260023, 22842th prime number

24822-22842=1980

1980/99=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs41p1Zfa4M

*Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
steering wheel | The World*
/ABC News (Australia)/
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>

"A former top aide in the White House has detailed Donald Trump's
relentless efforts to join protesters at the capitol on the day of the
riots. In a surprise hearing, Cassidy Hutchinson provided 'damning'
testimony to the US capitol riot committee, outlining that Mr Trump knew
some in the crowd were armed. The Hill's Julia Manchester tells The
World it's been "a shock" to many in Washington hearing how things
played out behind the scenes."

~~~~

And yet MAGA Trumpism is still much alive and well in all levels of US
governments, law enforcement and the judiciary ... with or without Trump
at the the helm.
On the second thought...was he truly ever at the helm or rather were
very powerful people in the shadows around him steering this bumbling
intellectually deficient idiot all along to serve their own plutocratic
corporate capitalist political ends.

More than ever it has become a certainty that Trump was (and still is) a
political/cultural symptom of a sick, decaying, out of wack and totally
far-right shifted society that is incapable of shaking off the social
rot that GOP/Trumpism/MAGA represents.

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 08:38:14 +1000, Ördög
<newsgroup.devil@hell.incorporated.biz> wrote:

> *Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
> steering wheel | The World*
> /ABC News (Australia)/
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>
>
> "A former top aide in the White House has detailed Donald Trump's
> relentless efforts to join protesters at the capitol on the day of the
> riots. In a surprise hearing, Cassidy Hutchinson provided 'damning'
> testimony to the US capitol riot committee, outlining that Mr Trump knew
> some in the crowd were armed. The Hill's Julia Manchester tells The
> World it's been "a shock" to many in Washington hearing how things
> played out behind the scenes."
>
> ~~~~
>
> And yet MAGA Trumpism is still much alive and well in all levels of US
> governments, law enforcement and the judiciary ... with or without Trump
> at the the helm.

He still is at the helm of the republican party, deciding who gets
to be repug candidates in the mid terms and stuff like that.

> On the second thought...was he truly ever at the helm

Yep, he really did hijack the republican party.

> or rather were very powerful people in the shadows around him steering
> this bumbling intellectually deficient idiot all along to serve their
> own plutocratic corporate capitalist political ends.

Mindless conspiracy theory. He managed to hijack the replublican
party, you have never managed anything like that.

> More than ever it has become a certainty that Trump was (and still is) a
> political/cultural symptom of a sick, decaying, out of wack and totally
> far-right shifted society that is incapable of shaking off the social
> rot that GOP/Trumpism/MAGA represents.

What actually happened is that half those who bothered to vote
had noticed how the system had fucked them over and who were
prepared to see if Trump could do any better. And hardly any of
them decided that he couldn't, they got even more voting for him
in the second election. Their problem is that even more dem voters
got off their lard arses and voted for Biden and so Biden got the job.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 08:38:14 +1000, Ördög
<newsgroup.devil@Hell.Incorporated.biz> wrote:

>*Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
>steering wheel | The World*
>/ABC News (Australia)/
><https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>
>
Found to be lying crap.
Here is the true story
https://youtu.be/PRAZL3LX6K4
--
Petzl
Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no
murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to
shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different

"Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism
paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating
different!.

144

On 28/06/2022 3:03 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 00:52:48 +1000, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
>
>> On 27/06/2022 2:35 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 10:46:11 +1000, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26/06/2022 6:21 pm, Fran wrote:
>>>>> On 26/06/2022 12:50 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 11:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:59 am, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:49 am, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well, it didn't take the fundies long to crawl out of the
>>>>>>>>> shandows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Abortion should be banned - it is killing an unborn child.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And some clueless males who post on usenet are proof of the need
>>>>>>> for retrospective abortion to be allowed to be applied......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. The day before a woman gives birth, what is in her uterus is a
>>>>>> human life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. On any day, if what's in the woman's uterus is a human life,
>>>>>> then the day before it is also a human life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Therefore, for all days of the pregnancy, what is the in the
>>>>>> woman's uterus is a human life.
