On 17/12/2021 19:21, Java Jive wrote:
> On 17/12/2021 10:42, Spike wrote:

>> You really aren't familiar with the technique of weasel-wording, or the
>> ability of an institute to over-egg the cake in order to improve
>> funding, recognition, prestige, honours, etc etc.

> I'm completely familiar with it because you do it all the time in a
> pathetic attempt to cover up your total lack of logical argument and
> scientific knowledge.

You might be /familiar/ with the technique of weasel-wording, but you
don't seem to be able to /recognise it/, even if it occurs several times
in a short paragraph.

>> It's not something you learn in S101.

> But apparently something you learn in the realm of contemporary dance.
> How's 'Denialism By Dance' coming on, found a theatre to take it yet?

The Laotian discovery is of mild interest but very little relevance to
the Wuhan case.

Any /real/ evidence to offer? Thought not.

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On 17/12/2021 19:14, Java Jive wrote:
> On 17/12/2021 10:41, Spike wrote:
>> On 17/12/2021 10:04, Java Jive wrote:

>>> So if China's aim was to produce a military bio-weapon in a civilian
>>> lab, why are we all still alive?

>> We aren't. We're dying by the million from the virus. Do keep up.

> But some of the people who have died have been Chinese, and many people
> haven't died, so why are we still alive?

> Do keep up!

How fast do you want us to be killed off, then?

Do keep up.

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In article <spk5jn$fmv$2@dont-email.me>,
Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 18/12/2021 07:23, williamwright wrote:
> > On 17/12/2021 20:13, Pamela wrote:
> >> Proving China has lied about something doesn't seem to embarass them into
> >> making changes.
> >
> > This a is general problem with foreigners.
> >
> > Bill

> Is Boris a foreigner?

A good question and I can see why you ask. :-)

Bob.

On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 21:00:35 +0000, Indy Jess John
<bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:

>That doesn't alter the fact that it would have worked as a biological
>weapon useful outside China if its delivery had been properly timed and
>controlled. The lack of symptoms for some days while an infected person
>is able to pass the virus on to others makes the actual delivery almost
>impossible to detect, and the person chosen for the role doesn't even
>need to know they are the carrier.

Concepts like this have been explored in science fiction for many
years. I recall reading a particularly chilling one (Can't remember
the title or author unfortunately) in which the central character was
a security man assigned the duty of protecting some bigwig at some
prestigious event, which would of course require him to get close to
the protectee. Except that he wasn't; he was a robot bomb programmed
not to know that he was a robot or a bomb. Different death mechanism,
but same basic idea. One day we'll be able to do this for real. Maybe
we already can. Isn't technology wonderful?

Rod.

On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 08:20:07 +0000, Jeff Layman
<jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 18/12/2021 07:23, williamwright wrote:
>> On 17/12/2021 20:13, Pamela wrote:
>>> Proving China has lied about something doesn't seem to embarass them into
>>> making changes.
>>
>> This a is general problem with foreigners.
>>
>> Bill
>
>Is Boris a foreigner?

He seems to be a foreigner to rational thought, or honesty.

Rod.

In article <cm9rrgteusrh6ga3rqog4684fnu1cbajiq@4ax.com>,
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> He seems to be a foreigner to rational thought, or honesty.

+1

Bob.

In article <j23573Fl6mnU1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:

> The Soviet plan was to fly their Tu-95 bombers at 500' above the British
> cities, dropping cluster bombs containing modified versions of plague,
> anthrax, and haemorrhagic fever.

It is fairly normal for the military of many countries to have a range of
'plans' for all kinds of actions and responses for "what if" situations.

That doesn't mean they will all be implimented. They are generated partly
"just in case" and partly to assess what *might* be decided as the reaction to
some potential circumstances where other 'plans' aren't the sensible ones to
choose.

Hence many such 'plans' just sit in files with no-one ever intending to make
use of them.

Jim

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In article <spitv9$f81$1@dont-email.me>, Indy Jess John
<bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:
> The only effective weapon would be a financial one - stopping all new
> contracts with China would starve them of funds and make most of their
> factories redundant. Unfortunately, too many countries around the world
> want cheap goods.

Including the UK. In large part due to Government policies that allow UK
businesses to be bought up and often become little more than brand names or
conduits for Chinese-made things whilst the profits and jobs get taken
abroad. Often dodging tax as they go.

