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* Foxen gornPeter
+- Foxen gornTone
+* Foxen gornmaus
|`* Foxen gornAhem A Rivet's Shot
| `* Foxen gornNicholas D. Richards
|  +* Foxen gornTim+
|  |`* Foxen gornNicholas D. Richards
|  | `- Foxen gornTim+
|  `* Foxen gornPeter
|   +* Foxen gornDon Stockbauer
|   |`* Foxen gornmaus
|   | `* Foxen gornNicholas D. Richards
|   |  +- Foxen gornRichard Robinson
|   |  +- Foxen gornmaus
|   |  `- Foxen gornRustyHinge
|   +- Foxen gornNicholas D. Richards
|   `* Foxen gornmaus
|    `* Foxen gornNicholas D. Richards
|     +- Foxen gornmaus
|     `* Foxen gornKerr-Mudd, John
|      `- Foxen gornRustyHinge
`* Foxen gornNicholas D. Richards
 `* Foxen gornSam Plusnet
  `* Foxen gornNicholas D. Richards
   +- Foxen gornDon Stockbauer
   `- Foxen gornSam Plusnet

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From: mys...@prune.org.uk (Peter)
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Subject: Foxen gorn
Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 12:51:29 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Peter - Sun, 1 May 2022 12:51 UTC

The fox cubs I was watching have vanished, presumed eaten. The vixen's
behaviour has changed from alternately hunting for food and feeding them to
desperately seraching for her cubs. She's even pulled bits of my shed appart
to try to find them. Now I have some repair work to do.

Naturaly my camera was in for battery replacement when it happened. (I knew
the batteries were low and I should have replaced them as soon as I started
monitoring the den, but I was trying to eke them out a bit. Silly me.). But
on the basis of footage from before and after, I suspect either a cat or
another fox.

I'd feel quite gloomy if I weren't such a hard-hearted bar steward.

--
Peter
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 by: Tone - Sun, 1 May 2022 13:42 UTC

On 01/05/2022 13:51, Peter wrote:
> The fox cubs I was watching have vanished, presumed eaten. The vixen's
> behaviour has changed from alternately hunting for food and feeding them to
> desperately seraching for her cubs. She's even pulled bits of my shed appart
> to try to find them. Now I have some repair work to do.
>
> Naturaly my camera was in for battery replacement when it happened. (I knew
> the batteries were low and I should have replaced them as soon as I started
> monitoring the den, but I was trying to eke them out a bit. Silly me.). But
> on the basis of footage from before and after, I suspect either a cat or
> another fox.
>
> I'd feel quite gloomy if I weren't such a hard-hearted bar steward.
>

That's sad.

Tone

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 by: maus - Sun, 1 May 2022 14:00 UTC

On 2022-05-01, Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
> The fox cubs I was watching have vanished, presumed eaten. The vixen's
> behaviour has changed from alternately hunting for food and feeding them to
> desperately seraching for her cubs. She's even pulled bits of my shed appart
> to try to find them. Now I have some repair work to do.
>
> Naturaly my camera was in for battery replacement when it happened. (I knew
> the batteries were low and I should have replaced them as soon as I started
> monitoring the den, but I was trying to eke them out a bit. Silly me.). But
> on the basis of footage from before and after, I suspect either a cat or
> another fox.
>
> I'd feel quite gloomy if I weren't such a hard-hearted bar steward.
>

The local television station, as I recall, had a nesting box with
camera, and a mammy bird laid and hatched her chicks in it.

`All the girls said `Aah, how cute!'

Then it was discovered that the nest was not catproof (there was
something about the cat using the TV cables to get in) and there was a
while TV viewers could see the cat eating the chicks. Nature is red in
tooth and claw.

--
greymausg@mail.com
It is I, alone, who can tell you.

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Sun, 1 May 2022 15:37 UTC

On 1 May 2022 14:00:10 GMT
maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:

> Then it was discovered that the nest was not catproof (there was
> something about the cat using the TV cables to get in) and there was a
> while TV viewers could see the cat eating the chicks. Nature is red in
> tooth and claw.

Natural death == Being eaten alive.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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From: nicho...@salmiron.com (Nicholas D. Richards)
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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Sun, 1 May 2022 18:35 UTC

In article <20220501163727.5029485faca83ae63a12f105@eircom.net>, Ahem A
Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Sun, 1 May 2022 at 16:37:27 awoke
Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 1 May 2022 14:00:10 GMT
>maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>
>> Then it was discovered that the nest was not catproof (there was
>> something about the cat using the TV cables to get in) and there was a
>> while TV viewers could see the cat eating the chicks. Nature is red in
>> tooth and claw.
>
>Natural death == Being eaten alive.
>
Most predator mammals seem to kill their vertebrate prey pretty quickly,
either in the process of eating the prey or as preparation for eating.