>>>>>  If a fetus can't survive on it's own outside the uterus, it's just
>>>>> a bunch of cells.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would have to be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
>>>> A baby can't survive outside of the uterus either as has already
>>>> been pointed out.
>>>>
>>>> I think the issue isn't black and white. I don't think abortions are
>>>> something that should be performed after a certain time (5 months is
>>>> unreasonable for instance)
>>>
>>>> but at the same time they should absolutely  be allowedin cases of
>>>> rape and incest etc. early on in the pregnancy.
>>>  Why should that child be killed when it had no say in itw creation ?
>>
>>
>> I get your point but it's a murky grey area sometimes.
>
> No it isnt. The unborn child got no say on how it was created
> and it makes no sense to kill it.

Technically you are right.

--
keith on the 7 Oct 2021 wrote;
"He asserts that the claim is true, so, if
it is unproven, he is lying."

On 28/06/2022 8:17 am, Fran wrote:
> On 28/06/2022 12:51 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 27/06/2022 10:04 am, Fran wrote:
>>> On 27/06/2022 10:46 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 26/06/2022 6:21 pm, Fran wrote:
>>>>> On 26/06/2022 12:50 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 11:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:59 am, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:49 am, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well, it didn't take the fundies long to crawl out of the
>>>>>>>>> shandows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Abortion should be banned - it is killing an unborn child.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And some clueless males who post on usenet are proof of the need
>>>>>>> for retrospective abortion to be allowed to be applied......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. The day before a woman gives birth, what is in her uterus is a
>>>>>> human life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. On any day, if what's in the woman's uterus is a human life,
>>>>>> then the day before it is also a human life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Therefore, for all days of the pregnancy, what is the in the
>>>>>> woman's uterus is a human life.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a fetus can't survive on it's own outside the uterus, it's just
>>>>> a bunch of cells.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would have to be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
>>>> A baby can't survive outside of the uterus either as has already
>>>> been pointed out.
>>>
>>> Yes, Max is indeed very dumb.  He (and you) must be either trolling
>>> or obtuse to be unable to figure out that a fetus that relies on a
>>> placenta for survival and therefore cant' survive on it's own outside
>>> the uterus is nothing more than just a bunch of cells.
>>
>> Tell that to parents that miscarried at 14 weeks that their baby was
>> just a "bunch of cells" you ignorant, insensitive and uneducated dolt.
>
> You're being hysterical and illogical and applying a one size fits all
> soluton to a situation of your fantasising.
>

No you are when you use language like "just a bunch of cells" to
describe a fetus.

It's categorically incorrect at every level, scientifically,
biologically and logically.

If you're so determined to remain ignorant there is nothing I can say to
change your mind. You're not willing to learn and you're not willing to
consider that you're spouting unscientific pig-ignorant nonsense and
have an absolute opinion based on it.

Either get educated or get fucked.

On 30/06/2022 5:29 pm, Clocky wrote:
> On 28/06/2022 8:17 am, Fran wrote:
>> On 28/06/2022 12:51 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 27/06/2022 10:04 am, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 27/06/2022 10:46 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 26/06/2022 6:21 pm, Fran wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 12:50 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 11:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:59 am, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:49 am, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Well, it didn't take the fundies long to crawl out of the
>>>>>>>>>> shandows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Abortion should be banned - it is killing an unborn child.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And some clueless males who post on usenet are proof of the need
>>>>>>>> for retrospective abortion to be allowed to be applied......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. The day before a woman gives birth, what is in her uterus is a
>>>>>>> human life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. On any day, if what's in the woman's uterus is a human life,
>>>>>>> then the day before it is also a human life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Therefore, for all days of the pregnancy, what is the in the
>>>>>>> woman's uterus is a human life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a fetus can't survive on it's own outside the uterus, it's just
>>>>>> a bunch of cells.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That would have to be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
>>>>> A baby can't survive outside of the uterus either as has already
>>>>> been pointed out.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Max is indeed very dumb.  He (and you) must be either trolling
>>>> or obtuse to be unable to figure out that a fetus that relies on a
>>>> placenta for survival and therefore cant' survive on it's own
>>>> outside the uterus is nothing more than just a bunch of cells.
