Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing
in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede
effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel
titled _Planets for Sale_.
The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity? Is
Artur Blord possibly a humerous juxtaposition of different
ethnicities like Jose Peterson in _Peanuts_? At one point
Peppermint Patty mentions that she has been invited to
the Petersons for Tortillas and Swedish meatballs.

My thanks in advance for any replies.

Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 1:33:17 PM UTC-4, Peter Wezeman wrote:
> Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
> in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing
> in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede
> effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel
> titled _Planets for Sale_.
>
> The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
> of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity? Is
> Artur Blord possibly a humerous juxtaposition of different
> ethnicities like Jose Peterson in _Peanuts_? At one point
> Peppermint Patty mentions that she has been invited to
> the Petersons for Tortillas and Swedish meatballs.
>
> My thanks in advance for any replies.
>

Let's not forget "Welcome Back, Kotter" had the sweathog,
Juan Epstein, and "Phineas & Feeb" had the redoubtable
Isabella Garcia-Shapiro. [ObSF_Animation]

https://phineasandferb.fandom.com/wiki/Isabella_Garcia-Shapiro

There's a theory that using wheaten flour for tortillas was an
innovation of immigrants to Mexico of Jewish heritage.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Tex-Arcana-What-s-the-history-of-tortillas-1752733.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Mexico

I'm visiting friends this week and the lady of the house was watching
a travel/cooking program...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Longoria:_Searching_for_Mexico

....and this idea was advanced in the episode: s1e4, "Nuevo Leon."

I was a good thing I had just polished off my dinner. The food
looked amazing. Eva always does.

--
Kevin R
a.a #2310

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 1:33:17 PM UTC-4, Peter Wezeman wrote:
> Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
> in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing
> in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede
> effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel
> titled _Planets for Sale_.
>
> The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
> of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity?

"Artur" is in my experience usually associated with someone from
Eastern Europe or Germany (Artur Rubinstein, for example).

"Blord" sounds like a typical truncation of a long Eastern European
name as in Maugham's "The Alien Corn" where the family, long
resident in England takes the last name "Bland" (Somerset was
in one of his less subtle moods in that story).

William Hyde

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 3:54:50 PM UTC-5, William Hyde wrote:
> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 1:33:17 PM UTC-4, Peter Wezeman wrote:
> > Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
> > in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing
> > in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede
> > effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel
> > titled _Planets for Sale_.
> >
> > The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
> > of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity?
> "Artur" is in my experience usually associated with someone from
> Eastern Europe or Germany (Artur Rubinstein, for example).
>
> "Blord" sounds like a typical truncation of a long Eastern European
> name as in Maugham's "The Alien Corn" where the family, long
> resident in England takes the last name "Bland" (Somerset was
> in one of his less subtle moods in that story).
>
Thank you for your reply. Is ''The Alien Corn" the one where the young
man is trying to learn to play the piano at a high level?

Peter Wezemqn
anti-social Darwinist

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 5:24:24 PM UTC-4, Peter Wezeman wrote:
> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 3:54:50 PM UTC-5, William Hyde wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 1:33:17 PM UTC-4, Peter Wezeman wrote:
> > > Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
> > > in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing
> > > in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede
> > > effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel
> > > titled _Planets for Sale_.
> > >
> > > The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
> > > of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity?
> > "Artur" is in my experience usually associated with someone from
> > Eastern Europe or Germany (Artur Rubinstein, for example).
> >
> > "Blord" sounds like a typical truncation of a long Eastern European
> > name as in Maugham's "The Alien Corn" where the family, long
> > resident in England takes the last name "Bland" (Somerset was
> > in one of his less subtle moods in that story).
> >
> Thank you for your reply. Is ''The Alien Corn" the one where the young
> man is trying to learn to play the piano at a high level?

That's the one. Something of a theme of Maugham's, though Philip
Cary finds something else worth doing in medicine when he's told that
he is a good but not good enough artist.

I knew a parallel in real life. The almost-but-not-quite good enough
pianist in this case went on to a doctorate in chemistry, and became
a neurologist.

