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 `- Re: Strangely Quiet ! - into Collins and WaltonBarry Schwarz

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 by: a425couple - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 15:19 UTC

On 6/12/23 11:15, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:40:01 -0700, a425couple
> <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6/10/23 13:54, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>>> Considering the vastness of space, even if the likelyhood of
>>> intelligent species with radio transmission capability is very small,
>>> then there is still likely to be many such transmissiions.
>>>
>>> We're a good example.
>>>
>>> Yet, apparently nothing.
>>>
>>> Why ? !
>>
>> Well, In the 200,000 or so years of human development
>> on our planet Earth, we reached a point of scientific
>> knowledge and use, where for communication among ourselves,
>> we put out very powerful radio signals. We continued
>> development, and communicated more and better with
>> gradually weaker and weaker signals. Over great
>> distances out signals are now lost in all the background
>> noise of stars.
>>
>> Why should other very advanced civilizations need
>> to blast out very strong signals?
>
> Well, I would think that there would still be something from somebody.

Well, what do you think the real big universe situation is?

God created the universe 14+ Billion years ago, then
created our solar system 4.5 Billion years ago, then
started life going here, and finally got us recently
on the path to human (intelligent!?) life.

But,,, nothing like life anywhere else?

Or, just in the billions of other places, they never
got the right ingredients for intelligent life?

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 by: a425couple - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 17:04 UTC

On 6/13/23 09:18, Mark Earnest wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:19:38 AM UTC-5, a425couple wrote:
>> On 6/12/23 11:15, casagi...@optimum.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:40:01 -0700, a425couple
>>> <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/10/23 13:54, casagi...@optimum.net wrote:
>>>>> Considering the vastness of space, even if the likelyhood of
>>>>> intelligent species with radio transmission capability is very small,
>>>>> then there is still likely to be many such transmissiions.
>>>>>
>>>>> We're a good example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet, apparently nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why ? !
>>>>
>>>> Well, In the 200,000 or so years of human development
>>>> on our planet Earth, we reached a point of scientific
>>>> knowledge and use, where for communication among ourselves,
>>>> we put out very powerful radio signals. We continued
>>>> development, and communicated more and better with
>>>> gradually weaker and weaker signals. Over great
>>>> distances out signals are now lost in all the background
>>>> noise of stars.
>>>>
>>>> Why should other very advanced civilizations need
>>>> to blast out very strong signals?
>>>
>>> Well, I would think that there would still be something from somebody.
>> Well, what do you think the real big universe situation is?
>>
>> God created the universe 14+ Billion years ago, then
>> created our solar system 4.5 Billion years ago, then
>> started life going here, and finally got us recently
>> on the path to human (intelligent!?) life.
>>
>> But,,, nothing like life anywhere else?
>>
>> Or, just in the billions of other places, they never
>> got the right ingredients for intelligent life?
>
> I'm pretty sure there's life out there. A house is a home.

OK.
You figure life is out there.
Probably plenty. Probably some ahead of us, plenty behind us ?

Separate fact: There are plenty of 'primitive tribes' of humans
on our Earth, that we just do not bother communicating or dealing
with.

Do you figure, that is kind of similar to ETs being out there?

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 by: a425couple - Tue, 13 Jun 2023 18:05 UTC

On 6/13/23 10:04, a425couple wrote:
> On 6/13/23 09:18, Mark Earnest wrote:
>> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 10:19:38 AM UTC-5, a425couple wrote:
>>> On 6/12/23 11:15, casagi...@optimum.net wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:40:01 -0700, a425couple
>>>> <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/10/23 13:54, casagi...@optimum.net wrote:
>>>>>> Considering the vastness of space, even if the likelyhood of
>>>>>> intelligent species with radio transmission capability is very small,
>>>>>> then there is still likely to be many such transmissiions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're a good example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet, apparently nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why ? !
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, In the 200,000 or so years of human development
>>>>> on our planet Earth, we reached a point of scientific
>>>>> knowledge and use, where for communication among ourselves,
>>>>> we put out very powerful radio signals. We continued
>>>>> development, and communicated more and better with
>>>>> gradually weaker and weaker signals. Over great
>>>>> distances out signals are now lost in all the background
>>>>> noise of stars.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why should other very advanced civilizations need
>>>>> to blast out very strong signals?
>>>>
>>>> Well, I would think that there would still be something from somebody.
>>> Well, what do you think the real big universe situation is?
>>>
>>> God created the universe 14+ Billion years ago, then
>>> created our solar system 4.5 Billion years ago, then
>>> started life going here, and finally got us recently
>>> on the path to human (intelligent!?) life.
>>>
>>> But,,, nothing like life anywhere else?
>>>
>>> Or, just in the billions of other places, they never
>>> got the right ingredients for intelligent life?
>>
>> I'm pretty sure there's life out there.  A house is a home.
>
> OK.
> You figure life is out there.
> Probably plenty.  Probably some ahead of us, plenty behind us ?
>
> Separate fact:  There are plenty of 'primitive tribes' of humans
> on our Earth, that we just do not bother communicating or dealing
> with.
>
> Do you figure, that is kind of similar to ETs being out there?
>

