At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?

On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:

> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?

No, they can't. Stay off the road and your problem is solved.

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 07:43:26 +1100, Noddy wrote:

> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>
>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>
> No, they can't. Stay off the road and your problem is solved.

You could stop posting and solve this groups problem.

HTH

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On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?

**My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are auto-levelling to
avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
similarly configured.

On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 07:43:30 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>
> > At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
> > with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
> > normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
> > beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Headlights with keratosis?.....Whodathunkit. :)))

> > whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
> > eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
> > driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
> No, they can't. Stay off the road and your problem is solved.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Prolly one of those that looks straight at oncoming lights rather than look away from them....

*Muscle cars* (raised rather than lowered) driven by tradies??*... How the fuck do you discern *that*??. Given the circumstances?.
Get back under yer bridge!.

>
>
>
> --
> --
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.

On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> > At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
> > with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
> > normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
> > beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
> > whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
> > eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
> > driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?

~~~~~~~~~
> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are auto-levelling to
> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
> similarly configured.
~~~~~~~~~
You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)

On 25/3/2022 4:56 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 07:43:30 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Headlights with keratosis?.....Whodathunkit. :)))
>
>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>> No, they can't. Stay off the road and your problem is solved.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Prolly one of those that looks straight at oncoming lights rather than look away from them....
>
> *Muscle cars* (raised rather than lowered) driven by tradies??*... How the fuck do you discern *that*??. Given the circumstances?.
> Get back under yer bridge!.

LOL, I'm trying my best to picture a raised Mustang/GT
Falcon/Monaro/Camaro etc with roof racks piled high with timber and
towing a big trailer, somehow the picture doesn't look right:-)

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On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 22:56:39 -0700 (PDT), "jonz@ nothere.com"
<johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 07:43:30 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>> > At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>> > with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>> > normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>> > beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Headlights with keratosis?.....Whodathunkit. :)))

*sniff* well all the other headlights cause no trouble at all.
>
>> > whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>> > eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>> > driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>> No, they can't. Stay off the road and your problem is solved.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Prolly one of those that looks straight at oncoming lights rather than look away from them....
>
> *Muscle cars* (raised rather than lowered) driven by tradies??*... How the fuck do you discern *that*??. Given the circumstances?.
> Get back under yer bridge!.

Jeeezuz! I mean those gleaming new Toyotas with a tradies' lock-up
toolkit at the back and the comfy two-door at the front. They're huge
tall & battle-ready, usually with fancy bloated tyres that lift the
thing way off the ground. They're common at 6 in the morning and
driven by driver in a fluoro jacket. Capish? I guess you're
referring to those boring bourgeois five-door all lookalikes.

On 25/03/2022 5:28 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 22:56:39 -0700 (PDT), "jonz@ nothere.com"
> <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 07:43:30 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
>>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>
>>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Headlights with keratosis?.....Whodathunkit. :)))
>
> *sniff* well all the other headlights cause no trouble at all.
>>
>>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>>> No, they can't. Stay off the road and your problem is solved.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Prolly one of those that looks straight at oncoming lights rather than look away from them....
>>
>> *Muscle cars* (raised rather than lowered) driven by tradies??*... How the fuck do you discern *that*??. Given the circumstances?.
>> Get back under yer bridge!.
>
> Jeeezuz! I mean those gleaming new Toyotas with a tradies' lock-up
> toolkit at the back and the comfy two-door at the front. They're huge
> tall & battle-ready, usually with fancy bloated tyres that lift the
> thing way off the ground. They're common at 6 in the morning and
> driven by driver in a fluoro jacket. Capish? I guess you're
> referring to those boring bourgeois five-door all lookalikes.

For what it's worth, as far as I know, Ford Ranger, Isuzu D-Max and
Mitsubishi Triton all have adjustable headlights, to counter the fact
that with a load in the back, the headlights lift and point further up
the road. The Ranger has a 5 or 6 position headlight system, which was
explained to me in a whole 2 seconds by the dealer!. After getting
flashed a couple of times first time i drove it to work, i realised that
they had left the lights pointing up as high as they could. Sat outside
work, read the manual, and now they sit perfect. The drivers light stops
about 15 metres up the road, the left, maybe 20 metres. The Stedi
lightbar between them goes out to about 700 metres. And works VERY well. :-D
>

On 25/03/2022 5:19 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 25/3/2022 4:56 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:

>>
>>    *Muscle cars* (raised rather than lowered) driven by tradies??*...
>> How the fuck do you discern *that*??. Given the circumstances?.
>>          Get back under yer bridge!.
>
> LOL, I'm trying my best to picture a raised Mustang/GT
> Falcon/Monaro/Camaro etc with roof racks piled high with timber and
> towing a big trailer, somehow the picture doesn't look right:-)

He's a moron.

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Regards,
Noddy.

On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?

with so many of those oversize 4wd's and utes becoming common, it's a
very real issue.