William Hyde

On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 1:33:17 PM UTC-4, Peter Wezeman wrote:
> Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
> in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing
> in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede
> effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel
> titled _Planets for Sale_.
>
> The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
> of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity? [snip]

A number of Golden Age authors toyed with minor variations on
common 20th century names, apparently in an attempt to show how
names could change in the future. Kind of similar to the way Yohanan -
Johanan - Iohannes - Johann - John - Jan - Janko - Jean - Juan -
Gianni - Ivan - etc works.

In article <2152821a-bf80-4dd5-a341-ca289e36b4ecn@googlegroups.com>,
Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> wrote:
>On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 1:33:17 PM UTC-4, Peter Wezeman wrote:
>> Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
>> in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing
>> in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede
>> effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel
>> titled _Planets for Sale_.
>>
>> The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
>> of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity? [snip]
>
>A number of Golden Age authors toyed with minor variations on
>common 20th century names, apparently in an attempt to show how
>names could change in the future. Kind of similar to the way Yohanan -
>Johanan - Iohannes - Johann - John - Jan - Janko - Jean - Juan -
>Gianni - Ivan - etc works.

Or it could just be that she was van Vogt's wife and asked him
for a name. It's a very van Vogt sounding name.
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:15 -0700 (PDT), Peter Wezeman
<wep647078@gmail.com> wrote:

>Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
>in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing
>in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede
>effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel
>titled _Planets for Sale_.
>
>The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
>of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity? Is
>Artur Blord possibly a humerous juxtaposition of different
>ethnicities like Jose Peterson in _Peanuts_? At one point
>Peppermint Patty mentions that she has been invited to
>the Petersons for Tortillas and Swedish meatballs.
>
>My thanks in advance for any replies.

I'm fairly certain I once read a novel about "Artur the Boar", which
was somebody's name for the "real" King Arthur (a very early Briton
who tried to hold things together after the Romans left).

But I can't find it online! Even when asking /only/ for "Artur"
instead of "Arthur", most of the hits are for "Arthur". And none are
for a novel (from, say 40-50 years ago) about him.

Whether "Artur the Boar" and "Artur Blord" are in any way related, of
course, I have no idea.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

On 4/23/23 10:33, Peter Wezeman wrote:
>
> The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
> of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity?

For what little this is worth:

from
https://nameberry.com/babyname/artur
Artur
Portuguese, Polish, Estonian, Armenian variation of Arthur, Celtic"bear"
22% this week
Artur Origin and Meaning
The name Artur is boy's name of Irish origin meaning "bear".
The Arthur variation preferred in Portugal and across much of Eastern
Europe. It’s a truly international name, and one that would be easy to
wear in the US as well.
Artur Popularity
705
England
2021
60
Germany
2020
43
Portugal
2020
45
Poland
2022
25
Estonia
2022
20 Names Similar to Artur
These 20 names were selected by our users that were looking for other
names like Artur.
Halvard
Máible
Olívia
Bernado
Aguistin
Suus
Harto
Frédéric
Séraphin
Olyvia
Adèle
Filipe
Lennard
Osier
Birte
Charline
Elmar
Floor
Isibéal
Dinis
Lists containing Artur
European Boy Names
Boys Names That Start With A
Artur in Pop Culture
Artur Paendrag Tanreall from the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan

or / also

What nationality is Artur?
Artur Origin and Meaning
The name Artur is boy's name of Irish origin meaning "bear".

or

111,000,000 results (0.56 seconds)

Artur
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Artur
Artur is a cognate to the common male given name Arthur meaning
"bear-like". It is believed to possibly be descended from the Roman
surname Artorius or the ...
Meaning: Bear-like, Baseball
Pronunciation: Portuguese; Polish
Language(s): Latin or ‎Celtic

Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
>On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:15 -0700 (PDT), Peter Wezeman
><wep647078@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
>>in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing=20
>>in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede=20
>>effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel=20
>>titled _Planets for Sale_.=20
>>=20
>>The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
>>of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity? Is=20
>>Artur Blord possibly a humerous juxtaposition of different
>>ethnicities like Jose Peterson in _Peanuts_? At one point
>>Peppermint Patty mentions that she has been invited to
>>the Petersons for Tortillas and Swedish meatballs.
>>
>>My thanks in advance for any replies.
>
>I'm fairly certain I once read a novel about "Artur the Boar", which
>was somebody's name for the "real" King Arthur (a very early Briton
>who tried to hold things together after the Romans left).
>
>But I can't find it online! Even when asking /only/ for "Artur"
>instead of "Arthur", most of the hits are for "Arthur". And none are
>for a novel (from, say 40-50 years ago) about him.
>
>Whether "Artur the Boar" and "Artur Blord" are in any way related, of
>course, I have no idea.