>>>
>>> Tell that to parents that miscarried at 14 weeks that their baby was
>>> just a "bunch of cells" you ignorant, insensitive and uneducated dolt.
>>
>> You're being hysterical and illogical and applying a one size fits all
>> soluton to a situation of your fantasising.
>>
>
> No you are when you use language like "just a bunch of cells" to
> describe a fetus.
>
> It's categorically incorrect at every level, scientifically,
> biologically and logically.
>
> If you're so determined to remain ignorant there is nothing I can say to
> change your mind. You're not willing to learn and you're not willing to
> consider that you're spouting unscientific pig-ignorant nonsense and
> have an absolute opinion based on it.
>
> Either get educated or get fucked.

:-))) Aw diddums. Your failure to be able to form a cogent reply but to
simply continue to be hysterical is noted.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 17:23:04 +1000, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:

> On 28/06/2022 3:03 am, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 00:52:48 +1000, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/06/2022 2:35 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 10:46:11 +1000, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 26/06/2022 6:21 pm, Fran wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 12:50 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 11:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:59 am, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:49 am, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Well, it didn't take the fundies long to crawl out of the
>>>>>>>>>> shandows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Abortion should be banned - it is killing an unborn child.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And some clueless males who post on usenet are proof of the need
>>>>>>>> for retrospective abortion to be allowed to be applied......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. The day before a woman gives birth, what is in her uterus is a
>>>>>>> human life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. On any day, if what's in the woman's uterus is a human life,
>>>>>>> then the day before it is also a human life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Therefore, for all days of the pregnancy, what is the in the
>>>>>>> woman's uterus is a human life.
>>>>>> If a fetus can't survive on it's own outside the uterus, it's just
>>>>>> a bunch of cells.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That would have to be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
>>>>> A baby can't survive outside of the uterus either as has already
>>>>> been pointed out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the issue isn't black and white. I don't think abortions are
>>>>> something that should be performed after a certain time (5 months is
>>>>> unreasonable for instance)
>>>>
>>>>> but at the same time they should absolutely be allowedin cases of
>>>>> rape and incest etc. early on in the pregnancy.
>>>> Why should that child be killed when it had no say in itw creation ?
>>>
>>>
>>> I get your point but it's a murky grey area sometimes.
>> No it isnt. The unborn child got no say on how it was created
>> and it makes no sense to kill it.
>
> Technically you are right.

There is no technically about it.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 15:29:46 +0800, Clocky <notgonna@happen.com>
wrote:

>On 28/06/2022 8:17 am, Fran wrote:
>> On 28/06/2022 12:51 am, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 27/06/2022 10:04 am, Fran wrote:
>>>> On 27/06/2022 10:46 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 26/06/2022 6:21 pm, Fran wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 12:50 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 11:58 am, Fran wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:59 am, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:49 am, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Well, it didn't take the fundies long to crawl out of the
>>>>>>>>>> shandows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Abortion should be banned - it is killing an unborn child.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And some clueless males who post on usenet are proof of the need
>>>>>>>> for retrospective abortion to be allowed to be applied......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. The day before a woman gives birth, what is in her uterus is a
>>>>>>> human life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. On any day, if what's in the woman's uterus is a human life,
>>>>>>> then the day before it is also a human life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Therefore, for all days of the pregnancy, what is the in the
>>>>>>> woman's uterus is a human life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a fetus can't survive on it's own outside the uterus, it's just
>>>>>> a bunch of cells.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That would have to be one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.
>>>>> A baby can't survive outside of the uterus either as has already
>>>>> been pointed out.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Max is indeed very dumb.  He (and you) must be either trolling
>>>> or obtuse to be unable to figure out that a fetus that relies on a
>>>> placenta for survival and therefore cant' survive on it's own outside
>>>> the uterus is nothing more than just a bunch of cells.
