragon.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Today, I just watched Gary Coleman in "Different Strokes" and now "Facts of Life" is playing
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Don't be such a snob, Pendragon.
>> > > > > > > > I'm not being a snob
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > You deny being a delusional little fuckwit monkey also, Pendragon.
>> > > > > > You're behaving very childishly, Donkey. 70s sitcoms are just your speed.
>> > > > > > > > I'm merely pointing out that you have read very little (apart from comic books).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?
>> > > > > > You prove your illiteracy here over and over again ("Dorian Grey"!).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Have you read "The Golden Bough," "The White Goddess," or "The Power of Myth"?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > As per usual, you have pretended to be a Shaman, and have subsequently attacked Magick as "delusional" -- yet you have never bother to read any of literature that pertains to it.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > He pretended to be a shaman? I hope not. I know someone who's a descendant of actual shamans, aka medicine or wise men, and Dockery ain't no shaman. But it is funny to see a New Ager, who cliams to have a spirit guide, diss on Magick and the Unseen (Fae).
>> > > > >
>> > > > He co-published a "poetry journal" (although he was the only contributor
>> > > Not true, there were many other contributors to the Shaman zine.

<Snip>

>> Okay, how about another why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon, you shit slinging little monkey?

> It's an observation,

No, it's an attempted smear, a lie and a misrepresentation, Pendragon.

Nothing new for you, just your typical shit slinging.

HTH and HAND.

On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 1:39:14 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 1:20:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 12:59:55 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 12:43:44 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 12:36:00 PM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:20:19 AM UTC-4, W.Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 8:24:35 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 1:19:35 AM UTC-4, Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 8:44:17 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> Michael Pendragon wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >> Will Dockery wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > >> roach wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > >>> Faraway Star wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > >>> >> > Doc, count me in as a supporter of a valid plan for peace here as well...!
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> A couple of points we need to hash out on Pendragon's proposal, such as finding a way that Jordy doesn't have to be shut out, as I won't do that to a friend, but otherwise, the plan Pendragon put out looks very acceptable, basically.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> I'm waiting on feedback from the others but it is looking good so far.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > Jordy hasn't been "shut out" -- only his "Hello" posts. Since everyone has 25 posts a day, Jordy could post his links to the Poetry Foundation, youtube, etc., which the majority of us can skip and ignore. If you want to use one of your 25 posts to thank him for posting a link to a poem we're all familiar, you may do so.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > Since the Treaty doesn't necessitate that anyone follow the Guidelines, Jordy could even post his rants about President Trump.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> I've spoken with both George Dance and Zod about this matter, and we've agreed to try to engage Jordy in more discussion of the poetry he finds and posts here.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Agreed and seconded...
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > I'll still follow that idea, truce or no truce.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > can i still call you wilbur ? (it's a term of endearment. :) like wilbur in the animated classic version of charlotte's web...the cute adorable pig.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> I always liked Wilbur, but thought it came from Mister Ed.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Of course you did
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Not only would you be naturally attracted to a sitcom about a talking horse
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I've watched all sorts of television shows over the years, Pendragon.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Today, I just watched Gary Coleman in "Different Strokes" and now "Facts of Life" is playing
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Don't be such a snob, Pendragon.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm not being a snob
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You deny being a delusional little fuckwit monkey also, Pendragon.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > You're behaving very childishly, Donkey. 70s sitcoms are just your speed.
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm merely pointing out that you have read very little (apart from comic books).
> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon?
> > > > > > >> > > > > > You prove your illiteracy here over and over again ("Dorian Grey"!).
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > Have you read "The Golden Bough," "The White Goddess," or "The Power of Myth"?
> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > As per usual, you have pretended to be a Shaman, and have subsequently attacked Magick as "delusional" -- yet you have never bother to read any of literature that pertains to it.
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > He pretended to be a shaman? I hope not. I know someone who's a descendant of actual shamans, aka medicine or wise men, and Dockery ain't no shaman. But it is funny to see a New Ager, who cliams to have a spirit guide, diss on Magick and the Unseen (Fae).
> > > > > > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > He co-published a "poetry journal" (although he was the only contributor
> > > > > > >> > > Not true, there were many other contributors to the Shaman zine.
> > > > > > <Snip>
> > > > > > >> Okay, how about another why do you lie and misrepresent so much, Michael Pendragon, you shit slinging little monkey?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's an observation,
> > > > > > No, it's an attempted smear, a lie and a misrepresentation, Pendragon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing new for you, just your typical shit slinging.
> > > > > "Ironywaves" had much better, and more original, comebacks
> > > > In your delusional opinion, you mean.
> > > "Ironywaves" made more-or-less original statements, appeared to have some familiarity with the topics being discussed, and didn't rely on the same, tired, second-handed catch-phrases as you do.
> > I realized that dealing with trolls like you shouldn't have to take any effort.
> >
> > You're basically not worth my full attention.
> So... you're saying

I'm saying that trolls like you are not worth the effort.

HTH and HAND.