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Subject: Re: Getting To 'The Riff Stage'
From: eagalita...@gmail.com (Curtis Eagal)
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 by: Curtis Eagal - Sun, 10 Jul 2022 23:00 UTC

On Sunday, July 10, 2022 at 1:51:11 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 7:57:28 AM UTC-7, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 1:24:19 PM UTC-4, eagali...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 6:57:17 AM UTC-7, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 6:28:20 PM UTC-4, eagali...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 7:44:26 AM UTC-7, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 5:09:35 PM UTC-4, eagali...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 10:35:05 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 9:25:13 PM UTC-7, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 9:14:41 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 5/06/2022 5:36 am, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 6:44:00 PM UTC-7, geoff wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> Do you get professional help for this ? Should be covered if you have
> > > > > > > > > > >> medical insurance.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> geoff
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You should hear the outtake where John Lennon gets the group to rally in a session by reminding them the reason they are all there is Jesus Christ, albeit in a funny voice - it was played on the Carter radio show.
> > > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ was no more that a folk-tale or fairy story. The Beatles
> > > > > > > > > > would waste their time on such idiocy as you suggest.
> > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I'm just so far ahead that it is impossible for someone like
> > > > > > > > > > yourself to appreciate anything that presents as so complex, which was
> > > > > > > > > > the trick of The Beatles, concealing their advanced intellect into
> > > > > > > > > > something accessible. This is the deconstructing of that, so it is a
> > > > > > > > > > cerebral approach to demystify the creative process. It is highly
> > > > > > > > > > disingenuous to discard a perfect solution capriciously and with malice
> > > > > > > > > > - if all we need is Love, that is not it.
> > > > > > > > > > No , it is simply that you are delusional. Harmless I guess, to anyone
> > > > > > > > > > but yourself.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > geoff
> > > > > > > > > It's already been established you will ignore whatever they said that is not to your liking, and substitute your own prejudices without concern for rational sense.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John couldn't resist doing a cartoon of a pope who had died banging on Heaven's Gate, shouting, "But I'm The Pope I Tell You!"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I found my notes on that outtake, so I can quote it:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John Lennon: "Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour...
> > > > > > > > > He's the reason we're all here;
> > > > > > > > > There's more of them than there are of us -
> > > > > > > > > That's why there's so few of us left!"
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That's referencing the Great Harvest brought in by the few laborers, which The Beatles probably rightly perceived themselves as being, a uniquely Christian concept.
> > > > > > > > You get one part of a song where John was playing 'anything can be on the list' and said so, and want that to color everything before and after, which is the sort of indoctrination false religious institutions have been guilty of. Since there are paranormal things that cannot be explained, it is ridiculous to expend effort arguing over the unknowable as if it could be determined without prophecy being fulfilled, taking that off the table at the outset.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > People who think Man invented God using The Bible have not read those texts, which show people being fostered into belief through a series of events that could not be explained any other way; it was likely a battle between benevolent and malevolent spiritual forces, who could demonstrate their respective realities in various ways, to enlighten and deceive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John's first press release for his band was a take-off on Revelation. There was a cartoon of Christ on the Cross with bedroom slippers beneath.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A letter reproduced in one book about the exchange with Stuart Sutcliffe, apparently when he wrote about memories of a previous incarnation as Jesus, there is the scribbled comment, "Jesus is a something, anyway."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When Stuart suffered his untimely death, there was a little drawing made (perhaps by Klaus Voormann) depicting Sutcliffe with the wings of an angel, ready to take him to Heaven. The harmonica parts in both versions of "Love Me Do" feature variations of a subliminal message where it is fancifully conveyed that Christ Himself did so.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The guitar part in the middle of "Twist And Shout," before the vocal ascent, seems like mere vamping, yet repeats to the receptive ear,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 'Flew -
