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* Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosMax Demian
+- Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosThe Natural Philosopher
+* Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosOttavio Caruso
|`* Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosSteveW
| +- Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosThe Natural Philosopher
| `- Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosOttavio Caruso
+* Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosPaul
|+- Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosAnimal
|`* Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosSteveW
| `* Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosSteveW
|  +- Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosJoe
|  `- Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardoscharles
`- Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer LeonardosBrian Gaff

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Subject: Re: Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
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 by: Max Demian - Thu, 10 Aug 2023 20:42 UTC

On 10/08/2023 20:37, David P wrote:
> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project

That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.

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From: tnp...@invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
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 by: The Natural Philosop - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 07:56 UTC

On 10/08/2023 21:42, Max Demian wrote:
> On 10/08/2023 20:37, David P wrote:
>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>
> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByYSUoMnfc8

--
Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have
guns, why should we let them have ideas?

Josef Stalin

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:08 UTC

Am 10/08/2023 um 20:42 schrieb Max Demian:
> On 10/08/2023 20:37, David P wrote:
>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>
> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
>

Paedo alert.

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Ottavio Caruso

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From: ste...@walker-family.me.uk (SteveW)
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 by: SteveW - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:35 UTC

On 11/08/2023 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Am 10/08/2023 um 20:42 schrieb Max Demian:
>> On 10/08/2023 20:37, David P wrote:
>>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
>>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>>
>> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
>>
>
> Paedo alert.

She's 20 years old.

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 by: The Natural Philosop - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 09:58 UTC

On 11/08/2023 09:35, SteveW wrote:
> On 11/08/2023 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 10/08/2023 um 20:42 schrieb Max Demian:
>>> On 10/08/2023 20:37, David P wrote:
>>>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
>>>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>>>
>>> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
>>>
>>
>> Paedo alert.
>
> She's 20 years old.
>
High time she grew up then...
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- George Orwell

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 by: Paul - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 10:46 UTC

On 8/10/2023 4:42 PM, Max Demian wrote:
> On 10/08/2023 20:37, David P wrote:
>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>
> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
>

I don't think Greta has been on the lecture circuit for a bit.
At some point, I remember her passing the baton to others,
to carry on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeches_of_Greta_Thunberg

It has a lot to do, with whether anyone is listening.

One of the IPCC Report leads made a similar statement,
about why write a report if nobody reads it.

It's like the revelation that "smoking causes cancer". I still
see people smoking :-) It doesn't matter how many pictures
of dead bodies you print on the product packet, people still
buy them :-)

Paul

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 11:09 UTC

Am 11/08/2023 um 08:35 schrieb SteveW:
> On 11/08/2023 09:08, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 10/08/2023 um 20:42 schrieb Max Demian:
>>> On 10/08/2023 20:37, David P wrote:
>>>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
>>>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>>>
>>> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
>>>
>>
>> Paedo alert.
>
> She's 20 years old.
>

Still.

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 by: Brian Gaff - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 11:52 UTC

Not sure you are allowed to say that nowadays.

She might enjoy it, many do.
Brian

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> On 10/08/2023 20:37, David P wrote:
>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>
> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
>
> --
> Max Demian
>

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 by: Animal - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 19:06 UTC

On Friday, 11 August 2023 at 19:34:35 UTC+1, David P wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> > Max Demian wrote:
> > > David P wrote:
> > >> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
> > >> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
> > >
> > > That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
> > >
> > I don't think Greta has been on the lecture circuit for a bit.
> > At some point, I remember her passing the baton to others,
> > to carry on.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeches_of_Greta_Thunberg
> >
> > It has a lot to do, with whether anyone is listening.
> -----------------------
> Walk the talk: in alt.obituaries, McCormack, Carson, and I wrote:
>
> Kenny McCormack wrote:
> > David Carson wrote:
> > >>By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
> > >
> > >>We need better role models and we can have them, too. Say what you
> > >>will about Greta Thunberg, at least she literally tries to walk her
> > >>walk. Shes invited to New York for a climate speech? She sails there.
> > >
> > >There isn't one single climate activist who isn't a roaring hypocrite.
> -----------------------------
> > This is true to an extent, but it is really just another instance of the
> > basic asymmetry between Conservatives and Liberals.
> -------------------------
> Both sides are making selfish decisions at the expense of others:
> 1. Extending life spans artificially at the expense of other critters, future generations, & the environment.
> 2. Making promises they can't keep, just to get votes.
> 3. Growing government to increase their power. while running up the debt unsustainably.
> And other countries are doing the same, which is why we still have a lot of
> conflict, just as we have since the beginning of history!
>
>
> > So, getting back to topic, as much as it pains me to admit it, it is true
> > that the only way to fix climate change (if, indeed, it is possible to fix
> > it at all) is through massive international cooperation, and the only way
> > that is going to happen is through international meetings, which,
> > unfortunately, is going to mean a lot of these John Kerry/Al Gore/whoever
> > flying around on planes to meetings and stuff. Unfortunately, there is no
> > other way.
> ----------------------
> Of course there is another way. Stop making some vaccines, to shorten the
> average life span by a few years! Also, make it a job requirement for all top
> politicians to attend regular meetings of "Politicians Anonymous", to learn a
> new way of life....how to be more honest and less selfish! It works for alcoholics
> and addicts of all types, so it will work for anyone!