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On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 17:19:37 UTC+11, Daryl wrote:
> On 25/3/2022 4:56 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> > On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 07:43:30 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
> >> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> >>
> >>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
> >>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
> >>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
> >>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Headlights with keratosis?.....Whodathunkit. :)))
> >
> >>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
> >>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
> >>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
> >> No, they can't. Stay off the road and your problem is solved.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Prolly one of those that looks straight at oncoming lights rather than look away from them....
> >
> > *Muscle cars* (raised rather than lowered) driven by tradies??*... How the fuck do you discern *that*??. Given the circumstances?.
> > Get back under yer bridge!.
> LOL, I'm trying my best to picture a raised Mustang/GT
> Falcon/Monaro/Camaro etc with roof racks piled high with timber and
> towing a big trailer, somehow the picture doesn't look right:-)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yep, I got a similar vision... :)
>
> --
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On 25/3/2022 8:06 pm, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>> beam.   Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>> eyes.   Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>> driven by trades people.   Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>
>
> with so many of those oversize 4wd's and utes becoming common, it's a
> very real issue.
>
It's not so much the oversized ute that's the concern, it's the dodgers
with tiny todgers who are driving those utes who are the real concern.

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On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>
> ~~~~~~~~~
>> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are auto-levelling to
>> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
>> similarly configured.
> ~~~~~~~~~
> You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)

**Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
would another story.

On 26/03/2022 6:57 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are auto-levelling to
>>> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
>>> similarly configured.
>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>   You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay
>> etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)
>
> **Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
> my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
> would another story.

LED globes in a headlight that was not designed for them are illegal in
low or high beam. To make it legal, you must replace the light assembly
and remove the reflector that was originally designed for halogen globes.

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Regards,
Noddy.

On 26/3/2022 6:57 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are auto-levelling to
>>> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
>>> similarly configured.
>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>   You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay
>> etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)
>
> **Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
> my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
> would another story.

Why do you think it would be illegal to fit LED's to your low beam?
Never heard of law saying that LED's need to be self leveling, our WRX
had LED low beams and they weren't self leveling.
Ours was built late 2014, self leveling was on later models but not ours.

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On 26/3/2022 9:24 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/03/2022 6:57 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>>>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are
>>>> auto-levelling to
>>>> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
>>>> similarly configured.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>   You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay
>>> etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)
>>
>> **Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
>> my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
>> would another story.
>
> LED globes in a headlight that was not designed for them are illegal in
> low or high beam. To make it legal, you must replace the light assembly
> and remove the reflector that was originally designed for halogen globes.
>

I fitted LED's to the Golfs high beam, only reason I didn't fit them to
the low beam is they are very difficult to fit and not really necessary.
https://www.stedi.com.au/led-conversion-kits/headlight-globes.html
According to the above it doesn't change the "pattern" of the light,
only the brightness?

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On 26/03/2022 10:02 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 26/3/2022 9:24 am, Noddy wrote:

>> LED globes in a headlight that was not designed for them are illegal
>> in low or high beam. To make it legal, you must replace the light
>> assembly and remove the reflector that was originally designed for
>> halogen globes.
>>
>
> I fitted LED's to the Golfs high beam, only reason I didn't fit them to
> the low beam is they are very difficult to fit and not really necessary.
> https://www.stedi.com.au/led-conversion-kits/headlight-globes.html
> According to the above it doesn't change the "pattern" of the light,
> only the brightness?

Yeah, the reflectors are the problem apparently. LED globes in housings
with Reflectors designed to be used with Halogen globes have too much
light amplification making them far brighter than the law permits. If
you want to run LED headlights on a car that was originally built with
halogen headlights then you need to retrofit a light assembly designed
specifically for LED's if you want it to be legal.

It's a projection versus reflection issue. LED's project their light
straight out of the headlight without using reflection assistance to any
significant degree, whereas Halogen lights rely on reflection to work.
Mix the two together and you get a brightness intensity that goes off
the scale.

You can see the difference in styles in this pic here which shows a
standard 2010 Honda Civic Halogen headlight assembly with a retrofit LED
assembly:

> https://www.xenonpro.com/images/articles/oe-vs-retrofit-headlights.png

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Regards,
Noddy.

On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 17:28:59 UTC+11, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 22:56:39 -0700 (PDT), "jonz@ nothere.com"
> <johnhh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 07:43:30 UTC+11, Noddy wrote:
> >> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> >>
> >> > At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
> >> > with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
> >> > normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
> >> > beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Headlights with keratosis?.....Whodathunkit. :)))
> *sniff* well all the other headlights cause no trouble at all.
> >
> >> > whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
> >> > eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
> >> > driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
> >> No, they can't. Stay off the road and your problem is solved.
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Prolly one of those that looks straight at oncoming lights rather than look away from them....
> >
> > *Muscle cars* (raised rather than lowered) driven by tradies??*... How the fuck do you discern *that*??. Given the circumstances?.
> > Get back under yer bridge!.
> Jeeezuz! I mean those gleaming new Toyotas with a tradies' lock-up
> toolkit at the back and the comfy two-door at the front. They're huge
> tall & battle-ready, usually with fancy bloated tyres that lift the
> thing way off the ground. They're common at 6 in the morning and
> driven by driver in a fluoro jacket. Capish? I guess you're
> referring to those boring bourgeois five-door all lookalikes.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No, i`m *not*.. I`m referring to *muscle cars*. You had better check the definition, coz you don`t have a clue Capish?........

