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* Re: Element 14 Q?F Murtz
`* Re: Element 14 Q?Trevor Wilson
 `* Re: Element 14 Q?Trevor Wilson
  `* Re: Element 14 Q?Phil Allison
   +- Re: Element 14 Q?Chris Jones
   `* Re: Element 14 Q?Trevor Wilson
    +* Re: Element 14 Q?Computer Nerd Kev
    |`- Re: Element 14 Q?Trevor Wilson
    +* Re: Element 14 Q?Phil Allison
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 by: F Murtz - Wed, 28 Jul 2021 15:41 UTC

Daniel65 wrote:
> Phil Allison wrote on 26/3/21 4:28 pm:
>> Hi,
>>
>> have Element 14 outsourced their Sydney call centre ?
>> Every gal who answers seems to have an Asian accent.
>>
>> Used to be a shining example of how to do the job right with an all
>> Aussie staff.
>>
>>
>> .....   Phil
>>
> Who or What is "Element 14"??
>
> My Physics/Chemistry was never that good. ;-P
silicone

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Wed, 28 Jul 2021 21:20 UTC

On 29/07/2021 1:41 am, F Murtz wrote:
> Daniel65 wrote:
>> Phil Allison wrote on 26/3/21 4:28 pm:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> have Element 14 outsourced their Sydney call centre ?
>>> Every gal who answers seems to have an Asian accent.
>>>
>>> Used to be a shining example of how to do the job right with an all
>>> Aussie staff.
>>>
>>>
>>> .....   Phil
>>>
>> Who or What is "Element 14"??
>>
>> My Physics/Chemistry was never that good. ;-P
> silicone

**That would be silicon, not silicone. Silicon is an eleent, whilst
silicone is the name given to a wide range of compounds. Silicone is the
stuff found in older style fake boobs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:19 UTC

On 29/07/2021 7:20 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 29/07/2021 1:41 am, F Murtz wrote:
>> Daniel65 wrote:
>>> Phil Allison wrote on 26/3/21 4:28 pm:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> have Element 14 outsourced their Sydney call centre ?
>>>> Every gal who answers seems to have an Asian accent.
>>>>
>>>> Used to be a shining example of how to do the job right with an all
>>>> Aussie staff.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .....   Phil
>>>>
>>> Who or What is "Element 14"??
>>>
>>> My Physics/Chemistry was never that good. ;-P
>> silicone
>
> **That would be silicon, not silicone. Silicon is an eleent, whilst
> silicone is the name given to a wide range of compounds. Silicone is the
> stuff found in older style fake boobs:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone

**Oops. Should read: "Silicon is an ELEMENT,...."

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 by: Phil Allison - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 02:46 UTC

Trevor Wilson wrote:
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>
> **Oops. Should read: "Silicon is an ELEMENT,...."
>

** I found Farnell's new name confusing at first.

That Silicon had atomic number 14 did not spring to mind.
What did was Carbon 14.
Mentioned constantly in TV programs in relation " carbon dating " of antiquities.

FYI Carbon is element 12.

Dunno who thought " Element 14 " was a good name.
A committee of camels ?

...... Phil

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 by: Chris Jones - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 12:08 UTC

On 29/07/2021 12:46, Phil Allison wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
> ==================
>>
>> **Oops. Should read: "Silicon is an ELEMENT,...."
>>
>
> ** I found Farnell's new name confusing at first.
>
> That Silicon had atomic number 14 did not spring to mind.
> What did was Carbon 14.
That's the mass number of that isotope, counting the protons plus
neutrons. (very nearly the atomic mass also)

> Mentioned constantly in TV programs in relation " carbon dating " of antiquities.
>
> FYI Carbon is element 12.
It's element 6 (atomic number is 6) - only count the protons for the
atomic number. Carbon-12 has a mass number of 12, and it is special
because its atomic mass is also defined to be exactly 12 and used as the
reference when measuring the other atomic masses accurately.

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:09 UTC

On 29/07/2021 12:46 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
> ==================
>>
>> **Oops. Should read: "Silicon is an ELEMENT,...."
>>
>
> ** I found Farnell's new name confusing at first.
>
> That Silicon had atomic number 14 did not spring to mind.
> What did was Carbon 14.
> Mentioned constantly in TV programs in relation " carbon dating " of antiquities.
>
> FYI Carbon is element 12.
>
> Dunno who thought " Element 14 " was a good name.
> A committee of camels ?
>

**I still don't get it. It's been, what, a decade or so since they
changed from Farnell? A search for Element14 returns the following words:

Element14, previously Farnell.

Why the fuck change the name from Farnell?

Near as I can tell, it was just a dumb thought-bubble.