> > > > > > > > Before their eyes -
> > > > > > > > To Heaven'
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One could listen to the orchestrated version of "Eleanor Rigby" with no vocals, and still have a complete theme suggested through a series of integrated familiar phrases, so common in their colloquialism as to be nearly cliche - and yet the awareness of it introduces a new dimension that has another sort of gratification without taking anything away, or preventing the initially-enjoyed experience.
> > > > > > > John Lennon also role-played Judas Iscariot in "Run For Your Life," so it was not a personal admission of being a "wicked guy" in real life: and for the "Rubber Soul" back cover, the only full-body image was George Harrison dressed as a cowboy gunslinger, as the visual representation of Judas, ready to strike with his weapon of choice. The front cover suggests omniscient Christ with His main three Apostles, Simon, James and John.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lennon said he would play the last Beatles album to know where he left off to decide how to proceed into the next project sessions - there is a regression, but how far back in the story to jump was a critical decision.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The fantastic Klaus Voormann cover artwork for "REVOLVER" provides the answer (to the real weapon) in the peculiar way strands of hair were ink-drawn at the top of the Harrison iconic head: it must be viewed in a mirror, where the reflection reads a stylized letter 'K,' with an adjacent capital 'I,' then the curving strand merged with the small hand comprises letter 'S'; another strand arising to intertwine below John's ear provides the final letter 'S'; the small hand is aligned with spaghetti-like hair being extruded from the impression of a handgun barrel; and beneath a small photo of Paul seems to be blowing a piccolo like a trumpeting angel in Michelangelo's "Last Judgment" fresco.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The "Beatles For Sale" review posed a paradox: Lennon was supposedly influenced by Bob Dylan to be more introspective, as though "I'm A Loser" was autobiographical; yet he also wrote "Eight Days A Week," with basic lyrics taken as somewhat insipid. Paul McCartney would say, "All our songs are from our imagination," but George Martin caught a line in "Norwegian Wood" suggesting marital problems, before it was admitted to be about a secret affair. Key lyrics in "I'm A Loser" concern being upset about someone who should never have been 'Crossed,' weeping sorrowfully. The word 'love' is not merely being extended in "Eight Days A Week," but assists the suggestion of, 'I love [two missing words] ABOVE YOU!' Each song has its own evolution from some thought, choosing a stylistic version, and ultimately typically completing an initial recording with overdubs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > McCartney has said he and Lennon never got to the bottom of each others' souls, but were more like 'army buddies.'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christian eschatology was evident in Lennon's "Bring On The Lucie," with lyrics like, "Six-Six-Six is your name"
> > > > > > Yeah, he sings that in "Nring On The Lucie." What does he mean? Who's he singing to? And WTF is "The Licie"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Free the people" from WHAT? WHICH killing is he telling some mysterious being to stop?
> > > > > I can only think of the song from Pepper for Lucie, and if you notice the acronym of that song is actually LITSWD, which when extracting the psychedelic nickname leaves an anagram for 'WIT' - so it could be a Hippie joke on the term for being ascerbic, 'acid wit.' The rhymes in Bring On The Lucie are about slipping down a hill on the blood of people you killed, while you still have to swallow your pill.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is broader than what is done in this life, about karmic baggage from past lives in violent eras being carried over into the modern era unless we break the chain. It seems similar to Harrison's songs about burning karmic ribbons.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your time is up, you'd better know it
> > > > > But maybe you don't read the signs
> > > > >
> > > > > I go through some of these signs in Book 1 of my series, "A Temple Of Many Mansions," but continually find more. For John at that point past The Beatles, he had experienced strange phenomena along with the general public, most peculiarly from his point of view. When they returned to Hamburg, east of Liverpool, the Garabandal (south of Liverpool on the Spanish coast) apparitions started on a birthday of McCartney's; there were synchronicities with milestones in their development and key moments in the massive series of apparitions (the girls started walking backwards in unison, fast over rocky hills, on a 5 August pre-anniversary of the REVOLVER release).
> > > > >
> > > > > Once they started making records, only Conchita of the four girls still had visions, which climaxed in 1965, ending during the final mixes for "Rubber Soul."
