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Subject: Re: Piccolo Trumpet - Penny Lane
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 by: Curtis Eagal - Wed, 15 Feb 2023 15:46 UTC

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:17:52 PM UTC-8, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 10:31:40 AM UTC-8, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 12:41:56 PM UTC-8, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 2:25:42 PM UTC-8, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 6:36:25 PM UTC-8, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 4:23:42 PM UTC-8, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 12:38:05 PM UTC-8, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 1:55:20 PM UTC-8, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:31:21 AM UTC-8, Curtis Eagal wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:20:53 AM UTC-8, RJKe...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 8:21:19 PM UTC-5, super70s wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On 2023-01-28 04:14:37 +0000, Curtis Eagal said:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, January 27, 2023 at 4:19:05 AM UTC-8, Blueshirt wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Curtis Eagal wrote:>> > The Moon will encounter the Node 28 January
> > > > > > > > > > > >> 2023 4:54 pm CET, before> > reaching its conjunct with Ouranos.
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Your anus.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You're not the first to respond with that incredible witticism, which
> > > > > > > > > > > > is why I use the Greek version, which isn't pronounced like the English
> > > > > > > > > > > > Uranus - but you got there anyway.
> > > > > > > > > > > Think they'll find Klingons on Uranus?
> > > > > > > > > > This might require a mind meld..
> > > > > > > > > That was tried in the "Spectre Of The Gun" episode of the original Star Trek tv series: the aliens had put crew members into a re-enactment of the shootout at OK Corral as the losing side; when a sedative Dr McCoy developed from local herbs failed to produce an effect, Mr Spock reasoned that nothing they were experiencing was real - and neither would the bullets be when they were put into the gunfight. The doctor gave the opinion the human brain was incapable of negating what seemed to be real bullets by any deductive process: so Captain Kirk ordered Spock to mind-meld with each of them so they could all acquire the protection of the stronger Vulcan trust in logic, however absurd its conclusions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Nephew Of Blood Into The Gallic King's Night Of Three And Six
> > > > > > > > > [8 February 2023 7:40 pm CET / 1:40 pm EST]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The early February hagiology has confluences with the precursors for the impending cataclysm, providing a deciphering key to combine with the judicial astrology. Some of this material is supplemental to the impending cataclysm, which is not an end point, but will have repercussions splintering into myriad yet-unexplored quatrain lines. Much of the basic Nephew premise was developed decades ago, and now its fulfillment can be acknowledged contemporary to the events themselves.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Since the French seer has built his verses with intrinsic and intersecting messages, disjointed as if emerged from a shredder, it sometimes appears necessary to hopscotch through the entire ten Centuries of quatrains to comprehend the esoteric context of a single incident, even without obvious clues for doing so. January 2023 precursors were addressed in prior posts, extending back to the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse.
> > > > > > > > > The two powerful quakes striking Turkey and Syria about nine hours apart 6 February 2023, with building collapses and massive fatalities, both have charts with notable configurations.
> > > > > > > > > The first quake with magnitude 7.8 occurring at 4:17 am local time arrived about five minutes after a prominent Grand Square formation: Pallas around 11 degrees Cancer; Juno past 11 degrees Aries; the East Point around 11 degrees Capricorn; and the Midheaven point past 12 degrees Libra.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The chart for the second quake of 7.5 magnitude at 1:25 pm local time presented a Venusian Grand Trine: Venus at 12 degrees 9 minutes Pisces; Pallas around 11 degrees Cancer; and the Vertex at 11.5 degrees Scorpio (near the South Node).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Two nephews of Saint Patrick have the 6 February feast, Mun and Melchu, which could collectively present the 'Great Nephew' of II.92, signifying the time for a massive taking of souls.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Gaul date for X.58 corresponds with Saint Chrysolius having a 7 February feast: an Armenian missionary, he became bishop in northeastern Gaul near Flanders; in 303, for refusing to sacrifice to pagan idols, imperial Romans beat him in the street, then sliced off the top of his head - Chrysolius retrieved his own severed skull fragment and walked away to die. His relics are venerated in Bruges.
> > > > > > > > > The brutal beating of Saint Chrysolius could be reconstructed with seven using a club in VI.82, where the 'Cyphe' means the Cup, Chalice or Goblet of divine wrath. His location of Flanders is given in III.17, where the Aventine Hill of Rome will appear with a reddish glow.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mont Auentine bruler nuit sera vu
> > > > > > > > > Le ciel obscur tout a coup en Flanders
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [III.17]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Rome's Aventine Hill takes on a fiery glow at night
> > > > > > > > > The sky suddenly darkens in Flanders
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The reddish light originates elsewhere, Rome is the focus for the papal sideline.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Par les deserts de lieu libre et farouche
> > > > > > > > > Viendra errer neveu du grand Pontife
> > > > > > > > > Assome a sept avec lourde souche
> > > > > > > > > Par ceux qu'apres occuperont le Cyphe
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [VI.82]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Through the deserts for the free and wild location
> > > > > > > > > Will come to wander the Nephew, toward great Pontiff malice;
> > > > > > > > > Felled by the Seventh Vessel with the Lourdes bludgeon,
> > > > > > > > > Through those who would later come to occupy the Chalice
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A cycle of quatrains seems to outline the events of the consecutive days from 6 to 8 February 2023 through consistently intersecting mini-scenarios. The Turkey-Syria location has a border crossing whose name translates as 'Gate of the Winds' for the first line's wilderness desert for the Nephew to wander, meaning the two steps of the massive quakes; this ultimately involves Francis I somehow.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The second portion is overtly Apocalyptic, inferring the Seventh Bowl, or Goblet of the 'Cyphe.' The word 'lourde' for 'heavy' is a hint for the further day designated for the 11 February Our Lady of Lourdes 1858 Marian apparitions remembrance (the Lady honored through force of terror in I.94), however from the 6 January 2023 Nephew temporal perspective.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Les deux neveux en divers lieux nourris...