In the first part of _The Hollow Hills_, Merlin recalls[*] that
he had once predicted that Artos (the Boar) would emerge from
Cornwall to unite Britian. Perhaps that is the source of your
recollection.

[*] When dropping baby Arthur off with his former nurse Moravik in Brittany.

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
>>On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:15 -0700 (PDT), Peter Wezeman
>><wep647078@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
>>>in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing=20
>>>in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede=20
>>>effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel=20
>>>titled _Planets for Sale_.=20
>>>=20
>>>The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
>>>of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity? Is=20
>>>Artur Blord possibly a humerous juxtaposition of different
>>>ethnicities like Jose Peterson in _Peanuts_? At one point
>>>Peppermint Patty mentions that she has been invited to
>>>the Petersons for Tortillas and Swedish meatballs.
>>>
>>>My thanks in advance for any replies.
>>
>>I'm fairly certain I once read a novel about "Artur the Boar", which
>>was somebody's name for the "real" King Arthur (a very early Briton
>>who tried to hold things together after the Romans left).
>>
>>But I can't find it online! Even when asking /only/ for "Artur"
>>instead of "Arthur", most of the hits are for "Arthur". And none are
>>for a novel (from, say 40-50 years ago) about him.
>>
>>Whether "Artur the Boar" and "Artur Blord" are in any way related, of
>>course, I have no idea.
>
>In the first part of _The Hollow Hills_, Merlin recalls[*] that
>he had once predicted that Artos (the Boar) would emerge from

Turns out that [Boar] goes back to 1136 in Geoffrey of Monmouth's
famous Historia Regum Britanniae

>Cornwall to unite Britian. Perhaps that is the source of your

On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 18:59:40 UTC+1, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> >Paul S Person <pspe...@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
> >>On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:15 -0700 (PDT), Peter Wezeman
> >><wep6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
> >>>in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing=20
> >>>in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede=20
> >>>effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel=20
> >>>titled _Planets for Sale_.=20
> >>>=20
> >>>The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
> >>>of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity? Is=20
> >>>Artur Blord possibly a humerous juxtaposition of different
> >>>ethnicities like Jose Peterson in _Peanuts_? At one point
> >>>Peppermint Patty mentions that she has been invited to
> >>>the Petersons for Tortillas and Swedish meatballs.
> >>>
> >>>My thanks in advance for any replies.
> >>
> >>I'm fairly certain I once read a novel about "Artur the Boar", which
> >>was somebody's name for the "real" King Arthur (a very early Briton
> >>who tried to hold things together after the Romans left).
> >>
> >>But I can't find it online! Even when asking /only/ for "Artur"
> >>instead of "Arthur", most of the hits are for "Arthur". And none are
> >>for a novel (from, say 40-50 years ago) about him.
> >>
> >>Whether "Artur the Boar" and "Artur Blord" are in any way related, of
> >>course, I have no idea.
> >
> >In the first part of _The Hollow Hills_, Merlin recalls[*] that
> >he had once predicted that Artos (the Boar) would emerge from
> >Cornwall to unite Britian. Perhaps that is the source of your

> Turns out that [Boar] goes back to 1136 in Geoffrey of Monmouth's
> famous Historia Regum Britanniae

I expect that what you say is true, but our friend "a45"
says that "Arthur" means "bear" in Celtic.

However, <https://www.behindthename.com> is not so sure,
and neither is <https://www.ancestry.co.uk/learn/facts>,
as there is "an obscure Roman family name" of Artorius.