> > > > >
> > > > > Also when Ringo first performed on British soil as a Beatle he was not official, but replacing an ill Pete Best: that evening was the Aquarius Stellium, with the major planets grouped during a total solar eclipse.
> > > > >
> > > > > When they reached the Nativity stage in their subliminal revival, the protracted Marian apparitions at Zeitoun commenced.
> > > > >
> > > > > Knowing about The Beatles as musical group is not the same as being conveyed via tandem-rotor reconditioned military helicopter to perform half an hour, causing fainting and emotional breakdowns among a crowd of over fifty thousand shrieking fans. From the inside of that cultural cyclone one could not help but consider what it portended, particularly if one knew it resulted from triggering an astral-subliminal transference reaction.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Lennon admitted the "newspaper taxis" from the 1967 track was from Paul McCartney. John thought Paul put the group on the spot by talking about his drug use with a reporter, spinning it as being the reporter's responsibility whether it would be printed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I found a John Lennon interview with Jann Wenner from December 1970, where he explains what he was thinking when he wrote the song "God."
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.johnlennon.com/music/interviews/rolling-stone-interview-1970/
> > > > >
> > > > > <<
> > > > >
> > > > > How did you put together that litany in “God”?
> > > > >
> > > > > What’s “litany?”
> > > > >
> > > > > “I don’t believe in magic,” that series of statements.
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, like a lot of the words, it just came out of me mouth. “God” was put together from three songs almost. I had the idea that “God is the concept by which we measure pain,” so that when you have a word like that, you just sit down and sing the first tune that comes into your head and the tune is simple, because I like that kind of music and then I just rolled into it. It was just going on in my head and I got by the first three or four, the rest just came out. Whatever came out.
> > > > >
> > > > > When did you know that you were going to be working towards “I don’t believe in Beatles”?
> > > > >
> > > > > I don’t know when I realized that I was putting down all these things I didn’t believe in. So I could have gone on, it was like a Christmas card list: where do I end? Churchill? Hoover? I thought I had to stop.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yoko: He was going to have a do it yourself type of thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > John: Yes, I was going to leave a gap, and just fill in your own words: whoever you don’t believe in. It had just got out of hand, and Beatles was the final thing because I no longer believe in myth, and Beatles is another myth.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don’t believe in it. The dream is over. I’m not just talking about the Beatles, I’m talking about the generation thing. It’s over, and we gotta – I have to personally – get down to so-called reality.
> > > > >
> > > > > When did you become aware that that song would be the one that is played the most?
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn’t know that. I don’t know. I’ll be able to tell in a week or so what’s going on, because they [the radio] started off playing “Look At Me” because it was easy, and they probably thought it was the Beatles or something. So I don’t know if that is the one. Well, that’s the one; “God” and “Working Class Hero” probably are the best whatevers – sort of ideas or feelings – on the record.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why did you choose or refer to Zimmerman, not Dylan.
> > > > >
> > > > > Because Dylan is bullshit. Zimmerman is his name. You see, I don’t believe in Dylan and I don’t believe in Tom Jones, either in that way. Zimmerman is his name. My name isn’t John Beatle. It’s John Lennon. Just like that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why did you tag that cut at the end with “Mummy’s Dead”?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because that’s what’s happened. All these songs just came out of me. I didn’t sit down to think, “I’m going to write about Mother” or I didn’t sit down to think “I’m going to write about this, that or the other.” They all came out, like all the best work that anybody ever does. Whether it is an article or what, it’s just the best ones that come out, and all these came out, because I had time. If you are on holiday or in therapy, wherever you are, if you do spend time . . . like in India I wrote the last batch of best songs, like “I’m So Tired” and “Yer Blues.” They’re pretty realistic, they were about me. They always struck me as – what is the word? Funny? Ironic? – that I was writing them supposedly in the presence of guru and meditating so many hours a day, writing “I’m So Tired” and songs of such pain as “Yer Blues” which I meant. I was right in the Maharishi’s camp writing “I wanna die . . . ”
> > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > John was trying to work through personal issues after The Beatles, since it apparently did not produce the desired effect. McCartney was quoted as saying they all thought when they finished they would ascend on a cloud and receive "envelopes with our stuff in it." There was a lot of artifice in The Beatles' manufactured dream, and such pretense was no longer something Lennon was willing to embody.
> > > > >
> > > > > My subliminal analysis of the opening piano chords of "Imagine" has a bleak message that only humans can make hopeful: being alone here on planet Earth,
> > > > >
> > > > > "...Until -
> > > > > FOREVER"
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps he realized the Kingdom Jesus spoke of is within our grasp, if we stop expecting the Master to return, and proactively discover Salvation is a do-it-yourself process.
> > > > >
> > > > > But for the rooftop in early 1969, John singing gibberish in "Don't Let Me Down" appears to be reverse-singing, I heard it backwards as a confirmation the Christian subtext is out-of-sequence - the song thematically belonged on Pepper, but the devotion for Yoko overlapped nicely. Like George Harrison said, The Beatles was like being in a box. The electric guitar flourish Harrison provided at the end of "Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby" is unique among versions of the tune, conceptually tying together the entire album concept by subliminally invoking the curtain found ripped in the Temple, which had been stitched together much earlier by Christ's Mother, The Virgin Maid.
> > > > You think John's "Lucie" is Lucy in the Sky. Hmm.
> > > >
> > > > "Freda People" is obviously a "cutely" misspelled "Free the people" though I still don't know which people he's talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Could "Lucie" be a similarly cute misspelling of "loosie," meaning a loose cigarette?
> > > Although the title is "Bring On The Lucie" that is not in the lyrics, while the subtitle (Freda Peeple) is. It seems like a fictitious activist name, 'Frieda Peeple,' soundalike with 'Free The People' of course.
> > >
> > > So there is no given context for the strange actual title, but we had the overt cigarette lyrics in "I'm So Tired."
> > >
> > > I would compare it with "Serve Yourself," Lennon'ponse to Dylan's "Serve Somebody": whether you believe in devils or saints, you will end up serving either the higher or lower powers, and should assume that personal responsibility.
> > >
> > > One should not underestimate the anti-war movemelnt that had developed against Vietnam, the idea of sending youth to kill for whatever motives was an odious concept to the counterculture, and Lennon was addressing that in his music more after The Beatles, because the group as a whole projected more mainstream standards.
> >
> > I just found out that "Lucy" is a slang term for LSD! Problem solved!
> >
> > And the slang came from Lucy in the Sky, no less.
> That doesn't explain why Julian Lennon confirms it was his original title for a drawing of his classmate, a very real person named Lucy, nor why they would use the title intact while attempting to compose in two directions, backwards and forwards. So my remark about the acrostic anagram could not have been by deliberate design, only by serendipity.
>
> The musical counterculture generally did not produce a plethora of masterpieces like Sgt Pepper. Many of the Beatle songs are rather basic in their use of instruments to subliminal effect, "Strawberry Fields Forever" was a more complex symphonic approach, where the phrases build subthemes towards the ultimate culmination - yet Lennon would say he could have improved all of his songs, while boasting of inventing the heavy metal genre with "Ticket To Ride." When asked about a Beatles reunion and overtly restating it as a potential rehash of events in the life of Christ, John was being pragmatic regarding what that would entail in ways a fan cannot fathom. McCartney said John, not Yoko, broke up the group, at the time when he was suggesting a Square One reboot, making unannounced appearances. Lennon realized when a story is over, you ought to stop telling it.
>
> While Dylan's "Serve Somebody" is straightforward gospel territory, Lennon's "Serve Yourself" has issues that are not as mainstream.
>
> <<
> You say you found Jesus Christ;
> He's the only one.
> You say you've found Buddha,
> Sittin' in the sun.
> You say you found Mohammed,
> Facin' to the East.
> You say you found Krishna,
> Dancin' in the streets.
> Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew... >>
>
> He was in a perfect position to know what was missing, since he was a major part of providing it: as an architect of the conceptual Temple, he knew no one was 'entering' it through acknowledgment.
>
> <<
> Well you may believe in devils, and you may believe in lords,
> But if you don't go out and serve yourself, lad, ain't no room service here.
> It's still the same old story,
> A bloody Holy War,
> A fight for love and glory.
> Ain't gonna study war no more.
> A fight for God and country.
> We're gonna set you free,
> We'll put you back in the Stone Age,
> If you won't be like me, get it?
> You got to serve yourself,
> Ain't nobody gonna do for you... >>
>