>>>
>>> Tell that to parents that miscarried at 14 weeks that their baby was
>>> just a "bunch of cells" you ignorant, insensitive and uneducated dolt.
>>
>> You're being hysterical and illogical and applying a one size fits all
>> soluton to a situation of your fantasising.
>>
>
>No you are when you use language like "just a bunch of cells" to
>describe a fetus.
>
>It's categorically incorrect at every level, scientifically,
>biologically and logically.
>
>If you're so determined to remain ignorant there is nothing I can say to
>change your mind. You're not willing to learn and you're not willing to
>consider that you're spouting unscientific pig-ignorant nonsense and
>have an absolute opinion based on it.
>
>Either get educated or get fucked.
>
Fran is the "best" septic in this group
(head so full of media shit she knows nothing)
--
Petzl
New South Wales health minister Brad Hazzard, Pro-Abortionist!
Should be the one to lance the fetus larynx so no-one can hear the unborn scream.
Most do not know this is part of the abortion "procedure"

Fran wrote:

> Clocky wrote:

/snip/
>> No you are when you use language like "just a bunch of cells" to
>> describe a fetus.

There is a lengthy 9 months development starting from a zygote to an
embryo to a fetus to a viable a birth ready infant human. Clearly at the
early stage of pregnancy talking about a bunch of cells with a possible
potential to develop further into a an embryo and then into a fetus is
quite correct.

The (sadly) frequent occurrence of natural (i.e. no external influence
whatsoever) of that bunch of cell not developing as expected but
naturally aborting itself (aka miscarriage) shows that emotively
bullshitting up the status of that bunch of cells for clear political
reasons has nothing to do with biology nor science.

>>
>> It's categorically incorrect at every level, scientifically,
>> biologically and logically.

Typical logical fallacy (kind of an appeal to authority).
Even those who clearly do not consider themselves to be adhering to
religion have swallowed that fundamentalist position over time.
Bullshit propaganda works.
To be clear, these are also the very same individuals who disregard
women's autonomy over their own bodies and lives.

>> there is nothing I can say to change your mind.

Obviously!

>> spouting unscientific pig-ignorant
>> nonsense and have an absolute opinion based on it.

YAWN! PKB

>> Either get educated or get fucked.

What a great argument...NOT!
Why don't you drop just dead? Would be no great loss for society!
>
> :-))) Aw diddums.  Your failure to be able to form a cogent reply but to
> simply continue to be hysterical is noted.
>

Yes. He puts forward to a fallacious pretend scientific argument in
support of this fundamentalist hard core conservative position over
women's basic rights.

I wonder if he would also be willing to support what some religious
nutjob politicians in the US demand: Death penalty for abortion
providers, death penalty for women who use such services and an eventual
total ban on birth control in any shape and form.

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

Petz, the reigning "village idiot" of aus.politics:

/snip
> Fran is the "best" septic in this group

Alas the village idiot has no idea what "septic" in aus.politics usage
means.

> (head so full of media shit she knows nothing)

Of course, Petz is a typical semi-literate religious fundy alt-right
creep who feeds on cyber sewers media trash, which he digs up from
alt-right septic cesspits all over the darkest corners of the Net.

Alas stop projecting so pathetically, Petz dear. Given your past record
in this newsgroups clearly shows to all readers who they are dealing
with when looking at regularly plagiarized septic crap you keep on
posting here.

Your idiot sig proves that without any doubt. There is no functional
larynx in a fetus until birth, specially if it is still at an early
embryo stage. You (and loony ilk) clearly have zero knowledge of the 9
months development stages of a human from zygote to an newborn.

Moreover there is there NO air inside the womb nor is there respiration.
Talking shit is your special trademark, Petz dear. Sigh!

--
The ever present and ever vigilant newsgroup devil at your service.

Petz

> Ördög
>
>> *Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
>> steering wheel | The World*
>> /ABC News (Australia)/
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>
>>
> Found to be lying crap.

Nope! The article was based on a number of public testimonies given
under oath to the Committee investigating the MAGA riot in the Capitol.