> > > > > > > > > Viendront si haut eleves enguerris
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [III.29]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The two Nephews brought up in diverse places...
> > > > > > > > > Their art of warfare will have become elevated so high
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The nephew theme also appears in III.29, where it is acknowledged as two events in different places, and the associated elevated warfare theme recalls the recent Chinese spy balloon incident; in IV.73 the great nephew could mark the test of a pact, perhaps the sham peace of VI.22.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Le neveu grand par force prouvera
> > > > > > > > > La pache fait du coeur pusillanime
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [IV.73]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Great Nephew by force will test
> > > > > > > > > The pact made with pusillanimous heart
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This pact may also appear in VI.22.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dedans la terre du grand temple celique
> > > > > > > > > Neveu a Londres par paix feinte meurtri
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [VI.22]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Within the territory of the great celestial temple
> > > > > > > > > Nephew at London murders through sham peace
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is not the 6 February 2023 situation, but a later occurrence.
> > > > > > > > > There are two Nephews in VIII.43 - one of blood, another of fear: the first occupies the realm through two 'bastard things,' the strong quakes a few hours apart; the second, through the fear incident, folds his standard. The second Nephew suggests 15 February 2023 via Saint Sigfrid, originally from Glastonbury: circa 1045 while on a mission at Vaexjoe, Sweden, his three nephews, Saints Winaman, Unaman and Sunaman were beheaded by pagan raiders. Sigfrid retrieved their severed heads, and claimed they could speak in death, inducing fear in the murderers. The chronology is for a modern event involving 'coups et dards.'
> > > > > > > > > Par le decide de deux choses batards
> > > > > > > > > Neveu du sang occupera le regne
> > > > > > > > > Dedans lectoyre seront les coups et dards
> > > > > > > > > Neveu par peur pliera l'enseigne
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [VIII.43]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Through the collapse from two things bastard,
> > > > > > > > > The Nephew of Blood will occupy the Manor;
> > > > > > > > > The Lecture will include coups and the dastard,
> > > > > > > > > The Nephew through Fear will unfurl his own banner
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The first portion explains how the two massive quakes together constitute the Nephew of Blood, which is a consuming disaster with thousands of casualties in the Turkey-Syria region. The third line predicts a Lecturing regarding 'coups' which foreshadows the theorized second US coup.. The last line has a different Nephew, emerging through the terrifying cataclysmic event, presumably for 15 February 2023, with a London association.
> > > > > > > > > A nephew also in VIII.32, introducing the notion of a murder when Venus is 'making a vow,' which is being interpreted as a Grand Trine indication.
> > > > > > > > > Garde-toi Roi Gaulois de ton neveu
> > > > > > > > > Qui fera tant que ton unique fils
> > > > > > > > > Sera meurtri a Venus faisant voeu
> > > > > > > > > Accompagne de nuit que trois et six
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [VIII.32]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Guard yourself, Gallic King, from your devastating Nephew
> > > > > > > > > Who will do so much that your unique son exiled to the sticks
> > > > > > > > > Will be murdered at Venus pledging a vow so untrue,
> > > > > > > > > Accompanied by the night for transition from three and six
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Another saintly personage likely designated for 7 February 2023 is Richard of Lucca, a prince of the West Saxons who was accorded the title 'King of the English' - taking his family on a pilgrimage in 720, he became ill and died in Lucca, Italy. Saint 'King Richard' could be the High-Born figure of II.92, from which the striking occurs that results in the golden fire of the first line.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So Richard is the Gallic King of VIII.32, for the day after the Nephew caused the double-quake: the 'unique son' is therefore the subject of the following day, namely Saint Honoratus of 8 February, Milan bishop who perished in exile. The ominous Lombardy date for V.42 and VI.16 appears to be 8 February 2023, referring to the feast of Saint Honoratus: when he was elected bishop of Milan in 567, the Arians disputed the result; the Lombard invasion compounded his problems, forcing him into exile, where he died in 570. This information added into the transition as slang assisted the rhyme with 'six.'
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The enigmatic final line has a simple solution, since in Aries and Pisces there is currently a grouping of six celestial bodies: Venus, Neptune and Vesta in Pisces; and Jupiter, Juno and Chiron (the latter two near conjunct) in Aries. When Vesta enters Aries, commencing her reign 8 February 2023 5:44 am CET, the change will make this no longer the case, with four bodies in Aries and two in Pisces for the sum of six. This Vestal Reign continues until the solar progression into Pisces 18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET, by which time Vesta will be at 4 degrees 44 minutes Aries. So 7 February 2023 is the 'night of three and six' prior to the fateful Venusian vow.
> > > > > > > > > The 8 February 2023 timing complies as the likely genuine date for the Geneva cataclysm, using CET:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 6:23 pm - Saturn at the Descendant, commencing the Saturnin phase;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 6:40 pm - Lunar Grand Trine with Midheaven, including Mercury about four degrees off;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 7:40 pm - Grand Trine with Ceres-Midheaven-Fortune from approximately 6.5 to 8 degrees in air signs - this could be the 'vow' made by Venus as she approaches the Ecliptic (VIII.32), a debasing condition for the evening star;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 8:05 pm - Venus at the Descendant;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 8:48 pm - Neptune at the Descendant, with the Moon rising simultaneously at the Ascendant due to their impending opposition - this is the most probable meaning for Corinth and Ephesus being in perplexity from III.3;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 9:23 pm - Vesta at the Descendant with the Vertex, concurrent with Saturn conjoined by the Part of Fortune;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 9:39 pm - Neptune lunar opposition.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The critical time in this schedule should be the short-lived Grand Trine with Ceres -