> What was expected from old is extremely radical if experienced, so 'nothing new' is a dubious idea. The confusing mix of patriotism, military power, religious faith, pacifism, xenophobia, etc, intrigued Lennon, without any easy resolution. George Harrison described The Beatles as a positive fantasy alternative to the darker energies of physical reality.
>
> <<
> Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew,
> And it's your goddamn mother you dirty little git, now.
> Get in there and wash yer ears! >>
>
> It is that last line about washing ears that gets at the underlying hostility of the treatment: John could hear how well he accomplished each of his musical attempts to make his 'guitar talk' or whatever, never with the intention of walking people through things clearly in impotent defeat.
>
> With the sharp tones of the sitar, John instructed George as a neophyte player to perform the solo for "Norwegian Wood" so as to follow two thought-paths: one starts,
>
> 'Saint - Peter would say...';
>
> and the other sounds like it begins,
>
> 'When - I got married...'
>
> For Chuck Berry's "Rock And Roll Music," they stayed close to the original arrangement, only requiring the opening and closing passages to convey they meant the Rock sealing the Tomb to Roll away: the opening guitar lick suggests,
>
> 'LIGHTNING HIT IT!'
>
> They took a loosely-strummed guitar bit from the 1957 version for the convulsive ending on piano implying,
>
> 'Lightning Hit!'
>
> Percussion played a significant role in the "Beatle For Sale" tracks - the ending of "No Reply" suggests,
>
> 'Woken from
> DEATH'
>
> There is the African drum to produce a deep sound for the word 'GLOW'; and the timpani is double-struck, suggesting the word 'BOULDER.' Ringo Starr slapped his knees for subtle percussion on "I'll Follow The Sun." Paul's chauffeur provided the title for "Eight Days A Week," which Lennon took over in a double-tracked lead vocal, alternating as duet with Paul, including block harmonies with George; the fade-in could have been a Berry homage; the Eighth Day in scripture is associated with end-times ('a time of not counting time').
>
> In the melancholy ballad "I Don't Want To Spoil The Party," Lennon brings up the 'drink or two' Jesus might have imbibed while on the Cross, with the guitar work telling the tale of the Holy Shroud. The opening and closing riffs are nearly the same (it is not simply a one-note difference), but the first iteration is more sprightly -
>
> 'They -
> Wrapped Him UP -
> In a big
> PIECE
> Of SHROUD
> Cloth'
>
> To the dismay of fans, The Beatles did not worship themselves in narcissistic idolatry, but were instead working out how to affect subtle shifts in tense and situation through musical arrangement. What Lennon let slip to Maureen Cleave, his fear that the transference would be complete, and religious faith suffer in the wake of their secular subterfuge, still appears an esoteric reality, with staunch resistance to ever becoming consciously aware of the obvious 'hidden theme.' Society would likely prefer to evade the poignancy of their role-playing the Christian story, and ad-libbed theological commentaries.
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> Lennon's impression from "The Passover Plot" book, that the disciples were inadequate to their daunting task, was fundamental to the format of the "Rubber Soul" album. The song "Wait," which had been refurbished from the previous sessions, had some volume-pedal guitar overdubs for completion in the later phase. Jesus had challenged Satan in the body of Judas Iscariot to enact the betrayal quickly: Emperor Tiberias (grandfather of Pontius Pilate's wife Procla) was ill, and had summoned the healer from Judea - it was only with the help of the Apostles in prayer that the Cup could pass. But the core three Apostles (Simon, James and John) all succumb to sleep instead. The song corresponds to the Zodiac sign Water-Bearer Aquarius, so the overdubbed bits (excluding the variation in the coda) simultaneously sound like,
>
> 'Drowsy'
>
> and
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> 'Water'
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> The Beach Boys had done "In My Room" in homage to "There's A Place" (using the title as opening lyrics) before the band was popular in the US; Ed Sullivan only booked them for his show because he witnessed the uproar they caused at an airport. The Byrds had a scriptural source for "Turn Turn Turn!" and Harrison dubbed them 'The American Beatles'; their jangly guitar style on "Bells of Rhymney" influenced the playing on "If I Needed Someone."
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> A song by The Rolling Stones that The Beatles said they wish they had written was "Satisfaction" from 1965. I hear the riff there, with the novelty of fuzz guitar, as saying
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> 'BROKE BREAD -
> For the
> NEW
> Communion'
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> When The Beatles got to that point, it seems to emerge in the riff for "I Want To Tell You," commencing like,
>
> 'He broke the bread,
> And said, -...'
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> A musicologist compared a note sequence in "All You Need Is Love" to the vocalization of "Three Blind Mice," which is fair game, except there is a better transcription in the musical context.