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In article <a09rrgptdcp2pkd1s3ibs7s2ailgb46ree@4ax.com>, Roderick Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> Except that he wasn't; he was a robot bomb programmed not to know that
> he was a robot or a bomb. Different death mechanism, but same basic
> idea. One day we'll be able to do this for real. Maybe we already can.
> Isn't technology wonderful?

No need for man-sized. Something the size of a robot bee would do the job
now.

Jim

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On 08:20 18 Dec 2021, Jeff Layman said:

> On 18/12/2021 07:23, williamwright wrote:
>> On 17/12/2021 20:13, Pamela wrote:
>>> Proving China has lied about something doesn't seem to embarass
>>> them into making changes.
>>
>> This a is general problem with foreigners.
>>
>> Bill
>
> Is Boris a foreigner?
>

Turkish ancestry?

On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 10:18:39 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
<noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <a09rrgptdcp2pkd1s3ibs7s2ailgb46ree@4ax.com>, Roderick Stewart
><rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> Except that he wasn't; he was a robot bomb programmed not to know that
>> he was a robot or a bomb. Different death mechanism, but same basic
>> idea. One day we'll be able to do this for real. Maybe we already can.
>> Isn't technology wonderful?
>
>No need for man-sized. Something the size of a robot bee would do the job
>now.
>
>Jim

True, but there would be no need to conceal the nature of its mission
from the bee. It would just be a machine programmed to do something
and it would do it. The thing I found intriguing about the story was
the existential nature of a machine having sufficient complexity to be
self-aware and to think about what it was doing, but to have a
destructive mission that it was unaware of itself. It might be
possible to contrive some sort of defence against robot bees because
they don't look like people, and a suitable mechanism could presumably
tell the difference, but a robot that looks like a security man would
be a lot more difficult to detect.

The next question is, if a human being could be programmed in this
way, i.e. not to know their true purpose, how could you ever detect
them until it was too late, and where would the blame lie?

Rod.

On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:07:11 GMT, Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 08:20 18 Dec 2021, Jeff Layman said:
>
>> On 18/12/2021 07:23, williamwright wrote:
>>> On 17/12/2021 20:13, Pamela wrote:
>>>> Proving China has lied about something doesn't seem to embarass
>>>> them into making changes.
>>>
>>> This a is general problem with foreigners.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> Is Boris a foreigner?
>>
>
>Turkish ancestry?

Difficult to tell if it's a problem unless you know where somebody has
pinned their primary allegiance. It's not nationality or ancestry for
everyone. Some people have personal philosophies based on ideas.

For example, I happen to know that my ancestry is 100% Scottish for at
least six generations back (because I had an uncle who traced our
family tree as a hobby), but I have no animosity towards any English
people on account of the highland clearances. I may be technically a
foreigner of sorts because I live in England, but nobody need consider
me a danger to anybody.

Rod.

On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 13:28:15 +0000, Roderick Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:07:11 GMT, Pamela
><pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 08:20 18 Dec 2021, Jeff Layman said:
>>
>>> On 18/12/2021 07:23, williamwright wrote:
>>>> On 17/12/2021 20:13, Pamela wrote:
>>>>> Proving China has lied about something doesn't seem to embarass
>>>>> them into making changes.
>>>>
>>>> This a is general problem with foreigners.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Is Boris a foreigner?
>>>
>>
>>Turkish ancestry?
>
>Difficult to tell if it's a problem unless you know where somebody has
>pinned their primary allegiance. It's not nationality or ancestry for
>everyone. Some people have personal philosophies based on ideas.
>
>For example, I happen to know that my ancestry is 100% Scottish for at
>least six generations back (because I had an uncle who traced our
>family tree as a hobby), but I have no animosity towards any English
>people on account of the highland clearances. I may be technically a
>foreigner of sorts because I live in England, but nobody need consider
>me a danger to anybody.
>

Unless of course you have been programmed to be a danger to someone
but, you don't know. ;-)

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On 05:24 17 Dec 2021, williamwright said:
> On 16/12/2021 16:31, Pamela wrote:
>>
>> How does it make any difference if a lab was involved in the creation
>> of Covid rather than natural events? Is there perhaps a wider
>> political battle in the debate, whose presence has gone over my
>> head?
>
> Well yeah because it's more evidence that China is out to dominate the
> world. And they really are.
>
> Bill

We already know China is aiming at world domination.

Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05:24 17 Dec 2021, williamwright said:
>> On 16/12/2021 16:31, Pamela wrote:
>>>
>>> How does it make any difference if a lab was involved in the creation
>>> of Covid rather than natural events? Is there perhaps a wider
>>> political battle in the debate, whose presence has gone over my
>>> head?
>>
>> Well yeah because it's more evidence that China is out to dominate the
>> world. And they really are.
>>
>> Bill
>
> We already know China is aiming at world domination.
>

Or maybe they just see it as gaining their rightful place in the world.

On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 15:43:34 +0000, BrightsideS9
<reply_to_address_is_not@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 13:28:15 +0000, Roderick Stewart
><rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:07:11 GMT, Pamela
>><pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 08:20 18 Dec 2021, Jeff Layman said:
>>>
>>>> On 18/12/2021 07:23, williamwright wrote:
>>>>> On 17/12/2021 20:13, Pamela wrote:
>>>>>> Proving China has lied about something doesn't seem to embarass
>>>>>> them into making changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> This a is general problem with foreigners.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> Is Boris a foreigner?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Turkish ancestry?
>>
>>Difficult to tell if it's a problem unless you know where somebody has
>>pinned their primary allegiance. It's not nationality or ancestry for
>>everyone. Some people have personal philosophies based on ideas.
>>
>>For example, I happen to know that my ancestry is 100% Scottish for at
>>least six generations back (because I had an uncle who traced our
>>family tree as a hobby), but I have no animosity towards any English
>>people on account of the highland clearances. I may be technically a
>>foreigner of sorts because I live in England, but nobody need consider
>>me a danger to anybody.
>>
>
> Unless of course you have been programmed to be a danger to someone
>but, you don't know. ;-)

Oh dear. Perhaps I should be worried. :-)

Rod.

In article <XnsAE04A2954D70137B93@144.76.35.252>, Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

> We already know China is aiming at world domination.

That might be said of a few other countries, and about some doing so in the
past.

Jim

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In article <rpmrrg1hndpo98rrlj789nroqva4dkbilm@4ax.com>, Roderick Stewart
<rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> The next question is, if a human being could be programmed in this way,
> i.e. not to know their true purpose, how could you ever detect them
> until it was too late, and where would the blame lie?

I did watch once about half "The Manchurian Candidate" (I think that was
the title, and not 'Mancunian' 8-]) but got bored so stopped. Maybe that
gives an opinion?

Jim

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On 18/12/2021 08:20, Jeff Layman wrote:
>
> On 18/12/2021 07:23, williamwright wrote:
>>
>> This a is general problem with foreigners.
>
> Is Boris a foreigner?

Touche (e acute)

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On 19/12/2021 16:28, Java Jive wrote:
> On 18/12/2021 08:20, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 18/12/2021 07:23, williamwright wrote:
>>>
>>> This a is general problem with foreigners.
>>
>> Is Boris a foreigner?
>
> Touche (e acute)

Touché. (Hold down AltGr when pressing the key.)

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On 2021-12-16, Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11:46 16 Dec 2021, Incubus said:
>
>> On 2021-12-16, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>> On 16/12/2021 10:33, Incubus wrote:
>>>> On 2021-12-09, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> This particular conspiracy theory has been flogged to death and
>>>>> well beyond in uk.tech.digital-tv many times over the last year,
>>>>> I was merely restating the position as currently best understood
>>>>> in this ng. When that wasn't sufficient for those in
>>>>> uk.politics.misc, I then restated the *SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE* in
>>>>> subsequent posts on 06/11/2021, 19:20 and 07/11/2021, 23:36 and
>>>>> plenty more subsequently. I note that at the time, you didn't
>>>>> reply to any of those three posts, nor in fact any post in that
>>>>> particular subthread, so obviously you didn't have any criticism
>>>>> of it then, and therefore are only trawling through the thread
>>>>> now because you're running out of mud to sling and desperate to
>>>>> find some more. In fact you didn't post anything in thread at
>>>>> all until four days later, and that merely contained an
>>>>> irrelevant reference to Russian bioweapons research.
>>>>
>>>> Have you seen the latest?
>>>>
>>>> "MPs have been told by experts that a Wuhan lab leak is now
>>>> 'the most likely' origin of COVID-19 and that there's also a
>>>> high risk it 'was an engineered virus.'"
>>>>
>>>> https://summit.news/2021/12/15/mps-told-covid-likely-
>>>> engineered-in-wuhan-lab/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/15/wuhan-lab-leak-
>>>> now-likely-origin-covid-mps-told/
>>>>
>>>> Ouch.
>>>
>>> It could still be the result of irresponsible "gain of function"
>>> research rather than a desire to harm people.
>>
>> Indeed; it doesn't automatically mean that it was part of bioweapon
>> research. We should still consider the possibility, however.
>
> How does it make any difference either way? Is the purpsoe of pinning
> it on Chinese scientists to ask for reparations?
>
> Asia (and to a lesser extent Africa) are breeding grounds for zoonotic
> diseases. There are dozens such diseases which go around the world
> including seasonal flu.
>
> How does it make any difference if a lab was involved in the creation
> of Covid rather than natural events? Is there perhaps a wider
> political battle in the debate, whose presence has gone over my
> head?