As to the point of 'us' not communicating well with
the other 7 Billion humans on our own 'known' planet:

see:
https://www.wycliffe.org/

Wycliffe Bible Translators
No one should have to learn another language to understand God's Word.
And yet millions of people are still waiting for a single word of the
Bible's life-transforming power. Let's help churches and communities
around the world get Scripture in their language ... until all the
nations worship!

1.5 billion people
don’t have a full Bible in their language.

128 million people
don’t have any Scripture in their language.

350+ sign languages
are still waiting for a video Bible translation.

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 by: a425couple - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 16:18 UTC

On 6/14/23 01:10, Daniel65 wrote:
> a425couple wrote on 14/06/2023 1:19 am:
>> On 6/12/23 11:15, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:40:01 -0700, a425couple
>>> <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/10/23 13:54, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>>>>> Considering the vastness of space, even if the likelyhood of
>>>>> intelligent species with radio transmission capability is very small,
>>>>> then there is still likely to be many such transmissiions.
>>>>>
>>>>> We're a good example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet, apparently nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why ? !
>>>>
>>>> Well, In the 200,000 or so years of human development
>>>> on our planet Earth, we reached a point of scientific
>>>> knowledge and use, where for communication among ourselves,
>>>> we put out very powerful radio signals.  We continued
>>>> development, and communicated more and better with
>>>> gradually weaker and weaker signals.  Over great
>>>> distances out signals are now lost in all the background
>>>> noise of stars.
>>>>
>>>> Why should other very advanced civilizations need
>>>> to blast out very strong signals?
>>>
>>> Well, I would think that there would still be something from somebody.
>>
>> Well, what do you think the real big universe situation is?
>>
>> God created the universe 14+ Billion years ago, then
>> created our solar system 4.5 Billion years ago, then
>> started life going here, and finally got us recently
>> on the path to human (intelligent!?) life.
>
> No!! No!! No!! God created the Earth, etc., in about six days ....
> something like 6,000 years ago, wasn't it?? ;-)

Daniel, you, of course, can believe anything you want to believe.

I believe God created the universe, and our Sun, and Earth,
and all plants and animals contained on it.
I do not believe that my Apple watch, as that timepiece
records time, would record it as being in 6 days.
I also believe that "something like 6,000 years ago" God
created Adam, and then Eve. But I do not see that a careful
reading of the Bible tries to rule out God using an existing
population of thousands that was gradually evolving to do so.

I welcome you to state your beliefs.
I also welcome readers here to read more about distinguished
religious scholars like Francis Collins and John Walton.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Collins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_H._Walton

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 by: Barry Schwarz - Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:01 UTC

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 09:18:44 -0700, a425couple
<a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 6/14/23 01:10, Daniel65 wrote:
>> a425couple wrote on 14/06/2023 1:19 am:
>>> On 6/12/23 11:15, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 09:40:01 -0700, a425couple
>>>> <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/10/23 13:54, casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote:
>>>>>> Considering the vastness of space, even if the likelyhood of
>>>>>> intelligent species with radio transmission capability is very small,
>>>>>> then there is still likely to be many such transmissiions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're a good example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet, apparently nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why ? !
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, In the 200,000 or so years of human development
>>>>> on our planet Earth, we reached a point of scientific
>>>>> knowledge and use, where for communication among ourselves,
>>>>> we put out very powerful radio signals.  We continued
>>>>> development, and communicated more and better with
>>>>> gradually weaker and weaker signals.  Over great
>>>>> distances out signals are now lost in all the background
>>>>> noise of stars.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why should other very advanced civilizations need
>>>>> to blast out very strong signals?
>>>>
>>>> Well, I would think that there would still be something from somebody.
>>>
>>> Well, what do you think the real big universe situation is?
>>>
>>> God created the universe 14+ Billion years ago, then
>>> created our solar system 4.5 Billion years ago, then
>>> started life going here, and finally got us recently
>>> on the path to human (intelligent!?) life.
>>
>> No!! No!! No!! God created the Earth, etc., in about six days ....
>> something like 6,000 years ago, wasn't it?? ;-)
>
>Daniel, you, of course, can believe anything you want to believe.

You missed the smiley at the end of his post.

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