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > << 8 February 2023 7:40 pm CET / 1:40 pm EST / 10:40 am PST >>
> > > > > > > > > The Garabandal Miracle should first be seen 12 February 2023 on the Rhodes date from V.16 via Saint Meletius.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...Alors qu'a Rhodes paraitra dur espectre
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ...While at Rhodes there will appear a lasting Phantom
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > > > Cause aviendra bien stupende et mirande
> > > > > > > > > Bien peu apres la terre tremblera
> > > > > > > > > A quite stupendous and marvelous Sign will manifest
> > > > > > > > > Quite soon after the world will have trembled
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [I.46]
> > > > > > > > I posted the VI.22 London line a few hours before the secret visit of the Ukrainian president to London was reported; London there was considered a literal location without any hagiological correspondence.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A subtle instance for the first Nephew (meaning the 6 February 2023 sibling-quakes) could be in the latter portion of IV.95 -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Les deux Vestales contre rebelleront
> > > > > > > > Victor puine en Armonique terre
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The two Vestals in opposition will rebel together
> > > > > > > > Victor the younger sibling of the Brittany time-territory
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The context suggests looking for the opposition between Mercury in Virgo and Vesta in Pisces on 6 August 2022: the Vesta-Mercury opposition there appears to rebel against the more formidable Lunar Grand Trine with Venus and Neptune in the water signs, line of opposition slashing through the equilateral triangle.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The final line shifts to 8 February 2023 by inferring Saints Jacut and Guethenoc, driven to Brittany by a Saxon invasion circa 5th century, as a general interval - so the two quakes of 6 February 2023 collectively termed the Nephew, 'coincidentally' for two nephews of Saint Patrick, could be the respective subjects. The stronger initial quake had an innocuous chart emerging from a Grand Square situation: and the next-born sibling quake had a prominent Grand Trine, thus strength by magnitude was not the measure for the victory, but the prominence of signs in the post-mortem chart.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Both IV.95 lines refer to particular instances of a Grand Trine appearing in respective charts as an esoterically hidden unifying theme.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This theme is revisited in the final line of VI.70 -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Son bruit et los les cieux surpassera
> > > > > > > > Et du seul titre Victeur fort contente
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Its noise and light will surpass the heavens
> > > > > > > > And with the sole title Victor quite content
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Whatever Grand Trine appears as the fateful Venusian vow should trigger a cataclysm much more powerful than the 7.5 quake at the Turkey-Syria border (as the Gate for the wild and free winds), suggesting the comparison would be absurd, since the stratosphere itself could be surpassed by the effects, according to VI.70.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The 'Mansol' of VIII.34 (where there is unequivocally 'death and tomb') invokes 'Mausole' for the famous Saint-Paul French asylum (where Vincent van Gogh self-admitted), but cross-literates to Man-Sol, a human-solar creation, consistent with 'Child found fire' in IX.9, and the concept in IV.58 -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Soleil ardent dans le gosier coller
> > > > > > > > De sang humain arroser terre Etrusque
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The burning Sun down the throat to be swallowed
> > > > > > > > With human blood Etruscan soil to be washed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The funeral for Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI was on 5 January 2023, feast for Saint Paula of Tuscany.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Victor concept being equated with the prominent appearance of a Grand Trine in the post-mortem chart allows the relevant focus to be placed on such configurations: Venus herself may not need to be involved, but should be conspicuously featured.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The night of three and six from VIII.32 was a dramatic opening to the 8 to 18 February 2023 Vestal Reign, satisfying X.6 for the entire interval in expectation of 'sepulchral fire'; the 'Lourdes bludgeon' of VI.82 should shift attention to 11 February 2023. The Garabandal Miracle could be seen the following day for the V.16 Rhodes connection, with the trembling still ongoing further for the several nights stipulation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Another Neptune lunar aspect beyond the opposition would be required for the perplexity of III.3.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A role for Saturn is specified in converting gold to sword for IX.44.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And the principal celestial bodies crossing the Nadir unseen is suggested by V.65, referring to Vesta as the lady on coals not because she is last in the sequence, but the reigning Queen.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For Geneva on 11 February 2023, using CET:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 12:50 am - Solar Nadir;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 12:57 am - Solar-Lunar Grand Trine with the Vertex - this should be the 'Gold' triangular form;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1:10 am - Saturnin Nadir, commencing the ominous transitional Saturnin interval;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2:30 am - Venusian Nadir;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2:45 am - Grand Trine of Lilith-Ascendant-Fortune, with Fortune anchored about two degrees beyond Vesta in Aries - this should be the 'Sword' triangle formed by those occupying the Chalice (VI.82), and the vow made by Venus (VIII.32), thus likely onset of the cataclysm -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > << 11 February 2023 2:45 am CET / 10 February 2023 8:45 pm EST / 5:45 pm PST >>;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2:50 am - Neptunian Nadir - this is not the time for the III.3 perplexity, and further crossings at the Nadir appear relatively inconsequential;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 4:38 am - Solar-Lunar trine - possibly the Sun and Moon of V.66;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 8:03 am - Neptune lunar quincunx - this should be the III.3 perplexity, an aspect at the oblique 150-degree angle, simultaneous with Saturn rising for Geneva.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The condition of 'Corinth, Ephesus then in perplexity' mentioned after the III.3 line about the sensation of trembling felt as it to the depths of Asia is suggestive of an aftermath, albeit there is some ambiguity.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Saturnin Nadir time separates the two Grand Trines, with the latter being indicated for off-the-scale explosive potential and lethality, attributable to Venus debased at the Nadir.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > '...Then They Say That He Ascended,
