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Bedlam Planet by John Brunner

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From: jdnic...@panix.com (James Nicoll)
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Subject: Bedlam Planet by John Brunner
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by: James Nicoll - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 13:05 UTC

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by: Christian Weisgerber - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 15:47 UTC

On 2023-09-26, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:

> Bedlam Planet by John Brunner
> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/our-separate-ways

| Another comparison that comes to mind is Brian Stableford’s
| Daedalus Mission series, which ran from 1976 to 1979. Like the
| Daedalus Mission books, the evidence strongly suggests that this
| was a premature colonization effort.

Something of a popular theme at the time? Niven did this, too.
The rambot probes find a habitable world, colonists arrive on
a one-way trip and discover that there are caveats to the "habitable"
part: Plateau, where only a mountain top has a climate that can support
humans; We Made It, where enormously strong winds render the surface
uninhabitable for part of the year, IIRC.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

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by: James Nicoll - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:53 UTC

In article <slrnuh5v8n.1jh3.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de>,
Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>On 2023-09-26, James Nicoll <jdnicoll@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> Bedlam Planet by John Brunner
>> https://jamesdavisnicoll.com/review/our-separate-ways
>
>| Another comparison that comes to mind is Brian Stableford’s
>| Daedalus Mission series, which ran from 1976 to 1979. Like the
>| Daedalus Mission books, the evidence strongly suggests that this
>| was a premature colonization effort.
>
>Something of a popular theme at the time? Niven did this, too.
>The rambot probes find a habitable world, colonists arrive on
>a one-way trip and discover that there are caveats to the "habitable"
>part: Plateau, where only a mountain top has a climate that can support
>humans; We Made It, where enormously strong winds render the surface
>uninhabitable for part of the year, IIRC.

In this case, a four person crew lived on the planet for six months.
No surprises like the ones waiting at Jinx and so on. Just subtle
surprises that six months isn't long enough to reveal.
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by: Steve Coltrin - Tue, 26 Sep 2023 22:34 UTC

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Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> writes:

> Something of a popular theme at the time? Niven did this, too.
> The rambot probes find a habitable world, colonists arrive on
> a one-way trip and discover that there are caveats to the "habitable"
> part: Plateau, where only a mountain top has a climate that can support
> humans; We Made It, where enormously strong winds render the surface
> uninhabitable for part of the year, IIRC.

Yep, similarly Jinx was vacuum at the poles, sub-Venus with sapient
monsters at the equator. Home was doomed for plot reasons but the probe
couldn't detect that. Wunderland appears to have been just right.

--
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by: pete...@gmail.com - Wed, 27 Sep 2023 14:24 UTC

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 6:35:10 PM UTC-4, Steve Coltrin wrote:
> begin fnord
> Christian Weisgerber <na...@mips.inka.de> writes:
>
> > Something of a popular theme at the time? Niven did this, too.
> > The rambot probes find a habitable world, colonists arrive on
> > a one-way trip and discover that there are caveats to the "habitable"
> > part: Plateau, where only a mountain top has a climate that can support
> > humans; We Made It, where enormously strong winds render the surface
> > uninhabitable for part of the year, IIRC.
> Yep, similarly Jinx was vacuum at the poles, sub-Venus with sapient
> monsters at the equator. Home was doomed for plot reasons but the probe
> couldn't detect that. Wunderland appears to have been just right.

Niven stipulated unmanned probes that were sent to look for 'habitable'
planets. But they could only send one single bit of information back: 'habitable'
or 'uninhabitable'.

There's a whole WORLD in a mud puddle! -- Doug Clifford

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Subject	Author
Bedlam Planet by John Brunner	James Nicoll
Re: Bedlam Planet by John Brunner	Christian Weisgerber
Re: Bedlam Planet by John Brunner	James Nicoll
Re: Bedlam Planet by John Brunner	Steve Coltrin
Re: Bedlam Planet by John Brunner	pete...@gmail.com