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 by: Brian Gaff - Wed, 4 May 2022 06:11 UTC

I just tried to send another message from this server and it told me I was
on a ban list.
Brian

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 by: Tease'n'Se - Wed, 4 May 2022 08:07 UTC

Brian Gaff wrote:

> I just tried to send another message from this server and it told me I was
> on a ban list.

Aioe is run in such a strange way, it'll ban you for too frequent access, or too
many posts, or because some group or person is on a ban list (their server,
their decision of course)

Can't see anything that says the shed is blocked though

<https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions>

and I doubt you want to listen to a list of IP addresses being read out to see
if you're on the list

<https://news.aioe.org/stats/banned-ips>

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Subject: Re: Ban list?
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 by: Brian Gaff - Wed, 4 May 2022 10:41 UTC

No its working again now but the tv list is supposedly banned for posting by
one individual, but not me but it still does not post to it. I have left a
message on their helpdesk group, but as its the only message on it I
strongly suspect nobody ever goes there.
I'm a reply, in the meantime from Eternal septembers wolfgang email contact
address, since that is what started the problem a couple of days back. My
guess is that some slight change in the config has upset some nntp clients,
the older ones. Maybe it now needs ssl. A while back it told me that the
certificate was out of date, and asked if I trusted it, so I trusted it and
it worked till now.
Its all a bit of a black art.
Brian

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"Tease'n'Seize" <tease-and-seize@invalid> wrote in message
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> Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> I just tried to send another message from this server and it told me I
>> was
>> on a ban list.
>
> Aioe is run in such a strange way, it'll ban you for too frequent access,
> or too many posts, or because some group or person is on a ban list (their
> server, their decision of course)
>
> Can't see anything that says the shed is blocked though
>
> <https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions>
>
> and I doubt you want to listen to a list of IP addresses being read out to
> see if you're on the list
>
> <https://news.aioe.org/stats/banned-ips>

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 by: Brian Gaff - Wed, 4 May 2022 15:59 UTC

Wolfgang says this so those having problems will still have them as I'm
using the settings he sais. I think its this tls thing that might be the
problem.

Hi.

I updated INN to the latest version the day before yesterday.

The server log shows the following error message:

cpc112679-nmal22-2-0-cust44.19-2.cable.virginm.net failure to negotiate TLS
session

Can you try to use port 563 for encrypted connections? What news reader
software are you using?
===
These writers of software should not really be changing fallback defaults as
it is bound to affect a lot of otherwise workable software.

Brian

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> Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> I just tried to send another message from this server and it told me I
>> was
>> on a ban list.
>
> Aioe is run in such a strange way, it'll ban you for too frequent access,
> or too many posts, or because some group or person is on a ban list (their
> server, their decision of course)
>
> Can't see anything that says the shed is blocked though
>
> <https://news.aioe.org/documentation/access-restrictions>
>
> and I doubt you want to listen to a list of IP addresses being read out to
> see if you're on the list
>
> <https://news.aioe.org/stats/banned-ips>

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 by: Tease'n'Se - Wed, 4 May 2022 22:20 UTC

Brian Gaff wrote:

> No its working again now but the tv list is supposedly banned for posting by
> one individual,

but does that mean only Matti vari is banned from uk.tech.digital.tv
or does it mean, because of Matti vari that uk.tech.digital.tv is blocked for
everyone?

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 by: Tease'n'Se - Wed, 4 May 2022 22:22 UTC

Brian Gaff wrote:

> Wolfgang says this so those having problems will still have them as I'm
> using the settings he sais. I think its this tls thing that might be the
> problem.

try just using reader80 or whatever it's called ... never seen much point in
encrypting usenet sessions if you aren't in china/russia

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 by: Brian Gaff - Thu, 5 May 2022 06:58 UTC

So do I put the port back to its default value and turn off all the secure
stuff? What are other ES users using?
Brian

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> Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> Wolfgang says this so those having problems will still have them as I'm
>> using the settings he sais. I think its this tls thing that might be the
>> problem.
>
> try just using reader80 or whatever it's called ... never seen much point
> in encrypting usenet sessions if you aren't in china/russia

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 by: Tease'n'Se - Thu, 5 May 2022 07:18 UTC

Brian Gaff wrote:

> So do I put the port back to its default value and turn off all the secure
> stuff? What are other ES users using?

turn off ssl
set the port to 80
and set the server name to reader80.eternal-september.org

I don't use ES as my main server.