If we weren't clients of China's manufacturing, China would be deemed a
rogue state. Their research into viruses and weaponry would have
everyone frothing at the mouth. The fact that they have us where they
want us means that no official will even dare criticise them much less
take further measures against them.

Why are you such a China apologist?

On 09:52 20 Dec 2021, Incubus said:
> On 2021-12-16, Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 11:46 16 Dec 2021, Incubus said:
>>> On 2021-12-16, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>> On 16/12/2021 10:33, Incubus wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-12-09, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This particular conspiracy theory has been flogged to death and
>>>>>> well beyond in uk.tech.digital-tv many times over the last
>>>>>> year, I was merely restating the position as currently best
>>>>>> understood in this ng. When that wasn't sufficient for those
>>>>>> in uk.politics.misc, I then restated the *SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE*
>>>>>> in subsequent posts on 06/11/2021, 19:20 and 07/11/2021, 23:36
>>>>>> and plenty more subsequently. I note that at the time, you
>>>>>> didn't reply to any of those three posts, nor in fact any post
>>>>>> in that particular subthread, so obviously you didn't have any
>>>>>> criticism of it then, and therefore are only trawling through
>>>>>> the thread now because you're running out of mud to sling and
>>>>>> desperate to find some more. In fact you didn't post anything
>>>>>> in thread at all until four days later, and that merely
>>>>>> contained an irrelevant reference to Russian bioweapons
>>>>>> research.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you seen the latest?
>>>>>
>>>>> "MPs have been told by experts that a Wuhan lab leak is now
>>>>> 'the most likely' origin of COVID-19 and that there's also a
>>>>> high risk it 'was an engineered virus.'"
>>>>>
>>>>> https://summit.news/2021/12/15/mps-told-covid-likely-
>>>>> engineered-in-wuhan-lab/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/15/wuhan-lab-leak-
>>>>> now-likely-origin-covid-mps-told/
>>>>>
>>>>> Ouch.
>>>>
>>>> It could still be the result of irresponsible "gain of function"
>>>> research rather than a desire to harm people.
>>>
>>> Indeed; it doesn't automatically mean that it was part of
>>> bioweapon research. We should still consider the possibility,
>>> however.
>>
>> How does it make any difference either way? Is the purpsoe of
>> pinning it on Chinese scientists to ask for reparations?
>>
>> Asia (and to a lesser extent Africa) are breeding grounds for
>> zoonotic diseases. There are dozens such diseases which go around
>> the world including seasonal flu.
>>
>> How does it make any difference if a lab was involved in the
>> creation of Covid rather than natural events? Is there perhaps a
>> wider political battle in the debate, whose presence has gone over
>> my head?
>
> If we weren't clients of China's manufacturing, China would be
> deemed a rogue state. Their research into viruses and weaponry
> would have everyone frothing at the mouth. The fact that they have
> us where they want us means that no official will even dare
> criticise them much less take further measures against them.
>
> Why are you such a China apologist?

China is a big bully, especially in Asia. You don't need to prove it.

Look at the Spartly Islands in the South China Seas. China is making a
territorial grab there and also building aritificial islands for
military use. The maps clearly show China is in the wrong but it makes
no difference.

Even if Chinese master plans for genetically creating Covid came to
light, China would just stonewall the West.

I don't like the Yellow Peril any more than you. They may be smart and
hard working but they're totally untrustworthy.

