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 by: weary fl...@nowhere - Sun, 2 Jan 2022 04:22 UTC

On 12/29/21 10:52 PM, RichA wrote:
> I hate people who get buyer remorse. To me, the surest sign you aren't a man is when you buy something, then have second thoughts because of your nagging wife whom you have to pass through any purchase over $50.00. In any case, shipping now has become so expensive that returns are being refunded without the product having to be shipped back to the seller!!
> The margins are being wiped out by having to pay return shipping by Amazon and Ebay, plus, if a business is honest, they won't try to re-sell the item as new, which means a further 10% discount if the item does come back. So it's actually cheaper in some instances to let people just keep the product. With Amazon, that is up to them, with Ebay, the seller is at their mercy and the buyer's. People knowing this are now asking to return certain things knowing they won't be asked to ship it back. Businesses should take the extra loss and hold firm on these parasites.
>

What about when items are defective and/or falsely described? Very Common
on Amazon and Ebay, but you are calling every such case "buyer remorse",
as if you were dumb as a journalist. I think the lowest quality consumer product
type I've bought many of are print-on-demand public domain books: this requires so
much returns/refunds for product defects to get a book that actually is complete
and readable, and often have to give up the idea of having a current reprint,
and go without or try to scrounge up an old musty original copy if possibly
available. I apologize for calling you a journalist, but I've read about supposed
"buyer remorse" in news media articles many times and it's the typical
anti-consumer slant that journalists take. Feel free to call me dumb for wanting
to pay for printed books rather than have mere files.

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 by: The Horny Goat - Mon, 3 Jan 2022 19:04 UTC

On Sat, 1 Jan 2022 20:22:53 -0800, weary flake wrote:

>On 12/29/21 10:52 PM, RichA wrote:
>> I hate people who get buyer remorse. To me, the surest sign you aren't a man is when you buy something, then have second thoughts because of your nagging wife whom you have to pass through any purchase over $50.00. In any case, shipping now has become so expensive that returns are being refunded without the product having to be shipped back to the seller!!
>> The margins are being wiped out by having to pay return shipping by Amazon and Ebay, plus, if a business is honest, they won't try to re-sell the item as new, which means a further 10% discount if the item does come back. So it's actually cheaper in some instances to let people just keep the product. With Amazon, that is up to them, with Ebay, the seller is at their mercy and the buyer's. People knowing this are now asking to return certain things knowing they won't be asked to ship it back. Businesses should take the extra loss and hold firm on these parasites.
>>
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>
>What about when items are defective and/or falsely described? Very Common
>on Amazon and Ebay, but you are calling every such case "buyer remorse",
>as if you were dumb as a journalist. I think the lowest quality consumer product
>type I've bought many of are print-on-demand public domain books: this requires so
>much returns/refunds for product defects to get a book that actually is complete
>and readable, and often have to give up the idea of having a current reprint,
>and go without or try to scrounge up an old musty original copy if possibly
>available. I apologize for calling you a journalist, but I've read about supposed
>"buyer remorse" in news media articles many times and it's the typical
>anti-consumer slant that journalists take. Feel free to call me dumb for wanting
>to pay for printed books rather than have mere files.

Sorry - I'm not the least sympathetic for Amazon as Amazon by making
'free shipping' their mantra even on small orders are savaging smaller
retailers who can't hope to match the shipping costs Amazon pays.

When US shippers can offer US$10 shipping of up to 10 lbs anywhere in
Canada when Canadian rates for Vancouver-Toronto are $20-22 for parcel
rate under 2 kgs and $40-45 for 5 kgs that's an edge no business can
ignore.

So 'so sad' from me about Amazon's shipping woes.

Justin Trudeau clearly has no idea what harm he has caused Canadian
companies trying to compete when he in the new NAFTA raised the 'de
minimus' (the amount under which Canadian shipping companies are not
required to collect Canadian taxes and duties) from $25 to $200. Trump
wanted $800 which would have eliminated our mail order business which
is about 25% of our total sales and would have been a direct subsidy
to Amazon and other major e-tailers.

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