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* World UFO DayDavid Dalton
+* Re: World UFO Dayartyw2@yahoo.com
|`* Re: World UFO DayDimensional Traveler
| +* Re: World UFO Dayted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
| |+* Re: World UFO DayCharles Packer
| ||`* Re: World UFO DayTony Nance
| || `- Re: World UFO DayCharles Packer
| |+- Re: World UFO DayKevrob
| |`* Re: World UFO DayThe Horny Goat
| | `- Re: World UFO Dayted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan
| `* Re: World UFO DayThe Horny Goat
|  +- Re: World UFO DayDorothy J Heydt
|  +* Re: World UFO DayRobert Woodward
|  |+- Re: World UFO DayDimensional Traveler
|  |`- Re: World UFO DayThe Horny Goat
|  `- Re: World UFO DayDimensional Traveler
`- Re: World UFO DayAndrew McDowell

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 by: David Dalton - Sun, 2 Jul 2023 10:33 UTC

Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.

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 by: artyw2@yahoo.com - Sun, 2 Jul 2023 15:36 UTC

On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24 AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.

World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Sun, 2 Jul 2023 16:59 UTC

On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24 AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>
> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?

They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
America?

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dirty old man.

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 by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Sun, 2 Jul 2023 17:08 UTC

In article <u7sacn$3c4kl$4@dont-email.me>,
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24 AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>>
>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
>
>They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
>America?
>

Personally, I celebrate World Contact Day on 15 March.
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 by: Charles Packer - Mon, 3 Jul 2023 08:00 UTC

On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 17:08:18 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:

> In article <u7sacn$3c4kl$4@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24 AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>>>
>>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
>>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
>>
>>They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
>>America?
>>
>>
> Personally, I celebrate World Contact Day on 15 March.

A quick check shows no notice was paid by any newspaper in 1953,
the year of the supposed first World Contact Day. The first
mention I find is in a promotion of an album by the rock duo
The Carpenters in 1977.

As for World UFO Day, it falls between Canada Day and Independence
Day because that week was the peak of the first flying saucer
frenzy -- in North America -- in 1947.

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 by: Kevrob - Mon, 3 Jul 2023 08:23 UTC

On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 1:08:23 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> In article <u7sacn$3c4kl$4...@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, art...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24 AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
> >>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
> >>
> >> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
> >> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
> >
> >They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
> >America?
> >
> Personally, I celebrate World Contact Day on 15 March.
> --
>

Great. Contact the Alien Space Bats and let them know we are here
to be messed with, teased probed or put on the menu.

--
Kevin R

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 by: Tony Nance - Mon, 3 Jul 2023 18:45 UTC

On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:00:45 AM UTC-4, Charles Packer wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 17:08:18 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>
> > In article <u7sacn$3c4kl$4...@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
> > <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >>On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, art...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24 AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
> >>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
> >>>
> >>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
> >>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
> >>
> >>They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
> >>America?
> >>
> >>
> > Personally, I celebrate World Contact Day on 15 March.
> A quick check shows no notice was paid by any newspaper in 1953,
> the year of the supposed first World Contact Day. The first
> mention I find is in a promotion of an album by the rock duo
> The Carpenters in 1977.
>

That actually makes sense. The Carpenters had a decent hit
titled "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft", which is a
cover version of a song by the band Klaatu. Klaatu took the
title from the first line of the telepathic message that the
participants of World Contact Day are to send into space.

Just a little more can be seen here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calling_Occupants_of_Interplanetary_Craft

Tony

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 by: Charles Packer - Tue, 4 Jul 2023 07:45 UTC

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 11:45:31 -0700, Tony Nance wrote:

> On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 4:00:45 AM UTC-4, Charles Packer wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 17:08:18 +0000, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <u7sacn$3c4kl$4...@dont-email.me>, Dimensional Traveler
>> > <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> >>On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, art...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> >>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24 AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>> >>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>> >>>
>> >>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO
>> >>> day.
>> >>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
>> >>
>> >>They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central
>> >>North America?
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Personally, I celebrate World Contact Day on 15 March.
>> A quick check shows no notice was paid by any newspaper in 1953,
>> the year of the supposed first World Contact Day. The first mention I
>> find is in a promotion of an album by the rock duo The Carpenters in
>> 1977.
>>
>>
> That actually makes sense. The Carpenters had a decent hit titled
> "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft", which is a cover version of
> a song by the band Klaatu. Klaatu took the title from the first line of
> the telepathic message that the participants of World Contact Day are to
> send into space.
>
> Just a little more can be seen here:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calling_Occupants_of_Interplanetary_Craft
>
> Tony

With more scrutiny I do indeed find a 1976 mention in the Fort Worth
Star-Telegram of World Contact Day in an item about the release
of the album by the group Klaatu, titled "Klaatu."

Here things get weird. Wikipedia says that World Contact Day
originated in March, 1953 when the International Flying Saucer
Bureau "sent a bulletin to all its members urging them to
participate in an experiment termed 'World Contact Day'..."
Searching in the newspaper database on the organization's name,
I do indeed find news items in 1953 about the organization
itself, but nothing about World Contact Day. Instead, the items,
in various U.S. papers, take note new chapters of the organization.
Although the organization is said to be located in Bridgeport,
Conn., the earliest items about it, from Feb. 1953, are in British
and Canadian newspapers.

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 by: The Horny Goat - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 04:13 UTC

On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 09:59:04 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24?AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>>
>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
>
>They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
>America?