On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 17:08:51 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

>Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
>>On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 10:33:15 -0700 (PDT), Peter Wezeman
>><wep647078@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Edna Mayne Hull published a series of six novellas from 1943 to 1946
>>>in _Astounding_, about big business "operators" wheeling and dealing=20
>>>in a future where colonization and industrialization often precede=20
>>>effective government. Five of these were published as a lash-up novel=20
>>>titled _Planets for Sale_.=20
>>>=20
>>>The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
>>>of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity? Is=20
>>>Artur Blord possibly a humerous juxtaposition of different
>>>ethnicities like Jose Peterson in _Peanuts_? At one point
>>>Peppermint Patty mentions that she has been invited to
>>>the Petersons for Tortillas and Swedish meatballs.
>>>
>>>My thanks in advance for any replies.
>>
>>I'm fairly certain I once read a novel about "Artur the Boar", which
>>was somebody's name for the "real" King Arthur (a very early Briton
>>who tried to hold things together after the Romans left).
>>
>>But I can't find it online! Even when asking /only/ for "Artur"
>>instead of "Arthur", most of the hits are for "Arthur". And none are
>>for a novel (from, say 40-50 years ago) about him.
>>
>>Whether "Artur the Boar" and "Artur Blord" are in any way related, of
>>course, I have no idea.
>
>In the first part of _The Hollow Hills_, Merlin recalls[*] that
>he had once predicted that Artos (the Boar) would emerge from
>Cornwall to unite Britian. Perhaps that is the source of your
>recollection.

I doubt it, since I don't remember reading it (I do, however, remember
reading Mallory in a library), although some references in and
reachable from [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hollow_Hills] are
consistent with late Roman/early post-Roman Britain. But "Artur the
Boar" was not the title, and I don't remember the title.

Then again, considering how long it has been, anything is possible.

>[*] When dropping baby Arthur off with his former nurse Moravik in Brittany.
--
"In this connexion, unquestionably the most significant
development was the disintegration, under Christian
influence, of classical conceptions of the family and
of family right."

On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 1:00:44 PM UTC-4, a425couple wrote:
> On 4/23/23 10:33, Peter Wezeman wrote:
> >
> > The protagonist is Artur Blord. Artur would seem to be a version
> > of Arthur. Does it suggest any particular ethnicity?
> For what little this is worth:
>
> from
> https://nameberry.com/babyname/artur
> Artur
> Portuguese, Polish, Estonian, Armenian variation of Arthur, Celtic"bear"
> 22% this week
> Artur Origin and Meaning
> The name Artur is boy's name of Irish origin meaning "bear".
> The Arthur variation preferred in Portugal and across much of Eastern
> Europe. It’s a truly international name, and one that would be easy to
> wear in the US as well.
> Artur Popularity
> 705
> England
> 2021
> 60
> Germany
> 2020
> 43
> Portugal
> 2020
> 45
> Poland
> 2022
> 25
> Estonia
> 2022
> 20 Names Similar to Artur
> These 20 names were selected by our users that were looking for other
> names like Artur.
> Halvard
> Máible
> Olívia
> Bernado
> Aguistin
> Suus
> Harto
> Frédéric
> Séraphin
> Olyvia
> Adèle
> Filipe
> Lennard
> Osier
> Birte
> Charline
> Elmar
> Floor
> Isibéal
> Dinis
> Lists containing Artur
> European Boy Names
> Boys Names That Start With A
> Artur in Pop Culture
> Artur Paendrag Tanreall from the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan
>
>
> or / also
>
> What nationality is Artur?
> Artur Origin and Meaning
> The name Artur is boy's name of Irish origin meaning "bear".
>
> or
>
> 111,000,000 results (0.56 seconds)
>
> Artur
> Wikipedia
> https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Artur
> Artur is a cognate to the common male given name Arthur meaning
> "bear-like". It is believed to possibly be descended from the Roman
> surname Artorius or the ...
> Meaning: Bear-like, Baseball
> Pronunciation: Portuguese; Polish
> Language(s): Latin or ‎Celtic

Add an "s" and you get the fine Latvian hockey goaltnder
Arturs Irbe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art%C5%ABrs_Irbe

The ""garais u" in his name has a line over it as shown:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C5%AA

--
Kevin R