On the other hand Arthropods have many and common examples of egg laying
on other Arthropods which they have paralysed/anaesthetised, the pupa
then munching their way through the flesh of their living prey.

This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
hidden part of its web.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

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 by: Tim+ - Sun, 1 May 2022 18:59 UTC

Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
> In article <20220501163727.5029485faca83ae63a12f105@eircom.net>, Ahem A
> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Sun, 1 May 2022 at 16:37:27 awoke
> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>> On 1 May 2022 14:00:10 GMT
>> maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Then it was discovered that the nest was not catproof (there was
>>> something about the cat using the TV cables to get in) and there was a
>>> while TV viewers could see the cat eating the chicks. Nature is red in
>>> tooth and claw.
>>
>> Natural death == Being eaten alive.
>>
> Most predator mammals seem to kill their vertebrate prey pretty quickly,
> either in the process of eating the prey or as preparation for eating.

Ever watched a sparrow hawk eating a pigeon? They just tear away at the
breast whilst holding the pigeon down. Whether the pigeon is alive or dead
during the process is of no consequence to them.

It ain’t pretty, but it’s nature.

Tim

--
Please don't feed the trolls

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Sun, 1 May 2022 19:06 UTC

In article <XnsAE8A8CF9CFE2FFactura3476@144.76.35.252>, Peter
<myshed@prune.org.uk> on Sun, 1 May 2022 at 12:51:29 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>The fox cubs I was watching have vanished, presumed eaten. The vixen's
>behaviour has changed from alternately hunting for food and feeding them to
>desperately seraching for her cubs. She's even pulled bits of my shed appart
>to try to find them. Now I have some repair work to do.
>
>Naturaly my camera was in for battery replacement when it happened. (I knew
>the batteries were low and I should have replaced them as soon as I started
>monitoring the den, but I was trying to eke them out a bit. Silly me.). But
>on the basis of footage from before and after, I suspect either a cat or
>another fox.
>
>I'd feel quite gloomy if I weren't such a hard-hearted bar steward.
>
I am not saying the kits have not been eaten, however vixens often move
their kits when they first become mobile. It is thought that they do
this to try to stop severe infection from parasites. Round here most
foxes that I see are infected with mange.

If they have been predated I would have expected that you would see
parts of the kits lying around. A kit is an awfully big meal for a cat
at one sitting. I gather that if a badger kills kits but do not eat
them.

Human intervention seems a distinct possibility, either to cull them or
in a misguided attempt tame a fox.
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

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 by: Peter - Sun, 1 May 2022 20:46 UTC

"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
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>
> This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
> jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
> gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
> there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
> backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
> hidden part of its web.

I suspect that the spider is, very slowly and carefullly, wrapping up the
wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
into the larder.

--
Peter
-----

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Sun, 1 May 2022 22:44 UTC

On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 3:46:24 PM UTC-5, Peter wrote:
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote in
> news:ClRfRsAM...@salmiron.com:
> >
> > This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
> > jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
> > gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
> > there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
> > backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
> > hidden part of its web.
> I suspect that the spider is, very slowly and carefullly, wrapping up the
> wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
> When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
> into the larder.
>
> --
> Peter
> -----

A wasp stung me just about an hour ago.

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Sun, 1 May 2022 22:44 UTC

In article <XnsAE8ADD7DEB100Factura3476@144.76.35.252>, Peter
<myshed@prune.org.uk> on Sun, 1 May 2022 at 20:46:23 awoke Nicholas
from his slumbers and wrote
>"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
>news:ClRfRsAMMtbiFAIo@salmiron.com:
>
>>
>> This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
>> jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
>> gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
>> there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
>> backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
>> hidden part of its web.
>
>I suspect that the spider is, very slowly and carefullly, wrapping up the
>wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
>When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
>into the larder.
>
The wasp has been moved and I suspect that you are very right.
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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Sun, 1 May 2022 22:50 UTC