Heh heh - now would that be the annual one day war on Superbowl Sunday
or the every 4 year one day war on Election Day?

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 by: The Horny Goat - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 04:14 UTC

On 2 Jul 2023 17:08:18 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
wrote:

>In article <u7sacn$3c4kl$4@dont-email.me>,
>Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24 AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>>>
>>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
>>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
>>
>>They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
>>America?
>>
>
>Personally, I celebrate World Contact Day on 15 March.

Now why do you prefer the Ides of March?!?

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In article <sllpaipisfl830cj776lpbn333q2afmc3j@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 09:59:04 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>>On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24?AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>>>
>>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
>>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
>>
>>They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
>>America?
>
>Heh heh - now would that be the annual one day war on Superbowl Sunday
>or the every 4 year one day war on Election Day?

(Hal Heydt)
It's clearly not the SCA one in western Pennsylvania. 'Cause that
one lasts for 2 weeks.

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 by: ted@loft.tnolan.com - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 04:52 UTC

In article <lnlpaite8r5gd6p1aeg1lblbdo8cqedctb@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>On 2 Jul 2023 17:08:18 GMT, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <u7sacn$3c4kl$4@dont-email.me>,
>>Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24 AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>>>>
>>>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
>>>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
>>>
>>>They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
>>>America?
>>>
>>
>>Personally, I celebrate World Contact Day on 15 March.
>
>Now why do you prefer the Ides of March?!?

It's a great day to get together with old friends!
--
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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 by: Robert Woodward - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 04:52 UTC

In article <sllpaipisfl830cj776lpbn333q2afmc3j@4ax.com>,
The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 09:59:04 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> >On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24?AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
> >>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
> >>
> >> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
> >> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
> >
> >They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
> >America?
>
> Heh heh - now would that be the annual one day war on Superbowl Sunday
> or the every 4 year one day war on Election Day?

Considering when it was posted, it might had been a reference to all the
fireworks that are set off on July 4th. Up to several years ago, when
the local city outlawed private use of fireworks, I was using the term
"the bombardment" to describe evenings in my neighborhood on July 4th.

--
"We have advanced to new and surprising levels of bafflement."
Imperial Auditor Miles Vorkosigan describes progress in _Komarr_.
-------------------------------------------------------
Robert Woodward robertaw@drizzle.com

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:28 UTC

On 7/10/2023 9:13 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 09:59:04 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24?AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>>>
>>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
>>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
>>
>> They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
>> America?
>
> Heh heh - now would that be the annual one day war on Superbowl Sunday
> or the every 4 year one day war on Election Day?

The one that occurs every year 2 days after the original post. ;)

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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 by: Dimensional Traveler - Tue, 11 Jul 2023 15:29 UTC

On 7/10/2023 9:52 PM, Robert Woodward wrote:
> In article <sllpaipisfl830cj776lpbn333q2afmc3j@4ax.com>,
> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 09:59:04 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/2/2023 8:36 AM, artyw2@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 5:33:24?AM UTC-5, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>>>>
>>>> World UFO Day? Let me know when it is at least solar system UFO day.
>>>> How are we going to know if the aliens are celebrating this?
>>>
>>> They start re-appearing to watch the annual one-day war in central North
>>> America?
>>
>> Heh heh - now would that be the annual one day war on Superbowl Sunday
>> or the every 4 year one day war on Election Day?
>
> Considering when it was posted, it might had been a reference to all the
> fireworks that are set off on July 4th. Up to several years ago, when
> the local city outlawed private use of fireworks, I was using the term
> "the bombardment" to describe evenings in my neighborhood on July 4th.
>
*touches finger to nose*

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 21:52:33 -0700, Robert Woodward
<robertaw@drizzle.com> wrote:

>Considering when it was posted, it might had been a reference to all the
>fireworks that are set off on July 4th. Up to several years ago, when
>the local city outlawed private use of fireworks, I was using the term
>"the bombardment" to describe evenings in my neighborhood on July 4th.
>
My firstborn was born July 1st (we're in Canada) while her sister was
born 2 years later on July 22nd.

It took until she was 8 years old until she figured out why "Mary got
fireworks on her birthday and I don't"

Now she lives in England and celebrates Guy Fawkes like a native Brit.

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 by: Andrew McDowell - Sat, 5 Aug 2023 18:32 UTC

On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 11:33:24 AM UTC+1, David Dalton wrote:
> Today (July 2, 2023) is World UFO Day.
>
> --
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "This could be the final breath; This is life and death;
> This is hard rock and water; Out here between wind and flame;
> Between tears and elation; Lies a secret nation" (Ron Hynes)
Baen Free Radio Hour for August 4th (so most recent version) is a panel discussion on the UFO/UAP sightings such as the "tic tac" sightings. Partly based on what I have heard there my own thoughts are:

1) I don't believe that we have alien technology derived from UFOs - I think the step change in technology could not be hidden while educating enough people to make use of the technology - and if we had the technology it would be too beneficial to the general economy to keep secret. Even national security would get a higher benefit from a large increase in GDP than from a few wonder-weapons too secret to be used except in dire need.

2) I don't think the sightings are of piloted or unpiloted vehicles designed in secret by humans, e.g. USAF; I think their manoeuvres are too drastic, and they would produce far more atmospheric heating than has been observed..

3) Assuming the sightings are not entirely human error and misinterpretation, they could perhaps be the result of a technology specifically designed to confuse and jam sensors, including something capable of generating optical illusions in the open air. The military application of this would be as an alternative to, or a complement to, stealth technology.

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