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Re: We have the Fourteenth Doctor - and he is a man

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Subject: Re: We have the Fourteenth Doctor - and he is a man
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 by: Idlehands - Wed, 11 May 2022 01:43 UTC

On 2022-05-10 7:28 a.m., The Doctor wrote:
> In article <5a8e195f-0611-45df-9d14-5aec88ef378cn@googlegroups.com>,
> tsbr...@gmail.com <tsbrueni@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 9:30:37 PM UTC-7, netk...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> In article <vIqdnTia9966IuT_...@brightview.co.uk>,
>>> The True Doctor <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>> On 09/05/2022 13:44, Idlehands wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-05-08 11:03 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> On 09/05/2022 05:44, Idlehands wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 8:37 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 09/05/2022 02:52, cruciverbalist wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 May 2022 22:14:59 +0100, The True Doctor
>>>>>>>>> <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 21:10, Idlehands wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2022-05-08 1:30 p.m., The True Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 19:59, The Other Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The True Doctor" <agam...@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:nqednfpLMNQmjeX_...@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/05/2022 13:23, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ncuti Gatwa: BBC names actor as next Doctor Who star
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You may not be familiar with him but if not, check out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Netflix's Sex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Education (you should anyway). His Eric is an excellent role.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He's not a real man. He's an effeminate poof playing, based on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RTD's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recent bigoted and sexist statements, an effeminate poof,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gays
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to RTD can play gay characters, and by extrapolation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> straight actors can play straight characters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bollocks. Ncuti Gatwa plays a gay man in Sex Education so you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assuming
>>>>>>>>>>>>> he's gay. But he's never discussed his own sexuality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regardless, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> colour
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That means he's gay. He talks like an effeminate gay, because
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>> what he is. Just look at the way he was dressed for the press,
>>>>>>>>>>>> bearing
>>>>>>>>>>>> his bare chest through an open lapelled jacket.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of his skin and his sexuality have absolutely nothing to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ability
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as an actor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> His skin colour and his sexuality were the ONLY reason he was cast.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You've got to be stupid and naive if you think he was cast based
>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>> on merit. The BBC had already decided he had to be black and RTD
>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>> only come back if he could make the Doctor gay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a bigot. Please stop watching Doctor Who. You're an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> embarrassment to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You are the bigot along with this entire show's producers.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who
>>>>>>>>>>>> ended in 2017. The Doctor was a white British male heterosexual
>>>>>>>>>>>> character for over 50 years, and people are entitled to desire
>>>>>>>>>>>> it to
>>>>>>>>>>>> stay that way. Only a racist would think being white, British,
>>>>>>>>>>>> male,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and heterosexual was not good enough.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you think casting a gay actor is going to bring back female
>>>>>>>>>>>> viewers and fans? How do you think it is going to attract straight
>>>>>>>>>>>> male fans? Where's the romance going to be with the companion,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> was the only thing that sold any of RTD's series. No, wait, he's
>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>> to make the companion homosexual too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And then there's his Rwandan accent. How does that make him
>>>>>>>>>>>> British?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of us (Yads excepted). Stick to what you're good at -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pizzas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're a stupid bigoted imbecile. This fucking sexist and racist
>>>>>>>>>>>> wokery and identity politics has destroyed everything. Doctor Who,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Star Trek, Star Wars, and LOTR have all been totally destroyed to
>>>>>>>>>>>> server the narrow minded bigoted self interest of a bunch far left
>>>>>>>>>>>> political activists and sexual perverts! They're only writing for
>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves and people that think like them or they want to think
>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's not recovering from ratings of only 2.2 million after this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> RTD could have signalled the wokery would end, but instead there