On 2021-12-18, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 05:24 17 Dec 2021, williamwright said:
>>> On 16/12/2021 16:31, Pamela wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How does it make any difference if a lab was involved in the creation
>>>> of Covid rather than natural events? Is there perhaps a wider
>>>> political battle in the debate, whose presence has gone over my
>>>> head?
>>>
>>> Well yeah because it's more evidence that China is out to dominate the
>>> world. And they really are.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> We already know China is aiming at world domination.
>>
>
> Or maybe they just see it as gaining their rightful place in the world.

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

On 2021-12-20, Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09:52 20 Dec 2021, Incubus said:
>> On 2021-12-16, Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11:46 16 Dec 2021, Incubus said:
>>>> On 2021-12-16, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 16/12/2021 10:33, Incubus wrote:
>>>>>> On 2021-12-09, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This particular conspiracy theory has been flogged to death and
>>>>>>> well beyond in uk.tech.digital-tv many times over the last
>>>>>>> year, I was merely restating the position as currently best
>>>>>>> understood in this ng. When that wasn't sufficient for those
>>>>>>> in uk.politics.misc, I then restated the *SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE*
>>>>>>> in subsequent posts on 06/11/2021, 19:20 and 07/11/2021, 23:36
>>>>>>> and plenty more subsequently. I note that at the time, you
>>>>>>> didn't reply to any of those three posts, nor in fact any post
>>>>>>> in that particular subthread, so obviously you didn't have any
>>>>>>> criticism of it then, and therefore are only trawling through
>>>>>>> the thread now because you're running out of mud to sling and
>>>>>>> desperate to find some more. In fact you didn't post anything
>>>>>>> in thread at all until four days later, and that merely
>>>>>>> contained an irrelevant reference to Russian bioweapons
>>>>>>> research.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you seen the latest?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "MPs have been told by experts that a Wuhan lab leak is now
>>>>>> 'the most likely' origin of COVID-19 and that there's also a
>>>>>> high risk it 'was an engineered virus.'"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://summit.news/2021/12/15/mps-told-covid-likely-
>>>>>> engineered-in-wuhan-lab/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/15/wuhan-lab-leak-
>>>>>> now-likely-origin-covid-mps-told/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ouch.
>>>>>
>>>>> It could still be the result of irresponsible "gain of function"
>>>>> research rather than a desire to harm people.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed; it doesn't automatically mean that it was part of
>>>> bioweapon research. We should still consider the possibility,
>>>> however.
>>>
>>> How does it make any difference either way? Is the purpsoe of
>>> pinning it on Chinese scientists to ask for reparations?
>>>
>>> Asia (and to a lesser extent Africa) are breeding grounds for
>>> zoonotic diseases. There are dozens such diseases which go around
>>> the world including seasonal flu.
>>>
>>> How does it make any difference if a lab was involved in the
>>> creation of Covid rather than natural events? Is there perhaps a
>>> wider political battle in the debate, whose presence has gone over
>>> my head?
>>
>> If we weren't clients of China's manufacturing, China would be
>> deemed a rogue state. Their research into viruses and weaponry
>> would have everyone frothing at the mouth. The fact that they have
>> us where they want us means that no official will even dare
>> criticise them much less take further measures against them.
>>
>> Why are you such a China apologist?
>
> China is a big bully, especially in Asia. You don't need to prove it.
>
> Look at the Spartly Islands in the South China Seas. China is making a
> territorial grab there and also building aritificial islands for
> military use. The maps clearly show China is in the wrong but it makes
> no difference.
>
> Even if Chinese master plans for genetically creating Covid came to
> light, China would just stonewall the West.
>
> I don't like the Yellow Peril any more than you. They may be smart and
> hard working but they're totally untrustworthy.

Add Russia into the mix and things could get interesting.

I'm glad to see that wider political battle hasn't gone over your head
:)

In article <XnsAE067E6936BE937B93@144.76.35.252>, Pamela
<pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:
> China is a big bully, especially in Asia. You don't need to prove it.

> Look at the Spartly Islands in the South China Seas. China is making a
> territorial grab there and also building aritificial islands for
> military use. The maps clearly show China is in the wrong but it makes
> no difference.

> Even if Chinese master plans for genetically creating Covid came to
> light, China would just stonewall the West.

> I don't like the Yellow Peril any more than you. They may be smart and
> hard working but they're totally untrustworthy.

Agreed. Part of the problem is the extent to which we now rely upon them
for manufactured goods because as a country we failed to act so as to avoid
so much of our industry and IPR from being shifted there.

Jim

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