On 28/2/22 10:43, Noddy wrote:
> On 28/02/2022 9:42 am, keithr0 wrote:
>> On 28/02/2022 6:14 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>
>>> He might be contacted for advice about removing trolls from this here
>>> hallowed NG.
>>
>> There are only trolls in aus.legal, it's a requirement for entry.
>
> There's a couple in aus.cars, and in fact you're replying to one right
> here.
>
Well, I sure am. You are the biggest troll ever seen in aus.cars.

--
Xeno

On 28/02/2022 11:15 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 28/2/22 07:14, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:37:20 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/02/2022 5:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-24/sydney-man-jailed-for-crash-that-killed-teenage-brothers/100856996>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what legal advice he got. Since he pleaded guilty, any appeal
>>>> can only be over the sentence.
>>>>
>>>> I have some difficulty understanding how he was guilty of negligent
>>>> driving occasioning death and negligent driving occasioning grievous
>>>> harm, since in both cases, it was the driver of the stolen car who
>>>> chose
>>>> to attempt a roundabout at 150km/h.
>>>>
>>>> Granted, the driver wouldn't driven that fast if the accused hadn't
>>>> been
>>>> behind them, but he wouldn't have been there if his car hadn't been
>>>> stolen.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not aware of any police being found guilty of such an offence
>>>> when a
>>>> chase ends badly.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> He ought to get an award for removing malignant parts of the gene pool.
>> He might be contacted for advice about removing trolls from this here
>> hallowed NG.
>
> Actually, it's a *hollowed* newsgroup, *hollowed out* because of
> Darren's wild rantings at anyone with a dissenting view to his own.
> Make that anyone with a view - period!
>

true. and now by his enablers in the DHC. (Dumbass Haters Club)

--
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the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy

On 28/02/2022 11:28 am, Xeno wrote:
> On 28/2/22 10:43, Noddy wrote:
>> On 28/02/2022 9:42 am, keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 28/02/2022 6:14 am, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>>>> He might be contacted for advice about removing trolls from this here
>>>> hallowed NG.
>>>
>>> There are only trolls in aus.legal, it's a requirement for entry.
>>
>> There's a couple in aus.cars, and in fact you're replying to one
>> right here.
>>
> Well, I sure am. You are the biggest troll ever seen in aus.cars.
>

keefy is trying to take his crown

--
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"His opinions have been crushed into insignificant dust by
the enormous weight of his lies"- Alvey on the Fraudster
"He came, he saw, he got pummelled" - Alvey on Keefy
"His self serving ego pumping comments just
read like witless wankery"- Clocky on Keefy

On 28/02/2022 10:30 am, Yosemite Sam wrote:
> On 28/02/2022 11:15 am, Xeno wrote:
>> On 28/2/22 07:14, Peter Jason wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:37:20 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 24/02/2022 5:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-24/sydney-man-jailed-for-crash-that-killed-teenage-brothers/100856996>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder what legal advice he got. Since he pleaded guilty, any appeal
>>>>> can only be over the sentence.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some difficulty understanding how he was guilty of negligent
>>>>> driving occasioning death and negligent driving occasioning grievous
>>>>> harm, since in both cases, it was the driver of the stolen car who
>>>>> chose
>>>>> to attempt a roundabout at 150km/h.
>>>>>
>>>>> Granted, the driver wouldn't driven that fast if the accused hadn't
>>>>> been
>>>>> behind them, but he wouldn't have been there if his car hadn't been
>>>>> stolen.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not aware of any police being found guilty of such an offence
>>>>> when a
>>>>> chase ends badly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>
>>>> He ought to get an award for removing malignant parts of the gene pool.
>>> He might be contacted for advice about removing trolls from this here
>>> hallowed NG.
>>
>> Actually, it's a *hollowed* newsgroup, *hollowed out* because of
>> Darren's wild rantings at anyone with a dissenting view to his own.
>> Make that anyone with a view - period!
>>
>
> true. and now by his enablers in the DHC. (Dumbass Haters Club)
>
Those who hate dumbasses?

