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 by: General-Zod - Mon, 3 Jul 2023 19:42 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> news:9a488ddc-3ad3-466b-ac5b-b50856188240@googlegroups.com...
>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the one, from Hustler - December 1976 -
>> > > > > > > > > > Interview "Dialog of a dirty old Man":
>> >
>> > https://bukowskiforum.com/threads/buk-in-mens-mags.3768/
>> >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Bukowski stated in an interview:
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > "When interviewed in Hustler magazine, Bukowski
>> > > > > > > > > > > > admitted to watching a little girl play in her yard,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > and masturbating. He goes on to say he would let an
>> > > > > > > > > > > > eight year old girl s**k his c**k 'if she wanted
>> > > > > > > > > > > > to',
>> > > > > > > > > > > > and how nice it is when they put on their roller
>> > > > > > > > > > > > skates in short skirts because you can see their
>> > > > > > > > > > > > panties..."
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Tough stuff, which Buk actually said in an interview,
>> > > > > > > > > > not
>> > > > > > > > > > fiction or poetry.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Yikes........
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Buk was an odd fellow..............
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Buk was an untalented, illiterate pig.
>> > > >
>> > > > <snip>
>> > > >
>> > > > > Petulantly insulting your betters won't get you anywhere
>> > > >
>> > > > And Bukowski is obviously better, by your logic, since his poetry
>> > > > sold
>> > > > better than ours?
>>
>> Bukowski, otoh, was not a poet

> You forgot to add that's in your ignorant bullshit opinion.

And quite definitely untrue, as Buk was well known as one of the greatest poets of his time...

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 by: W.Dockery - Thu, 6 Jul 2023 01:29 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:9a488ddc-3ad3-466b-ac5b-b50856188240@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the one, from Hustler - December 1976 -
>>> > > > > > > > > > Interview "Dialog of a dirty old Man":
>>> >
>>> > https://bukowskiforum.com/threads/buk-in-mens-mags.3768/
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Bukowski stated in an interview:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > "When interviewed in Hustler magazine, Bukowski
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > admitted to watching a little girl play in her yard,
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and masturbating. He goes on to say he would let an
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > eight year old girl s**k his c**k 'if she wanted
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > to',
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and how nice it is when they put on their roller
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > skates in short skirts because you can see their
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > panties..."
>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > Tough stuff, which Buk actually said in an interview,
>>> > > > > > > > > > not
>>> > > > > > > > > > fiction or poetry.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Yikes........
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Buk was an odd fellow..............
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Buk was an untalented, illiterate pig.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > <snip>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Petulantly insulting your betters won't get you anywhere
>>> > > >
>>> > > > And Bukowski is obviously better, by your logic, since his poetry
>>> > > > sold
>>> > > > better than ours?
>>>
>>> Bukowski, otoh, was not a poet

>> You forgot to add that's in your ignorant bullshit opinion.

> And quite definitely untrue, as Buk was well known as one of the greatest poets of his time...

That's correct.

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 by: W.Dockery - Sun, 16 Jul 2023 10:13 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:9a488ddc-3ad3-466b-ac5b-b50856188240@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the one, from Hustler - December 1976 -
>>> > > > > > > > > > Interview "Dialog of a dirty old Man":
>>> >
>>> > https://bukowskiforum.com/threads/buk-in-mens-mags.3768/
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Bukowski stated in an interview:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > "When interviewed in Hustler magazine, Bukowski
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > admitted to watching a little girl play in her yard,
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and masturbating. He goes on to say he would let an
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > eight year old girl s**k his c**k 'if she wanted
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > to',
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and how nice it is when they put on their roller
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > skates in short skirts because you can see their
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > panties..."
>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > Tough stuff, which Buk actually said in an interview,
>>> > > > > > > > > > not
>>> > > > > > > > > > fiction or poetry.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Yikes........
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Buk was an odd fellow..............
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Buk was an untalented, illiterate pig.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > <snip>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Petulantly insulting your betters won't get you anywhere
>>> > > >
>>> > > > And Bukowski is obviously better, by your logic, since his poetry
>>> > > > sold
>>> > > > better than ours?
>>>
>>> Bukowski, otoh, was not a poet

>> You forgot to add that's in your ignorant bullshit opinion.