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 by: Computer Nerd Kev - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 23:19 UTC

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
> On 29/07/2021 12:46 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>>
>> Dunno who thought " Element 14 " was a good name.
>> A committee of camels ?
>>
>
> **I still don't get it. It's been, what, a decade or so since they
> changed from Farnell? A search for Element14 returns the following words:
>
> Element14, previously Farnell.
>
> Why the fuck change the name from Farnell?
>
> Near as I can tell, it was just a dumb thought-bubble.

I guess since they were calling themselves Newark in the US,
someone thought they should have a special name for dealing with
our end of the world as well. Insanity of course, and probably
costs them a fortune in doing different branding on forms and
publications, but I'm sure it helps to keep a lot of people busy
and feeling more important.

--
__ __
#_ < |\| |< _#

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 by: Trevor Wilson - Fri, 30 Jul 2021 00:26 UTC

On 30/07/2021 9:19 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
>> On 29/07/2021 12:46 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>>>
>>> Dunno who thought " Element 14 " was a good name.
>>> A committee of camels ?
>>>
>>
>> **I still don't get it. It's been, what, a decade or so since they
>> changed from Farnell? A search for Element14 returns the following words:
>>
>> Element14, previously Farnell.
>>
>> Why the fuck change the name from Farnell?
>>
>> Near as I can tell, it was just a dumb thought-bubble.
>
> I guess since they were calling themselves Newark in the US,
> someone thought they should have a special name for dealing with
> our end of the world as well. Insanity of course, and probably
> costs them a fortune in doing different branding on forms and
> publications, but I'm sure it helps to keep a lot of people busy
> and feeling more important.
>

**Here's the thing: Newark was a pre-existing company with a formidable
reputation. Now I don't know if Farnell tried to kill off the Newark
name, but they are smart to use the existing Newark name. Farnell SHOULD
have kept Farnell in Australia.

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 by: Phil Allison - Fri, 30 Jul 2021 01:40 UTC

Trevor Wilson wrote:
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>
> > ** I found Farnell's new name confusing at first.
> >
> > That Silicon had atomic number 14 did not spring to mind.
> > What did was Carbon 14.
> > Mentioned constantly in TV programs in relation " carbon dating " of antiquities.
> >
> > Dunno who thought " Element 14 " was a good name.
> > A committee of camels ?
> >
> **I still don't get it. It's been, what, a decade or so since they
> changed from Farnell? A search for Element14 returns the following words:
>
> Element14, previously Farnell.
>
> Why the fuck change the name from Farnell?
>
> Near as I can tell, it was just a dumb thought-bubble.
>

** I never liked the magazine name "Silicon Chip" or it's logo.

When it first came out, Greg Swain asked me ( on the phone) if I liked the name.
Had to admit I didn't and he was "not amused".

Soon someone dubbed it "Silicon Chimp" - which it deserved.

...... Phil

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Subject: Re: Element 14 Q?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2021 14:30:50 +1000
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 by: keithr0 - Fri, 30 Jul 2021 04:30 UTC

On 30/07/2021 11:40 am, Phil Allison wrote:
> Trevor Wilson wrote:
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>>
>>> ** I found Farnell's new name confusing at first.
>>>
>>> That Silicon had atomic number 14 did not spring to mind.
>>> What did was Carbon 14.
>>> Mentioned constantly in TV programs in relation " carbon dating " of antiquities.
>>>
>>> Dunno who thought " Element 14 " was a good name.
>>> A committee of camels ?
>>>
>> **I still don't get it. It's been, what, a decade or so since they
>> changed from Farnell? A search for Element14 returns the following words:
>>
>> Element14, previously Farnell.
>>
>> Why the fuck change the name from Farnell?
>>
>> Near as I can tell, it was just a dumb thought-bubble.
>>
>
> ** I never liked the magazine name "Silicon Chip" or it's logo.
>
> When it first came out, Greg Swain asked me ( on the phone) if I liked the name.
> Had to admit I didn't and he was "not amused".
>
> Soon someone dubbed it "Silicon Chimp" - which it deserved.

Or maybe Silicon chump.

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 by: keithr0 - Fri, 30 Jul 2021 04:32 UTC

On 30/07/2021 6:09 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
> On 29/07/2021 12:46 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
>> Trevor Wilson wrote:
>> ==================
>>>
>>> **Oops. Should read: "Silicon is an ELEMENT,...."
>>>
>>
>> **  I found Farnell's new name confusing at first.
>>
>> That Silicon had atomic number 14 did not spring to mind.
>> What did was Carbon 14.
>> Mentioned constantly in TV programs in relation " carbon dating " of
>> antiquities.
>>
>> FYI   Carbon is element 12.
>>
>> Dunno who thought " Element 14 " was a good name.
>> A committee of camels ?
>>
>
> **I still don't get it. It's been, what, a decade or so since they
> changed from Farnell? A search for Element14 returns the following words:
>
> Element14, previously Farnell.
>
> Why the fuck change the name from Farnell?
>
> Near as I can tell, it was just a dumb thought-bubble.

Likely some denizen of the marketing department trying to make a name
for himself.

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