when you think the solution to the world's problems is to shorten lifespans, you have truly lost the plot

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 by: SteveW - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 19:56 UTC

On 11/08/2023 19:34, David P wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> Max Demian wrote:
>>> David P wrote:
>>>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
>>>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>>>
>>> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
>>>
>> I don't think Greta has been on the lecture circuit for a bit.
>> At some point, I remember her passing the baton to others,
>> to carry on.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeches_of_Greta_Thunberg
>>
>> It has a lot to do, with whether anyone is listening.
> -----------------------
> Walk the talk: in alt.obituaries, McCormack, Carson, and I wrote:
>
> Kenny McCormack wrote:
>> David Carson wrote:
>>>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>>>
>>>> We need better role models and we can have them, too. Say what you
>>>> will about Greta Thunberg, at least she literally tries to walk her
>>>> walk. Shes invited to New York for a climate speech? She sails there.
>>>
>>> There isn't one single climate activist who isn't a roaring hypocrite.
> -----------------------------
>> This is true to an extent, but it is really just another instance of the
>> basic asymmetry between Conservatives and Liberals.
> -------------------------
> Both sides are making selfish decisions at the expense of others:
> 1. Extending life spans artificially at the expense of other critters, future generations, & the environment.
> 2. Making promises they can't keep, just to get votes.
> 3. Growing government to increase their power. while running up the debt unsustainably.
> And other countries are doing the same, which is why we still have a lot of
> conflict, just as we have since the beginning of history!
>
>
>> So, getting back to topic, as much as it pains me to admit it, it is true
>> that the only way to fix climate change (if, indeed, it is possible to fix
>> it at all) is through massive international cooperation, and the only way
>> that is going to happen is through international meetings, which,
>> unfortunately, is going to mean a lot of these John Kerry/Al Gore/whoever
>> flying around on planes to meetings and stuff. Unfortunately, there is no
>> other way.
> ----------------------
> Of course there is another way. Stop making some vaccines, to shorten the
> average life span by a few years! Also, make it a job requirement for all top
> politicians to attend regular meetings of "Politicians Anonymous", to learn a
> new way of life....how to be more honest and less selfish! It works for alcoholics
> and addicts of all types, so it will work for anyone!

So you're advocating going back to finishing education, starting work
and retiring just in time to have a couple of years before dying?

How are you going to persuade people to vote for that and then work 'til
they drop?

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 by: SteveW - Sat, 12 Aug 2023 10:42 UTC

On 12/08/2023 07:50, David P wrote:
> SteveW wrote:
>> David P wrote:
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>> Max Demian wrote:
>>>>> David P wrote:
>>>>>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos
>>>>>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>>>>>
>>>>> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't think Greta has been on the lecture circuit for a bit.
>>>> At some point, I remember her passing the baton to others,
>>>> to carry on.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeches_of_Greta_Thunberg
>>>>
>>>> It has a lot to do, with whether anyone is listening.
>>> -----------------------
>>> Walk the talk: in alt.obituaries, McCormack, Carson, and I wrote:
>>>
>>> Kenny McCormack wrote:
>>>> David Carson wrote:
>>>>>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
>>>>>
>>>>>> We need better role models and we can have them, too. Say what you
>>>>>> will about Greta Thunberg, at least she literally tries to walk her
>>>>>> walk. Shes invited to New York for a climate speech? She sails there.
>>>>>
>>>>> There isn't one single climate activist who isn't a roaring hypocrite.
>>> -----------------------------
>>>> This is true to an extent, but it is really just another instance of the
>>>> basic asymmetry between Conservatives and Liberals.
>>> -------------------------
>>> Both sides are making selfish decisions at the expense of others:
>>> 1. Extending life spans artificially at the expense of other critters, future generations, & the environment.
>>> 2. Making promises they can't keep, just to get votes.
>>> 3. Growing government to increase their power. while running up the debt unsustainably.
>>> And other countries are doing the same, which is why we still have a lot of
>>> conflict, just as we have since the beginning of history!
>>>
>>>
>>>> So, getting back to topic, as much as it pains me to admit it, it is true
>>>> that the only way to fix climate change (if, indeed, it is possible to fix
>>>> it at all) is through massive international cooperation, and the only way
>>>> that is going to happen is through international meetings, which,
>>>> unfortunately, is going to mean a lot of these John Kerry/Al Gore/whoever
>>>> flying around on planes to meetings and stuff. Unfortunately, there is no
>>>> other way.
>>> ----------------------
>>> Of course there is another way. Stop making some vaccines, to shorten the
>>> average life span by a few years! Also, make it a job requirement for all top
>>> politicians to attend regular meetings of "Politicians Anonymous", to learn a
>>> new way of life....how to be more honest and less selfish! It works for alcoholics
>>> and addicts of all types, so it will work for anyone!
>> So you're advocating going back to finishing education, starting work
>> and retiring just in time to have a couple of years before dying?
> -------------------
> Nothing ever happens the same way for everyone! You'll probably
> do better if you exercise and eat right and don't drink and smoke heavily
> and get overweight!
>
>> How are you going to persuade people to vote for that and then work 'til
>> they drop?
> -------------
> When you do too far out on a limb, you need to back up! The big picture
> is a lot more than Just Us Humans, Right Now! It includes Other Critters,
> Future Generations, and the Environment! Did you forget?