On 27-Feb-22 3:37 pm, F Murtz wrote:

> Increasingly so,they have many restrictions now in NSW no pit
> maneuvers
Whereas in good ol' USA, using a pit manoeuvrer on a driver who
represents no threat and is not showing signs of attempting to flee, is
not enough to get an officer fired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-S041_DtM

Sylvia.

Stupider than anyone Else wrote:
-----------------------------------------------------
>>
> > Increasingly so,they have many restrictions now in NSW no pit
> > maneuvers
>
> Whereas in good ol' USA, using a pit manoeuvrer on a driver who
> represents no threat and is not showing signs of attempting to flee, is
> not enough to get an officer fired.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-S041_DtM
>

** One officer, one state ( Arkansas) and only incident like it on u-tube.

The lady driver needed to slow to under 30mph to make her intention to stop clear.

...... Phil

On 01-Mar-22 10:37 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> Stupider than anyone Else wrote:
> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Increasingly so,they have many restrictions now in NSW no pit
>>> maneuvers
>>
>> Whereas in good ol' USA, using a pit manoeuvrer on a driver who
>> represents no threat and is not showing signs of attempting to flee, is
>> not enough to get an officer fired.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-S041_DtM
>>
>
> ** One officer, one state ( Arkansas) and only incident like it on u-tube.
>
> The lady driver needed to slow to under 30mph to make her intention to stop clear.
>
>
>
> ..... Phil
>
>

If the officer had been fired, I wouldn't have considered it worthy of
comment. It's the fact that he still has his job that makes it significant.

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
> Phil Allison wrote
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote

>>>> Increasingly so,they have many restrictions now in NSW no pit
>>>> maneuvers
>>>
>>> Whereas in good ol' USA, using a pit manoeuvrer on a driver who
>>> represents no threat and is not showing signs of attempting to flee, is
>>> not enough to get an officer fired.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-S041_DtM
>>>
>> ** One officer, one state ( Arkansas) and only incident like it on
>> u-tube.
>> The lady driver needed to slow to under 30mph to make her intention to
>> stop clear.
>> ..... Phil
>>
>
> If the officer had been fired, I wouldn't have considered it worthy of
> comment. It's the fact that he still has his job that makes it
> significant.

They might just have enough of a clue, unlike you, to realise
that it makes more sense given the high cost of training they
have already spent on him, to decide that he won't actually
be that stupid again so no point in sacking him.

Stupider than anyone Else wrote:
-----------------------------------------------------
>>>
> >>> Increasingly so,they have many restrictions now in NSW no pit
> >>> maneuvers
> >>
> >> Whereas in good ol' USA, using a pit manoeuvrer on a driver who
> >> represents no threat and is not showing signs of attempting to flee, is
> >> not enough to get an officer fired.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-S041_DtM
> >>
> >
> > ** One officer, one state ( Arkansas) and only incident like it on u-tube.
> >
> > The lady driver needed to slow to under 30mph to make her intention to stop clear.
> >
> If the officer had been fired, I wouldn't have considered it worthy of
> comment. It's the fact that he still has his job that makes it significant.
>

** No it doesn't.

....... Phil

On 03-Mar-22 9:31 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>> Phil Allison wrote
>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>
>>>>> Increasingly so,they have many restrictions now in NSW no pit
>>>>> maneuvers
>>>>
>>>> Whereas in good ol' USA, using a pit manoeuvrer on a driver who
>>>> represents no threat and is not showing signs of attempting to flee, is
>>>> not enough to get an officer fired.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-S041_DtM
>>>>
>>>  ** One officer, one state ( Arkansas) and only incident like it on
>>> u-tube.
>>>  The lady driver needed to slow to under 30mph to make her intention
>>> to stop clear.
>>>    .....  Phil
>>>
>>
>> If the officer had been fired, I wouldn't have considered it worthy of
>> comment. It's the fact that he still has his job that makes it
>> significant.
>
> They might just have enough of a clue, unlike you, to realise
> that it makes more sense given the high cost of training they
> have already spent on him, to decide that he won't actually
> be that stupid again so no point in sacking him.