Your confuse Trump cultist wishful thinking with factual reality.

> Here is the true story
> https://youtu.be/never-click-on-any-Petz-link

Typical Petz post: MAGA-Septic bullshit in---MAGA-Septic bullshit out.

BTW:
Your idiot sig was immediately flushed without even looking at it.

--
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On 1/07/2022 10:12 am, Ördög wrote:
> Fran wrote:
>
>> Clocky wrote:
>
> /snip/
>>> No you are when you use language like "just a bunch of cells" to
>>> describe a fetus.
>
> There is a lengthy 9 months development starting from a zygote to an
> embryo to a fetus to a viable a birth ready infant human. Clearly at the
> early stage of pregnancy talking about a bunch of cells with a possible
> potential to develop further into a an embryo and then into a fetus is
> quite correct.
>
> The (sadly) frequent occurrence of natural (i.e. no external influence
> whatsoever) of that bunch of cell not developing as expected but
> naturally aborting itself (aka miscarriage) shows that emotively
> bullshitting up the status of that bunch of cells for clear political
> reasons has nothing to do with biology nor science.

:-)) Indeed.
>
>>>
>>> It's categorically incorrect at every level, scientifically,
>>> biologically and logically.
>
> Typical logical fallacy (kind of an appeal to authority).
> Even those who clearly do not consider themselves to be adhering to
> religion have swallowed that fundamentalist position over time.
> Bullshit propaganda works.
> To be clear, these are also the very same individuals who disregard
> women's autonomy over their own bodies and lives.
>
>>> there is nothing I can say to change your mind.
>
> Obviously!
>
>>> spouting unscientific pig-ignorant nonsense and have an absolute
>>> opinion based on it.
>
> YAWN! PKB
>
>>> Either get educated or get fucked.
>
> What a great argument...NOT!
> Why don't you drop just dead? Would be no great loss for society!

And at least we'd be spared his hysteria.
>>
>> :-))) Aw diddums.  Your failure to be able to form a cogent reply but
>> to simply continue to be hysterical is noted.
>>
>
> Yes. He puts forward to a fallacious pretend scientific argument in
> support of this fundamentalist hard core conservative position over
> women's basic rights.
>
> I wonder if he would also be willing to support what some religious
> nutjob politicians in the US demand: Death penalty for abortion
> providers, death penalty for women who use such services and an eventual
> total ban on birth control in any shape and form.

LOL. You naughty Devil!

On 1/07/2022 10:37 am, Ördög wrote:
> Petz, the reigning "village idiot" of aus.politics:
>
> /snip
>> Fran is the "best" septic in this group

LOL.

> Alas the village idiot has no idea what "septic" in aus.politics usage
> means.

Indeed. Our pretzel takes the Blue Ribbon for being the biggest moron
on this or any other newsgroup. >
> > (head so full of media shit she knows nothing)
>
> Of course, Petz is a typical semi-literate religious fundy alt-right
> creep who feeds on cyber sewers media trash, which he digs up from
> alt-right septic cesspits all over the darkest corners of the Net.

I think you are being overly complimentary in that assessment of the
abilities and posting history of our resident village idiot.
>
> Alas stop projecting so pathetically, Petz dear. Given your past record
> in this newsgroups clearly shows to all readers who they are dealing
> with when looking at regularly plagiarized septic crap you keep on
> posting here.
>
> Your idiot sig proves that without any doubt. There is no functional
> larynx in a fetus until birth, specially if it is still at an early
> embryo stage. You (and loony ilk) clearly have zero knowledge of the 9
> months development stages of a human from zygote to an newborn.

LOL. Now I almost wish I could read what particular idiot commentary
our idiot has posted.
>
> Moreover there is there NO air inside the womb nor is there respiration.
> Talking shit is your special trademark, Petz dear. Sigh!
>

On 1/07/2022 10:46 am, Ördög wrote:
> Petz
>
>> Ördög
>>
>>> *Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
>>> steering wheel | The World*
>>> /ABC News (Australia)/
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>
>>>
>> Found to be lying crap.