> > > > > > > > And Sits
> > > > > > > > At The Right Hand Of The Trinity...'
> > > > > > > The other mention of 'Cyphe' for Chalice in VI.89 has a line twisting the Milk and Honey posthumous album title prediction in I.57, explained below.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A Marian date also seemed hinted in V.18 as the Vitrix, despite the near-anagram Vertex being involved in the former 'Golden' or relatively safe Grand Trine, before the 'Sword' of the Venusian Nadir Grand Trine specimen.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > De Sol et Lune sont les luisants metaux
> > > > > > > Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With Sun and Moon are the glittering metals
> > > > > > > Trajan lamp alighted with gold engraved
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This conclusion to V.66 confirms the onset should precede a Lunar-Solar aspect, the official trine after the inexact Grand Trine with the Vertex, as the finishing touch like an engraving with gold, for the inextinguishable Vestal fire figuratively termed a lamp - Emperor Trajan was noted for making human torches in his 250 persecution.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Entre deux cymbes pieds et mains attaches
> > > > > > > De miel face oint, et de lait substante
> > > > > > > Guepes et mouches, fitine amour faches
> > > > > > > Poccilateur faucer, Cyphe tente
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [VI.89]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Between two cymbals feet and hands wedged,
> > > > > > > Face anointed with honey, and by milk sustained -
> > > > > > > Wasps and flies - The Father's love unpledged -
> > > > > > > Cup-Bearer to falsify, then the Chalice drained
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Use of the word 'cymbes' for 'boats' fits the theme of an ancient diabolical torturous execution method, whereby life is sustained while becoming host for the grisly insect emergence in the third line, which might occur broadly from the quakes and become reported. However, as an inference of 'cymbals' there is again a pop music subcurrent - a pair of percussive-seismic events plausibly represents the recent sibling quakes of the Turkey-Syria border region.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So the surviving victims of both intersecting quakes enduring their limbs trapped in the various collapsed structures are compared to the torture subjects, injured and possibly sustaining life towards further bio-horrors.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The final line might represent the succession of two Grand Trines for Geneva, one with Geneva's Solar Nadir, the other with the Venusian Nadir, after the intervening Saturnin phase, on 11 February 2023.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The second line is a corollary to the final line of I.57, which was the seer's epilogue to the 8 December 1980 assassination of John Lennon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Au sol la face ointe de lait et miel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the ground the face anointed with Milk And Honey
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The title for the posthumous album release was only one detail included: the first line hints at awareness of a trio of strong earthquakes in the South Pacific region during the immediate aftermath. The enumeration seems an obvious hint, since 1957 was the year Lennon first began performing publicly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The paternal love in line 3 could be that of The Father spoken of by Jesus: perhaps there would be a real-world manifestation, as the proclamation from the Astral Throne that something has been consummated; that such omnipotent love has become vexed guides the subsequent final line into an extravagant interpretation for the Revelation Cup of divine fury.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nostradamus wrote about three centuries before the Lourdes Marian apparitions of 1858; and the vision of Saint John has no precedent for a Cup-Bearer falsifying before the true Chalice has its contents delivered - except that the Cup was to be mixed double, while only one could activate. The illumination has demonstrated itself to be genuine by incorporating numerous contemporary events, rather than exhibiting extreme dubious tunnel-vision towards the ultimate cataclysm.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The esoteric source is highly advanced to convey the pivotal influence of Saturn at the Nadir between the two Cup Grand Trine configurations, comprehend how the Neptune lunar quincunx fits in the schedule, and how to summarize the transition into the critical reign of Vesta - it is for the reader to deduce that Venus making a vow in VIII.32 is how her debasement from X.28 occurs. When alluding to specific charts for massive quakes, as IV.95 suggests, the meanings can best be gleaned by post-mortem observations, towards projections for further incidents.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'Up...'
> > > > > > > 'To...'
> > > > > > > 'The...'
> > > > > > > 'Lord's...'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 'THRONE!'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > '...And -
> > > > > > > Saints...'
> > > > > > An exclamation point on this would be the 'widow and Virgin' tangent...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The widow mentioned in VI.29 and VIII.80 should be Saint Empress Theodora sharing her 11 February feast with the Lourdes commemoration. After the 20 January 842 death of Emperor Theophilus, widowed Theodora set on the path of ending the Iconoclast persecutions; she governed for twelve years, until her renowned drunkard son (age three at the time of his father's death) assumed her throne as Emperor Michael III, and banished her; Theodora spent the following eight years in a monastery, where she died of natural causes in 867.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > La veuve sainte entendant les nouvelles
> > > > > > De ses rameaux mis en perplex et trouble
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [VI.29]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The widowed saint hearing the news
> > > > > > Of her branches placed in perplexity and trouble
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The dual Grand Trines may be inferred from the 'branches' comment; the perplexity and trouble appear aligned with III.3.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Des innocents le sang de veuve et vierge
> > > > > > Tant de maux faits par moyen se grand Rouge
> > > > > > Saints simulacres trempes en ardent cierge
> > > > > > De frayeur crainte ne verra nul qui bouge
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [VIII.80]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The bloodshed by innocents for the widow and Virgin;