And what will he do next time be perceives disrespect of cop? He clearly
lacks the judgement to be a police officer.

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>>> Phil Allison wrote
>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote

>>>>>> Increasingly so,they have many restrictions now in NSW no pit
>>>>>> maneuvers
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas in good ol' USA, using a pit manoeuvrer on a driver who
>>>>> represents no threat and is not showing signs of attempting to flee,
>>>>> is
>>>>> not enough to get an officer fired.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0-S041_DtM
>>>>>
>>>> ** One officer, one state ( Arkansas) and only incident like it on
>>>> u-tube.
>>>> The lady driver needed to slow to under 30mph to make her intention
>>>> to stop clear.
>>>> ..... Phil
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the officer had been fired, I wouldn't have considered it worthy of
>>> comment. It's the fact that he still has his job that makes it
>>> significant.

>> They might just have enough of a clue, unlike you, to realise
>> that it makes more sense given the high cost of training they
>> have already spent on him, to decide that he won't actually
>> be that stupid again so no point in sacking him.

> And what will he do next time be perceives disrespect of cop?

Bet he isn't stupid enough to do it again, given the massive
shit fight it produced when he did it the first time.

Wanna bet on whether is is that stupid again ?

> He clearly lacks the judgement to be a police officer.

In your stupid opinion. His employer clearly feels otherwise.

Stupider than ANYONE Else wrote:
============================
>
> And what will he do next time be perceives disrespect of cop?
>

** Fucking WOKE BULLSHIT !!!!!

Drivers and others * must respect * what an officer tells them ( or otherwise indicates ) they must do or stop doing.
Criminal offence to disobey an officer.
FFS don't you even know that ?

> He clearly lacks the judgement to be a police officer.

** While Sylvia lakes ANY kind of judgement in ANY matter.

BTW

Starting a comment with "clearly " is a 100% *sure sign* it is not one tiny bit clear.

...... Phil

On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 11:42:21 +1100, Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Stupider than ANYONE Else wrote:
> ============================
>>
>> And what will he do next time be perceives disrespect of cop?
>>
>
> ** Fucking WOKE BULLSHIT !!!!!
>
> Drivers and others * must respect * what an officer tells them ( or
> otherwise indicates ) they must do or stop doing.

> Criminal offence to disobey an officer.

Bullshit it is when you have not committed an offense.

> FFS don't you even know that ?

>> He clearly lacks the judgement to be a police officer.

> While Sylvia lakes ANY kind of judgement in ANY matter.

> BTW

> Starting a comment with "clearly " is a100% *sure sign* it is not
> one tiny bit clear.

More mindless bullshit, your trademark.

Rod Speedbot Robot has no brain wrote:
===================================
>
> > Stupider than ANYONE Else wrote:
> > ============================
> >>
> >> And what will he do next time be perceives disrespect of cop?
> >>
> >
> > ** Fucking WOKE BULLSHIT !!!!!
> >
> > Drivers and others * must respect * what an officer tells them ( or
> > otherwise indicates ) they must do or stop doing.
>
> > Criminal offence to disobey an officer.
>
> Bullshit it is when you have not committed an offense.
>

** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wot a fucking hoot.

....... Phil

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>> And what will he do next time be perceives disrespect of cop?

>>> Fucking WOKE BULLSHIT !!!!!

>>> Drivers and others * must respect * what an officer tells them ( or
>>> otherwise indicates ) they must do or stop doing.

>>> Criminal offence to disobey an officer.

>> Bullshit it is when you have not committed an offense.

> ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> Wot a fucking hoot.

Yep, that's always true of your pig ignorant shit.

If some cop tells you you must go home, and you don't
do that, you have not committed a criminal offense,
you pig ignorant completely unemployable dole bludger.

Rodbot totally anencephalic Speedbot wrote:

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Sylvia the nutter
----------
> >>>> And what will he do next time be perceives disrespect of cop?
>>
> >>> Fucking WOKE BULLSHIT !!!!!
>
> >>> Drivers and others * must respect * what an officer tells them ( or
> >>> otherwise indicates ) they must do or stop doing.
>
> >>> Criminal offence to disobey an officer.
>
> >> Bullshit it is when you have not committed an offense.
>
> > ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > Wot a fucking hoot.