>
> Nope! The article was based on a number of public testimonies given
> under oath to the Committee investigating the MAGA riot in the Capitol.

Indeed the testimony was NOT found to be lying crap. Trump
Admnistration (ie a Republican staffer and a WH staff member) support
what she says:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQmXcIipr8M

> Your confuse Trump cultist wishful thinking with factual reality.

Yep. And our resident village idiot hasn't managed to find out that
Trump advisers soughtto be put on Trump's pardon list. But then our
resident village idiot wouldn't understand the signifcance of such a
list.
>
>> Here is the true story
>> https://youtu.be/never-click-on-any-Petz-link
>
> Typical Petz post: MAGA-Septic bullshit in---MAGA-Septic bullshit out.
>
> BTW:
> Your idiot sig was immediately flushed without even looking at it.
>

On SBS catchup/iview- good Danish drama on politics.

Fran <gettingmoredelusionalbythedayistheforger@nutcasewannabefran.com>
wrote:

> On SBS catchup/iview- good Danish drama on politics.

Fuck subtitled anything.

On 30/06/2022 8:38 am, Ördög wrote:
> *Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
> steering wheel | The World*
> /ABC News (Australia)/
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>
>
> "A former top aide in the White House has detailed Donald Trump's
> relentless efforts to join protesters at the capitol on the day of the
> riots. In a surprise hearing, Cassidy Hutchinson provided 'damning'
> testimony to the US capitol riot committee, outlining that Mr Trump knew
> some in the crowd were armed. The Hill's Julia Manchester tells The
> World it's been "a shock" to many in Washington hearing how things
> played out behind the scenes."
>
> ~~~~
>
> And yet MAGA Trumpism is still much alive and well in all levels of US
> governments, law enforcement and the judiciary ... with or without Trump
> at the the helm.
> On the second thought...was he truly ever at the helm  or rather were
> very powerful people in the shadows around him steering this bumbling
> intellectually deficient idiot all along to serve their own plutocratic
> corporate capitalist political ends.
>
> More than ever it has become a certainty that Trump was (and still is) a
> political/cultural symptom of a sick, decaying, out of wack and totally
> far-right shifted society that is incapable of shaking off the social
> rot that GOP/Trumpism/MAGA represents.
>
>

**It's about to get worse for the US (and the rest of us):

https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2022/06/30/shock-doctrine-the-u-s-supreme-court-has-declared-war-on-humanity/

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Fran wrote:
> On SBS catchup/iview- good Danish drama on politics.

SBS also had The Minister (from Iceland) a year or 2 back;
was a pretty good take on Nordic politics.

Trevor Wilson wrote:
>
> **It's about to get worse for the US (and the rest of us):
>
> https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2022/06/30/shock-doctrine-the-u-s-supreme-court-has-declared-war-on-humanity/
>
>

Interesting case coming up soon about gerrymandering in North Carolina.
It seems 4 conservative judges think the states should be able to decide
anything to do with voting. Could open the door for red states to swing
the 2024 election.

On Fri, 01 Jul 2022 19:02:22 +1000, Trevor Wilson
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> On 30/06/2022 8:38 am, Ördög wrote:
>> *Aide says Trump wanted to join Capitol riot, tried to grab limo
>> steering wheel | The World*
>> /ABC News (Australia)/
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W67QFTMsPE>
>> "A former top aide in the White House has detailed Donald Trump's
>> relentless efforts to join protesters at the capitol on the day of the
>> riots. In a surprise hearing, Cassidy Hutchinson provided 'damning'
>> testimony to the US capitol riot committee, outlining that Mr Trump
>> knew some in the crowd were armed. The Hill's Julia Manchester tells
>> The World it's been "a shock" to many in Washington hearing how things
>> played out behind the scenes."
>> ~~~~
>> And yet MAGA Trumpism is still much alive and well in all levels of US
>> governments, law enforcement and the judiciary ... with or without
>> Trump at the the helm.