> > > > > > So many wicked deeds to enable Great Red as judge;
> > > > > > Holy icons 'trumped' by molten candle wax immersion -
> > > > > > In abject terror frozen, no one will be seen to budge
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The third line confirms Theodora as the widow accompanying Virgin Mary (as Our Lady of Lourdes), by summarizing her life story as opponent of the destruction to holy imagery and relics of saints committed by the Iconoclasts. Use of the word 'trempes' for 'dipped' seems particularly well-chosen.
> > > > > The word 'rameaux' for 'branches' from VI.29 suggests plural extensions, however with such time-sensitive material a late-stage conjecture is required.
> > > > >
> > > > > The critical Geneva Grand Trine from 11 February 2023 appears to be at 2:53 pm CET [8:53 am EST / 5:53 am PST] - it arrives about 2.5 hours into the Mercurial Reign which commences 11 February 2023 12:23 pm CET (when Mercury enters Aquarius). Several Grand Trines for the day were observed, with one found compliant.
> > > > >
> > > > > During the triangular configuration, Venus in Pisces will be in a trine with the Ascendant in Cancer, both briefly at 19 degrees 12 minutes: this aspect complicating the simultaneous Saturnin Lunar Grand Trine with the East Point appears to be how Venus as Mystery Babylon is debased with the Cup of divine wrath emerging for Geneva (the East Point is locally calculated). The Venusian orientation beyond the Midheaven point thus appears inconsequential.
> > > > The subject of religious icons would have become part of The Beatles' myth had they completed their vision for the Butcher photo sessions: in response to the British dismissal of John Lennon's religious views in the controversial Cleave interview article as projecting a "holier than thou" attitude, they planned a triptych with the shocking Butcher image as the centerpiece - the undone finishing touch was to be gilded haloes surrounding their heads. The mock reverence was said to convey that they saw themselves as merely flesh and blood, however it seemed to work on several levels, and since many found the image disturbing as a US album sleeve cover, that photo version was immediately recalled and pasted over with a more innocuous image.
> > > >
> > > > Continuing the projected timing of a cataclysm for which the recent quakes taking over 25,000 lives was a formidable precursor, the moment of a particular Grand Trine configuration was deduced to be the objective.
> > > >
> > > > The branches for Theodora as the saint widow suggests some day beyond 11 February; the High-Born from II.92 being Saint Richard of Lucca for the Gallic King of VIII.32 for 7 February merely puts the striking of the cataclysmic event past the date of the massively lethal sibling quakes at the Turkey-Syrian border on the 6th.
> > > >
> > > > The Cup-Bearer falsifying in VI.89 signifies a wrong date, as following the widow and Virgin clue to 11 February, rather than a choice between Grand Trines on a specific date.
> > > >
> > > > The V.18 phrase 'son Vitrix' interpreted for 'Sans-Vertex' infers by reverse corollary 'Vertex-Without,' a situation where the Vertex is occupied outside the Grand Trine pattern, rather than negatively asserting an inactive non-role.
> > > >
> > > > A Lombardy feast recurrence should coincide: Saint Juventius, bishop of Pavia, is honored on 12 February; and Blessed Jordan of Saxony was prior-provincial of the Order of Preachers in Lombardy circa 1221 - in 1237 Jordan during a pilgrimage to the Holy Land drowned in a shipwreck off the coast of Syria - he has a feast on 13 February.
> > > >
> > > > For Geneva on 13 February 2023 using CET:
> > > >
> > > > 1 am - Mercury exceeds the locational value of Vesta, thus commencing a Vestal Reign to last until the Sun enters Pisces (18 February 2023 11:35 pm CET);
> > > >
> > > > 3:49 pm - Neptune lunar trine - a possible condition for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3;
> > > >
> > > > 5:01 pm - Solar-Lunar square aspect - recalling 'Sol et Lune' from V.66;
> > > >
> > > > 5:53 pm - Dusk brings a maximum jump for Fortune (II.66), from the top of the chart to the lunar position at the bottom;
> > > >
> > > > 6:07 pm - Saturn falling commences the Saturnin interval;
> > > >
> > > > 6:39 to 6:48 pm - Grand Trine consisting of Lilith (4 degrees 3 minutes Leo), Vesta (2 degrees 26 minutes Aries), and the Part of Fortune (moving between both relative locations in Sagittarius, oriented at the bottom of the chart) - the fiery nature of Vesta and the Wind Succubus Lilith suggest this Chalice portends ill-Fortune;
> > > >
> > > > 6:43 pm - Mercury conjoined by the Vertex, in rough opposition with Lilith, and Fortune sextile the Vertex - this extraneous Vertex activity outside the concurrent Grand Trine formation could satisfy V.18, for the critical time in the Saturnin interval -
> > > >
> > > > << 13 February 2023 6:43 pm CET / 12:43 pm EST / 9:43 am PST >>;
> > > >
> > > > 8:19 pm - Venus falls at the Descendant, with Fortune at the Nadir;
> > > >
> > > > 8:30 pm - Neptune falls;
> > > >
> > > > 9:15 pm - Vesta at the Descendant in a rectangular formation with the Ascendant, Lilith and Mercury (Vesta sepulchral fire of X.6);
> > > >
> > > > 9:52 pm - Saturn lunar square.
> > > >
> > > > The perplexity in this application would regard the Neptune lunar trine, rather than Neptune falling local to Geneva; the next lunar aspect with the Sun as a square would be the prevalent condition for the glittering metals event, as in V.66.
> > > >
> > > > Both the Saturnin interval upon local descent and the subsequent Saturn lunar square could be the subjects of different lines, with context clarifying some ambiguity.
> > > Post-Vertex Saturnin Chalice To Vex Paternal Amours {14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST}
> > >
> > > The August 1999 Izmit quake was an early major event conjectured prior to occurrence, although the location being named in V.54 as Bisance for Byzantium was not integrated substantively into the awareness of the Cassini spacecraft gravity assist engaging during the Earth-flyby (the quake preceding by 20.5 hours) through cross-referencing a set of quatrains. The line of totality for the August 1999 solar eclipse during a Fixed Grand Cross was the transpiercing King in V.54, crossing the Black Sea and leaving Byzantium bloody. Also the final line of V.86 depicted the quake as Byzantium crushed by the head of Persia.
> > >
> > > I could sense the sibling quakes of 6 February 2023, striking instead the Turkish border with Syria, as reflected in VI.82, 89, and II.92 line 3, would have a similar high death toll ultimately - and the same story of weakly designed structures has emerged. Rescue efforts could trigger avalanches of debris; miners were devising tunnels to assist those operations. The Turkish reference in IV.58 was for 7 December 2022 via hagiology, for timing of the Griner-Bout prisoner exchange. The Turkey-Syria border quakes comprise the first stage of the Nephew prophecy (via saintly nephews of Saint Patrick), for Blood, with the second Nephew stage through Fear emerging later.
> > >