> And quite definitely untrue, as Buk was well known as one of the greatest poets of his time...

Again, no doubt about it.

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 by: General-Zod - Thu, 24 Aug 2023 18:30 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

>>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>>> news:9a488ddc-3ad3-466b-ac5b-b50856188240@googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the one, from Hustler - December 1976 -
>>>> > > > > > > > > > Interview "Dialog of a dirty old Man":
>>>> >
>>>> > https://bukowskiforum.com/threads/buk-in-mens-mags.3768/
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Bukowski stated in an interview:
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > "When interviewed in Hustler magazine, Bukowski
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > admitted to watching a little girl play in her yard,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and masturbating. He goes on to say he would let an
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > eight year old girl s**k his c**k 'if she wanted
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > to',
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and how nice it is when they put on their roller
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > skates in short skirts because you can see their
>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > panties..."
>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > > Tough stuff, which Buk actually said in an interview,
>>>> > > > > > > > > > not
>>>> > > > > > > > > > fiction or poetry.
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Yikes........
>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > > Buk was an odd fellow..............
>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>> > > > > > > > Buk was an untalented, illiterate pig.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > <snip>
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > Petulantly insulting your betters won't get you anywhere
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > And Bukowski is obviously better, by your logic, since his poetry
>>>> > > > sold
>>>> > > > better than ours?
>>>>
>>>> Bukowski, otoh, was not a poet

>>> You forgot to add that's in your ignorant bullshit opinion.

>> And quite definitely untrue, as Buk was well known as one of the greatest poets of his time...

> That's correct.

As is well known...

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 by: W.Dockery - Sat, 26 Aug 2023 16:13 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>>>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>>>> news:9a488ddc-3ad3-466b-ac5b-b50856188240@googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the one, from Hustler - December 1976 -
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Interview "Dialog of a dirty old Man":
>>>>> >
>>>>> > https://bukowskiforum.com/threads/buk-in-mens-mags.3768/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Bukowski stated in an interview:
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > "When interviewed in Hustler magazine, Bukowski
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > admitted to watching a little girl play in her yard,
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and masturbating. He goes on to say he would let an
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > eight year old girl s**k his c**k 'if she wanted
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > to',
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and how nice it is when they put on their roller
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > skates in short skirts because you can see their
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > panties..."
>>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Tough stuff, which Buk actually said in an interview,
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > not
>>>>> > > > > > > > > > fiction or poetry.
>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > Yikes........
>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > > Buk was an odd fellow..............
>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>> > > > > > > > Buk was an untalented, illiterate pig.
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > <snip>
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > > Petulantly insulting your betters won't get you anywhere
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > And Bukowski is obviously better, by your logic, since his poetry
>>>>> > > > sold
>>>>> > > > better than ours?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bukowski, otoh, was not a poet

>>>> You forgot to add that's in your ignorant bullshit opinion.

>>> And quite definitely untrue, as Buk was well known as one of the greatest poets of his time...

>> That's correct.

> As is well known...

Good afternoon, again, agreed.

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 by: General-Zod - Fri, 22 Sep 2023 19:55 UTC

Will Dockery wrote:

>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
> news:9a488ddc-3ad3-466b-ac5b-b50856188240@googlegroups.com...
>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the one, from Hustler - December 1976 -
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Interview "Dialog of a dirty old Man":
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > https://bukowskiforum.com/threads/buk-in-mens-mags.3768/
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Bukowski stated in an interview:
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > "When interviewed in Hustler magazine, Bukowski
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > admitted to watching a little girl play in her yard,
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and masturbating. He goes on to say he would let an
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > eight year old girl s**k his c**k 'if she wanted
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > to',
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and how nice it is when they put on their roller
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > skates in short skirts because you can see their
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > panties..."
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > Tough stuff, which Buk actually said in an interview,
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > not
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > fiction or poetry.
>>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Yikes........
>>>>>> > > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Buk was an odd fellow..............
>>>>>> > > > > > > >
>>>>>> > > > > > > > Buk was an untalented, illiterate pig.
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > <snip>
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > > Petulantly insulting your betters won't get you anywhere
>>>>>> > > >
>>>>>> > > > And Bukowski is obviously better, by your logic, since his poetry
>>>>>> > > > sold
>>>>>> > > > better than ours?
>
>> Bukowski, otoh, was not a poet

>
> You forgot to add that's in your ignorant bullshit opinion.