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> be even more of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Adventures of the Timeless Child monster continues for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, it takes a lot of effort to maintain such an ignorant state
>>>>>>>>>>> in this
>>>>>>>>>>> day and age of instant communication, you should use such energy for
>>>>>>>>>>> something better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are the one who is ignorant. 90% of the audience of Doctor Who is
>>>>>>>>>> heterosexual and 2/3 of the audience is male.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do gay people scare you so bad? Is your sexual orientation so
>>>>>>>>>>> fragile or is it living in denial that is causing you all this
>>>>>>>>>>> grief.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What justification is there in inserting gay characters and
>>>>>>>>>> changing the
>>>>>>>>>> sexuality of existing ones in existing shows where 90% of the
>>>>>>>>>> audience
>>>>>>>>>> is heterosexual? There isn't any. What this amounts to, especially
>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>> it involves family shows like Doctor Who being taken over and
>>>>>>>>>> repurposed, is sexual grooming and predation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aggie, I am going to concede one point to you. I am a dyed in the wool
>>>>>>>>> liberal going all the way back to the 1960s. Yet even I find the
>>>>>>>>> madness of the current far left and the woke culture irritating as all
>>>>>>>>> hell.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That said, listening to you spout far right MAGA conspiracy shit is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not a Marxist and don't support Corporatism being used to
>>>>>>>> control industry without the state actually owning it, so I can't be
>>>>>>>> far right. I'm a centrist. Industry should neither be owned nor
>>>>>>>> controlled by the state. Research where the term far right comes
>>>>>>>> from. It only applies to Marxists and Marxist sympathisers like
>>>>>>>> Adolf Hitler and Mussolini who opposed state ownership of industry
>>>>>>>> but believe the state should still control it, and no one else.
>>>>>>>> People who stood in the centre of politics at the time of Hitler
>>>>>>>> were called Centrists, or Social Democrats by those on the left, and
>>>>>>>> bourgeois by the far left Marxists. Karl Marx himself was a Jew
>>>>>>>> hating bigot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> even more offensive. You claim to speak the truth, but that far right
>>>>>>>>> MAGA lunacy is so far off the rails and so far from the truth that it
>>>>>>>>> would be laughable if it wasn't so dangerous.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The so called far right is exactly the same as the far left. Both
>>>>>>>> are opposing factions of Marxism by historical definition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reread some of what you write. It doesn't come across as well thought
>>>>>>>>> out ideas and concepts; it comes across as political invective and the
>>>>>>>>> screed of a madman. You not only come off as a one trick pony, you
>>>>>>>>> come off as a mentally ill and a self-loathing homosexual. Think about
>>>>>>>>> it, dude (assuming you are a dude).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And now you lose all credibly completely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't watch Doctor Who to have it taken over and used to
>>>>>>>> indoctrinate people with the showrunner's homosexual agenda,
>>>>>>>> especially when 90% of the audience is not gay. Opposing this
>>>>>>>> propaganda and the sexual grooming of children which it amounts to
>>>>>>>> does not make you gay, insane, or self loathing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What makes RTD think that the majority of the audience wants the
>>>>>>>> Doctor to be turned gay? What makes him think that the majority want
>>>>>>>> to be preached to about race, gender, and identity politics?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who the fuck does RTD think that this agenda appeals to?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RTD isn't interested in the viewers or fans, he's only interest is
>>>>>>>> himself and his divisive far left wing politics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The moment you claimed Hitler was a Marxist sympathiser you
>>>>>>> invalidate every bit of this post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't invalidate anything because both Hitler and Mussolini were
>>>>>> Marxists and stated it themselves. Read Mein Kampf where Hitler
>>>>>> explicitly states he deliberately incorporated Marxist ideology into
>>>>>> National Socialism (ie. Nazism) in order to attract Marxists to his
>>>>>> side and usurp the position of the German Marxist Party.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I already kicked your sad sorry ass about your delusions concerning
>>>>> Hitler, not worth my time doing it again.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's amazing how you try to rewrite history to meet your private fantasy
>>>>> world.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are the one trying to rewrite history. Read Mein Kampf and the
>>>> interviews and debates which both Hitler and Mussolini too part in. Both
>>>> of them were far right Marxists as described by themselves, members of
>>>> of their own parties, and other Marxists who attacked them for not being
>>>> Marxist enough.
>>>>
>>> Idlehands lies like a fish!
>>
>> How does a fish lie?
>
> constantly quaffing alcohol.

Fish cannot consume alcohol binky the idiot whether they are kosher or not.

More lies, nothing but lies from binky.

--
The very powerful and very stupid have one thing in common. They don't
alter their views to match the facts.

They alter the facts to match their views.

Doctor Who The Face of Evil, Part 4, January 22, 1977
(Binky couldn't name the episode)

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