> > > The first week of the year had the Speakership debacle foretold in the final line of II.92 using Saint Telemachus; the Mercury solar conjunct of 7 January 2023 attended the beating of Tyre Nichols for the Memphis incitement of X.79; the next day the Brasilia insurrection presented the flowering of Hercules' lies, and the people trapped from exiting the presidential palace from II.66. The Nepal plane crash on 15 January 2023 complied with the Lyons-Marseilles encoded event; the Half Moon Bay shooting was on the Ulm day of 23 January for Blessed Henry Suso as in VIII.34. Each quatrain case carries its own set of messages, with complex logical intersections.
> > >
> > > The Victor comparison between IV.95 and VI.70 recalls the Big Victor character played by Victor Mature in the 1968 group-ending film "Head" by The Monkees, when their television show had been cancelled, as an inside-joke mocking their RCA corporate taskmasters, continuing the extremely subtle pop culture theme that recently surfaced in the prophecies.
> > >
> > > https://www.neatorama.com/2012/02/16/head-the-monkees-strange-movie/
> > >
> > > The Magi Gift Attack theme for the cataclysmic onset in II.92 (fire color of Gold), V.16 (smoke like Frankincense), and VIII.34 (injury and tomb both calling for Myrrh) thus seems to co-exist for this apparent finale to the sequence.
> > >
> > > The 13 February 2023 2023 6:45 pm CET Grand Trine of Lilith-Vesta-Fortune was decidedly not 'Sans-Vertex' ('son vitrix') to satisfy the secret hint in V.18, since Mercury in opposition with triangle point Lilith was conspicuously conjoined by the Vertex: thus it could be the falsifying Cupbearer of VI.89, approaching the true Chalice of Divine Fury.
> > >
> > > The Vestal Reign will last until 18 February 2023, however the conditions for the descending celestial lineup being considered for Geneva will transition more quickly: as John Lennon explained of his famous group's demise, 'Wedding Bells are breaking up that old gang of mine.' First Venus and Neptune through their conjunction will effectively 'switch places' 15 February 2023 :30 pm CET; then the Sun will overtake Saturn 16 February 2023 5:42 pm CET. These two changes alter the current compliance, as though backing the prophecy into a corner.
> > >
> > > A daily recurring Grand Trine involving the Midheaven point with Mercury and Ceres asserts itself on the evening of 14 February 2023, the Valentine's Day date corresponding with the 'fatherly amours' vexed in VI.89, on the final evening when the participants descending as V.65 suggests will have their ominous potential.
> > >
> > > For Geneva on 14 February 2023 using CET:
> > >
> > > 5:55 pm - Dusk brings a jump of Fortune to about 26 degrees from the lunar position;
> > >
> > > 6:04 pm - Saturn falling commences the fateful Saturnin interval;
> > >
> > > 7:09 to 7:17 pm CET - Grand Trine of Mercury (4.5 degrees Aquarius) with Ceres (6.5 degrees Libra) and Midheaven (reaching 5.5 degrees Gemini 7:12 pm CET), the Vertex around 15 degrees Aquarius forms a weak trine with Mars in Gemini, and a weak sextile with Juno in Aries (so the Grand Trine does not seem significantly in an aspect with the Vertex), rendering the critical time -
> > >
> > > << 14 February 2023 7:12 pm CET / 1:12 pm EST / 10:12 am PST >>
> > >
> > > - while not yet overtaken by the skewed Nadir, the Moon then appears at the bottom of the chart;
> > >
> > > 8:21 pm - Venus descends, presumably in the wake of the cataclysmic onset, thus being debased for X.28, with Fortune nearing the Moon;
> > >
> > > 8:26 pm - Neptune at the Descendant simultaneous with the Part of Fortune reaching the Moon, thereby presenting the III.3 perplexity for Neptunian Corinth and lunar Ephesus;
> > >
> > > 9:13 pm - Vesta reaching the Descendant is again in a rectangular formation with Mercury, Lilith, and the East Point, providing a visual fulfillment for the 'Vesta sepulchral fire' of X.6.
> > >
> > > The following evening a similar upright Grand Trine forms, yet it would be Neptune facing the debasing descent instead of Venus.
> > >
> > > The Saturn solar conjunct for Geneva 16 February 2023 will coincide with Dusk at 5:55 pm CET.
> > >
> > > The Vertex seems equally uninvolved with all three versions of the Midheaven-Mercury-Ceres Grand Trine on the three consecutive evenings 14 through 16 February 2023, yet only the Valentine's Day version bears the conditions given as ominous.
> > The currently-daily Midheaven Grand Trine with Mercury and Ceres was probably not intended for the activating Chalice, but the slightly later Grand Trine where Fortune in Sagittarius passes between the relative locations of Lilith past 4 degrees Leo and Vesta nearing 3 degrees Aries - that is an isolated triple correspondence in the Fire signs for Geneva 14 February 2023 7:49 pm to 7:55 pm CET [1:49 to 1:55 pm EST] omitted in error.
> Vestal Chalice For Venusian Nadir, Then Corinth & Ephesus Found In Axis {15 February 2023 2:33 am CET / 14 February 2023 8:33 pm EST / 5:33 pm PST}
>
> The requisite conditions in judicial astrology and emergent disastrous precursors have not failed in establishing an intricate trail towards an ultimate double cataclysm whose inevitability appears manifest - the cryptic veracity of the French prophecies allow some limited pre-event awareness, which should be refined, if only to facilitate post-mortem acknowledgement. Several major news events since the 25 October 2022 solar eclipse have been featured as precursors, incorporating precise details beyond random happenings (the serial posting here should demonstrate some elaborations).
>
> The immense fatalities from the sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border 6 February 2023 occurred on the feast for two nephews of Saint Patrick, enacting II.92 line 3 - 'Great human murder, taken from the Great Nephew'; the situations in VI.82 and 89 match, and a complicated comparison between this Nephew of Blood and a later Nephew emerging through Fear appears in the process of current fulfillment.
>
> Viewing the chart for Geneva's Venusian Nadir 15 February 2023 2:33 am CET showed yet another Grand Trine, then with the Ascendant joining Lilith and Vesta: since Venus is in the debasing Nadir position, this instance is particularly ominous.
>
> Also because Neptune is close to conjoining Venus, when it is at the Nadir two minutes later at 2:35 am CET, at the base of the skewed Prime Vertical, it complements at an oblique angle the Moon nearing opposition with Mars, with the two appearing aligned slightly off the Ecliptic. The Mars lunar opposition technically takes place later that morning at 3:05 am CET, yet the rough impression exists in the earlier charts.
>
> So two minutes after the potential Venusian debasement cataclysmic onset, Neptune and the Moon separately define a dual-axis correspondence for the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity from III.3.
>
> Venus reaching the Nadir ends the Saturnin interval; and the Vestal Reign culminates in the fateful Grand Trine with Lilith and the Ascendant - it takes 'three to tango' in forming the Chalice.
>
> The Vertex around 16 degrees Cancer has no aspects involving or competing significantly with the transitory Chalice Grand Trine.
>
> The principal celestial bodies are then beneath the Ecliptic, excluding Mars near the Descendant: Ceres, Lilith and Pallas share the overhead Vault, compliant with V.65 stipulating Vesta herself would not be visible.
>
> Since the Ascendant is involved, the Grand Trine points towards the Left, rather than appearing like a Balance, or moving in rotation.