> If some cop tells you you must go home,

** Absurd, fabricated Rodbot faeces.

...... Phil

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> spewed
the shit it always ends up with when it has got
done like a fucking dinner, as it always is.

On 27/2/22 16:00, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 15:37:20 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 25/2/22 10:01, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>> On 25-Feb-22 5:10 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-24/sydney-man-jailed-for-crash-that-killed-teenage-brothers/100856996>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I wonder what legal advice he got.
>>>>
>>>> Certainly from someone who knows a lot more about the law than you do.
>>>>
>>>>> Since he pleaded guilty, any appeal  can only be over the sentence.
>>>>
>>>>> I have some difficulty understanding how he was guilty of negligent
>>>>> driving occasioning death and negligent driving occasioning
>>>>> grievous harm, since in both cases, it was the driver of the stolen
>>>>> car who chose to attempt a roundabout at 150km/h.
>>>>
>>>> He clearly must have been doing the same speed, fool.
>>>  So what? Charge him with speeding then.
>>>  The issue here is not whether he was breaking the law, but whether
>>> he caused the deaths and injuries.
>>>
>>>> 7
>>>>> Granted, the driver wouldn't driven that fast if the accused hadn't
>>>>> been behind them, but he wouldn't have been there if his car hadn't
>>>>> been stolen.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not aware of any police being found guilty of such an offence
>>>>> when a chase ends badly.
>>>>
>>>> Corse not, because they are allowed to persue stolen vehicles at
>>>> well over the speed limit, fool.
>>>  The police have some exemptions. It's not carte blanche.
>>>  http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/rr2014104/s305.html
>>>   Sylvia
>
>> Increasingly so,they have many restrictions now in NSW no pit
>> maneuvers,almost no high speed chases,
>
> Those aren't the law.
maybe not but NSW highway patrol have instructions and get into trouble
with high speed chases, If you know any highway patrol officers ask them
about high speed chase restrictions

>
>> the bloke next door does not even bother with very high speed going
>> the other way any more because the speeds required after doing u turn
>> are not allowed now
>
> And neither is that.

F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Sylvia Else wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote

>>>>>> <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-02-24/sydney-man-jailed-for-crash-that-killed-teenage-brothers/100856996>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder what legal advice he got.
>>>>>
>>>>> Certainly from someone who knows a lot more about the law than you
>>>>> do.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Since he pleaded guilty, any appeal can only be over the sentence.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have some difficulty understanding how he was guilty of negligent
>>>>>> driving occasioning death and negligent driving occasioning
>>>>>> grievous harm, since in both cases, it was the driver of the stolen
>>>>>> car who chose to attempt a roundabout at 150km/h.
>>>>>
>>>>> He clearly must have been doing the same speed, fool.
>>>> So what? Charge him with speeding then.
>>>> The issue here is not whether he was breaking the law, but whether
>>>> he caused the deaths and injuries.
>>>>
>>>>> 7
>>>>>> Granted, the driver wouldn't driven that fast if the accused hadn't
>>>>>> been behind them, but he wouldn't have been there if his car hadn't
>>>>>> been stolen.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not aware of any police being found guilty of such an offence
>>>>>> when a chase ends badly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Corse not, because they are allowed to persue stolen vehicles at
>>>>> well over the speed limit, fool.
>>>> The police have some exemptions. It's not carte blanche.
>>>> http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/nsw/consol_reg/rr2014104/s305.html
>>>> Sylvia

>>> Increasingly so,they have many restrictions now inNSW no pit
>>> maneuvers,almost no high speed chases,

That last is mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

>> Those aren't the law.

> maybe not

No maybe about it.

> but NSW highway patrol have instructions and get into trouble with high
> speed chases, If you know any highway patrol officersask them about
> high speed chase restrictions

Irrelevant to whether it's the law or not.

>>> the bloke next door does not even bother with very high speed going
>>> the other way any more because the speeds required after doing u turn
>>> are not allowed now

>> And neither is that.