In article <1976228216.673124200.029450.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.indivi
dual.net>, Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> on Sun, 1 May 2022 at 18:59:41
awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>> In article <20220501163727.5029485faca83ae63a12f105@eircom.net>, Ahem A
>> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Sun, 1 May 2022 at 16:37:27 awoke
>> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>> On 1 May 2022 14:00:10 GMT
>>> maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Then it was discovered that the nest was not catproof (there was
>>>> something about the cat using the TV cables to get in) and there was a
>>>> while TV viewers could see the cat eating the chicks. Nature is red in
>>>> tooth and claw.
>>>
>>> Natural death == Being eaten alive.
>>>
>> Most predator mammals seem to kill their vertebrate prey pretty quickly,
>> either in the process of eating the prey or as preparation for eating.
>
>Ever watched a sparrow hawk eating a pigeon? They just tear away at the
>breast whilst holding the pigeon down. Whether the pigeon is alive or dead
>during the process is of no consequence to them.
>
>It ain’t pretty, but it’s nature.
>
The sparrow hawk hits the pigeon at quite a lick, and the consensus
appears to be that the shock kills or concusses the pigeon. Even if not
quite dead the pigeon is very quickly dead. Rather more quickly than a
victim of snake bite, for instance.
>

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Re: Foxen gorn

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Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
> In article <1976228216.673124200.029450.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.indivi
> dual.net>, Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> on Sun, 1 May 2022 at 18:59:41
> awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>> Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>>> In article <20220501163727.5029485faca83ae63a12f105@eircom.net>, Ahem A
>>> Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> on Sun, 1 May 2022 at 16:37:27 awoke
>>> Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>>> On 1 May 2022 14:00:10 GMT
>>>> maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Then it was discovered that the nest was not catproof (there was
>>>>> something about the cat using the TV cables to get in) and there was a
>>>>> while TV viewers could see the cat eating the chicks. Nature is red in
>>>>> tooth and claw.
>>>>
>>>> Natural death == Being eaten alive.
>>>>
>>> Most predator mammals seem to kill their vertebrate prey pretty quickly,
>>> either in the process of eating the prey or as preparation for eating.
>>
>> Ever watched a sparrow hawk eating a pigeon? They just tear away at the
>> breast whilst holding the pigeon down. Whether the pigeon is alive or dead
>> during the process is of no consequence to them.
>>
>> It ain’t pretty, but it’s nature.
>>
> The sparrow hawk hits the pigeon at quite a lick, and the consensus
> appears to be that the shock kills or concusses the pigeon. Even if not
> quite dead the pigeon is very quickly dead. Rather more quickly than a
> victim of snake bite, for instance.
>>
>

I assure you that the pigeon being eaten in our back garden was nothing
like dead. Indeed, when the hawk was disturbed by our dog 10 minutes later
the pigeon made a run for it.

Tim

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 by: maus - Mon, 2 May 2022 07:47 UTC

On 2022-05-01, Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
> news:ClRfRsAMMtbiFAIo@salmiron.com:
>
>>
>> This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
>> jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
>> gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
>> there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
>> backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
>> hidden part of its web.
>
> I suspect that the spider is, very slowly and carefullly, wrapping up the
> wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
> When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
> into the larder.
>

Skelob, LOTR

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On 2022-05-01, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 3:46:24 PM UTC-5, Peter wrote:
>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote in
>> news:ClRfRsAM...@salmiron.com:
>> >
>> > This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
>> > jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
>> > gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
>> > there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
>> > backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
>> > hidden part of its web.
>> I suspect that the spider is, very slowly and carefullly, wrapping up the
>> wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
>> When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
>> into the larder.
>>
>> --
>> Peter
>> -----
>
> A wasp stung me just about an hour ago.

A wasp or a WASP? :)

Where you?. They haven't woken up here yet.

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Mon, 2 May 2022 08:27 UTC

In article <slrnt6v39h.34p.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
Mon, 2 May 2022 at 07:50:09 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 2022-05-01, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 3:46:24 PM UTC-5, Peter wrote:
>>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote in
>>> news:ClRfRsAM...@salmiron.com:
>>> >
>>> > This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
>>> > jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
>>> > gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
>>> > there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
>>> > backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
>>> > hidden part of its web.
>>> I suspect that the spider is, very slowly and carefullly, wrapping up the
>>> wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
>>> When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
>>> into the larder.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter
>>> -----
>>
>> A wasp stung me just about an hour ago.
>
>A wasp or a WASP? :)
>
>Where you?. They haven't woken up here yet.
>
Eh? I do not know where you are. At this time of the year, in London,
they are not normally much of a nuisance, unless of course you have a
nest being busily built on your premises. That is normally the case,
but we are experiencing a somewhat cool April/May and they are rather
sluggish.
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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Mon, 2 May 2022 08:35 UTC