>> On the second thought...was he truly ever at the helm or rather were
>> very powerful people in the shadows around him steering this bumbling
>> intellectually deficient idiot all along to serve their own plutocratic
>> corporate capitalist political ends.
>> More than ever it has become a certainty that Trump was (and still is)
>> a political/cultural symptom of a sick, decaying, out of wack and
>> totally far-right shifted society that is incapable of shaking off the
>> social rot that GOP/Trumpism/MAGA represents.

> It's about to get worse for the US

Bullshit.

> (and the rest of us):

Even more mindless bullshit.

> https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2022/06/30/shock-doctrine-the-u-s-supreme-court-has-declared-war-on-humanity/

Just because some fool claims somethihng...

On 28/06/2022 10:29 am, Fran wrote:
> On 28/06/2022 1:02 am, Clocky wrote:
>> On 27/06/2022 10:08 am, Fran wrote:
>>> On 27/06/2022 11:02 am, Clocky wrote:
>>>> On 27/06/2022 4:27 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 26/06/2022 8:14 pm, Max wrote:
>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 7:31 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:59 am, Max wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 26/06/2022 10:49 am, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Well, it didn't take the fundies long to crawl out of the
>>>>>>>>> shandows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Abortion should be banned - it is killing an unborn child.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **Dunno about you, but, as a male, I have no right to tell a
>>>>>>> woman what she may do with HER body. You should realise that
>>>>>>> giving birth is one of the most deadly acts a woman can engage in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/mothers-babies/maternal-deaths-in-australia/contents/maternal-deaths-in-australia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In any case, I fully respect a woman's right not to have an
>>>>>>> abortion, if she wishes. Likewise, I respect a woman's right to
>>>>>>> have a safe abortion, should she wish.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And again: Assuming you are a male, then you can stick your
>>>>>>> opinion where the Sun don't shine. This is a woman's choice, not
>>>>>>> a male's. If a woman chooses not to engage in the potentially
>>>>>>> deadly act of giving birth, then she should be supported for her
>>>>>>> choice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the rights of the unborn child?  When do they get a say
>>>>>> in what happens?
>>>>>
>>>>> **I will say once more:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are a male, then stick your opinions up your arse. This is a
>>>>> matter for women. The foetus cannot survive without a woman.
>>>>> Therefore, it is part of a woman's body. Therefore, it is a WOMAN'S
>>>>> choice. Not your and not mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not an 'unborn child'. It is a foetus. It is a WOMAN'S choice.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not against abortions within reason but your arguments are stupid.
>>>
>>> Are they?  Explain how a fetus can survive without a woman's body?
>>
>> It's irrelevant and that argument relies on the false premise that the
>> fetus is part of the woman.
>
> That is just a bullshit strawman.  MY  'premise' (as opposed to your
> strawman claim) is that survival of the fetus depends on the placenta!
>
> It's not. Scientifically, logically and
>> biologically the fetus is growing inside of the woman but not part of
>> the woman...
>
> Yawn.  You're answering your own strawman and not anything I wrote
>
> in spades because the genetic code of a fetus is unique,
>> not *shared* with the woman as it would be if the fetus was part of
>> the woman.
>
> More strawman answering on your part......
>
>> This is an undisputed scientific and biological fact.
>
> So?  Who, other than you, (and that idiot Max who clearly has no idea
> about human DNA) even mentioned DNA of the fetus.
>

Are you seriously disputing the fact that a fetus has human DNA and a
tumor does not?

>>> Explain why any male has any logical, scientific or biological say in
>>> what decisions a woman makes about whether she carries a fetus to term?
>>>
>>
>> Without the male there wouldn't be a fetus. And see above.
>
> So do explain how a male can get the fetus to term without a woman's
> body being involved?

Fran wrote on 28/6/22 10:48 am:

<Snip>

> :-))  Just be thankful not to own poor Roddles addled brain.  He (maybe)
> knows what he means but he's not letting the rest of us in on it.

Oh, come on, Fran. Rod always knows exactly what he means ...... it's
just we poor mortals who have trouble making any sense of what he
types!! ;-P
--
Daniel