Saturnin Cup Debases Queen Venus In Lunar Temple [22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST]

The temporal separation between the 6 February 2023 sibling quakes at the Turkish-Syrian border and the cataclysmic onset is slightly more extensive than presumed, accepting the Vienne date as 22 February 2023 for Saint Paschasius, bishop of Vienne, who was granted supremacy over seven provinces by Pope Sylvester I circa 322. Two Lombardy dates are adjacent: Saint Peter Damian with a 21 February feast was legate to Milan for Pope Nicholas II circa 1059; and Blessed Anselm of Milan was a friar whose body was enshrined in the church of Santa Maria della Pace after his death in 1481.

The Magi Gift Attack theme acquires the necessary date of a saint associated with myrrh via Saint Polycarp, bishop of Smyrna (the location known for myrrh), who was to be burned alive in a stadium circa 155, assuring his executioners there was no need to nail him to the pyre: from a witness account, "Like a ship's sail swirling in the wind, the flame became as it were a dome encircling the martyr's body. Surrounded by the fire, his body was like a bread that is baked, or gold and silver white-hot in a furnace, not like flesh that has been burnt. So sweet a fragrance came to us that it was like that of burning incense, or some other costly and sweet-smelling gum." So the saint associated with the Myrrh location set aflame exhibited the properties of the gummy substance, although Polycarp did not perish by the fire.