In article <slrnt6v35d.34p.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
Mon, 2 May 2022 at 07:47:57 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>On 2022-05-01, Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
>> news:ClRfRsAMMtbiFAIo@salmiron.com:
>>
>>>
>>> This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
>>> jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
>>> gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
>>> there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
>>> backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
>>> hidden part of its web.
>>
>> I suspect that the spider is, very slowly and carefullly, wrapping up the
>> wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
>> When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
>> into the larder.
>>
>
>Skelob, LOTR
>
I had to look that one up, being somewhat antithetical towards gothic,
or whatever, novels (LOTR, Gormenghast). Shelob a spider in Lord of the
Rings, for the uninitiated.
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 by: Richard Robinson - Mon, 2 May 2022 09:22 UTC

Nicholas D. Richards said:
>>
> Eh? I do not know where you are. At this time of the year, in London,
> they are not normally much of a nuisance, unless of course you have a
> nest being busily built on your premises. That is normally the case,
> but we are experiencing a somewhat cool April/May and they are rather
> sluggish.

But I haven't noticed the slugs being particularly waspish.

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 by: maus - Mon, 2 May 2022 09:30 UTC

On 2022-05-02, Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnt6v35d.34p.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
> Mon, 2 May 2022 at 07:47:57 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>> wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
>>> When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
>>> into the larder.
>>>
>>
>>Skelob, LOTR
>>
> I had to look that one up, being somewhat antithetical towards gothic,
> or whatever, novels (LOTR, Gormenghast). Shelob a spider in Lord of the
> Rings, for the uninitiated.

Come to the head of the class (where I can keep an eye on you!)

--
greymausg@mail.com
It is I, alone, who can tell you.

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 by: Kerr-Mudd, John - Mon, 2 May 2022 09:28 UTC

On Mon, 2 May 2022 09:35:17 +0100
"Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:

> In article <slrnt6v35d.34p.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
> Mon, 2 May 2022 at 07:47:57 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
> >On 2022-05-01, Peter <myshed@prune.org.uk> wrote:
> >> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote in
> >> news:ClRfRsAMMtbiFAIo@salmiron.com:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
> >>> jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
> >>> gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
> >>> there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
> >>> backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
> >>> hidden part of its web.
> >>
> >> I suspect that the spider is, very slowly and carefullly, wrapping up the
> >> wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
> >> When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
> >> into the larder.
> >>
> >
> >Skelob, LOTR
> >
> I had to look that one up, being somewhat antithetical towards gothic,
> or whatever, novels (LOTR, Gormenghast). Shelob a spider in Lord of the
> Rings, for the uninitiated.

but 'skelob' is near enough bol*cks backwards. Are am I reading too much into this?
--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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 by: maus - Mon, 2 May 2022 09:34 UTC

On 2022-05-02, Nicholas D. Richards <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnt6v39h.34p.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
> Mon, 2 May 2022 at 07:50:09 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>>On 2022-05-01, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 3:46:24 PM UTC-5, Peter wrote:
>>>> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nich...@salmiron.com> wrote in
>>>> news:ClRfRsAM...@salmiron.com:
>>>> >
>>>> > This morning a small spider, maybe 3 or 4 mm, snared an angry yellow
>>>> > jacket in its web, inside our house. It seems to have injected it and it
>>>> > gradually quietened down, over a period maybe 10 minutes. I can see that
>>>> > there is some movement in the wasp and the spider seems to be going
>>>> > backwards and forwards crawling over the wasp and retreating back to the
>>>> > hidden part of its web.
>>>> I suspect that the spider is, very slowly and carefullly, wrapping up the
>>>> wasp. The venom that was injected will be dissolving the wasp's innards.
>>>> When, eventually, the wasp is harmless it will also be wrapped ready to go
>>>> into the larder.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Peter
>>>> -----
>>>
>>> A wasp stung me just about an hour ago.
>>
>>A wasp or a WASP? :)
>>
>>Where you?. They haven't woken up here yet.
>>
> Eh? I do not know where you are. At this time of the year, in London,
> they are not normally much of a nuisance, unless of course you have a
> nest being busily built on your premises. That is normally the case,
> but we are experiencing a somewhat cool April/May and they are rather
> sluggish.