Far better for children not to be born than to suffer illnesses, early
deaths, early bereavements. Protect those that are already here and cut
down own additions. That is the thistle than the world has refused to
grasp for decades. The developed nations already have birth rates well
below replacement levels - yet populations continue to rise, as we
import more people and the lesser developed nations continue to have too
high birth rates.

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 by: Joe - Sat, 12 Aug 2023 10:53 UTC

On Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:42:27 +0100
SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:

> The developed nations already have
> birth rates well below replacement levels - yet populations continue
> to rise, as we import more people and the lesser developed nations
> continue to have too high birth rates.
>
For a solution to this problem which now looks just a little familiar,
read Saturn's Race by Larry Niven and Steven Barnes, published 2001.

--
Joe

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 by: charles - Sat, 12 Aug 2023 11:08 UTC

In article <ub7nmk$19ql6$1@dont-email.me>, SteveW
<steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
> On 12/08/2023 07:50, David P wrote:
> > SteveW wrote:
> >> David P wrote:
> >>> Paul wrote:
> >>>> Max Demian wrote:
> >>>>> David P wrote:
> >>>>>> Walk the talk: the world needs more Gretas and fewer Leonardos By
> >>>>>> Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That little girl needs to have her bare bottom smacked.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I don't think Greta has been on the lecture circuit for a bit. At
> >>>> some point, I remember her passing the baton to others, to carry on.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeches_of_Greta_Thunberg
> >>>>
> >>>> It has a lot to do, with whether anyone is listening.
> >>> ----------------------- Walk the talk: in alt.obituaries, McCormack,
> >>> Carson, and I wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Kenny McCormack wrote:
> >>>> David Carson wrote:
> >>>>>> By Gaia Baracetti, Aug 8, 2023, The Overpopulation Project
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> We need better role models and we can have them, too. Say what you
> >>>>>> will about Greta Thunberg, at least she literally tries to walk
> >>>>>> her walk. Shes invited to New York for a climate speech? She sails
> >>>>>> there.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There isn't one single climate activist who isn't a roaring
> >>>>> hypocrite.
> >>> -----------------------------
> >>>> This is true to an extent, but it is really just another instance of
> >>>> the basic asymmetry between Conservatives and Liberals.
> >>> ------------------------- Both sides are making selfish decisions at
> >>> the expense of others: 1. Extending life spans artificially at the
> >>> expense of other critters, future generations, & the environment. 2.
> >>> Making promises they can't keep, just to get votes. 3. Growing
> >>> government to increase their power. while running up the debt
> >>> unsustainably. And other countries are doing the same, which is why
> >>> we still have a lot of conflict, just as we have since the beginning
> >>> of history!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> So, getting back to topic, as much as it pains me to admit it, it is
> >>>> true that the only way to fix climate change (if, indeed, it is
> >>>> possible to fix it at all) is through massive international
> >>>> cooperation, and the only way that is going to happen is through
> >>>> international meetings, which, unfortunately, is going to mean a lot
> >>>> of these John Kerry/Al Gore/whoever flying around on planes to
> >>>> meetings and stuff. Unfortunately, there is no other way.
> >>> ---------------------- Of course there is another way. Stop making
> >>> some vaccines, to shorten the average life span by a few years! Also,
> >>> make it a job requirement for all top politicians to attend regular
> >>> meetings of "Politicians Anonymous", to learn a new way of
> >>> life....how to be more honest and less selfish! It works for
> >>> alcoholics and addicts of all types, so it will work for anyone!
> >> So you're advocating going back to finishing education, starting work
> >> and retiring just in time to have a couple of years before dying?
> > ------------------- Nothing ever happens the same way for everyone!
> > You'll probably do better if you exercise and eat right and don't drink
> > and smoke heavily and get overweight!
> >
> >> How are you going to persuade people to vote for that and then work
> >> 'til they drop?
> > ------------- When you do too far out on a limb, you need to back up!
> > The big picture is a lot more than Just Us Humans, Right Now! It
> > includes Other Critters, Future Generations, and the Environment! Did
> > you forget?

> Far better for children not to be born than to suffer illnesses, early
> deaths, early bereavements. Protect those that are already here and cut
> down own additions. That is the thistle than the world has refused to
> grasp for decades. The developed nations already have birth rates well
> below replacement levels - yet populations continue to rise, as we
> import more people and the lesser developed nations continue to have too
> high birth rates.

That's probably because they haven't taken modern medicine into account.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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