Perceiving Polycarp to be unharmed, the execution proceeded using a dagger to stab him to death, then his corpse was burned.

"'I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire'"
{Revelation 3:18}

Both Blessed Anselm of Milan and Saint Polycarp share the 23 February feast day.

Other prophetic references become clear around these dates.

The feast of the Chair of Saint Peter is 22 February, commemorating the founding of the See of Antioch; the Roman celebration also included 18 February. Both Masses include the same 'Collect': "O God, who, together with the power of the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven, didst bestow on blessed Peter Thy Apostle the pontificate of binding and loosing, grant that by the aid of his intersection we may be released from the yoke of our sins."

Gaule branler, pericliter la barque

Gaul to shake, the Bark to become imperiled

Line 3 of X.58 could be presenting two references for 22 February 2023, Gaul and Vienne being for Saint Paschasius, and the Bark indicating not the current papacy at Rome, but the feast for the Chair of Saint Peter.

About a hundred Grand Trines were examined from 16 to 25 February 2023, discovering some anomalies. A Double Grand Trine oriented like the Star of David was found for Geneva charts 17 February 2023, without the requisite ominous conditions; for the afternoon of 21 February 2023, Fortune and the Vertex moved in trine-alignment to form successive Grand Trines with several celestial bodies (the Moon, Neptune, Venus, Vesta, Jupiter, Chiron and Juno).

The Part of Fortune is clearly hinted in II.66, and the Vertex (as near-anagram Vitrix) in V.18, where 'son vitrix' works translated as 'his Vertex' for Trinitarian co-founder Saint Felix of Valois. The suggestion from V.65 of principals in the affair being hidden could relate to the unseen conceptual points: Vesta as the lady on coals no longer being visible speaks to atmospheric changes rendering the overhead Vault obscured.

The veil seemed lifted on the pivotal contribution of Saturn when it was realized the ringed planet was involved in only one Grand Trine during the interval examined - and it emerged as a variation on the post-Full Super Moon 16 July 2022 2:06 am CEST condition compliant with IV.31, however no longer with the Moon near Saturn. The previous Saturnin Grand Trine was on the false-Midheaven Apex of the Eleventh House cusp: its base has Venus on one side, and the merging of Fortune and the Vertex on the other. The new Saturnin Grand Trine occurs 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET, with the base having the Vertex on one side, and Fortune on the other.

Thus the lunar conjunctions could be separated for Neptune, presenting the Corinth-Ephesus perplexity of III.3, and the Vestal sepulchral fire of X.6: the Moon would be passing Venus for the catastrophe to debase her specifically.

A Venusian Reign starts by entering Aries 20 February 2023 8:56 am CET, and ends when exceeding the relative location of Lilith, 24 February 2023 4:07 pm CET. Venus as Mystery Babylon from Revelation receives her Cup of divine wrath while sitting as Queen, rejecting The Great Mourning for Jesus Christ, while asserting (quite accurately of herself as representing modern culture) that she is no widow who might feel such emotional grief.

The Neptune lunar conjunction occurs 21 February 2023 8:52 pm CET at 24 degrees 17 minutes Pisces.

For Geneva on 22 February 2023 using CET:

10:26 am - Venus lunar conjunct at 2 degrees 32 minutes Aries;

10:47 am - Saturnin Grand Trine with Apex at false Midheaven on Eleventh House cusp (28 degrees 25 minutes Aquarius), base consisting of Fortune (28 degrees 44 minutes Gemini) and the Vertex (26 degrees 47 minutes Libra), and the East Point separately merged with the Node - this is the critical time for cataclysmic onset -

<< 22 February 2023 10:47 am CET / 4:47 am EST / 1:47 am PST >>;

12:07 pm - Pisces Sun and Aries Moon adjacent at 3 degrees 33 minutes - 'De Sol et Lune' ('With Sun and Moon') from V.66;

4:52 pm - Vesta lunar conjunct at 6 degrees 24 minutes Aries.

The final line of V.66 skips ahead to the hybrid solar eclipse of 20 April 2023, visible for Indonesia and Australia: the date coincides with the feast for Saint Servilian, a Trajan martyr beheaded in Rome circa 117.

Ardente lampe Traian d'or burine

Burning lamp engraved with Trajan gold

*

'...When He Entered
Through The Gate
Of Jerusalem..'

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