Ireland, the best country in the world, or is unless the NI elections
shortly turns the country into a mass of disputing clans :}

Wasps can be very dangerous in that torpid state. I suppose that it is
analogous to the humor of a person woken too early.
--
greymausg@mail.com
It is I, alone, who can tell you.

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 by: RustyHinge - Mon, 2 May 2022 09:55 UTC

On 02/05/2022 09:27, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <slrnt6v39h.34p.maus@dmaus.org>, maus <maus@dmaus.org> on
> Mon, 2 May 2022 at 07:50:09 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and wrote
>> On 2022-05-01, Don Stockbauer <donstockbauer@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> A wasp or a WASP? :)
>>
>> Where you?. They haven't woken up here yet.

He's in Texas, IIRC

> Eh? I do not know where you are. At this time of the year, in London,
> they are not normally much of a nuisance, unless of course you have a
> nest being busily built on your premises. That is normally the case,
> but we are experiencing a somewhat cool April/May and they are rather
> sluggish.

Yesterday, I had a bum bigglebee blundering round my fromt rheum,
mistaking the widows for an eggsit. dunno whether it was a queen or a
drone, but I rather goove it was a queen - must have hatched
(de-pupated) from one of my plant pots, unless it had hibernated behind
a certain curtain.

Carer arrived and ushered it onto an exercise bike^h^h^h^book, took it
outside and left it on a bank of flowering greater stitchwort.

I unforget when I was four, (setting fixes the date) I used to catch
bumblebees in my cupped hands and release them near the best (in my
estimation) flahs, in the belief that beedlebums didn't sting.

My mother was horrificated and disabused me of the notion...

--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.

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 by: RustyHinge - Mon, 2 May 2022 11:44 UTC

On 02/05/2022 10:28, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Mon, 2 May 2022 09:35:17 +0100
> "Nicholas D. Richards" <nicholas@salmiron.com> wrote:
>
>>> Skelob, LOTR
>>>
>> I had to look that one up, being somewhat antithetical towards gothic,
>> or whatever, novels (LOTR, Gormenghast). Shelob a spider in Lord of the
>> Rings, for the uninitiated.
>
> but 'skelob' is near enough bol*cks backwards. Are am I reading too much into this?

Not a lot of Tolkein is random.

--
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 by: Sam Plusnet - Mon, 2 May 2022 20:17 UTC

On 01-May-22 20:06, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> Human intervention seems a distinct possibility, either to cull them or
> in a misguided attempt tame a fox.

We were in a local park a couple of months back &, amongst the
dog-walkers, there was a bloke chatting to another dog-walker whilst
holding three leads.
Two medium-sized dogs and a fox.

--
Sam Plusnet

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 by: Nicholas D. Richards - Mon, 2 May 2022 22:24 UTC

In article <N%WbK.120191$sMg.9335@fx06.ams1>, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com>
on Mon, 2 May 2022 at 21:17:48 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and
wrote
>On 01-May-22 20:06, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
>> Human intervention seems a distinct possibility, either to cull them or
>> in a misguided attempt tame a fox.
>
>We were in a local park a couple of months back &, amongst the
>dog-walkers, there was a bloke chatting to another dog-walker whilst
>holding three leads.
>Two medium-sized dogs and a fox.
>
Was it done up like two dogs dinners?
--
0sterc@tcher -

"Où sont les neiges d'antan?"

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 by: Don Stockbauer - Tue, 3 May 2022 02:39 UTC

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 5:33:52 PM UTC-5, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> In article <N%WbK.120191$sMg....@fx06.ams1>, Sam Plusnet <n...@home.com>
> on Mon, 2 May 2022 at 21:17:48 awoke Nicholas from his slumbers and
> wrote
> >On 01-May-22 20:06, Nicholas D. Richards wrote:
> >> Human intervention seems a distinct possibility, either to cull them or
> >> in a misguided attempt tame a fox.
> >
> >We were in a local park a couple of months back &, amongst the
> >dog-walkers, there was a bloke chatting to another dog-walker whilst
> >holding three leads.
> >Two medium-sized dogs and a fox.
> >
> Was it done up like two dogs dinners?
> --
> 0sterc@tcher -
>
> "Oů sont les neiges d'antan?"

I used to visit Challenger Park near Clear Lake City, Texas and there was this guy that had a pure 100% wolf he'd walk through the park:
If you tried to interact with the wolf he'd tell you you have to get used to it clamping down on your hand and if you can't get used to that you'll never have a relationship with it.

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