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 by: Tone - Thu, 5 May 2022 07:25 UTC

On 05/05/2022 08:18, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
> Brian Gaff wrote:
>
>> So do I put the port back to its default value and turn off all the
>> secure
>> stuff? What are other  ES users using?
>
> turn off ssl
> set the port to 80
> and set the server name to reader80.eternal-september.org
>
> I don't use ES as my main server.

ditto

Tone

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 by: Ahem A Rivet's - Thu, 5 May 2022 07:09 UTC

On Thu, 5 May 2022 07:58:49 +0100
"Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> So do I put the port back to its default value and turn off all the
> secure stuff? What are other ES users using?

I'm using this (with leafnode):

server=news.eternal-september.org
port=80
username=<redacted>
password=<redacted>

I also have albasani set up for feed but no post to cover ES
outages with:

server=news.albasani.net
username=readonly
password=readonly
nopost=1

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Fri, 6 May 2022 18:00 UTC

Its working again now if this actually posts without me doing anything. So
lets see if it appears.
Brian

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"Tone" <tone@email.com> wrote in message news:t4vu4o$22j$2@dont-email.me...
> On 05/05/2022 08:18, Tease'n'Seize wrote:
>> Brian Gaff wrote:
>>
>>> So do I put the port back to its default value and turn off all the
>>> secure
>>> stuff? What are other ES users using?
>>
>> turn off ssl
>> set the port to 80
>> and set the server name to reader80.eternal-september.org
>>
>> I don't use ES as my main server.
>
> ditto
>
> Tone

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 by: John Williamson - Fri, 6 May 2022 18:12 UTC

Nope, can't see a thing. <Grin>

On 06/05/2022 19:00, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Its working again now if this actually posts without me doing anything. So
> lets see if it appears.
> Brian
>

--
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John.

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 by: Sam Plusnet - Fri, 6 May 2022 20:03 UTC

On 06-May-22 19:12, John Williamson wrote:
>
> Nope, can't see a thing. <Grin>

Not sure what you're talking about. Nothing to see here.

Move along there.
>
> On 06/05/2022 19:00, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>> Its  working again now if this actually posts without me doing
>> anything. So
>> lets see if it appears.
>>  Brian
>>
>
>

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 by: maus - Fri, 6 May 2022 21:20 UTC

On 2022-05-06, Brian Gaff (Sofa) <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Its working again now if this actually posts without me doing anything. So
> lets see if it appears.
> Brian
>

arrived here

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Sat, 7 May 2022 06:44 UTC

No neither did i, but then I see nothing all the time. I heard it though.
Brian

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"John Williamson" <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> Nope, can't see a thing. <Grin>
>
> On 06/05/2022 19:00, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>> Its working again now if this actually posts without me doing anything.
>> So
>> lets see if it appears.
>> Brian
>>
>
>
> --
> Tciao for Now!
>
> John.

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 by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) - Sat, 7 May 2022 06:50 UTC

I did ask hime what he did, but he has not replied yet. My guess is that he
backed out of the update, as I've seen disquiet about funny stuff happening
from others as well, so as they say, if it aint broke don't fix it.
This is why I'm never really that impressed when Microsoft do updates and
completely new windows. 10 was really no great update on 7, unless you use
narrator or some of the more fancy stuff like teams and the like, and 11
could have some merit, but it seems far more stringent on what will run
under it.
I often wonder why Microsoft do not offer their user interface in
different shell designs, say ribbons or traditional menus. It would mean
far fewer learning curves for most people if they did not change interfaces
and concentrated on new features instead.
Brian

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> On 2022-05-06, Brian Gaff (Sofa) <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Its working again now if this actually posts without me doing anything.
>> So
>> lets see if it appears.
>> Brian
>>
>
> arrived here
>
>
> --
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> It is I, alone, who can tell you.
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