And as he often does, Penhead tries to pass his ignorant opinions off as facts...

That is all.

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Corrected link:

Shadowville Speedway / Will Dockery & Henry Conley:

https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/8798172-shadowville-speedway--will-dockery

"...Shadowville All-Stars provide the musical canvas for the word paintings of Will Dockery, the Poet Laureate of Shadowville. Individually, we are a dozen-...or-so musical merry pranksters who rotate in and out of the lineup at different venues. Collectively we are The Shadowville All-Stars. Artists who share the stage with us in a live performance become Shadowville All-Stars forever. It's kind of like the Baseball Hall-of-Fame, only you can't get kicked out for gambling..." -Dennis Beck

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 by: W.Dockery - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 07:19 UTC

Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:9a488ddc-3ad3-466b-ac5b-b50856188240@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the one, from Hustler - December 1976 -
>>> > > > > > > > > > Interview "Dialog of a dirty old Man":
>>> >
>>> > https://bukowskiforum.com/threads/buk-in-mens-mags.3768/
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Bukowski stated in an interview:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > "When interviewed in Hustler magazine, Bukowski
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > admitted to watching a little girl play in her yard,
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and masturbating. He goes on to say he would let an
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > eight year old girl s**k his c**k 'if she wanted
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > to',
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and how nice it is when they put on their roller
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > skates in short skirts because you can see their
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > panties..."
>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > Tough stuff, which Buk actually said in an interview,
>>> > > > > > > > > > not
>>> > > > > > > > > > fiction or poetry.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Yikes........
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Buk was an odd fellow..............
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Buk was an untalented, illiterate pig.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > <snip>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Petulantly insulting your betters won't get you anywhere
>>> > > >
>>> > > > And Bukowski is obviously better, by your logic, since his poetry
>>> > > > sold
>>> > > > better than ours?
>>>
>>> Bukowski, otoh, was not a poet

>> You forgot to add that's in your ignorant bullshit opinion.

> And quite definitely untrue, as Buk was well known as one of the greatest poets of his time...

True, Pendragon's delusional thinking that he's in a position to judge what is and isn't poetry is absurd.

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 by: W.Dockery - Tue, 3 Oct 2023 17:45 UTC

General-Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:

>> "Michael Pendragon" wrote in message
>> news:9a488ddc-3ad3-466b-ac5b-b50856188240@googlegroups.com...
>>> On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 2:51:52 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > Yes, this is the one, from Hustler - December 1976 -
>>> > > > > > > > > > Interview "Dialog of a dirty old Man":
>>> >
>>> > https://bukowskiforum.com/threads/buk-in-mens-mags.3768/
>>> >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > Charles Bukowski stated in an interview:
>>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > "When interviewed in Hustler magazine, Bukowski
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > admitted to watching a little girl play in her yard,
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and masturbating. He goes on to say he would let an
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > eight year old girl s**k his c**k 'if she wanted
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > to',
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > and how nice it is when they put on their roller
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > skates in short skirts because you can see their
>>> > > > > > > > > > > > panties..."
>>> > > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > > Tough stuff, which Buk actually said in an interview,
>>> > > > > > > > > > not
>>> > > > > > > > > > fiction or poetry.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Yikes........
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > > Buk was an odd fellow..............
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > > Buk was an untalented, illiterate pig.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > <snip>
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Petulantly insulting your betters won't get you anywhere
>>> > > >
>>> > > > And Bukowski is obviously better, by your logic, since his poetry
>>> > > > sold
>>> > > > better than ours?
>>>
>>> Bukowski, otoh, was not a poet

>> You forgot to add that's in your ignorant bullshit opinion.

> And quite definitely untrue, as Buk was well known as one of the greatest poets of his time...

Hello Zod, again, well put.

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