There are quasi inside-jokes that take time to surface - this morning the cover of "The Book of Beatles" by Josef R Winkler, published in 1951, was mentioned on a radio show as having a Beatle-relevant lettering font.

https://www.abebooks.com/Book-Beetles-Winkler-J.R-Spring-Books/30975858735/bd

Notice the word "BEETLES" on the cover is written in precisely the same font used in 1964 for the cover of the "A Hard Day's Night" album.

Lennon might have mocked Dylan for a name-change, yet never expressed outrage the Alice stories were not written by Charles L Dodgson. And he came up with some interesting alternate names himself, starting from Long John.

Reviewing album release date charts, the timing of "Help!" on 6 August 1965 matched the first half of V.24 -

Reign and law elevated under Venus
Saturn will have dominion over Jupiter

On that day, Venus was grouped with Ouranos and Pluto around 15 degrees Virgo, in opposition with Saturn near 16 degrees Pisces; Jupiter was further on the lunar aspect course list past 23.5 degrees Gemini. Third line returns to I.23 with 'Dawn Imitated.' This is probably too esoteric to have been considered in 1965.

The 24 June 2022 Supreme Court decision was delivered the day before the feast day for Saint Eurosia, who escaped an arranged marriage by hiding in a cave near the Pyrenees; IV.70 and II.17 in combination present a controversial document made official temporally contiguous with the 25 June Pyrenees date as a late-stage precursor to a fire-and-flood cataclysm. Consecutive lunar conjunctions with Saturn and Vesta following the 13 July 2022 Full Buck Moon (a Supermoon on the day of perigee) are outlined for explosive onset and shaky resolution, with the deluge portion commencing before the fire is extinguished. The current ominous Urn configuration of planets will degrade in August 2022. The second half of V.24 -

Law and reign through the 'Dawn Imitated'
The worst will be endured by those passing Saturn

Ellen Degeneres in bringing up IV.31 hit upon a fine point -

The Moon in fullness at night over the high mountain

It means nothing without proper cross-referencing: take it for Geneva (IX.44) - so that 'Saturnin' night (16 July, feast day for Saint Domnio of Lombardy) there is a false Midheaven at the Eleventh House cusp; and when the Moon reaches it, a transitory Grand Trine with Venus at one point, and Vertex-Fortune at another briefly. Since Venus conjoined the Node 10 August 1945 in the aftermath of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, it became mystical 'New Babylon,' which would be 'remembered before God' at the critical time.

There are not many scenarios where a flame plume can surpass the stratosphere (VI.70), with chunks of 'hail' each weighing one hundred pounds falling on a populace. That is clearly not a prediction of normal hail.

The astronomical underpinnings of V.24, linking the 1965 era with our further modern period, are evidence the seer was aware of the esoteric substance on a much deeper level than demonstrable in I.14 (number matching the fourteen-song quota for albums), where the reception of 'divine utterances' by idiomatically 'madcap jesters' had an ambiguous tone.

For working-class songs, anthems and standards,
Captives of Princes and Lords in prisons;
In the future such by madcap jesters
Will be received as divine orations

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