On 26/3/2022 9:24 am, Noddy wrote:
> On 26/03/2022 6:57 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>>>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are
>>>> auto-levelling to
>>>> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
>>>> similarly configured.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>   You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay
>>> etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)
>>
>> **Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
>> my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
>> would another story.
>
> LED globes in a headlight that was not designed for them are illegal in
> low or high beam. To make it legal, you must replace the light assembly
> and remove the reflector that was originally designed for halogen globes.
>
Darren has been Googling I see. ;-)

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On Saturday, 26 March 2022 at 06:57:14 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
> > On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> >> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
> >>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
> >>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
> >>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
> >>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
> >>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
> >>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
> >>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~
> >> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are auto-levelling to
> >> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
> >> similarly configured.
> > ~~~~~~~~~
> > You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)
> **Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
> my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
> would another story.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I bought a cheap pair to try out in my Jeep. But because they have a cooling fan and a plug and wiring to fit the existing setup, there was not enough room. :(.
Btw, *illegal* is a sick bird. :)))

On 26/03/2022 3:57 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are auto-levelling to
>>> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
>>> similarly configured.
>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>   You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay
>> etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)
>
> **Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
> my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
> would another story.

As the dimwits and Googler(s) have just found out.

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it is unproven, he is lying."

On 26/03/2022 9:23 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 26/3/2022 6:57 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>>>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are
>>>> auto-levelling to
>>>> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
>>>> similarly configured.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>   You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay
>>> etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)
>>
>> **Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
>> my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
>> would another story.
>
> Why do you think it would be illegal to fit LED's to your low beam?
> Never heard of law saying that LED's need to be self leveling, our WRX
> had LED low beams and they weren't self leveling.
> Ours was built late 2014, self leveling was on later models but not ours.
>

Some ADR approved headlight replacements out there but the globe
replacements are not
https://www.narva.com.au/blogs/blogs/2020/Dec/21/aftermarket-led-globes-adr-approval

On 26/03/2022 6:53 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 26/3/2022 6:57 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>>>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are
>>>> auto-levelling to
>>>> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
>>>> similarly configured.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>   You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay
>>> etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)
>>
>> **Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
>> my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
>> would another story.
>
> Why do you think it would be illegal to fit LED's to your low beam?

ADR compliance. LED replacements are not ADR compliant.

> Never heard of law saying that LED's need to be self leveling,

You don't look so it doesn't exist, that's your mentality as you have
shown many times. Ignorance is not a defense however.

our WRX
> had LED low beams and they weren't self leveling.

If from factory the lights were ADR compliant.

> Ours was built late 2014, self leveling was on later models but not ours.
>

Doesn't matter.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 26/03/2022 9:53 am, Daryl wrote:
> On 26/3/2022 6:57 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> On 25/03/2022 5:09 pm, jonz@ nothere.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, 25 March 2022 at 15:51:32 UTC+11, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 25/03/2022 7:20 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>> At night some cars, especially those raised higher than usual, and
>>>>> with those tiny bright white LEDs seem unable to lower the beams to
>>>>> normal levels, are as bright or brighter than the older ones on high
>>>>> beam. Also, the light is of the actinic type, blinding white,
>>>>> whereas the older ones have a yellowish tinge and much easier on the
>>>>> eyes. Even dazzled I notice these are from muscle cars typically
>>>>> driven by trades people. Can these beams be lowered in some fashion?
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>> **My Subaru has very bright, LED, headlights. They are
>>>> auto-levelling to
>>>> avoid the situations you mention. I assumed all LED headlights would be
>>>> similarly configured.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~
>>>   You can buy LED globes to fit just about *any* vehicle, from Ebay
>>> etc. Very cheap and nothing automatic about them. ;)
>>
>> **Yes, you can and they would be illegal to use. I just fitted some to
>> my Stagea for high beam, which I understand is not illegal. Low beam
>> would another story.
>
> Why do you think it would be illegal to fit LED's to your low beam?

**As I understand it, they must be self-levelling to be legal.

> Never heard of law saying that LED's need to be self leveling, our WRX
> had LED low beams and they weren't self leveling.
> Ours was built late 2014, self leveling was on later models but not ours.

**Yep. They may well have been legal back then (though I suspect you had
a dashboard adjustment for load compensation), but I understand they are
not legal any longer.